: The funny part is that most atheists in their initial stage of self discovery often have the idea that they are the only ones.
It is only with time that they, like myself, begin to realize that other people have thrown God in the dust bin
Therefore, no atheist gets influenced by other atheists. You only become an atheist by questioning your own belief
4evergod and kingebukasblog are being childish as usual
Awon omo mummy Small boy there is no self discovery in atheism. If there was then we would not be getting the same repeated questions and arguments over and over again. You all do copy and paste from each other just to appear relevant and intelligent when all it does is show your inability to reason without the help of another atheist.
Go through both local and international atheist arguments its the same material. Nothing new! All borrow pose arguments.
You guys should try being original and thinking for yourselves.
You lot are unintelligent and extremely irrational with low self esteem and can only be relevant off of Religion. The Atheist park bench must be a lonely one
This is one of those threads Seun would rather not say a word on. He would be busy trying to come up with his usual videos mocking christianity and pushing it to front page in order to counter this thread.
By 2025 there will be over 6,000,000 fewer atheist world-wide, that’s a loss of about 1,700 atheist a day over the next ten years according to a report on the status of Global Missions in 2014 by Gordon Conwell Theological Seminar.
I began researching this trend recently after watching this video from Zach Anner about Sunday Assembly, which is basically a secular/atheistic attempt at doing church!
peacesamuel94: It's not because they feel threatened, only that they consider other religious beliefs to be more reasonable than atheism, coupled with the fact that atheists usually cite mark Zuckerberg as an example of influential atheists in the world before now.
Dont mind the damage control specialists. This one seriously rubbed them the wrong way. See how they are all over the thread throwing red herrings and strawmen along with goalpost shiftings . Atheism is on life support
This hypocrites will always want to distance Christianity from religion when it suits them. They say Christianity is not a religion but a way of life, now just one influential person claims to accept religion and all of them here are running back under the canopy of religion.
Their religion needs the strength that comes from community and blind faith. They need the constant reassurance that they are right. The knowledge that comes from faith is very fleeting and shaky compared to the knowledge that comes from reason.
It's because of the nature of this faith knowledge that they need people reassuring them, they need community etc they are like blind men in a room seeking for what to hold on to in order to be sure that they are right. They are never fully confident that's why stories of pastors commiting sins deals a blow to their faiths.
As for freethinkers, we don't need to see other believing people in order to be sure. We believe because we followed a logical path to the truth. We don't need and depend on other peoples logic cause all brains can reason when they decide to.
Shaattaap! I remember Bill Maher when interviewing Obama said OUR TRIBE OF ATHEISTS! You guys are the ones who seek a community especially since you are a dying breed. Any lifeline is a lifeline for you lot.
MrTruth4real: Still looking for where mark said I am a Christian? I donno what Christians are happy about here? There are over 4000 religion in the world, mark cud be any of em.
Its enough proof of how butthurt atheists are about this and how angered it has made them and a classic example of how to do damage control when all is lost.
notjonbellion: Stephen Hawking: If we find the answer, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reasoning-for were would know the mind of God NL Christians: Stephen hawking acknowledges gods existence!!!!! Hahahahahohohohehehehehe Atheism is retarded!!!!! Stephen hawking wants to know the mind of god Stephen hawking is a thiest!!!!! Lmaoooo Skeptics: But that's not what he meant plus he's not a Christia......... NL christians: Lmaooo shut the fukk up atheism is dead apparently you became an atheist because of Stephen Hawking but all the athiest high priests have left camp!!!!! Hahahahahehehehohoheyhey now NL athiests are the last athiests on the planet!!!! Hahahahehehehohoho *convulses*
Your lenghty hahaha and hohoho is a sign of a man trying to forcefully snap himself out of depression. Here add this to it
winner01: Very real. Thank God, there are other sane alternatives to wikipedia and nairaland.
I'm trying to imagine facebook being run like nairaland, they fit ban creation of christian facebook groups.
