African Economic and Trade negotiators need a touch of history not by miseducation or threat of war.

Where are the children of the Zulu, Ashanti and Yoruba that stood down the British and fought gallantly against domineering the trade routes in Africa? It has been postulated for a long time by a few historians that religious capture of Africa was not by force but by persuasion or gentle religious conversions. Actually, nothing can be further from the truth over centuries. African Economic and Trade negotiators need a touch of history not by miseducation or threat of war.

This is why Africans accept Structural Adjustment: devaluation of African currencies in countries with more gold reserves than foreign gold standard. It is no more only the Europeans and Arabs; but Americans, Russians and Asians are now principals and competing partners for the rush into African resources. By exchanging it almost for nothing paid in Zimbabwe dollars. The motivation of the Moroccan Army in the ancient invasion of Songhai was for the same economic greed to convert resources that had been exposed by Christian Muslims missionaries and our Emperors.

One of the ancient trade routes for kola nuts and of course gold from Ashanti and Oyo regions into Gao opened before that of Oyo, Hausa States and Timbuktu route. Africa traded with one another horizontally in The Rainforest as freemen before contemporary notion as slaves sold vertically to the Middle East, Europe and Americas. Their presence was known and recorded in various terms by Herodotus, Ibn Battuta and later by Ahmed Baba. These Emperors and kings were what the British and Moroccan Army met, destroyed and whitewashed (as Hamitic).

Chaka Zulu extraordinary accomplishment with locally made weapons, obliterated 1500 British soldiers and defeated their Army at Isandhlwana. This was the greatest triumph of an African Army against Europeans in sub-Saharan Africa. But then, the British always sought vengeance.

The British never gave up, they had to send for reinforcement from home and locals, employed African soldiers against Africans to buoy their troops. In 1789 the British eventually defeated the Zulu at the Battle of Ulundi. In order to prevent more starvation of his people, the Zulu king ordered his warriors to stop fighting. British always use protectorate for self-economic interest.

Ashanti forces in 1873, also surrounded the British protectorate that was too close for comfort, invaded and subdued them. After this remarkable initial success, the British forced Ashanti to retreat. The attempt to negotiate a peaceful resolution was rejected by the British commander, Sir Garnet Wolseley. In January 1874 a large British Army with African soldiers led by Wolseley fought into Ashanti land. They captured Kumasi, the Ashanti capital, ruined and set it ablaze.

Jaja of Opobo that was one of the first African nationalist bypassing the British as middlemen to establish independent trade route to Europe as an indigenous produce export trader; used his influence and wealth from the palm oil trade to grab enormous political and military power. He was so powerful, in 1875 the British sought his Army’s help to prosecute the Ashanti War.

Queen Victoria rewarded him with a sword of honor (Fajana and Biggs 1976:138). Appreciation for helping to put down his Ashanti brothers’ struggle against the British that came to divide African trade for the British. Today, rewards are from London School of Economics and Harvard.

Contrasting Jaja and Nana with their contemporaries such as Sultan Attahiru of Sokoto, Oba Ovonramwen of Benin and Awujale Aboki Tunwase of Ijebuland, to mention but a few, fought relentlessly to defend the corporate existence and political sovereignties of their respective kingdoms. If open aggression failed then, Structural Adjustment and Devaluation are worse.

Ironically, when the Yoruba in Ilorin wanted to subjugate their fellow Yoruba, they sought the help of some Fulani that backfired on them. They provoked united Yoruba Army led by Ibadan, halted at Oshogbo by soundly routing enemies out, to shambles. Surviving Fulani mercenaries were released back to their enclaves while their Ilorin Yoruba leaders were beheaded in Oyo.

Indeed, when the Ijebu fought the British, if the Yoruba had united their Army the same way they did against Ilorin and their mercenaries at Oshogbo, to support their own blood and kin; Yoruba land could have been liberated from European Army’s devilish economic interest.

Most Africans do not realize we spend disproportional part of our income buying ammunition from super powers that we can make ourselves in Africa. Countries like South Africa, Iran and India make their own. Actually, Iran did bluff that unlike Saudi Arabia, Iran don’t have to depend on the super powers for arms. So more African countries can start making their own arms too.

