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Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by MrPresident1: 8:38am On Jan 04
hahn:


If it is supposed to be a "being" then yes but o course you are going to say it is "spiritual" which actually means it is imaginary. So we are back to square one.

How far? When are we expecting this year's failed end of the world prophecy from you?

Lol, you have not been filling the trump thread. It's my latest thread, Christ is coming anytime from now, we have heard the trump

What about beings like Sango, are they imaginary too?
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by LordReed(m): 8:52am On Jan 04
lightblazingnow:








17. For the scripture says to the king of Egypt, *I made you king in order to use you to show my power and to spread my fame over the whole world.*

18. So then, God has mercy on anyone he wishes, and he makes stubborn anyone he wishes.

19. But one of you will say to me, *If this is so, how can God find fault with anyone? Who can resist God's will?*

20. But who are you, my friend, to talk back to God? A clay pot does not ask the man who made it, *Why did you make me like this?*

21. After all, the man who makes the pots has the right to use the clay as he wishes, and to make two pots from the same lump of clay, one for special occasions and the other for ordinary use.


22. And the same is true of what God has done. He wanted to show his anger and to make his power known. But he was very patient in enduring those who were the objects of his anger, who were doomed to destruction.

23. And he also wanted to reveal his abundant glory, which was poured out on us who are the objects of his mercy, those of us whom he has prepared to receive his glory.

Neither does a pot worship its maker. Once you ask for a mind to perform tasks then you have set into motion a different category of being from mindless objects. If your god exists it either is not really that powerful or doesn't care.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by hahn(m): 9:33am On Jan 04
MrPresident1:


Lol, you have not been filling the trump thread. It's my latest thread, Christ is coming anytime from now, we have heard the trump

What about beings like Sango, are they imaginary too?

E be like say eye dey pain you abi?

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Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 10:00am On Jan 04
Hallelujah
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by Dantedasz: 8:15pm On Jan 04
So God blinds human beings eyes. Interesting.
After saying this you will tell me that man has FREE WILL to choose the path he wants to take to avoid being roasted in an eternal fire?

Religionists never surprise me.
First it is free will.
Then it is you are going to roast in hell fire.
Then Satan/the Devil is to blame for evil and sin.
And when you ask-why God who created everything has failed to destroy the devil (the cause of sin) they will tell you that God works in a mysterious way.

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Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 10:21pm On Jan 04
Glory
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by XxSabrinaxX(f): 10:37pm On Jan 04
lightblazingnow:


If you are here to debate we are sorry, this issue is non debatable.



If you are blind, cry out to see the unseen
Why create a thread if you're not willing to have a discussion?
You are truly one confused human being.

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Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 7:02am On Jan 05
XxSabrinaxX:

Why create a thread if you're not willing to have a discussion?
You are a truly one confused human being.


How are you doing. Saw you reading and all of a sudden, you became restless and tasteless and difficult to handle.



Always know that we love you ever despite the differences
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by XxSabrinaxX(f): 7:22am On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:



How are you doing. Saw you reading and all of a sudden, you became restless and tasteless and difficult to handle.



Always know that we love you ever despite the differences
Shut up, you're so boring

Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 8:33am On Jan 05
XxSabrinaxX:

Shut up, you're so boring


We don't speak such language and we never hear it.

Love leads we follow.

Cast out those voices in you
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by LordReed(m): 9:00am On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:



We don't speak such language and we never hear it.

Love leads we follow.

Cast out those voices in you

Hypocrite. When you were busy insulting people you didn't remember this did you?
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by orisa37: 9:07am On Jan 05
For those who don't believe in The Cross of Jesus and in The Crisis of Christ, they are #Atheist. Do not be yoked with them.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 10:41am On Jan 05
LordReed:


Hypocrite. When you were busy insulting people you didn't remember this did you?


That kind of voice is far fainted that could be heard, did you hear such??


Life ooooooo
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 10:53am On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:



21. At that time Jesus was filled with joy by the Holy Spirit and said, *Father, Lord of heaven and earth! I thank you because you have shown to the unlearned what you have hidden from the wise and learned. Yes, Father, this was how you were pleased to have it happen.

