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Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 8:31am On Feb 20, 2019
1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


I think it is on this verse that the doctrine of rapture as some form of mysterious disappearance is built. It is also on the erroneous interpretation of this verse that we see pictures of people flying skywards at the coming of Jesus. These are all wrong.

I think the way to understand this verse is to look at it in context with another verse that says the same thing

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


What Paul is saying is that the prince of the power of the air is the one working in the children of disobedience, it is the ruling power in the world right now. Paul is saying that when Jesus comes, he will displace this power and take control.

Just like we are taught in elementary chemistry, in an ionic reaction, the element that is higher up in the electropositive series will always displace the one that is lower down. For example, Sodium that is higher up will always displace calcium that is much lower down the series, in an ionic reaction.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 8:40am On Feb 20, 2019

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 9:42pm On Feb 20, 2019
Paul, Peter, Moses, Aaron, Abraham etc', are all here now...

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 8:18am On Feb 21, 2019
/ˈraptʃə/
noun

1.

a feeling of intense pleasure or joy.

synonyms:ecstasy, bliss, euphoria, elation, exaltation, joy, joyfulness, joyousness, cloud nine, seventh heaven, transport, rhapsody, enchantment, delight, exhilaration, happiness, pleasure,ravishment;

Malachi 4:2
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 8:43am On Feb 21, 2019
When I want a rapture, I just get high and have sex.

There's no dying or flying, but it does take my breath away, and sweeps her feet off the ground...
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by OpenYourEyes1: 1:04pm On Feb 21, 2019
Earth will most likely be destroyed with fire when Jesus comes. Good people will be raptured before the destruction.

Earth will be renewed after the destruction. A new land and city where Jesus will rule from will appear.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 1:17pm On Feb 21, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:
Earth will most likely be destroyed with fire when Jesus comes. Good people will be raptured before the destruction.

Earth will be renewed after the destruction. A new land and city where Jesus will rule from will appear.
And I guess you would have your own kingdoms, and people serving you, and glorious communion with God...

Basically, everything you couldn't achieve on earth.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 1:18pm On Feb 21, 2019
MrPresident1:
Paul, Peter, Moses, Aaron, Abraham etc', are all here now...
Na, they are dead and buried, their bones long rotten.

What's that got to do with you, though?
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 1:55pm On Feb 21, 2019
HappyPagan:

Na, they are dead and buried, their bones long rotten.

What's that got to due with you, though?

They are the firstfruits from the dead.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 1:56pm On Feb 21, 2019
MrPresident1:


They are the firstfruits from the dead.
Speak English. angry
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 2:03pm On Feb 21, 2019
There will be a displacement reaction, there will be a new heaven, right here on this earth, because the old heaven including all its dogs will be destroyed.

OpenYourEyes1:
Earth will most likely be destroyed with fire when Jesus comes. Good people will be raptured before the destruction.

Earth will be renewed after the destruction. A new land and city where Jesus will rule from will appear.
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 2:06pm On Feb 21, 2019
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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 2:13pm On Feb 21, 2019
HappyPagan:

Speak English. angry

God is not the God of the dead but of the living. These guys are all reincarnated and right on this earth now. There can be no recollection of the knowledge or events of past life except they are re-brought into the knowledge, or re-taught.

They have been re-taught, they fully understand, they are only now waiting for the apocalypse, when they will be glorified and recompensed for all their works. This is why Paul says, we shall not all sleep. Paul says he will be here when Christ returns...

1 Corinthians 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,


https://www.nairaland.com/2948312/paul-say-he-here-when
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by OpenYourEyes1: 2:13pm On Feb 21, 2019
MrPresident1:
There will be a displacement reaction, there will be a new heaven, right here on this earth, because the old heaven including all its dogs will be destroyed.




I believe new heaven and new earth are new earth and its clouds.
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 2:22pm On Feb 21, 2019
MrPresident1:

God is not the God of the dead but of the living.
Well, seeing as only the living can have faith, this isn't a particularly enlightening piece of information.

MrPresident1:

These guys are all reincarnated and right on this earth now.
Have they died at any point? Death's a required qualification for death, you know.

When they die, does God desert them? Or do they just close their eyes and wake up in a new womb?

