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Who Is Our Creator? by Maamin(m): 3:14pm On Aug 08, 2018
God created all things through Christ. Does that make Christ the Creator along with the Father? Or should only the Father be called the Creator?

God the Father is certainly the Creator—with Christ as His Agent. Nevertheless, the fact that Christ did the work of all creation makes Christ the Creator as well (unless we would imagine Him as a mere mechanical tool or power with zero thought or input or creativity in what He was given to do—which we do not). Based on Scripture, the Church of God has specifically proclaimed Christ as the Creator along with the Father in its literature going back more than 60 years.

The fact is, God is the Creator—both the Father and Christ, with Christ executing the will of the Father. If Jesus made everything, then He is the Maker (at the Father’s behest). A maker is one who makes. If Jesus is the One who brought everything out of nothing—as He clearly did—then He is the Creator (again, of course, at the Father’s directive, so that they are both Creator). We’ll see more evidence of this as we examine the matter—along with why it’s so important to understand this properly.

“Remember Your Creators”
Jesus is specifically presented in Scripture as Creator along with the Father.

Ecclesiastes 12:1 tells us to remember our Creator while we’re young. But, as many commentaries acknowledge, this verse literally translated says, “Remember also thy Creators . . .” (Young’s Literal Translation). The word here is plural. Some will argue that this is merely a majestic plural for a singular Creator—just as they argue for the plural forms Elohim and Adonai .

However, we understand that these other words refer to an actual plurality that can be used in a singular way (just as “United States” is plural in form but is used with singular verbs, yet with an actual plurality of states being behind the name).

In any case, the actual word used in Ecclesiastes 12:1 is Creators. So the Bible explicitly acknowledges a plurality of Creators, just as it does a plurality of God Beings. There are two Creators, just as there are two who are God—the One who became the Father and the One who became Christ, the latter following the will of the former.

And again, Scripture says that all created things were created through Christ. This means Christ did the creating. If He did not, what would we call what He did? Made? Built? He called things out of nothing into existence (Psalms 33:6). That is creating. And since He did that, He is Creator. Not exclusively or even primarily, of course, because He was following the will of the One who became the Father. Nonetheless, Jesus shared in the role of Creator along with the Father, though in a subordinate position.

Christ an Assembly-Line Worker?
As an analogy to God creating through Christ, the Church has in the past used the illustration of Henry Ford being the creator of the Ford automobile, though using workmen on an assembly line to put the cars together. This is a valid analogy that was meant to show how the Father is Creator without doing the actual work of creation. It was not meant to deny Christ’s role as Creator, as He was referred to as Creator in the same context.

Of course all analogies break down. In this case, the Word who became Christ was not just an assembly-line worker among many assembly-line workers putting various parts of the creation in place. Rather, Jesus made everything that exists except for Himself and the Father! If Ford automobiles and all their parts were all made and put together by one single person, we would probably be inclined to call that person the maker of the Ford automobile along with Henry Ford himself—especially if this person also had input into how the cars were to be made.
Re: Who Is Our Creator? by bloodofthelamb(m): 3:50pm On Aug 08, 2018
Excellent write up. The Father and the Son are both Creators.

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Re: Who Is Our Creator? by 0temSapien: 6:28pm On Aug 08, 2018
We are all parts of the consciousness called MIROSH(the First Cause). Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, you, me and everything and everyone in EXISTENCE are all made by the first cause called Mirosh.

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Re: Who Is Our Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 6:36pm On Aug 08, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
Excellent write up. The Father and the Son are both Creators.

Yes.. In this case it is Enki and Marduk...
The gospel stories comes from ancient tales about marduk.
Re: Who Is Our Creator? by pressplay411(m): 12:43pm On Dec 14, 2018
Maamin:
God created all things through Christ. Does that make Christ the Creator along with the Father? Or should only the Father be called the Creator?

God the Father is certainly the Creator—with Christ as His Agent. Nevertheless, the fact that Christ did the work of all creation makes Christ the Creator as well (unless we would imagine Him as a mere mechanical tool or power with zero thought or input or creativity in what He was given to do—which we do not). Based on Scripture, the Church of God has specifically proclaimed Christ as the Creator along with the Father in its literature going back more than 60 years.

The fact is, God is the Creator—both the Father and Christ, with Christ executing the will of the Father. If Jesus made everything, then He is the Maker (at the Father’s behest). A maker is one who makes. If Jesus is the One who brought everything out of nothing—as He clearly did—then He is the Creator (again, of course, at the Father’s directive, so that they are both Creator). We’ll see more evidence of this as we examine the matter—along with why it’s so important to understand this properly.

“Remember Your Creators”
Jesus is specifically presented in Scripture as Creator along with the Father.

Ecclesiastes 12:1 tells us to remember our Creator while we’re young. But, as many commentaries acknowledge, this verse literally translated says, “Remember also thy Creators . . .” (Young’s Literal Translation). The word here is plural. Some will argue that this is merely a majestic plural for a singular Creator—just as they argue for the plural forms Elohim and Adonai .

However, we understand that these other words refer to an actual plurality that can be used in a singular way (just as “United States” is plural in form but is used with singular verbs, yet with an actual plurality of states being behind the name).

In any case, the actual word used in Ecclesiastes 12:1 is Creators. So the Bible explicitly acknowledges a plurality of Creators, just as it does a plurality of God Beings. There are two Creators, just as there are two who are God—the One who became the Father and the One who became Christ, the latter following the will of the former.

And again, Scripture says that all created things were created through Christ. This means Christ did the creating. If He did not, what would we call what He did? Made? Built? He called things out of nothing into existence (Psalms 33:6). That is creating. And since He did that, He is Creator. Not exclusively or even primarily, of course, because He was following the will of the One who became the Father. Nonetheless, Jesus shared in the role of Creator along with the Father, though in a subordinate position.

Christ an Assembly-Line Worker?
As an analogy to God creating through Christ, the Church has in the past used the illustration of Henry Ford being the creator of the Ford automobile, though using workmen on an assembly line to put the cars together. This is a valid analogy that was meant to show how the Father is Creator without doing the actual work of creation. It was not meant to deny Christ’s role as Creator, as He was referred to as Creator in the same context.

Of course all analogies break down. In this case, the Word who became Christ was not just an assembly-line worker among many assembly-line workers putting various parts of the creation in place. Rather, Jesus made everything that exists except for Himself and the Father! If Ford automobiles and all their parts were all made and put together by one single person, we would probably be inclined to call that person the maker of the Ford automobile along with Henry Ford himself—especially if this person also had input into how the cars were to be made.

I wrote by inspiration on the power of spoken word.
Every word you speak is powerful.
We are products of the words we have confessed into our lives and words people told us and we believed.
This is the reason you will see a 50 year old man still feeling dull because his teacher said so in his primary school.

Now what am I saying. The answer to your thread is comprehensively contained and detailed in Gospel acvording to John chapter 1.

You will come to realise that Jesus Christ is the Spoken Word of God who became Flesh.
Every Word in the scriptures is Jesus Christ.

But only with the Holy Spirit can the Word become Life, Light and Power.
The Word of God (scriptures) is the Wisdom of God, and the Holy Spirit is who gives us the Understanding.

This is why we should silence words we have have believed outside the bible.
I hope to open a thread soon detailing my revelations on this.
More Grace, Wisdom, Understanding and Humility to us all.
Amen.

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