Thats how terrible it can get as an atheist and anti-theist. Zuckerberg is showing Seun how to run a business but the guy no wan gree, A forum with less than 1.8m people yet we have too many laws to follow then when God gives laws for billions of people to follow he calls God wicked.
samijay8: he didn't even say I'm not an atheist. religion must be important to him cos his social media are used by so many religion. ask if he's a Muslim he may even say he loves it. ask about Buddhism and will say he supported it. he's an official atheist but not Ur Facebook post can allow him to be saying he support it. he must love everything no matter his religion.
On 16th October 1931, Azaña replaced Niceto Alcala Zamora as prime minister. With the support of the Socialist Party (PSOE) he attempted to introduce agrarian reform and regional autonomy. However, these measures were blocked in the Cortes.
The failed military coup led by José Sanjurjo on 10th August, 1932, rallied support for Azaña's government. It was now possible for him to get the Agrarian Reform Bill and the Catalan Statute passed by the Cortes. The November 1933 elections were a victory for the Catholic Party (CEDA). Azaña's party only won five seats and he was forced from power.
In April 1934 Azaña managed to unite his party with the Radical Socialist and the Gallegan Autonomists. Later that year there were violent demonstrations in Barcelona and Asturias. Azaña was accused of encouraging these disturbances and on 7th October he was arrested and interned on a ship in Barcelona Harbour. However, no evidence could be found against him and he was released on 18th December.
Azaña was also accused of supplying arms to the Asturias insurrectionaries. In March 1935, the matter was debated in the Cortes, where Azaña defended himself in a three-hour speech. On 6th April, 1935, the Tribunal of Constitutional Guarantees acquitted Azaña.
On 15th January 1936, Azaña helped to establish a coalition of parties on the political left to fight the national elections due to take place the following month. This included the Socialist Party (PSOE), Communist Party (PCE) and the Republican Union Party. In the elections held on 16th February 1936, 34.3 per cent of the vote went to the Popular Front, 33.2 per cent to the conservative parties and the rest to regional and centre parties. This gave the Popular Front 271 seats out of the 448 in the Cortes and Azaña was asked to form a new government.
The Popular Front government immediately upset the conservatives by releasing all left-wing political prisoners. The government also introduced agrarian reforms that penalized the landed aristocracy. Other measures included transferring right-wing military leaders such as Francisco Franco to posts outside Spain, outlawing the Falange Española and granting Catalonia political and administrative autonomy.
Manuel Azaña (1880-1940) a.k.a. Manuel Azaña Díaz Atheist Prime Minister of Spain, under whose leadership Spain's violently anti-religious Red Terror took place, which killed 38,000 to 72,344 people, among whom were members of the clergy.
Manuel Azaña was born into a prosperous family in Spain on 10th January 1880. Azaña was educated at the University of Saragossa and Madrid University. He qualified as a lawyer and in 1911 was employed in the Registry Office of the Ministry of Justice.
He became involved in politics and was a member of the Reformist Party. He was a candidate for the province of Toledo in 1918 and 1923 but lost on both occasions. In 1925 he founded his own political party, Accion Republicana.
Azaña wrote a large number of articles on law and politics and in 1920 began publishing the journal, La Pluma. He was also on the editorial board of España which was closed down by the government in 1924. Later he turned to writing plays and novels and in 1926 won the National Prize for Literature.
In 1931 Azaña joined with other liberal politicians that took part in the successful revolution that led to Alfonso XIII leaving the country. In the first government of the Second Republic Azaña became minister of war. He introduced a series of reforms that upset senior army officers.
Azaña believed that the Catholic Church was responsible for Spain's backwardness. He defended the elimination of special privileges for the Church on the grounds that Spain had ceased to be Catholic. Azaña was criticised by the Catholic Church for not doing more to stop the burning of religious buildings in May 1931. He controversially remarked that burning of "all the convents in Spain was not worth the life of a single Republican".
randomperson: Console myself?? U just speak without reason... The post was not even for your benefit. Anyways, the most generous and poorest president ever is an atheist so.... Try as u might, u can't demonize atheism and studies have shown that atheists are less predisposed to violence than Christians. https://www.theguardian.com/discussion/p/44j4d?page=19
Perhaps in your customary manner you did not read the banters from the beginning of the thread before jumping in. If you did you would realize that the OP is not trying to demonize atheism but creating a "use your tongue to count your teeth" Position of self reflection.