MrPresident1:

There can be no recollection of the knowledge or events of past life except they are re-brought into the knowledge, or re-taught.

When power goes at night, I see shadows around my premises. They make funny shapes, showing me interesting sides of the objects in my room.

It is similar to staring into the past... Sometimes, you see things that were never really there.. Your mind fills in the gap wit whatever crap it finds stored within you.


MrPresident1:


..This is why Paul says, we shall not all sleep. Paul says he will be here when Christ returns...

1 Corinthians 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Lol grow up big man. Paul lied. He is dead and long rotten..drop your cross and breath in new life. Life should not be lived bowing down to dead Jewish men.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 2:22pm On Feb 21, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


I believe new heaven and new earth are new earth and its clouds.

Have you been to Dubai? I hear God goes there for inspiration.
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 2:24pm On Feb 21, 2019
HappyPagan:

Well, seeing as only the living can have faith, this isn't a particularly enlightening piece of information.


Have they died at any point? Death's a required qualification for death, you know.

When they die, does God desert them? Or do they just close their eyes and wake up in a new womb?


When power goes at night, I see shadows around my premises. They make funny shapes, showing me interesting sides of the objects in my room.

It is similar to staring into the past... Sometimes, you see things that were never really there.. Your mind fills in the gap wit whatever crap it finds stored within you.



Lol grow up big man. Paul lied. He is dead and long rotten..drop your cross and breath in new life. Life should not be lived bowing down to dead Jewish men.

Point made.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by OpenYourEyes1: 2:24pm On Feb 21, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


I believe new heaven and new earth are new earth and its clouds.

The new Earth and its clouds will exist in third heaven. Third Heaven is where GOD resides
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by OpenYourEyes1: 2:28pm On Feb 21, 2019
HappyPagan:


Have you been to Dubai? I hear God goes there for inspiration.

Humans cities are made of useless materials that can easily be destroyed or melted by fire.
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 3:14pm On Feb 21, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


Humans cities are made of useless materials that can easily be destroyed or melted by fire.
Well, we have got fire-proof material. I bet heaven do not have that.
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by Ubenedictus(m): 6:04pm On Feb 21, 2019
MrPresident1:
Paul, Peter, Moses, Aaron, Abraham etc', are all here now...
Hmm, you may have a point
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 10:48pm On Feb 21, 2019
Ubenedictus:
Hmm, you may have a point

How do you mean?
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 11:47pm On Feb 24, 2019
Rapture means joy. Our joy at the coming of our salvation

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by oaroloye(m): 9:33am On Feb 25, 2019
MISHIGAS!

MrPresident1:


1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


I think it is on this verse that the doctrine of rapture as some form of mysterious disappearance is built. It is also on the erroneous interpretation of this verse that we see pictures of people flying skywards at the coming of Jesus. These are all wrong.


YOUR FIRST MISTAKE IS YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHO IT IS WHO IS AUTHORIZED TO TEACH THE CHURCH.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master, even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell
than yourselves."

ONLY LORD YESHUA IS AUTHORIZED TO TEACH THE CHURCH.

His Disciples had ONE JOB- that was to teach the World the things that he had taught them.

. MATTHEW 24:14.

14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall The End come."

. MATTHEW 24:35.

35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away,
but my Words shall not pass away."


. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

18. And Jesus came
and Spake unto them,
saying,

"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of The Father,
and of The Son, and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World."
Amen.

THEY BETRAYED THEIR LORD, SO THAT THEY COULD SEIZE POWER FOR THEMSELVES, AND RUN CHRISTIANITY THE WAY THEY WANTED.

The thought that they could do that- since he had bowed down to them once.

No one questioned it, because that was what was expected of a normal School.

No one knew that Lord Yeshua operated counter-intuitively, because the Disciples weren't telling anyone the REAL Teachings.

The Followers who knew too much- like STEPHEN- were betrayed to the SANHEDRIN, and allowed to be executed.

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought
a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every Synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

PAUL TRIED TO CHANGE THE GOSPEL, AND MAKE IT ABOUT BELIEVING THAT YESHUA ROSE FROM THE DEAD, AND CALLING HIM "LORD, LORD."

But that is not THE GOSPEL.

