As at the time their cases were instituted in court they were PDP members and the case was almost concluded. They joined APC to see if they could escape like Akpabio but the case had already gone too far.

ganye1:

Joshua Dariye and Jolly Nyame are members of APC.

am a proud Member of Comment Reader Association of Nairaland (CRAN) please keep it coming am just enjoying myself

naijapips04:


after all the noise making about fighting corruption the only 3 convictions you recorded were cases started years ago by the PDP.

fighting corruption indeed.

And they tell you that conviction is easy to secure within three years within Nigerian judicial system?

If it's so easy to secure, I think the PDP that started the cases that lasted for ten years could have recorded the convictions in three years before the left, as you want them to.

A typical criminal case in Nigeria takes between 7 to 10 years on average to fully prosecute. And that is just at the High Court level, not including Court of Appeal and Supreme Court stages. It becomes more difficult if the case is a high profile one involving powerful political elites on corruption charges.

Therefore, when a President complains of a slow Nigerian system which does not entail his Executive arm alone but also the Legislative and Judicial arms over which he has little or no influence, a deeply concerned citizen would reason with him and not just criticize him for the sake of easy criticism alone but think about the way out.

DMerciful:
As at the time their cases were instituted in court they were PDP members and the case was almost concluded. They joined APC to see if they could escape like Akpabio but the case had already gone too far.

No criminal case can go too far as to make it impossible for the State to stop, if they want to stop it, unless judgement has already been given. The Attorney General is empowered by the Constitution to discontinue any criminal case at any stage of its prosecution, if the President wants him to.

Clevite:
A typical criminal case in Nigeria takes between 7 to 10 years on average to fully prosecute. And that is just at the High Court level, not including Court of Appeal and Supreme Court stages. It becomes more difficult if the case is a high profile one involving powerful political elites on corruption charges.

Therefore, when a President complains of a slow Nigerian system which does not entail his Executive arm alone but also the Legislative and Judicial arms over which he has little or no influence, a deeply concerned citizen would reason with him and not just criticize him for the sake of easy criticism alone but think about the way out.

The Judiciary utilizes the law while the legislative and executive can make the laws.
Election tribunal cases used to take forever before a time frame was bench-marked for conclusion of all election related cases

Any government serious with fighting corruption will look into how to hasten the court process on corruption charges

No core northerner.
The South always sacrifice her own.

Fuckyoumod:
Can somebody tell me why Gandollar, Aisha and babachir are not on the list??

because Ganduje has immunity while other two is just mere allegations by those fighting back the corruption

Why will the president want to stop a case? Is that his job?

Clevite:

No criminal case can go too far as to make it impossible for the State to stop, if they want to stop it, unless judgement has already been given. The Attorney General is empowered by the Constitution to discontinue any criminal case at any stage of its prosecution, if the President wants him to.

Naija pple funny sha! So they were convicted but their sentences were commuted, and its a +for sai baba?

What it means by ‘commuting’ is that tho they were found guilty, they won’t be punished. How is that a win for the corruption fight?

Waspy:

The Judiciary utilizes the law while the legislative and executive can make the laws.
Election tribunal cases used to take forever before a time frame was bench-marked for conclusion of all election related cases

Any government serious with fighting corruption will look into how to hasten the court process on corruption charges

Any serious government ( I suppose you mean the Executive in this case) will look into how to hasten the court process, I agree with you. However, hastening the judicial process goes beyond the precinct of the Executive arm of government alone. It's a process involving the contribution and cooperation of the other arms, the Legislature and most especially the Judicial arm concerned. It will even involve the contribution of civil societies and private individuals.

No demoncratically elected President or Governor can take it upon himself to hasten a court process unilaterally or by executive fiat. Even the military in all their might could not do that. It involves a far reaching process, in most cases involving Constitutional amendment which takes a lot of time to do. Judicial reform will definitely involve tinkering with the Constitution.

And I must add that when it comes to making laws and instituting a system reform that will touch on the root of corruption in Nigeria; trust me, you must expect all manners of reactions at the levels of the Legislature, the Judiciary, the Executive. You can as well expect reactions at the level of the citizens, many of whom would be instigated to read political or even ethno-religious meanings into the reform efforts. There will be a stiff reaction that will make it linger long. It's not what will be achieved by an Administration. The Administration of Criminal Justice Act that recently came into being is a product of many years of consideration.

Ezezima2012:


What about other corrupt APC members; eg Amechi, Fashola,Oshiomole etc why are they not in jail?

Wait! What did Fashola steal or does it now mean anyone who has held public office should be jailed?