Even Vice Admiral Michael Franken, Deputy Commander of Operations for US Africa Command (AFRICOM) that was at Fletcher Maritime Studies Program in the School of Government at Harvard in March 2017, wondered how Nigeria could possibly afford to buy the type of fighter jet requested to fight Boko Haram when it would take up most of its budget. The same money could be used to produce their own, fortify soldiers, for food, infrastructure and education.

Usually, there are agreements in place with super powers that restrict buyers. Their fighter jets or advanced warships must not be retrofitted, adapted or produce spare parts locally. A country like Iran and others have violated each of these. Indeed, Russia and China copy US made fighters when available to them, through third parties or when bought directly. They then violate all the agreements that came with each.

There is always the fear of one African ethnic domination over the other if manufacturing plant is located in one region. However, these plants can be divided into different locations so that they can create a balance just like the refineries of crude oil or industrial farms. If it is highly secretive, it can still be built in a central location, easily accessible to the whole country.

Mind you, nobody is agitating for arms factory instead of food and consumer goods factories. Indeed, in a civilized world, neither super powers nor developing countries should champion arm production race. It only appeals to our animalistic instinct to dominate one another by force since the days of bow and arrows. Human, resort to force when our mental faculties have gone ballistic and we could not negotiate a peace or trade treaty.

Instead of peaceful trade worldwide, we have skewed, unfair and unbalanced trade that favor the most powerful countries. Each time they negotiate with poor or developing countries, they always weld a big stick bragging they would “bomb the hell” out of us. As developing countries, Africa has hardly got a fair shake since the ancient times when we dominated the gold, salt and kolanut market.

Nevertheless, as chivalry, guns and bombs replaced and dominated the trade route, peaceful trade faded in favor of domineering empires looking to capture natural resources and slaves. The more Africans resigned themselves to superior fire threats, the more their religious and domineering cultures entrenched themselves. They came to repress and dislodge our own civilization and replaced it with theirs, as peaceful co-existence within their protectorates.

Source: Farouk Martins Aresa
Published: Sunday, January 20, 2019
https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/274836/european-arab-ancient-trade-war-on-africans-continues.html#

Yoruba and revisionism, best friends ever.

So basically this thread was to falsely show the former Slave coast as being brave against the British


LOL


Yoruba Yoruba Yoruba.......Those propaganda tactics that used to work finally broke in 2015 when an Ijaw man was of course betrayed.....

Banmeallday:
So basically this thread was to falsely show the former Slave coast as being brave against the British


LOL


Yoruba Yoruba Yoruba.......Those propaganda tactics that used to work finally broke in 2015 when an Ijaw man was of course betrayed.....

though, I am not sure you actually know where the slave coast was located. But you are right on the fact that yoruba have replaced history with propaganda.

This author wrote about the African rebellion against ancient trade monopoly of the British against Zulu, Ashanti, Yoruba, Igbo, Benin etc.

It is still going in in one form or the other now.

You guys picked Yoruba out of all these for spite. Your problems are beyond Yoruba and inferiority complex, it is self mutilation and destruction of your own very being.

Clap for yourself.

nobaga:

This author wrote about the African rebellion against ancient trade monopoly of the British against Zulu, Ashanti, Yoruba, Igbo, Benin etc.

It is still going in in one form or the other now.

You guys picked Yoruba out of all these for spite. Your problems are beyond Yoruba and inferiority complex, it is self mutilation and destruction of your own very being.

Clap for yourself.

I picked the Yoruba because their story is a big lie. They got their assed kicked by the Fulani, that is how they lost illorin. But they want to turn their defeat into a victory of some sort. Precolonial
british economic war against the Yoruba makes no sense, the Yoruba have always been servile to the British, most of these Yoruba were actually brought into the region by European and American vessels after the Yoruba were freed from their servitude in the Americas and Europe

Prolog2,

Just saw your other posts only to realize you are a Yoruba hater still nursing the wound Oba inflicted on Ogiso and captured their crown.

In this modern age you are still fighting your conqueror but you worship their God/gods, bear their names if you belong to the Royal class and speak their language among other customs brought to open your eyes.

Nobody heard or knew of Ogiso until Oba came and elevated you in the region. The question now is if a river can deny it's source without drying up.

