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If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 8:50am On Mar 01, 2019 |
As someone that serves as a party agent and had the opportunity of pursuing the result to Local government level, I believe the chances of rigging is minimal. I am not saying that the election was on a 100; but only only trying to point out that the election was not rigged 'Massively'. Change My Mind. Edit 1: Please this has nothing to do with affiliation to any party, as such let's drop that sentiment outside. Just a thorough analysis of how the election might be rigged is what I am after. Edit 2: From the reply so far I have to say that most people are not aware of the process to which their vote gets to Abuja. As such voters education should be brought to everybody. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Lansin: 8:56am On Mar 01, 2019 |
We all have to wait for Atiku's cctv (body cam) to give a better explanation. Observers have submitted their inference. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by enemybulldozer(m): 9:00am On Mar 01, 2019 |
What are you saying?? Didn't you see the videos and pictures online or were you managing you data?? 3 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 9:00am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Lansin:But don't you think if he had them, he would have uploaded at least one of such video on YouTube to ignite support from his supporters. What do you think? 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by senatordave1(m): 9:07am On Mar 01, 2019 |
enemybulldozer:Forget the videos,those are isolated cases and very few.there 120k polling units,do you have videos from 1000 polling units? From my own experience in my ward,buhari had 21 to 57 for atiku in my polling unit.out of 14 units in my ward in calabar buhari won 3 and lost 11.i followed them to the ward collation point,nothing changed in the presidential tabulation but might have changed in the legislative angle.i also followed them to the lga collation,same thing happened.the only places where rigging happened was in the rural areas where top party chieftains came from.both parties were involved. 5 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Hofbrauhaus(m): 9:11am On Mar 01, 2019 |
You would hear from Atiku in court. The evidences will be presented to a court of competent jurisdiction and the mandate stolen by a thief would be returned to the owner. Thank you. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by blackmantis: 9:25am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Both party rigged but APC had an upper hand. Some methods used were 1) Late opening of polls in opositon controlled areas. Is it not curious that in the far north polls opened very early that enabled the president to vote as early as 8:00am but in the southern part of the country including the FCT most polls opened very late. Some as late as 12noon. And voting went on in some cases into the night and most of these were later cancelled Strategy :tire them out 2) Thugs and security agents: Thugs were used to intimidate and scare voters in areas were opositon was dominant and when this does not succeed to start a fight and cause such confusion to lead to the cancellation of votes in such polling units. security agents were also used to intimidate uncompromising electoral officials. Strategy: scare them and cause confusion 3) Vote buying. Yes vote buying played a part esp by the opposition. A community would be promised cash if they delivered thier votes. The cash was shared after the results were announced . Strategy: buy them 3) Card Reader. Still researching on this ...... But the opposition found out late that the owner of the company who owns this company is not just a card carrying member of the ruling party but also a contestant. It's not unlikely that manipulations would not have occured. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by baliyubla: 9:26am On Mar 01, 2019 |
No Atikulator should say a thing. We shall meet the electoral thieves in court and bombard them riggers with high end facts. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by enemybulldozer(m): 9:26am On Mar 01, 2019 |
senatordave1:People like you is just the reason why this country will remain in backwardness forever. You people are very much easy to deceive honestly. First, the CJN was removed and up till now nobody has said or do anything about it, don't you know that the reason why they removed the CJN is because they know they're going to rig the Election?? Secondly, you saw APC thugs and soldiers in most of the polling units working in favour of APC and you still have the audacity to tell I should forget the videos?? 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 9:28am On Mar 01, 2019 |
senatordave1:I believe when someone follow the steps: polling unit, Ward and down to the local government you would appreciate how there was some credibility to the election. Remember all the party agents(PDP, APC and others) have to sign at each level mentioned above. I have to agree with you on the rural area aspect, hence why I said it was minimal and also there is a limit to that; because the rigging would be limited to the accredited voters in the rural areas. Thats one of main reason that minimize bloated figures. That's why I don't support one of Atiku demands that suggested accreditation of voters a day before the election, I think that would lead to massive rigging. What do you think? 3 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by senatordave1(m): 9:46am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Elthugnificent:I also agree.this election was better than that of 2015,votes counted more.rigging was limited mostly at the rural areas pus because of obvious reasons.the best thing for us right now is to go full blown electronic or sign the electoral law which will make the card reader usage a must. 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 9:49am On Mar 01, 2019 |
[center][/center] blackmantis:You made some solid point I most commend you for that, but let's take them one at a time. 1) late opening of polls was not only subjected to opposition areas please, Atiku, Saraki and other big politicians voted very early. It is the Nigeria way. I was at my as early as 7 to witness the distribution of materials, they started sharing it around 8:30am but the materials get to my polling unit around 10am and from the Ward to my my polling unit is just 10 minutes walk. The reason for the delay is because the materials are been distributed base on polling unit, they start with 001 and my polling unit is 010. When I get to my area people were already angry(you won't blame them) but if only they know the procedure. Yes they should have started the distribution early. 2) The issue of security agents and thugs, well I have to agree with you on that. But we all know it wasn't ramparts, we didn't experience such here though and I believe neither did you; it was just few places. 3) vote buying: you have to acknowledge that this is the only election in Nigeria history where we are yet to see any video proof or people coming online to claim that either PDP or APC agent where at a polling unit distributing cash. We all know that's synonymous with PDP but I don't want to partisans in my write up. But the issue of vote is at it's minimal in this election. 4) On the issue of card reader, well if you are done with your research I would definitely want to read about it, because I believe that would be effective for Mass rigging Thanks for your contribution, if there is any misconception from my write up that you would like to clear I am open to hear them. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 9:50am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Hofbrauhaus:Lol, I really hope the hearing would be aired. Would have really like to watch it. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by senatordave1(m): 9:52am On Mar 01, 2019 |
