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What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by bilms(m): 2:08pm On Oct 31, 2018
What really happened between Shiite and army - IMN

https://mrrightsng.blogspot.com/2018/10/shiite-protests-what-really-happened-imn.html?m=1

The Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN) has released a statement on Tuesday explaining the peaceful nature of their protests before operatives of the Nigerian Army interfered by opening fire into its members injuring many people in the process.

A senior member of the IMN’s media forum,Shuaibu Musa, said this yesterday during a media interview and he also accused the Federal Government of deceiving the populace by peddling false narratives of the confrontation.

He said: “The claims that we are moving around with weapons are unsubstantiated. All the marches we have done previously without army or police interference have always ended up peacefully. The question to ask is: who have we ever attacked?

“Let me tell you in Abuja we held a daily sit-out for over a hundred days and nobody was hurt until they (security agents) came and attacked us.

“What is confrontational about a group of people that would come out en masse with their children, women and even their disabled to make their voices heard?

“What is confrontational in the way we have conducted ourselves even in the face of severe provocation. We have never blocked any route.

“We don’t participate in the so-called ethnic and religious confrontations that have been taking place all over the country. Anybody that has stayed in Kaduna will tell you that the homes of IMN Sheikhs and Imams are the abode of safety for all during these crises.

“Have we ever disobeyed any constituted authority? Have we ever been arrested, charged to court and found guilty of disobedience to constituted authorities?

“Some say we kill people but have any Shiite been convicted of murder in this country? They (government) just talk to curry sympathy while instigating public anger against us for nothing.”

On the reluctance of the sect to seek and obtain police permission before staging it protest marches, Musa said: “This issue has been debated even before the Supreme Court. We do not require any police permission to any procession.

“We are not saying everybody must agree with our ways of doing things but we must not also be prevented from doing things our way as long as we have not harmed anyone.”

Musa also shed some light about the violence that happened after the procession in Zuban and other suburbs of Abuja.

“As we speak, we have 17 people confirmed killed in Abuja on Monday. Last Saturday, we had six dead bodies from the Zuba Killings. They (security agents) are liars.

Some of the bodies the army took away were dumped with the police and we have recovered them. By the time, we will be doing the burials; you will see that the dead were real individuals and citizens.

“They (security agents) killed and then dragged the corpses. There are video clips that showed the soldiers were shooting and dragging the corpses and even preventing people from getting medical attention.

After our protest marches, we take time to do a census of our members. We have the names and addresses of every person that has lost his life.

“The 2018 Arbaeen trek ends today (Tuesday) but note that we have also been carrying out the ‘Free Zakzaky’ rallies and campaigns. We will continue to do that not only in Abuja but everywhere.

“However, in the nation’s capital, the Arbaeen trek started about two years ago almost unnoticed because we were not attacked. We thank FCT residents for the support they have given us all these while not only during this Arbaeen trek but also in our struggle to get Sheikh out of detention.

“But we must remind them that the government is not sincere. A government that cannot protect the people when terrorists are shooting innocent citizens is today fighting and killing unarmed Shiites.

Some people are very unfair to us simply because they do not like the way we do some of our religious practices. When they shoot in public, bullets do not know IMN members

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by mushystuff: 2:23pm On Oct 31, 2018
Buhari and his APC goons have really and deliberately mismanaged this situation due to religious intolerance and sentiments. They deliberately try to lure the unarmed citizens into confrontations with trigger-happy, hungry, deprived and untrained charlatans in army uniforms just for an excuse to shed the blood of so called enemies.

It is not as if this IMN just came into existence in 2015 in Nigeria so why the madness now if it's not because a religious and ethnic bigot became president in 2015?

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by chrisifeanyi: 2:51pm On Oct 31, 2018
The current Shiite imbroglio is a testament to d fact that it's d rule of law that guarantees national security. Once any "leader" attempts to subjugate d rule of law to his own whimsical interpretations & actions, he/she leaves d country open to all manner of skirmishes

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by BruncleZuma: 2:51pm On Oct 31, 2018
grin

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by sparkle6(m): 2:52pm On Oct 31, 2018
Keep quiet! Imn or whatever.
Its either Bullhari is voted out or he is voted out.
Either way he still leaves.

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by 01mcfadden(m): 2:52pm On Oct 31, 2018
Hmm

“But we must remind them that the government is not sincere. A government that cannot protect the people when terrorists are shooting innocent citizens is today fighting and killing unarmed ones."