Do, make your rounds denouncing your slave masters.

prolog2:
I picked the Yoruba because their story is a big lie. They got their assed kicked by the Fulani, that is how they lost illorin. But they want to turn their defeat into a victory of some sort. Precolonial
british economic war against the Yoruba makes no sense, the Yoruba have always been servile to the British, most of these Yoruba were actually brought into the region by European and American vessels after the Yoruba were freed from their servitude in the Americas and Europe

Yoruba never fought the British. At least not on any appreciable scale.
They were the first to surrender in southern Nigeria.

Igbos and other riverine ethnics fought the British, not forgetting the bini kingdom too.

Stop these mindless revisionism.

For those who claimed Yoruba never fought the British, research is your friend or google.

Oluwa fought them to the highest court in England represented by Herbert Macauley in court.

CHIEF OLUWA (AMADU TIJANI): GREAT NIGERIAN NATIONALIST, PAN-AFRICANIST AND A TRADITIONAL RULER WHO TOOK BRITAIN TO COURT IN 1921 FOR STEALING LAGOS LANDS AND WON A HUGE COMPENSATION

https://kwekudee-tripdownmemorylane..com/2014/09/chief-oluwa-amadu-tijani-great-nigerian.html

Kosoko fought them for the wrong reason to keep slave trade.

Ijebu fought them over trade:

British-Ijebu War of 1892 (Battle Of Imagbon)

The final battle by which Ijebu fell took place on 19 May 1892 at the village of Imagbon. This short war claimed the lives of up to a thousand Ijebu.

The Yoruba country had been connected with England throughout the 19th century, since the days when the slave-trade on the West Coast of Africa flourished. And the connexion had been maintained, and in latter days on happier lines. The Yoruba country lies to the west and south of the River Niger. Its western boundary was the French territory of Dahomey. On the north it extended almost to the Niger, while on the south the Atlantic Ocean washed its sandy coast-line. A break in the coast-line indicated the entrance to the lagoon and the situation of the island of Lagos. To the north-east of Lagos lay a patch of country about 40 by 40 miles in extent, covered with dense forest, and watered by numerous streams and rivulets, which found their way to the great lagoon on the south, and finally into the Atlantic.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/british-ijebu.htm

nobaga

I am laughing because you Yoruba confuse fiction with reality. Ogiso, oranmyan, odudwa are nothing but fairytales the first written work about the region took place more than 600 years ago and those who wrote the work met a devine Oba in Benin City leading a vast empire. But brain cells, you Yoruba have none. You guys are one strange people who believe everybody else should just believe your childish fables, because you think we are children ? By the way, since you like to talk about rivers, remind me where the bight of Ife or bight of Oyo is ? All I know is bight of Benin. Go to museums in Western nations, Benin bronze is everywhere... When you make up a story to aggrandize yourself, tell it to your children only, don't be stupid enough to believe you can tell that story to adults. A post colonial country even took the name Benin. Nobody took the name Oyo nor Ife.

nobaga:
For those who claimed Yoruba never fought the British, research is your friend or google.

Oluwa fought them to the highest court in England represented by Herbert Macauley in court.

CHIEF OLUWA (AMADU TIJANI): GREAT NIGERIAN NATIONALIST, PAN-AFRICANIST AND A TRADITIONAL RULER WHO TOOK BRITAIN TO COURT IN 1921 FOR STEALING LAGOS LANDS AND WON A HUGE COMPENSATION

https://kwekudee-tripdownmemorylane..com/2014/09/chief-oluwa-amadu-tijani-great-nigerian.html

Kosoko fought them for the wrong reason to keep slave trade.

Ijebu fought them over trade:

British-Ijebu War of 1892 (Battle Of Imagbon)

The final battle by which Ijebu fell took place on 19 May 1892 at the village of Imagbon. This short war claimed the lives of up to a thousand Ijebu.

The Yoruba country had been connected with England throughout the 19th century, since the days when the slave-trade on the West Coast of Africa flourished. And the connexion had been maintained, and in latter days on happier lines. The Yoruba country lies to the west and south of the River Niger. Its western boundary was the French territory of Dahomey. On the north it extended almost to the Niger, while on the south the Atlantic Ocean washed its sandy coast-line. A break in the coast-line indicated the entrance to the lagoon and the situation of the island of Lagos. To the north-east of Lagos lay a patch of country about 40 by 40 miles in extent, covered with dense forest, and watered by numerous streams and rivulets, which found their way to the great lagoon on the south, and finally into the Atlantic.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/british-ijebu.htm

So only small jebu which didn't consider itself Yoruba at that time almost fought, the rest of you lot just bended over ....