SALVATION DEPENDS ON KNOWING AND KEEPING LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets."
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fuit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one that heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.

THESE TEACHINGS WERE NOT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER CEPHAS AND PAUL HAD DIED.

People may have realized that they didn't have to let them hold the Church back- but the damage was already done.

MrPresident1:


I think the way to understand this verse is to look at it in context with another verse that says the same thing

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


What Paul is saying is that the prince of the power of the air is the one working in the children of disobedience, it is the ruling power in the world right now. Paul is saying that when Jesus comes, he will displace this power and take control.


. PSALM 110:1.

THE LORD said unto my Lord,

"Sit thou at my Right Hand,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

IF YOU KNEW THE SCRIPTURES- AS A CHRISTIAN WOULD- YOU WOULD KNOW THAT LORD YESHUA CANNOT RETURN UNTIL HIS ENEMIES HAVE BEEN SUBDUED- AS PER THE FIRST COMMANDMENT:

. GENESIS 1:26-28.

26. And God said,
"Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every Creeping Thing
that Creepeth upon the Earth.
27. So God created Man in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God said unto them,
"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

THAT IS NOT HIS JOB TO DO- IT IS THE JOB OF HIS DISCIPLES TO DO!

. LUKE 10:16-24.

16. "He that heareth you heareth me;
and he that despiseth you despiseth me;
and he that despiseth me
despiseth Him that sent me."
17. And the seventy returned again with joy,
saying,

"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us
through thy Name."

18. And he said unto them,

"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice,
because your Names are written in Heaven."

21. In that Hour
Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and said,

"I thank Thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father;
for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who The Son is,
but The Father;
and Who The Father is,
but The Son,
and he to whom The Son
will reveal him."

23. And he turned him unto his Disciples,
and said privately,

"Blessed are the eyes
which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I Tell you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "


The Oyinbos thought that Christianity should consist of weakling Christians being chased around by the Mighty Devil and his Minions, because that is the Legacy Lord Yeshua's Disciples left behind.

It was not supposed to be like that- any more than ADAM AND EVE were supposed to be subject to THE SERPENT.

THAT was the CHOICE Adam and Eve MADE.

God did not make It for them- but He had to abide by It.

MrPresident1:


Just like we are taught in elementary chemistry, in an ionic reaction, the element that is higher up in the electropositive series will always displace the one that is lower down. For example, Sodium that is higher up will always displace calcium that is much lower down the series, in an ionic reaction.


. DEUTERONOMY 22:9-11.

9. Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds:
lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown,
and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
10. Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
11. Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.


YOU ARE MISTAKEN IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES USING THE EARTHLY PRINCIPLES INADEQUATELY.

THE GOSPEL changes our ability to dominate the Earth and everything in It.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MrPresident1: 11:04pm On Feb 25, 2019
Philippians 1:9-11 
9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.
11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.


There is no law against the fruits of righteousness
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by budaatum: 7:38pm On Feb 27, 2019
Read the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ as inspired by the Holy Spirit!

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



YOUR FIRST MISTAKE IS YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHO IT IS WHO IS AUTHORIZED TO TEACH THE CHURCH.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master, even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell
than yourselves."

ONLY LORD YESHUA IS AUTHORIZED TO TEACH THE CHURCH.

His Disciples had ONE JOB- that was to teach the World the things that he had taught them.

. MATTHEW 24:14.

14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall The End come."

. MATTHEW 24:35.

35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away,
but my Words shall not pass away."


. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

18. And Jesus came
and Spake unto them,
saying,

"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of The Father,
and of The Son, and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World."
Amen.

THEY BETRAYED THEIR LORD, SO THAT THEY COULD SEIZE POWER FOR THEMSELVES, AND RUN CHRISTIANITY THE WAY THEY WANTED.

The thought that they could do that- since he had bowed down to them once.

No one questioned it, because that was what was expected of a normal School.

No one knew that Lord Yeshua operated counter-intuitively, because the Disciples weren't telling anyone the REAL Teachings.

The Followers who knew too much- like STEPHEN- were betrayed to the SANHEDRIN, and allowed to be executed.