Few truer words than the above have I heard throughout this year.
The once respected army is now becoming just as useless as the police force.


One thing I know is that an idea that has not been birthed is not yet ready, once ready, no amount of force can stop it.

I spit on this government with zero regards for human right.
Bubu is trained to lead soldiers and not civilians. He'd have been better off as the Chief of Army Staff.

Last bullet, to all those hailing Bubu and his systemic methods of killing unarmed civilians, your case will be like that of the fire wood that is mocking the one that's being used to cook, little did it know that in the evening is its turn to cry.
Keep hailing the lifeless one... It's a big merry go round. If you see evil, say evil. Bubu is evil!!!!

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by lonelydora: 2:53pm On Oct 31, 2018
Even though these Shittes are heartless (anyone who has stayed in Zaria can testify) but believe Nigerian army story at your peril.


Ideology don't die

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by CJERRYEMILEX(m): 2:53pm On Oct 31, 2018
i thought that there is freedom of religion enshrined into the 1999 cinstitution

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by nezeyayaacucre: 2:54pm On Oct 31, 2018
We need to know
Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by fuxuca: 2:54pm On Oct 31, 2018
oya tell us the truth sharps...
Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by princeade86(m): 2:54pm On Oct 31, 2018
migeria jagajaga

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by SimonMagau: 2:56pm On Oct 31, 2018
tongue
Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by komukedab: 2:56pm On Oct 31, 2018
wow Nigerian Army are on it ooooooo
Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Xcrapeekoko(m): 2:56pm On Oct 31, 2018
And this was how boko haram started

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by chiedu7: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2018
Una vote for 9ja!
No be so?

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Akshow: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2018
I think there are fault on both quarters. The shiites obviously are fearless and very hungry to die so as to be seen as a martyr hence their foolishness of fighting gun with stones. The army on the other hand need to respect the rule of law and stop being trigger happy and killing.

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by chily11: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2018
The Nigeria Army has lost its dignity. Over the years, they've been responsible and respected amongst the other arm forces in Africa but now it's motive is to make all opposition lifeless.

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Smart3856bwhr: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2018
Gg

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by chubysoft1(m): 2:58pm On Oct 31, 2018
I don't think Buhari cares.

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by BB9ja007: 2:58pm On Oct 31, 2018
you Have been matching for two years for what exactly?
Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by rafhell(m): 2:59pm On Oct 31, 2018
i don't give a fvck.
islam and peace are like word and opposite

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Esseite: 2:59pm On Oct 31, 2018
This is a core islamic affair which involves killing of muslims, but you would never find the self acclaimed Prof Akintola and MURIC, but when it comes to politics, he would be dancing around like a headless chicken...

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Built2last: 2:59pm On Oct 31, 2018
"Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers"~~St Augustine

The reaction of Nigerians to Saturday's shooting of yet to be ascertained number of members of Shiite Islamic sect at Zuba bridge, Abuja, by the Nigerian army has conclusively exposed the fact that reasonable number of Nigerians have very low sense of Civic consciousness in addition to knowing absolutely nothing on how security forces ought to operate and relate with civilians in a civilized society.

Of course, I blame them not, considering that we live in Nigeria, a country where the President and Commander-In-Chief and all his security Chiefs take turn justifying and explaining away the routine massacre of hundreds of tax paying citizens by Fulani militia operating under the umbrella of a group, Miyetti Allah, which has no other person but the same President and Commander-In-Chief as Chief Patron. Living in such a country has a way of making one begin to see state violence as the norm and human life as nothing.

But first, let's get the issue very clearly:

According to the Nigerian Army, the Shiites smashed their vehicles' windscreens and windows, injured two soldiers and tried to cart away the "ammunitions and missiles" they were transporting simply because they (the soldiers) tried to dismantle the road block they mounted while on procession. This is the summary of the official statement by the Commander, Army Headquarters Garrison, Major General James Myam.

Before we analyze this, permit me to take us back to 2015 killing of hundredS of the same shiites by the same army. Then, their excuse was that the Shiites blocked the convoy of the Army Chief, Lt General Tukur Yusuf Buratai. Meanwhile, evidence showed that the same Army, even after killing hundredS of stick wielding Shiites, supposedly to create passage for the Army Chief, went to the home of the Shiites leader, Sheik Ibraheem Alzakzakky, and was caught on video shooting people including women and children. If we all pretend to be Savages by justifying the killing of hundredS of civilians by a National Army, just to create passage for an army Chief, how do we explain the same Army going to another location to kill more of the same people??

