This is absolutely correct... Buhari and atiku are both future corruption to NIGERIA...and we Nigerian we keep on fighting for people who don't even care about us but cares more about their pocket... Nigerian don't think twice we just like to follow the party but not the corrupt personality....see Buhari and atiku should go and D I E....
TechCapon: This woman should stop disgracing herself up and down. She has no plans on how to make the country better that's why she continues to talk about pdp and apc. The people she's talking about are not even giving her any attention
U are probably one of those 87 million people buh ur ignorance will not let u see farther than ur nose... People like u are the foolish majority causing problem to the few progressive minds in Nigeria.. Imagine a comment from someone who claims he is sane...
U are probably one of those 87 million people buh ur ignorance will not let u see farther than ur nose... People like u are the foolish majority causing problem to the few progressive minds in Nigeria.. Imagine a comment from someone who claims he is sane...
They don't want to ever see the country progress in their lifetime.
TechCapon: This woman should stop disgracing herself up and down. She has no plans on how to make the country better that's why she continues to talk about pdp and apc. The people she's talking about are not even giving her any attention
but at least by running for president she is improving her popularity and public perception,making it eaiser for her to win in 2023,remember that that was what buhari did that brought him to power, he kept contesting till he was good enough to win!!
AMANPOUR: Would I be right in saying that yours is a real long shot candidacy, you know, one of the smaller parties, the main established
parties are kind of duking it out between themselves? What do you really expect to achieve by running for president?
EZEKWESILI: I hope to disrupt the politics of failure, the politics of bad governance and bad leadership that has only produced this small result.
Such that today, Nigeria as the world capital of extreme poverty, certainly unacceptable. That's what I intend to do, to disrupt this and build a
nation that is based on prosperity, stability, cohesion and equality of opportunity for our people.
AMANPOUR: OK. So, let's break this down because we have a graphic that shows that Nigeria has overtaken India as the world's greatest
concentration of extreme poverty, 87 million Nigerians live in extreme poverty and it's growing by six people per minute.
I guess what everybody will want to know is this, Nigeria is known for rampant corruption. I mean, unbelievable amounts of corruption. It is
also a really potentially rich state with all your oil, with all your natural resources. I mean, how is it possible that 87 million Nigerians
live at the poverty line or below?
EZEKWESILI: It is the -- it is what happens when there is a bad governance. Bad governance is so endemic when there are no expectations of
results from those that govern society. And therefore, there is no demand for accountability. And if and when there is demand for accountability,
there's no incentive on the part of the people who govern to produce results.
I was one of the co-founders of Transparency International and we know that corruption is a tax on the poor and we already know that there are ways to
tackle corruption. To prevent opportunities for corruption you reduce corruption. And part of what my agenda is, is to deregulate the economy in
the kind of way that public officials don't have too much presence in the economy, to be able to utilize it for personal gain.
And also, to compliment actions on the prevention side, which is system that punishes corruption every time it happens. Because then, you create a
deterrence against that very malignant cancerous action that has kept our country under developed, less modern at anything that we could have
imagined at independence.
AMANPOUR: Yes. You know, it is extraordinary because all those things you say make us sit back and take notice, particularly because we see so much
Nigerian money coming out of Nigeria, spent in the West on high-end real estate, on all sorts of, you know, playground of the rich and the powerful.
And I guess I'm trying to figure out, other people have complained as well, including the current president about corruption, they've all pledged to
somehow wipe it out. How will you take on these vested interests, these people who have, I guess, a reason to keep the system and the status quo?
EZEKWESILI: Well, the society knows me for having taken on them before. I was the one that walked on fixing of our public procurement system. It was
chaotic until I entered government many years ago, (INAUDIBLE) ago. And I effected the reform of the public procurement system and drew initiative
that was called due process, as a result of that work that fix up public procurement that used to be the honeypot of the politicians, the country
began to call me "Madam Due Process."
