tintingz:
There's no archeological evidence Moses existed talkless of writing a scripture.

what do you know about archaeological evidence? it seems like you know about only archaeological evidence regarding historical figures. there are a lot evidences to prove existence of an historical evidence. what you know is that Bible is real, reliable and accurate. If Bible is real then writers must be real.

@Op does Pythons and Anacondas once have legs too.

Snakes were created as they are, without legs for crying out loud.

Is just like me saying horses once had wings because bible mentioned Elijah been carried away by chariot of fire.

Seun:

The common ancestors of snakes had legs. They ‘lost’ their legs because they didn’t need legs anymore. It wasn’t a curse to them, but a blessing, to not have to maintain a body part that does nothing for them. That’s the same reason why we don’t have tails, by the way.


Granting the power of speech to an animal that is physically incapable of speaking is amazing. It’s similar to enabling elephants to fly. I would think that only the creator would be capable of doing such things. Is your Satan all-powerful, too? If not, what are the limits of his power?

Bros u funny oo. Which one be YOUR SATAN? I don't worship Satan. Sorry wrong market.

I agree with u brother. I don't care about these people's opinions, I only simply believe what the bible says.

capitalzero:


information in Bible is real,authetic and reliable. Try to study Bible with an open mind.

capitalzero:
1.Through supernatural means

1. Please be more specific. Did God dictate the five books to Moses, just like the Quran?

2. What makes you believe that Moses had the power to write accurately about things that happened before he was born?

2. Yes, he wrote most parts of it. just like a book can be credited to an author even after his death,though he has not completed the book.

3. Do you believe that the alterations made to Deuteronomy after Moses died were also divinely inspired, even though we don’t know the people who made them. If so, what is the basis for this belief?

4. Would you agree that the other books Moses allegedly wrote, such as Genesis, may have been edited by other people after he died? How can we distinguish between the passages that Moses wrote ‘through supernatural means’ and the ones that were added later or altered by unknown people?

capitalzero:
what do you know about archaeological evidence? it seems like you know about only archaeological evidence regarding historical figures. there are a lot evidences to prove existence of an historical evidence. what you know is that Bible is real, reliable and accurate. If Bible is real then writers must be real.

The factual method to prove an historical person or events is archaeological evidence.

Op, you do make some sense here. Snakes, in the time of Adam and Eve had legs. But what people fail to understand is that they were actually serpents, and only modern understanding made the translators call them snake, as that would make more sense to modern readers. The only link is that snakes have evolved from serpents. And serpents have evolved into lizards and such like animals.

It's the same way Adam and Eve were naked and just picking food off the growing plants and trees. People call them man and woman, but they were ape like, before they became conscious and understood what good and evil was and that they better put some clothes on. Nor does "Adam" and "Eve" mean like two individual man and woman, but "men" and "women", the words Adam and Eve being closer to Europeans and Africans than single Segun and Bolanle!

Some say death came into the world through the disobedience of 'Adam' and 'Eve'. But this is wrong, for living things died before Adam and Eve, except that Adam and Eve were so primitive that they believed the 'dead' went up to somewhere else, most likely to meet their maker where they thought they came from. Or just like their ape cousins, do you think they knew that the sexual act is what produced offspring? Of course they didn't, or they would have built a maternity centre!

The case is that when it is said that "their eyes opened", it means they evolved to a new level of understanding instead of believing the things they had thought up and held on to in their more primitive naked unevolved state. And it must be noted that it was the so called "serpent" that assisted in this process of evolution. The idea being that since people are averse to serpents, they would be equally averse to evolving and would be more easily kept in a state of servitude in a Garden of Ignorance. But note the name of this serpent, Lucifer, the Light Bringer! Does one put good wine in bad bottles? Does darkness not disappear when light appears?

It's the same today. Unevolved means to not be aware and remain in a primitive state of existence. And then the "serpent" (the Enlightener, or Enlightenment) arrived, said "get sense people!" And in effect gave those who accept 'him' into their lives the power and ability to "become like us" and evolve into gods. And for those who don't to remain 'naked', unconscious and unaware like their ape and chimpanzee cousins and Adam and Eve, enslaved in the imaginary Garden of Eden! This is a continuous process by the way. There have been many points in time when the 'Gods' of the day enslaved people until the Redeemer came to redeem them. Moses and the freeing of the Israelites is one, the freeing from Babylon is another, as well as the Martin Luther Kings who also opened peoples' eyes in their own times.

Some think because everything was created, "and it was good", that everything was therefore created perfectly in the beginning. But that is like claiming the computer and phone existed at the very beginning, after all Eve ate "an iPhone", didn't she, and the iPhone did not evolve from people having to communicate over long distances with drums or the writing of letters!

The fact is that everything, absolutely everything came out of a state that preceeded it, even the heaven and the earth. It just didn't have form, as in not the form it had before God moulded it into its current form. But it did have some sort of form as depicted by the very first verse from God's Word itself, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". As in gave form to heaven and earth - heaven not being somewhere God sits, but everything primitive 'ape' saw when they looked up. And in those days, they only saw the Sun, the Moon and the Stars at best.

God first created the heaven but we are told nothing about this creation, except that it was created, and in one tiny verse. But one just has to read through the whole of the first chapter of Genesis, and anyone who has eaten apples (though, any fruit would do, even Blackberrys, Nokia or Samsungs) would wonder that if it took a whole chapter to create earth, then how many more chapters depicting the creation of the entire heavens with all the other planets in it must have preceeded that chapter! In fact, would like ten or more Holy Bibles be sufficient? It is why it is written in the Quran that "even all the oceans multiplied by seven and made into ink, and all the trees multiplied by seven and made into pens, would not be sufficient to write all that God has done". But, why give humans all that reading matter when they can't even get through and understand the little they have been given!? Who's going to be providing their daily bread if they were even trying to!?