The people killed at Alzakzakky's house, were they also blocking the Army convoy

Testifying before a judicial Commission of Inquiry set up to look into the December 12, 2015 massacre, the Secretary to the Governor Nasir Elrufai headed government of Kaduna state, Mr Balarabe Lawal, admitted that the state government and the Nigerian Army buried 347 of the killed shiites IN A MASS GRAVE. In other words, they didn't allow families of their victims take the bodies of their loved ones and afford them descent burial in accordance with their religious belief.

Now, the same Army has killed the same people with the excuse that they attacked them with stones. And with no shame whatsoever, some Nigerians including those who have always condemned Israeli soldiers for responding to stone-throwing Palestinians with live bullets are defending their own army responding to the same stone with bullets.

Even the claim by the army that they were transporting weapons when they ran into the Shiites appears to be as weightless as their claim that they were at Nnamdi Kanu's compound last year, not to attack him but to do "SHOW OF FORCE". These are illiterate excuses. You don't do Show Of Force in a locality populated by your own unarmed citizens. You do "Show Of Force" to codedly warn enemy countries to respect themselves and you do this by displaying your military might.

If the army could be dumb enough to load sensitive weapons (ammunitions and missiles) and start moving them from place to place WITHOUT getting intelligence about the traffic situation of the route they intend to ply, it simply means we have a bunch of Morons heading the Nigerian army. And if they knew the Shiites were doing procession there and still chose to take that route, instead of getting the police to disperse the Islamic sect, that is premeditated murder. If we say the Nigerian Police cannot disperse unarmed stone/stick-wielding group, then we are simply saying we don't have a police force.

Let us get this one point very clear, SOLDIERS HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING OUTSIDE THEIR BARRACKS FULLY ARMED AND IN COMBAT MODE EXCEPT THEY ARE GOING FOR OPERATION WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE GOING TO DISPERSE A BUNCH OF RIOTOUS RELIGIOUS CROWD ON PROCESSION. The business of the army is the protection of the territorial integrity of the country. Soldiers are permitted to engage civilians only when Police and other law enforcement such as Civil Defence have conclusively failed to contain the situation and it must be in cases where the riotous assembly is populated by people who are ARMED with gun, not stick or stone.

Soldiers are trained to understand only "Open fire" and "Cease fire". You don't send soldiers against stone or stick wielding citizens. You send the Police who are trained and equipped with tear gas, rubber bullet, water cannisters etc.

The militarization of the civic spaces is itself a moral crime against the citizens. It speaks to a worrisome level of 'anyhowness' and a clear intent to massacre tax paying citizens who the government exists solely to serve and protect.

ANY COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OR ARMY CHIEF WHO SEND IN SOLDIERS TO CONFRONT UNARMED CIVILIANS HAS ONLY ONE THING IN MIND AND THAT IS THE MASSACRE OF THE SAID CIVILIAN CITIZENS. There is no "but", there is no "IF" here. In any confrontation between the Citizens and the government, the responsibility of applying restraints rests more with the government. We owe it to ourselves to stop diplomatizing and rationalizing needless state violence especially by a government that has repeatedly been found wanting in cases like ethnic cleansing by Fulani militias where that state violence are desperately needed.

It is important that we all remind ourselves that the Muhammadu Buhari led government has been holding the Shiite leader and his wife in detention since December 2015 AGAINST COURT ORDER that they be released. That is impunity of the highest order.

The Buhari government must obey the order of its own court by releasing the Shiite leader and his wife.

As the former head of Kenyan anti graft agency, professor PLO Lumumba would say "Peace can only be a product of intercourse between justice and truth. Any peace acquired through any other way is nothing but the peace of the grave yard which is no peace at all"

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Brains1990(m): 2:59pm On Oct 31, 2018
Kill those bleeping bastards.

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Wiseandtrue(f): 2:59pm On Oct 31, 2018
bilms:
What really happened between Shiite and army - IMN

https://mrrightsng.blogspot.com/2018/10/shiite-protests-what-really-happened-imn.html?m=1

Let me tell you in Abuja we held a daily sit-out for over a hundred days and nobody was hurt until they (security agents) came and attacked us.

I talk ABI I no talk am

Under President Mohammed Buhari, this current nepotic Nigerian Army has tapped the anointing of LIES and frame-up from APC!