22. *My Father has given me all things. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.*

23. Then Jesus turned to the disciples and said to them privately, *How fortunate you are to see the things you see!

24. I tell you that many prophets and kings wanted to see what you see, but they could not, and to hear what you hear, but they did not.*

They are just words on paper... That does not mean it is true... People lie all the time.. And write gabage just to deceive others.. Do your own research to find out if you will arive at same conclusion.. So that it becomes your truth..
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 10:57am On Jan 05
sonmvayina:


They are just words on paper... That does not mean it is true... People lie all the time.. And write gabage just to deceive others.. Do your own research to find out if you will arive at same conclusion.. So that it becomes your truth..


Believe or in belief
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 11:08am On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:


Believe or in belief
I am referring to the passages you quoted above, they are just words of somebody who is not an eye witness to the account he or she is giving.. And he did not tell us how he came about the story.. So if you are wise, you won't just put all your life or faith on it, you will investigate the story to see if it is genuine..
For some of us on this forum, we have done that and found it to be a forgery and fabrication.. You can imagine the pain if after 30-50 years of belief, you discover that the gospel is a lie..
I know how difficult it can be, given the fact that you have invested your whole life on it.. It is difficult to let it go and turn back..

It is with great pain..
Just realise that it is all literature.. Words on paper... No substance.. The earlier you realise that the better..
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 12:04pm On Jan 05
sonmvayina:

I am referring to the passages you quoted above, they are just words of somebody who is not an eye witness to the account he or she is giving.. And he did not tell us how he came about the story.. So if you are wise, you won't just put all your life or faith on it, you will investigate the story to see if it is genuine..
For some of us on this forum, we have done that and found it to be a forgery and fabrication.. You can imagine the pain if after 30-50 years of belief, you discover that the gospel is a lie..
I know how difficult it can be, given the fact that you have invested your whole life on it.. It is difficult to let it go and turn back..

It is with great pain..
Just realise that it is all literature.. Words on paper... No substance.. The earlier you realise that the better..


Those aren't just words, they have been confirmed by the truth. Don't forget the Holy Spirit is truth. With signs and diverse miraculous works.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 12:29pm On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:



Those aren't just words, they have been confirmed by the truth. Don't forget the Holy Spirit is truth. With signs and diverse miraculous works.

I don't want to believe you are not a graduate, did you not write a project? Did you not defend it? Did you not do a thorough research so that when the professors asked you question you can logically defend it.. You dont start bringing in things that only exist it your mind.. Or things that are abstract... They will fail you..
Apply the same wisdom here, there is no where outside of the Bible that jesus existed, so it is just a story.. Much like Harry Potter.. The Messiah the Jewish prophet wrote about is an ordinary man like you and me.. From the root of David.. He is coming to usher in an era of Peace and rule in an earthly Kingdom.. No more wars and oppression.. The new convenant was a convenant of everlasting peace.. The Messiah was not coming to die for sins.. There was already a solution to the problem of sin in the old testament..

Like i said it is difficult to unlearn... It was the Romans than created jesus as an insult against God.. Because EVERYTHING God created was under his authority and control, the devil was not an exception... The devil was never equal and opposite to God.,neither was he independent... Same thing in our traditional African culture.. Esu or Ekwensu are not independent of Eledumare or Chukwu..
The prophet Daniel prophesied it in Dan7 :25..read from verse 1to get a clearer picture.. Thank you.

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Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 2:18pm On Jan 05
sonmvayina:


I don't want to believe you are not a graduate, did you not write a project? Did you not defend it? Did you not do a thorough research so that when the professors asked you question you can logically defend it.. You dont start bringing in things that only exist it your mind.. Or things that are abstract... They will fail you..
Apply the same wisdom here, there is no where outside of the Bible that jesus existed, so it is just a story.. Much like Harry Potter.. The Messiah the Jewish prophet wrote about is an ordinary man like you and me.. From the root of David.. He is coming to usher in an era of Peace and rule in an earthly Kingdom.. No more wars and oppression.. The new convenant was a convenant of everlasting peace.. The Messiah was not coming to die for sins.. There was already a solution to the problem of sin in the old testament..