If you think the OP is trying to demonize atheism then perhaps there is a demon worth talking about if you are thinking about such as being the motive of the OP.
Desperately pushing the allegedly poorest president as a model atheist falls flat in your face because if he was a model atheist to you then you shouldnt be on here ranting and attacking Theists and their beliefs...Does your poorest president do that?
blessedvisky: Lol. Nice work 4everGod3. When I read Ali sina's book about Mohammed and Islam way back in 2014, I saw Islam for what it truly was and I realised the following
1) Mohammed was a charlatan all along. It's obvious from his "revelations" if you read the hadith and try and arrange his life chronologically. So a trader who married a sugar mummy was appeared to by jibril, an angel with 600 wings. Lol
When Mohammed tried getting his tribesmen to accept him as a prophet, the "satanic verses" were revealed conveniently, but when this didn't solve d problem, they were removed from the quran with Muhammad claiming it was 'Satan' that was responsible and Allah comforting him that there was no "no prophet before him that satin didn't try to corrupt also" How lovely.
When the JEWS didn't accept him as a prophet like the real prophets d Jews know well, he stopped praying towards Jerusalem and faced Mecca instead. Talk about Rejection. One would wonder why there is so much hate for Jews in the quran. That's one of the reasons why.
When our ever gallant scammer wanted to marry little Aisha, her father refused @ first, only for Muhammad to dream Sahih al-Bukhari 3895—Narrated Aishah that the Prophet said to her, “You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and someone said (to me), ‘This is your wife.’ When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, ‘If this is from Allah it will be accomplished.’” Can you imagine.?? He conveniently had a dream and that effectively shut up the father.
When Mohammed slept with the slave girl of his wife Hausa, she shouted and revealed this to the other wives though she promised not to coz he begged her. Then our ever benevolent and most merciful Allah revealed this to Muhammad
This is the text of the Surah Tahrim: 66:1-5.
1. O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allâh has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 2. Allâh has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allâh is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise. 3. And (remember) when the Prophet (SAW) disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his wives (Hafsah), so when she told it (to another i.e. 'Aishah), and Allâh made it known to him, he informed part thereof and left a part. Then when he told her (Hafsah) thereof, she said: "Who told you this?" He said: "The All-Knower, the All-Aware (Allâh) has told me". 4. If you two (wives of the Prophet SAW, namely 'Aishah and Hafsah turn in repentance to Allâh, (it will be better for you), your hearts are indeed so inclined (to oppose what the Prophet SAW likes), but if you help one another against him (Muhammad SAW), then verily, Allâh is his Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.), and Jibrael (Gabriel), and the righteous among the believers, and furthermore, the angels are his helpers. 5. It may be if he divorced you (all) that his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you, Muslims (who submit to Allâh), believers, obedient to Allâh, turning to Allâh in repentance, worshipping Allâh sincerely, fasting or emigrants (for Allâh's sake), previously married and virgins. “
Another case of manipulation
There is a story which particularly gets me worried. It's that of Safiyah. To cut long story short, Muhammad had killed her father, husband and relatives when he attacked their town. He saw this beautiful girl and took her into his tent on the night her husband, kinana, was killed by torture. He married her the next day. So much for a prophet of peace. Here is an article concerning this : Safiyah was seventeen and very beautiful when Muslims killed her father, husband and many of her relatives. In the same day the Prophet of Allah wanted to sleep with her. Here is the exact text of the story.