All Christians , no Muslim is corrupt , Abi?
Buhari, the religious and tribal bigot .

DMerciful:
Why will the president want to stop a case? Is that his job?

You made a comment that insinuated that Jolly Nyame and Dariye wouldn't have been convicted since they have joined the current ruling party but because their cases had gone too far and there was nothing the ruling party could do. That's why I tell you that, if their intention was never to convict the ex-Governors as a reward for joining the ruling party, that the President has the power to do so.

And yes, the President has the power to stop a criminal case. It is one of the Constitutional duties of the Executive headed by the President to institute cases against the any person that breaks the laws of the country at Federal level. It is one of his jobs to prosecute criminal cases through the Office of the Attorney General. The Attorney General has all the prosecuting institutions, including the EFCC, reporting to him. The Attorney General has the power take over any case being handled by any of those institutions and he can stop the case by withdrawing it from Court. The EFCC also has the power to withdraw a case at any level by itself.

Both the Attorney General and the EFCC Chairman are under the Executive control of the President and he has the power to instruct them to withdraw a criminal case against any person, if he wants to. Do you understand?

The EFCC and other anticorruption agencies are meant to be independent!

Clevite:

You made a comment that insinuated that Jolly Nyame and Dariye wouldn't have been convicted since they have joined the current ruling party but because their cases had gone too far and there was nothing the ruling party could do. That's why I tell you that, if their intention was never to convict the ex-Governors as a reward for joining the ruling party, that the President has the power to do so.

And yes, the President has the power to stop a criminal case. It is one of the Constitutional duties of the Executive headed by the President to institute cases against the any person that breaks the laws of the country at Federal level. It is one of his jobs to prosecute criminal cases through the Office of the Attorney General. The Attorney General has all the prosecuting institutions, including the EFCC, reporting to him. The Attorney General has the power take over any case being handled by any of those institutions and he can stop the case by withdrawing it from Court. The EFCC also has the power to withdraw a case at any level by itself.

Both the Attorney General and the EFCC Chairman are under the Executive control of the President and he has the power to instruct them to withdraw a criminal case against any person, if he wants to. Do you understand?

DMerciful:
The EFCC and other anticorruption agencies are meant to be independent!

But you insinuated the EFCC is not independent under this Administration and that's why they have not been able to record convictions, according to you, and that the only convictions they have recorded were only made possible because the cases were started by PDP! That's why I showed you that, if he truly wants to make them independent in the cases of the two ex-Governors we are talking about, he has the power to interfere because there is Constitutional cover under which he can hide to do so!

So you now agree that the President allowed the independece of EFCC to convict the ex-Governors without interfering?

Every time something good comes out of this government (like a major project commissioning or a criminal conviction) PDP people are always quick to shout out that it started during Jonathan.
But when something bad happens (like a recession or job losses) they refuse to agree that it started during Jonathan.

BTW, they are now claiming that the cases started during Jonathan but the Buhari government could have chosen to kill off the cases.
And why are the wailers expecting the EFCC to prosecute and jail fresh new suspects within 3 years of Buhari when the ones that started during Jonathan like Nyame and Dariye have taken 8 years?

Wailers/Ipob yoots have no sense.

All the legal processes leading to this conviction started since 2012

writerights:


Wait! What did Fashola steal or does it now mean anyone who has held public office should be jailed?

It seems you are a stranger or Simply you are deluded to make this comment

Three out of thousands

Bro,
It say 3 MOST SIGNIFICANT, others are in the post, please read carefully again.
It doesn't matter who started but being consistent.
Kindly support the war, you are needed to get there.
Thanks

naijapips04:


after all the noise making about fighting corruption the only 3 convictions you recorded were cases started years ago by the PDP.

fighting corruption indeed.

naijapips04:


after all the noise making about fighting corruption the only 3 convictions you recorded were cases started years ago by the PDP.

fighting corruption indeed.

shut up my friend. PDP started this PDP stared that. PDP dey forbid to finish wetin dem start? At least somebody is finishing something. Even the two ex govs decamped to APC yet they were still convicted for their crimes. No matter how u hate Buhari, applaud a good deed. Letting hatred chew away ur humanity will leave u a ravenous dog.

There is progress.

DMerciful:
As at the time their cases were instituted in court they were PDP members and the case was almost concluded. They joined APC to see if they could escape like Akpabio but the case had already gone too far.

Just accept the truth; they were convicted because the government refused to interfere in the case. Had the government wanted to interfere in the case they would have simply withdraw the case.