Like i said it is difficult to unlearn... It was the Romans than created jesus as an insult against God.. Because EVERYTHING God created was under his authority and control, the devil was not an exception... The devil was never equal and opposite to God.,neither was he independent... Same thing in our traditional African culture.. Esu or Ekwensu are not independent of Eledumare or Chukwu..
The prophet Daniel prophesied it in Dan7 :25..read from verse 1to get a clearer picture.. Thank you.


Have you tasted the living words before
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 3:09pm On Jan 05
sonmvayina:


I don't want to believe you are not a graduate, did you not write a project? Did you not defend it? Did you not do a thorough research so that when the professors asked you question you can logically defend it.. You dont start bringing in things that only exist it your mind.. Or things that are abstract... They will fail you..
Apply the same wisdom here, there is no where outside of the Bible that jesus existed, so it is just a story.. Much like Harry Potter.. The Messiah the Jewish prophet wrote about is an ordinary man like you and me.. From the root of David.. He is coming to usher in an era of Peace and rule in an earthly Kingdom.. No more wars and oppression.. The new convenant was a convenant of everlasting peace.. The Messiah was not coming to die for sins.. There was already a solution to the problem of sin in the old testament..

Like i said it is difficult to unlearn... It was the Romans than created jesus as an insult against God.. Because EVERYTHING God created was under his authority and control, the devil was not an exception... The devil was never equal and opposite to God.,neither was he independent... Same thing in our traditional African culture.. Esu or Ekwensu are not independent of Eledumare or Chukwu..
The prophet Daniel prophesied it in Dan7 :25..read from verse 1to get a clearer picture.. Thank you.


Have you tasted the living words Please words of faith are the most powerful instruments in the universe. It's not by word, it's by the Spirit. Much more than anything
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 3:11pm On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:



Have you tasted the living words before



Sorry oh, I thought I was having a conversation with a matured adult.. No vex..
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 3:17pm On Jan 05
sonmvayina:


Sorry oh, I thought I was having a conversation with a matured adult.. No vex..


Hahahaha....



We laugh each time folks talk about my living word with so much ignorance. Do you ever know who Christ Jesus is, most of you are in such deepest darkness...



If you haven't experienced external life, my dear no one on earth can show him. He himself will make himself known to you as the scripture revealed.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 6:32pm On Jan 05
lightblazingnow:



Hahahaha....



We laugh each time folks talk about my living word with so much ignorance. Do you ever know who Christ Jesus is, most of you are in such deepest darkness...



If you haven't experienced external life, my dear no one on earth can show him. He himself will make himself known to you as the scripture revealed.

You can wallow In your delusion... When the time comes, you will know.. If not in this life, maybe in the next..
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 10:20pm On Jan 05
sonmvayina:


You can wallow In your delusion... When the time comes, you will know.. If not in this life, maybe in the next..


Maybe you are chosen maybe not we may not conclude right away time will tell....



Still love you passionately
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 8:03am On Jan 06
No one else will do
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by IamTheAnswers: 8:45am On Jan 06
Please prayer
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 9:10am On Jan 06
Love it
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by CodeSapien: 3:33pm On Jan 07
Seun:
Why would God choose to randomly blind some people’s eyes? How would that help to achieve His goal of being worshipped by the whole world?
In Job case God didn't afflict him but allowed the attack of the devil to go through and then prove a point.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 7:02pm On Jan 11
Jesus
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 12:00am On Jan 12
We gain forgiveness of sins through repentance directly to the Most High like we always have. Right from the beginning we are told turn and we will be forgiven. To Cain -
Gen 4:7 "Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it.""

Leviticus 26:38-42 tells us when we are cast from the land, repent and our sins will be forgiven.

In 1 Kings 8:46-50 Solomon tells us in his prophetic speech that when there is no temple in the future (no sacrifice, no high priest) and we're in exile, turn toward where the temple was, pray directly to the Most High, repent and ALL our sins are forgiven. He doesn't say the Most High is sending his son, believe in him your sins will be forgiven, He doesn't say that. No mediator, no J-s, no temple, so no sacrifice, no high priest, just pray directly to the Most High and ALL your sins will be forgiven. That's why when the first Temple was destroyed we knew what to do.