So the politicians know me. I am not a stranger to them at all. What I did in extractive industries transparency initiative is well-known,
globally. So I am not one who is going to be fazed by the strength of our political class. I think that the lack of courage on the part of our
society to stare down at these ones who have given us bad governance is now over. It is time to confront it and I believe that I am the candidate of
the Nigerian people.
We are not -- I am not running alone, as we say, we are all running, all of us that want a different country, a new direction for our country are
running together. This is a contest between the established class of politicians who have not delivered anything meaningful in governance and
the rest of us, I simply am the candidate who is providing the direction for the rest of society to take on this group. AMANPOUR: Now, as you mentioned, of course, you've been recognized for many of your efforts not just Transparency International, which got you a
Nobel Peace prize nomination but also you spearheaded the Bring Back Our Girls Movement when Boko Haram stole all those hundreds of Nigerian school
girls.
Tell me a little bit about how you came to do that? Your experience in public policy in the public sector in Nigeria.
EZEKWESILI: Well, I was -- I was saddened, I mean sad is such an underwhelming word to describe how I felt that my society was stealing the
children of the poor who went to school. Girls who went to school.
When I was Minister of Education, one of my reform areas had been in getting more girls to go to school especially in modern Nigeria where for
every five boys in school only one girl would be in school. And so when these girls went to school and were abducted. What I expected from my
government was immediate swift response, but that did not happen and I was completely aghast at it and I decided that on the basis of my shared
humanity with those girls that I was going to be a voice for them until they all come back.
As far as I am concerned, we have no credentials on which to ask girls to go to school around the world until the rest of the world and all of us
especially our government bring the remaining 112 Chibok girls back, as well as Leah Sharibu as well as Alice, a humanitarian aid worker who was
abducted because of meeting the needs of those who are displaced in our country.
AMANPOUR: You bring up another major issue, it's not just humanitarian, but its security. Your country is in a state of war with Boko Haram. Do
you have a plan for dealing with that aspect at the source, at the root? There's terrorism and there's war there.
EZEKWESILI: I think that the number one thing is we had a research at the World Bank that showed that in environments of conflicts, the most
important thing to do is to get that community thinking about jobs again, providing economic livelihoods for the people because that then dries up
the sauces of young people who have no stake in society and who are willing to unleash violence on their own society, so broadening security to be
human security is a major strategy for me and the second bit is to completely overhaul our security system and to ensure that there is
performance, accountability that is tied to results adequacy the top end is to make a lot out of intelligence.
Today's cutting edge technology means that we can be pre-emptive, we can be proactive. We can be preventive and that means we must walk with our
neighbors. We must walk with the rest of the world that can offer us support in every kind of definition of cutting edge expensive technology
that will enable us to have greater surveillance of our country and people.
AMANPOUR: All the candidates running including yourself are pro-American. You were educated at Harvard for a period of time and it's the second
richest country in Africa. What kind of relationship would you expect to have with the United States, and particularly, with President Trump who has
his own views about Africa, the transactional relationship and also his own -- you've heard what he said about a lot of African countries. I don't
need dot repeat it.
EZEKWESILI: I wouldn't be dignifying any of the pejorative words that have been used by the President of America. What I would simply do is show to
the President of America that is a contemporary in the leadership of countries.
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EZEKWESILI: His country and me leading my own country and what I would try to show clearly to him is that it is of interest to America that he should
maintain the global norms that enable America to be at the leading economy in the world as we watch the trend of the global economy, it is very clear
that even the US needs to continue to do even more with the rest of the world in order to maintain a reasonable level of economic prosperity and
trajectory that it has been known for.
Our country, Nigeria is a leading country in the world. We definitely have a lot of contributions that are notable around the world and we will do
more. Africa is going to be the center of our strategy but, our relationship with the rest of the world is going to be on the basis of its
strategy to be a productive country, a competitive country and a country that actually stakes a claim to the 21st Century.
AMANPOUR: We have a picture of yourself as a child with your father. And he once told you not to dignify a whole load of nonsense. What did he
mean? Tell me about that relationshipo?