“Safiyah was born in Medinah. She belonged to the Jewish tribe of Banu 'I-Nadir. When this tribe was expelled from Medinah in the year 4 A.H, Huyaiy was one of those who settled in the fertile colony of Khaibar together with Kinana ibn al-Rabi' to whom Safiyah was married a little before the Muslims attacked Khaibar. She was then seventeen. She had formerly been the wife of Sallam ibn Mishkam, who divorced her. One mile from Khaibar. Here the Prophet married Safiyah. She was groomed and made-up for the Prophet by Umm Sulaim, the mother of Anas ibn Malik. They spent the night there. Abu Ayyub al-Ansari guarded the tent of the Prophet the whole night. When, in the early dawn, the Prophet saw Abu Ayyub strolling up and down, he asked him what he meant by this sentry-go; he replied: "I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, and till recently she was an unbeliever. I was really afraid for you on her account". The Prophet prayed for Abu Ayyub al-Ansari (Ibn Hisham, p. 766) Safiyah had requested the Prophet to wait till he had gone a stage away from Khaibar. "Why?" asked the Prophet. "I was afraid for you on account of the Jews who still happened to be near at Khaibar!"
There is much more I could type, but I I'll stop here for tonight.
Nothing can change the fact that Muhammed was a charlatan who had revelations that suited him and his blood thirsty followers. The same deception is still in Islam today, their ways never change.
A man who did ZERO miracles, signs and wonders, who was killed by ordinary poisoning (Allah couldn't protect him) , who was known to be a fighter, who made claims to doing things nobody saw him do (travelling from mecca to Jerusalem and back in one night comes to mind), who claimed things happened when they did not(eg Abraham and Ishmael building the kabba) who abrogated verses of his own revelations is praised as the Very best of Men in the same quran. I can't imagine what the worst of men would do then.
To be continued
Do not mind those deceived and deceptive people. They have nothing to say on this thread because they are in shock at the effrontery with which the truth is being dished out. The truth must be declared and we will do so.
Deicide: Am sorry Bro I won't Take myself So low to Your level And besides it's No News That U [size=18pt] Lack Home training [/size]
Are you my father? The way I see your comments here it paints the picture of someone who had to forcefully leave home bu hook or by crook so he can do as he pleases so home training must have been something you lacked and are unconsciously seeking. Go and sit your skinny butt down.
Anas09: When i read an ex-Muslim ( Wafa Sultan's book), "A God Which Hates" was when i knew the Muslims tactics.
She said, In a debate, they shout and screeches on top of their voices hoping to intimidate you. They haul insults at you. The leave the discourse and attack you personally, they get you upset and make you leaves the discussion, then they hail themselves by saying they beat you hands down.
She said, when they insult you, don't insult back, try not to get upset, they'll drop out and run. Am seeing it happening here. Muslims are the same all over the world. Cowards.
The Islamic spirit is a lying spirit.
Their tactic has always been primitive and easily discerned which was why I have kept my cool throughout the thread.
They wanted to derail but we no gree. They wanted to force us into useless banter we no gree they wanted to drag us down to the cesspit of insults and rage we no gree....See as this thread just dey like freshly iced fish...e just fine for eye. lol
mumels: Muslims sha. That's how one who called himself a Muslim blocked people from commenting on his page on Facebook even though he keeps posting thrash about the Bible and Christians. God save am say him disable posting. I for fall him hand.
I even sent a message to one on whatsapp,told him I love to have a civil discussion about why we think each persons belief is the perfect will of God for mankind 'lol' the guy no reply till as am typing now and he keeps posting on Facebook that a Christians ran after he bombarded him with questions. I just laugh liars and hyprocates...
When they lie they do so brazenly simply because their Quran encourages deception as long as its for the purpose of Islam its allowed...
Anas09: Am shocked that you can be this humble. The first time i noticed you, you were full of yourself, acting like you were there when Jibril was reciting the koran to muhammed. Now, you can't even open your mouth. Just so you know, now we know islam, much more than you do even..
Which Jibril recited which Quran to muhammad? Mtcheew!
FriendChoice: Am not saying you should not at all. Sometimes it becomes necessary. Like the time he lied on my behalf. I quickly respond. God bless you.
So I lied on your behalf? Sorry I do not lie on anyones behalf....In other words you wanted to lie but felt I helped you do it....You need to understand english before speaking it.
How could I have lied when all I did was copy and paste your own comment? You are the one who now lied by ABROGATING the former comment you made and adding the word "TODAY" to it.