Prolog2,

I did not know you are hooked on the bottle and cannot let go on Oba, Ile-Ibinu translated by no other than your Yoruba Oba that wrote a revision that gave the slaves his Oranmiyan ascestors conquered big mouth.

Who else would pay any attention to Edo slaves if you do not cling to Oba and Benin?

So your lineage started 600 years ago. Nobody before that?

You have been dared to stop leasing the land upon which Yoruba conquered you during coronation ceremonies, and witness the end of your generation.

nobaga:

Prolog2,

I did not know you are hooked on the bottle and cannot let go on Oba, Ile-Ibinu translated by no other than your Yoruba Oba that wrote a revision that gave the slaves his Oranmiyan ascestors conquered big mouth.

Who else would pay any attention to Edo slaves if you do not cling to Oba and Benin?

So your lineage started 600 years ago. Nobody before that?

You have been dared to stop leasing the land upon which Yoruba conquered you during coronation ceremonies, and witness the end of your generation.

Yoruba idiot who believes his own lies, what is being reenacted is a civil war in which some nobles tried to seize power from the emperor and they failed which led the emperor to be even stronger. But you outsiders tell your lies on the topic and then you try to serve your lies to the people who know exactly what is happening. It is just as if a blind man were telling me my hair is blue and then I say no and he keeps arguing. Everybody knows Yoruba are an amalgamation of different tribes most of whom are slave returnees. Once you were dumped by Europeans, you started your revisionism to brainwash the locals into accepting you as their brothers. Your ancestral land is in Brazil. You are not from here. I see you keep hanging on to a simple fairytale. How dumb are you ? The fact is nobody knows what happened before people who could write visited the region, only God can give you that information. Lack of knowledge shouldn't push people into believing just any stupid nonsensical fairytale.

Prolog? - what is being reenacted is a civil war in which some nobles tried to seize power from the emperor and they failed which led the emperor to be even stronger.

There you go, they kicked your butts and you started carrying their junks.

You are now trying insults since you have run out of facts or history. Just to let you know, Yoruba historiography went well beyond thousands of years, not 600. They claim they do not know who were the Nok culture but terracotta archaeological evidence can only be traced south to the Yoruba. The same about Iwo-Eleru, 10-12,000 BC but only found within Yoruba. Arts, Iron and brass you copied came from your conqueror. Osun, Ogun and other gods belong to the Yoruba. Stop fighting, its too late in the day. Ogiso is gone forever. Edo rulers don open eye!

Actually Ogiso children of Edo invited Yoruba Oba after their king killed a pregnant woman and committed several hostilities to his subjects, some of whom fled.
If you want facts revealed by archaeological and radiocarbon dating, read or research more or ask google.

Insults and name calling will not help you.

prolog2:
Yoruba idiot who believes his own lies, what is being reenacted is a civil war in which some nobles tried to seize power from the emperor and they failed which led the emperor to be even stronger. But you outsiders tell your lies on the topic and then you try to serve your lies to the people who know exactly what is happening. It is just as if a blind man were telling me my hair is blue and then I say no and he keeps arguing. Everybody knows Yoruba are an amalgamation of different tribes most of whom are slave returnees. Once you were dumped by Europeans, you started your revisionism to brainwash the locals into accepting you as their brothers. Your ancestral land is in Brazil. You are not from here. I see you keep hanging on to a simple fairytale. How dumb are you ? The fact is nobody knows what happened before people who could write visited the region, only God can give you that information. Lack of knowledge shouldn't push people into believing just any stupid nonsensical fairytale.

the biased mod will ban you for this but won't ban the person that insulted another ethnic group. Nairaland is shit

Igbobyblood:
the biased mod will ban you for this but won't ban the person that insulted another ethnic group. Nairaland is shit

explain this direct to Yoruba

goalernestman:


explain this direct to Yoruba

what's that? Explain please

Igbobyblood:
what's that? Explain please

i think the pictures have already did. because the truth cant be hid, but my advise is for Yoruba to stop claiming Edo history