So no one really knows how long it took, or what really happened, God things being timeless after all. And that does not mean the time itself had a beginning point, but that clocks are a very recent invention. So who's to say that "In the beginning" was not like some 10 billion years ago, and that "the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" for another 10 billion years before that? Or would you claim humans with their 6000 year scale can measure in the tens of billions? Surely the number system of humans is not the number system of the Gods!

Thanks op. For provoking this out of me.

budaatum:
Op, you do make some sense here. Snakes, in the time of Adam and Eve had legs. But what people fail to understand is that they were actually serpents, and only modern understanding made the translators call them snake, as that would make more sense to modern readers. The only link is that snakes have evolved from serpents. And serpents have evolved into lizards and such like animals.

It's the same way Adam and Eve were naked and just picking food off the growing plants and trees. People call them man and woman, but they were ape like, before they became conscious and understood what good and evil was and that they better put some clothes on. Nor does "Adam" and "Eve" mean like two individual man and woman, but "men" and "women", the words Adam and Eve being closer to Europeans and Africans than single Segun and Bolanle!

Some say death came into the world through the disobedience of 'Adam' and 'Eve'. But this is wrong, for living things died before Adam and Eve, except that Adam and Eve were so primitive that they believed the 'dead' went up to somewhere else, most likely to meet their maker where they thought they came from. Or just like their ape cousins, do you think they knew that the sexual act is what produced offspring? Of course they didn't, or they would have built a maternity centre!

The case is that when it is said that "their eyes opened", it means they evolved to a new level of understanding instead of believing the things they had thought up and held on to in their more primitive naked unevolved state. And it must be noted that it was the so called "serpent" that assisted in this process of evolution. The idea being that since people are averse to serpents, they would be equally averse to evolving and would be more easily kept in a state of servitude in a Garden of Ignorance. But note the name of this serpent, Lucifer, the Light Bringer! Does one put good wine in bad bottles? Does darkness not disappear when light appears?

It's the same today. Unevolved means to not be aware and remain in a primitive state of existence. And then the "serpent" (the Enlightener, or Enlightenment) arrived, said "get sense people!" And in effect gave those who accept 'him' into their lives the power and ability to "become like us" and evolve into gods. And for those who don't to remain 'naked', unconscious and unaware like their ape and chimpanzee cousins and Adam and Eve, enslaved in the imaginary Garden of Eden! This is a continuous process by the way. There have been many points in time when the 'Gods' of the day enslaved people until the Redeemer came to redeem them. Moses and the freeing of the Israelites is one, the freeing from Babylon is another, as well as the Martin Luther Kings who also opened peoples' eyes in their own times.

Some think because everything was created, "and it was good", that everything was therefore created perfectly in the beginning. But that is like claiming the computer and phone existed at the very beginning, after all Eve ate "an iPhone", didn't she, and the iPhone did not evolve from people having to communicate over long distances with drums or the writing of letters!

The fact is that everything, absolutely everything came out of a state that preceeded it, even the heaven and the earth. It just didn't have form, as in not the form it had before God moulded it into its current form. But it did have some sort of form as depicted by the very first verse from God's Word itself, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". As in gave form to heaven and earth - heaven not being somewhere God sits, but everything primitive 'ape' saw when they looked up. And in those days, they only saw the Sun, the Moon and the Stars at best.

God first created the heaven but we are told nothing about this creation, except that it was created, and in one tiny verse. But one just has to read through the whole of the first chapter of Genesis, and anyone who has eaten apples (though, any fruit would do, even Blackberrys, Nokia or Samsungs) would wonder that if it took a whole chapter to create earth, then how many more chapters depicting the creation of the entire heavens with all the other planets in it must have preceeded that chapter! In fact, would like ten or more Holy Bibles be sufficient? It is why it is written in the Quran that "even all the oceans multiplied by seven and made into ink, and all the trees multiplied by seven and made into pens, would not be sufficient to write all that God has done". But, why give humans all that reading matter when they can't even get through and understand the little they have been given!? Who's going to be providing their daily bread if they were even trying to!?

So no one really knows how long it took, or what really happened, God things being timeless after all. And that does not mean the time itself had a beginning point, but that clocks are a very recent invention. So who's to say that "In the beginning" was not like some 10 billion years ago, and that "the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" for another 10 billion years before that? Or would you claim humans with their 6000 year scale can measure in the tens of billions? Surely the number system of humans is not the number system of the Gods!

Thanks op. For provoking this out of me.

I have never been on a rollercoaster before and this writeup is making me dizzy

JoannaSedley:
I have never been on a rollercoaster before and this writeup is making me dizzy

Its an epic write-up, innit.
I just had to bang a like on it.
Budaatum happens to be one of those, one can always rely upon, to liven up any thread a bit
and nine times out of ten, he doesnt fail to deliver or fulfil the hopes

MuttleyLaff:
Its an epic write-up, innit.
I just had to bang a like on it.
Budaatum happens to be one of those, one can always rely upon, to liven up any thread a bit
and nine times out of ten, he doesnt fail to deliver or fulfil the hopes

He has a way with words and also very good in diving down the hill. My ears are still tingling.

JoannaSedley:
He has a way with words ...

Did you read where he calmly and cooly put down
"...after all Eve ate "an iPhone"..."?

Ingenious. Whats iphone's logo, if not a bitten partly eaten apple

JoannaSedley:
...and also very good in diving down the hill.
My ears are still tingling.

Yeah, bwahahaha ha.
The emboldened, that's very true as well. Kikikikiki ki.

owoshuyi:
are worms and eels reptiles?

Ever heard of the slow worm?

Educate yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anguis_fragilis