EZEKWESILI: It was an amazing relationship. My dad believed that I could do anything and spoke it into me so often that I grew up not allowing
anybody to invalidate me because as I would say to them, my dad already validated me. So there's no words, there's not a thing that you say, there
is no opposition to me that can hold me back. My dad said I can do anything I choose to do.
AMANPOUR: So that's really adorable. It's really important as well. What is it like as a woman to come up through these political ranks in a male
dominated society and try to fight for the biggest prize?
EZEKWESILI: Leadership is gender neutral. What matters is that I come into these with character, competence and capacity. I can -- I am the
better candidate than the men that are in this race, even they would tell you that, so I'm simply going to keep on with the issues that I want to
solve. I'm a problem solver. The country knows me to be that. I am ready to do this. I always say to people who say, well, you're not a politician.
I say to them, that's fine. I know one thing, I know one thing and that one thing that I know is how to care for people. That's what governance
should be about, caring for your people. I bring that into this race alongside my character, competence and capacity. So I am really the
winning candidate in this race.
AMANPOUR: Well, you make a very strong case. Oby Ezekwesili, thank you so much for joining me.
87 million Nigerians live in poverty because the political structure created by northern military dictators springs up people like Buhari and Atiku from the north to preside over Nigeria.
When the northern political class are tired of ruling Nigeria, they support people like Olusegun Obasanjo or Goodluck Jonathan from the south as proxies.
Southern politicians, including Oby Ezrkwesili are merely employed by the politics of Nigeria When they lose out, they resort to siddon look, or to what Obiageli Ezrkwesili is now doing,merely to be heard so that next government can hear them for political appointments.
TechCapon: This woman should stop disgracing herself up and down. She has no plans on how to make the country better that's why she continues to talk about pdp and apc. The people she's talking about are not even giving her any attention
It is better we all have a rethink and forget about APC and PDP... these are the parties enslaved this Country till today. These are the two parties where you will find all the corrupt politicians. Save your vote for a better party not the one that will futher destroy your future.
It is better we all have a rethink and forget about APC and PDP... these are the parties enslaved this Country till today. These are the two parties where you will find all the corrupt politicians. Save your vote for a better party not the one that will futher destroy your future.
Well said. I find it shocking that so many Nigerians say they are tired of corruption, want a better nigeria, yet will still vote either PDC or apc and say they don’t want their vote to waste!!! We are a very shallow and hypocritical people indeed. The truth is that we condemn it from outside but many people wish they can also enter there and hammer their own and safeguard their own family, while everyone else can go to hell or come and be lining up by their gate, carrying bag for them and saying oga this and oga that.
I’m not say that anyone should necessarily vote Oby, but if you are really desirous of change then vote a candidate outside of pdp and apc and let your voice be heard. Your vote is not wasting!!!
Dreambeat: If Nigeria was a saner clime,Obi would have been a better candidate ahead of Buhari or Atiku
They won't vote for him based on tribalism and all. Nigeria is a country where the people are averse to anything good in fact they will try to kill that good thing. They will rather have an airhead like Buhari that cannot sit down for an interview where he will be able to articulate his plans just like this woman has done. They cannot vote for an obi or an Osinbajo or any person that actually has a plan to make their lives better but would rather vote for accidental presidents like Buhari. We don't need to ask why we have drifted deeper into the abyss of poverty.
Coming from someone who served as a minister under PDP. What was her achievement during that period? Someone who was also on the street to protest against subsidy removal during Jonathan's regime.
kirkwood: I really wish somebody of Trump's character would one day contest election under any of the two major political parties in Nigeria. Campaign period would never be this dull. Straight win.
Trump?. That's a complete idiot. Buhari, Atiku and especially Oby, Donald Duke, Moghalu are far more intelligent and capable than Trump. Trump is President because he is white and rich and Americans are having inferiority complex (sad) about their economy/trade/role/place in the modern world. The country is going down and they want to fight back with the greatest piss of shit (white) that they can find.