Ninevah was forgiven as a result of their repentance alone Jonah 3:7-10, and King David was forgiven with his only his confession before the prophet Nathan 2 Sam 12:13. Daniel prays for forgiveness when he has no Temple or sacrifice Dan 9:4-20. Furthermore, sin sacrifices were only for sins done unintentionally Lev 4-5 and if someone did sin unintentionally, for which the sin sacrifice was the prescribed atonement, a human sacrifice was never permitted, it was forbidden Deuteronomy 12:30-31, Jeremiah 19:4-6, Psalm 106:37-38, Ezekiel 16:20, Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18.

No human sacrifice needed, no blood, no asking anyone into your heart just pray to the Most High, repent and be forgiven.
2 Chronicles 7:14 "if My people, upon whom My name is called, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their evil ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

Hosea also speaks of this time now. He says we will be without a king, prince, sacrifice, high priest(he wore the ephod) for a long time and then end of days will come.
Hos 3:4 "For the children of Israel shall sit solitary many days without king, and without prince, and without sacrifice, and without pillar, and without ephod or teraphim;
Hos 3:5 afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek YHWH their Elohim, and David their king; and shall come trembling unto YHWH and to His goodness in the end of days."

Complete forgiveness is found in the Tanakh(OT). Isaiah lays out The Most High's Salvation Plan here:
Isa 55:6 "Seek ye YHWH while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near;
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the man of iniquity his thoughts; and let him return unto YHWH, and He will have compassion upon him, and to our Elohim, for He will abundantly pardon. "

Isaiah is saying the Most High will forgive you, just call on Him, don't be afraid. Notice what's not there. If Isaiah believed J-s why didn't he just say, Let the wicked man believe on My son who died for your sins, wash in the blood of J-s, speak in tongues and that's how you are fully forgiven saved and go to heaven? There is nothing Christian about this text. Repent and The Most High will freely forgive you, that's it. Then look what Isaiah says:

"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith YHWH."
Isa 55:8
" For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts."
Isa 55:9

It doesn't matter how bad our sin is, the Most High will forgive us beyond our comprehension because His ways are higher than our ways, His thoughts than our thoughts.

Ezekiel 18 and 33 also speak of this.

Complete forgiveness is throughout the Tanakh(OT). Here are just some of the passages, you can find more by searching the term forgive or forgiveness:
Isa 44:21 "Remember these, O Jacob; and Israel, for you are My servant; I formed you that you be a servant to Me, Israel, do not forget Me.
Isa 44:22 I erased your transgressions like a thick cloud, and like a cloud have I erased your sins; return to Me for I have redeemed you."

Isa 45:17 "But Israel shall be saved in YHWH with an Everlasting Salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end."
We don't need J-s to save us, the Most High has and is continually saving us.

Isa 43:25 "I, I AM HE who BLOTS OUT your transgressions for My own sake, and remember your sins no more."

Isa 43:11" I, I, am YHWH; and beside Me there is no saviour."

Isa 46:9 "Remember the former things of old: that I am El, and there is none else; I am Elohim, and there is none like Me; "
>>It is the Most High Alone that Saves

Isa 45:21 "Declare ye, and bring them near, yea, let them take counsel together: Who hath announced this from ancient time, and declared it of old? Have not I YHWH? And there is no Elohim else beside Me, a just El and a Saviour; there is none beside Me."
>>There is no trinity, there is no salvation through any other.

Isa 45:22 "Turn to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am El, and there is none else."

Psa 103:12 "As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions from us."

Isa 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith YHWH; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
We already have forgiveness in the Tanakh, the Most High's Salvation Plan, all we need to do is repent and obey Torah.

The sacrifices, the Korban, are for drawing near to the Most High, its where the heavenly meets the earthly, where the spiritual meets the physical. Its beautiful and I look forward to it when the third temple is built and fully functioning again. You can read about it in Ezekiel 45-46, Ezekiel 34-48 is all messianic.

There is no need for J-s, there never was.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by orisa37: 7:31am On Jan 12
lightblazingnow:
Jesus
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They are Atheists, irreligious, uncharitable and complacent.
Re: To Those Who Couldn't Believe In The Person Of Christ Jesus by lightblazingnow(m): 8:09am On Jan 13
Christ Jesus

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