enemybulldozer:Oga i ask again,how many videos do you have? So a few videos captured what happened in the nation,are you this dumb? So the security agencies were present at all polling units abi ? If you cancel elections in the polling units your videos captured,would it make atiku the winner ? So you expect an election to be 100%.my friend,stop crying more than atiku.there was rigging quite alright but it wasn't enough to alter the final results.the amount of votes buhari got in the south should tell you that he defeated your master. 3 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by teufelein(f): 9:54am On Mar 01, 2019 |
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Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Kyase(m): 9:56am On Mar 01, 2019 |
baliyubla:Lol some people think court will just accept some random videos as evidence Anybody can make such videos... I dare atiku to go to court, before Monday or else... 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 9:56am On Mar 01, 2019 |
enemybulldozer:Please let's not make this a party thing, if video were sufficient the international observers and the international community wouldn't have said otherwise. Please answer this, after casting your vote at your polling unit did you wait for it to be counted and possibly follow the result to the Ward? If not do to you know the procedure/steps that are taken once the vote you cast left your polling unit? 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Charmingrascal(m): 10:04am On Mar 01, 2019 |
They have nothing to show They will wail for the next four years and we are use to them |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by 9jabull: 10:10am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Most of the rigging was done in the collation centers, the once they can't rig they will scatter all the materials so that the votes won't count. Even a foreigner was caught in a video helping them to add up figures. Political tugs intimate, threatened, burn INEC materials in opposition strong hold is part of rigging so that their votes will be canceled. Thumb printing of ballot papers was the order of the day especially in the north, Card reader was not used in some northern states, but in the east they ensure use of card reader which disenfranchised many people. Rigging comes in many ways. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 10:18am On Mar 01, 2019 |
senatordave1:You are right, electronic voting should be next step towards finally ending rigging in Nigeria. They opposition can the opportunity to push the bill since most of their colleagues are claiming rigging. |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 10:22am On Mar 01, 2019 |
9jabull:I agree with the fact that rigging comes in many ways, but I am more interested in your first claim because that's where a massive form of rigging could be achieve. You said most of the rigging was done in the collation center. At what level was that achieve; ward, LG or state level? 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Hofbrauhaus(m): 10:43am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Elthugnificent: It's not a secret hearing na..You can always make yourself available in court. |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 10:47am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Charmingrascal:I really wish they have, because it would take a Mastermind to massively rigged the just concluded election. Most people that keep shouting rigging have no Idea what happen once they cast their vote. They don't ask questions or do a follow-up and know how their vote gets to Abuja. If they had done the above, they would know that to rigging this election massively won't be easy at all. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 10:49am On Mar 01, 2019 |
Hofbrauhaus:Lol, I would be busy by then. On a serious note, after casting your vote at the polling unit do you know how it get to Abuja? I mean the steps. |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Mrbaz1: 11:00am On Mar 01, 2019 |
senatordave1:respect man 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 12:32pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
senatordave1:You can't be more right, I only wish people could drop their party affiliation and see the election process for what it really was. Some them that are angry with the international observers have no idea what happens to their vote immediately it leaves their polling unit. I believe voters education should be introduced to educate people on how vote are actually counted, that would surely give hope to our democracy. |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 12:47pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
After going through comments from most social Medias and forum (nairaland). I have to conclude that most people don't know how their vote gets to Abuja, if you do prove me otherwise and tell me the point you believe you believe the election was successfully rigged. |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by enemybulldozer(m): 5:06pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
senatordave1:Am not surprised at the way you reason, a typical black man will always reason with his anus instead of his brain, just listen to your dumb self. since you have admitted that there was a kind of rigging, what's the essence of rigging the election if your god buhari and his political goons were sure they will win?? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Elthugnificent(m): 12:11am On Mar 02, 2019 |
enemybulldozer:The word is Massive. Are you now saying that PDP did not rigged at all? That's part of the reason why I suggested non partisanship from this thread to encourage open mindedness. 1 Like |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by enemybulldozer(m): 8:06am On Mar 02, 2019 |
Elthugnificent:Security agents and APC thugs were everywhere is SE/SS working in favour of APC and you're telling me that's not massive rigging. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by Mizwisdom(f): 8:16am On Mar 02, 2019 |
blackmantis: What of ballot box burning, bullying of voters by gangs of thugs loyal to certain parties, even INEC officials destroying votes for their preferred candidates/parties, collation room malpractices, under aged voters, not issuing PVCs to voters from opposition strong hold, deceiving people to do manual voting because card readers aren't functioning knowing that their votes will definitely be cancelled |
Re: If You Believe The Election Was Rigged Massively, Can You Explain How It Was Don by DMerciful(m): 8:42am On Mar 02, 2019 |
The fact that the president refused accent to the electoral bill that would have made card readers mandatory and electronic transmission possible shows intent to rig. The fact that he removed the CJN shortly before election shows intent to sway a possible tribunal judgement in his favour. The fact that he ordered the military to shoot ballot box snatchers and non was caught when they were snatching in opposition areas shows intent to rig. DD he eventually rig? Absolutely! 1 Like |
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