A security organisation that swore to protect lives, take it with ease and without remorse undecided

Either Shiite or not, 17 Nigerians have gone over their right to protest over maltreatment melted out on them

And you said Buhari is not a terrorist

Or is he not aware of the happenings around him

Those of you supporting Buhari, I hope you will be happy if your love ones is one of those 17

To think that all these is just because they fail to recognise the office of hell rufai and Buhari undecided

May their souls rest in peace!

2019 is also here, let's make it right!

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Bede2u(m): 3:00pm On Oct 31, 2018
B4 buhari came to power, no one ever heard of shiites or ipob.

He made both groups popular with his high handedness...and now, no matter the number of projects he does, his govt will be remembered by their activities

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Back1lane: 3:00pm On Oct 31, 2018
chrisifeanyi:
The current Shiite imbroglio is a testament to d fact that it's d rule of law that guarantees national security. Once any "leader" attempts to subjugate d rule of law to his own whimsical interpretations & actions, he/she leaves d country open to all manner of skirmishes

Very true, this was how PDP subjugated NigerDelta now we have militants everywhere. It is also how PDP subjugated boko haram member and we are a living witnesses to the mayhem it bring but what I found baffling is that none of the roll call of the Igbos that are wailing about the situation now never wailed about it when PDP was in power.

So bros I ask is your new wailing, English style for the love of the country, because we know Igbo heart belong in utopia Biafra or simply for the hate of Buhari. Research confirmed the ceaseless wailing of many Igbo in Nigeria today is not for the love of the Nigeria nation rather an epitome of the irredeemable hate they herited from their parents.

razy75:
Bastaard BMC will dodge. Have you smelt the anus of your god buhari today?

Front roll seat to see how many Igbo will wail on this thread simply because of endemic inherited hate from the parents, # 1 is quoted above.

mushystuff:
Buhari and his APC goons have really and deliberately mismanaged this situation due to religious intolerance and sentiments. They will deliberately try to lure the unarmed citizens into confrontations with trigger-happy, hungry, deprived and untrained charlatans in army uniforms just for an excuse to shed the blood of so called enemies.

It is not as if this IMN just came into existence in 2015 in Nigeria so why the madness now if it's not because a religious and ethnic bigot became president in 2015?
# 2 above.

01mcfadden:
Hmm

“But we must remind them that the government is not sincere. A government that cannot protect the people when terrorists are shooting innocent citizens is today fighting and killing unarmed ones.

I spit on this government with zero regards for human right. Bubu is trained to lead soldiers and not civilians. He'd have been better off as the Chief of Army Staff.
. # 3 above.

chily11:
The Nigeria Army has lost its dignity. Over the years, they've been responsible and respected amongst the other arm forces in Africa but now it's motive is to make all opposition lifeless.
# 4 above. These Igbotic bigoted clowns are talking about the Nigeria soldiers that scamper into Cameroon at the mercy of BH when the PDP he intend to foster again on nigeria ruled.

Wiseandtrue:

I talk ABI I no talk am

Under President Mohammed Buhari, this current nepotic Nigerian Army has tapped the anointing of LIES and frame-up from APC!

A security organisation that swore to protect lives, take it with ease and without remorse undecided

Either Shiite or not, 17 Nigerians have gone over their right to protest over maltreatment melted out on them

And you said Buhari is not a terrorist
This hate drenched souls wails about Buhari but want PDP that anihalated Odi & Zaki Biam an entire community.
# 5 above.

Bede2u:
B4 buhari came to power, no one ever heard of shiites or ipob. He made both groups popular with his high handedness...and now, no matter the number of projects he does, his govt will be remembered by their activities
Hopelessly n senselessly lying just base on nothing but chronic devastating hate. Both Ipob n Shiite preceded Buhari.

Ogaga87:
This lifeless one should know that no vote is coming from these guys to him at all.. I wish they are more populated in kano where somebody will go and rake 5million votes next year..
# 6 above.

# 7 above.

# 8 above.

# 9 above.

# 10 above.

# 11 above.

# 12 above.

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by razy75: 3:01pm On Oct 31, 2018
Bastaard BMC will dodge. Have you smelt the anus of your god buhari today?

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Re: What Really Happened Between Shiite And Army- IMN by Admin401(m): 3:02pm On Oct 31, 2018
It's was just a peaceful protest with stones.

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