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought
a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every Synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

PAUL TRIED TO CHANGE THE GOSPEL, AND MAKE IT ABOUT BELIEVING THAT YESHUA ROSE FROM THE DEAD, AND CALLING HIM "LORD, LORD."

But that is not THE GOSPEL.

SALVATION DEPENDS ON KNOWING AND KEEPING LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets."
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fuit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one that heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.

THESE TEACHINGS WERE NOT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER CEPHAS AND PAUL HAD DIED.

People may have realized that they didn't have to let them hold the Church back- but the damage was already done.



. PSALM 110:1.

THE LORD said unto my Lord,

"Sit thou at my Right Hand,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

IF YOU KNEW THE SCRIPTURES- AS A CHRISTIAN WOULD- YOU WOULD KNOW THAT LORD YESHUA CANNOT RETURN UNTIL HIS ENEMIES HAVE BEEN SUBDUED- AS PER THE FIRST COMMANDMENT:

. GENESIS 1:26-28.

26. And God said,
"Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every Creeping Thing
that Creepeth upon the Earth.
27. So God created Man in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God said unto them,
"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

THAT IS NOT HIS JOB TO DO- IT IS THE JOB OF HIS DISCIPLES TO DO!

. LUKE 10:16-24.

16. "He that heareth you heareth me;
and he that despiseth you despiseth me;
and he that despiseth me
despiseth Him that sent me."
17. And the seventy returned again with joy,
saying,

"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us
through thy Name."

18. And he said unto them,

"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice,
because your Names are written in Heaven."

21. In that Hour
Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and said,

"I thank Thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father;
for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who The Son is,
but The Father;
and Who The Father is,
but The Son,
and he to whom The Son
will reveal him."

23. And he turned him unto his Disciples,
and said privately,

"Blessed are the eyes
which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I Tell you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "


The Oyinbos thought that Christianity should consist of weakling Christians being chased around by the Mighty Devil and his Minions, because that is the Legacy Lord Yeshua's Disciples left behind.

It was not supposed to be like that- any more than ADAM AND EVE were supposed to be subject to THE SERPENT.

THAT was the CHOICE Adam and Eve MADE.

God did not make It for them- but He had to abide by It.



. DEUTERONOMY 22:9-11.

9. Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds:
lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown,
and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
10. Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
11. Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.


YOU ARE MISTAKEN IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES USING THE EARTHLY PRINCIPLES INADEQUATELY.

THE GOSPEL changes our ability to dominate the Earth and everything in It.
oaroloye, thank you.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MuttleyLaff: 8:45pm On Feb 27, 2019
HappyPagan:
When I want a rapture, I just get high and have sex.

There's no dying or flying, but it does take my breath away, and sweeps her feet off the ground...
There is dying and flying when you have sex and/or make love. Every virile man experiences "la petite mort", that is "the little death", in French, for you. I know I do have these moments of little death when I am coming, with my eyes clasped shut in ecstasy and feeling like I am on cloud nine, riding and flying on it. Hmm, what a sweet, sweet, good, good feeling.

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 9:22pm On Feb 27, 2019
too many crase people on this section..

grin grin grin

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MuttleyLaff: 8:49am On Feb 28, 2019
HappyPagan:
too many crase people on this section..

grin grin grin

Dont you have earth like eruptive shattering and earth moving moments when you come ni, or you just look tanda gidingba like statue or wood ni?

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 9:05am On Feb 28, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Dont you have earth like eruptive shattering and earth moving moments when you come ni, or you just look tanda gidingba like statue or wood ni?
Once felt my soul leave my body and tap my ass.. it was that good...
Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by MuttleyLaff: 3:25pm On Feb 28, 2019
HappyPagan:
Once felt my soul leave my body and tap my ass.. it was that good...
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt you because if you are a gay person or a heterosexual, you would feel your soul leave your body, tapping on your arse and feel good about it, if or when your G-sp0t is physically stimulated enough internally via the arse

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Re: Rapture: No One Is Flying Or Disappearing To Anywhere by HappyPagan: 3:30pm On Feb 28, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt you because if you are a gay person or a heterosexual, you would feel your soul leave your body, tapping on your arse and feel good about it, if or when your G-sp0t is physically stimulated enough internally via the arse
lmfao....

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