ferhyntorlah:


Same line of thought here. Why sell a product without informing the buyers of the added features and getting the pilots trained on how to use the features?

If true, they goofed BIG TIME!!!

Originalsly:


I hear you...but that's not good. When there is a flaw in the design or component of an automobile that may cause an accident..what do they do?.... recall the vehicles and have the component replaced with a safe one. If the plane were an Airbus... the very safety people would ground all the planes and fine Airbus billions on the grounds that they knew of the problem and yet decided to gamble with the lives of passengers.
Two things I see playing out here... Protecting US Corporations..... and arrogance ... arrogance by both the FAA and Boeng.

MajorJeffery:
They do but if you know what it means to have a routine in the cockpit, you won't blame pilots either. Even after long hours of training, pilots still make the mistake again. I can list a lot of differences that will shock you. Also, pilots of today are too lazy that they rely on auto pilot earlier than required.

prince3009:
I believe the issue of this 737 Max 8 is partly a factory error, maintenance and pilot technique!

Since some American airlines have refused to remove them from their fleet and are confidence of their "safety and airworthiness", then I guess the previous crashes involving Indonesia, China and now Ethiopia were due to carelessness on the part of the airline servicing crew! QED!!

prince3009:


You problem is reading without comprehension! The two American carriers have technical maintenance crew whose working policies are of international standards. The countries whose air carriers experienced crashes are third world and developing countries whose safety standards are shabby and epileptic!

Indonesia for the past 4 years have been having series of air mishaps! Are all the aircrafts involved in the air accidents only the 737 Max 8 model?

Have the American Carriers who said the aircrafts are on their fleet and are not ready to ground them had any air mishap involving the 737-8 Max model before?

Answer the questions above before you start blabbing about "mental slavery".

I am sure that when they tell people like you to patronize Innoson, you will rather choose to buy Camry Muscle and the issue of "mental slavery" won't register by then.

charliboy654:

I tire for some people, them just use America as standard, because FAA has not ban max 8, then there's nothing wrong with the plane.

Originalsly:


I hear you...but that's not good. When there is a flaw in the design or component of an automobile that may cause an accident..what do they do?.... recall the vehicles and have the component replaced with a safe one. If the plane were an Airbus... the very safety people would ground all the planes and fine Airbus billions on the grounds that they knew of the problem and yet decided to gamble with the lives of passengers.
Two things I see playing out here... Protecting US Corporations..... and arrogance ... arrogance by both the FAA and Boeng.[b][/b]

Iziquiel:

Anu mpama, I guess the UK that grounded the Max 8 and the EU that has banned it from flying in the Euro Zone airspace have recoded any plane crash in recent years. There's nothing In your first comment that didn't point to the fact that, you suffer from mental slavery. Even Sen Ted Cruz who is the chairman of the Senate committee on Aviation said, the 737 Max 8 should be grounded and you're on Nairaland typing poo. If you are not suffering from mental slavery you would have seen In the article where someone said that those Carriers that refused to ground their Max 8 fleets are doing so for economic reasons. Go reformat your brain so you would be free from mental slavery.

KingAzubuike:
Boeing is a very complex and dangerous aircraft to fly compared to cesenna and the likes. To prevent future disastrous occurrence like this, I suggest airports and aviation authorities around the world should make commercial airliners fly on cesennas only which usually is safer and can accommodate a maximum of 4 passengers. Even if na Australia or new Zealand you dey go they will first go and drop four passengers first before they come back to carry another four. That's my own opinion.

Edagentle:
That's quite long to read, someone read and summarize abeg.

naptu2:



https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2019/03/12/boeing-737-max-8-pilots-complained-feds-months-suspected-safety-flaw

Iziquiel:

Anu mpama, I guess China , the UK that grounded the Max 8 and the EU which has Germany, France, Switzerland etc that has banned it from flying in the Euro Zone airspace have recoded any plane crash in recent years and are Third World Countries . There's nothing In your first comment that didn't point to the fact that, you suffer from mental slavery. Even Sen Ted Cruz who is the chairman of the Senate committee on Aviation said, the 737 Max 8 should be grounded and you're on Nairaland typing poo. If you are not suffering from mental slavery you would have seen In the article where someone said that those Carriers that refused to ground their Max 8 fleets are doing so for economic reasons. Go reformat your brain so you would be free from mental slavery.

Reference:
Max 8 obviously has a auto command bug but for the life of me.... just like others just turn the damn autopilot off when it begins to malfunction.

These two incidents bring to the fore two very important things, one of which president trump aluded to:

It appears the more sophisticated commercial aircraft are the less airlines are willing to project airmanship. In the end it takes a pilot to fly an aircraft. Technology will never be fool proof. Pilots cannot afford to lower their guards and their competencies simply because computers are getting better. The calculator should never replace the knowledge of simple arithmentic when lives are at stake. This leads to the second...

I donot want to sound condescending but third world countries should take it easy with the uptake of new technologies. From the report it is clear this problem has been raging for some time and has been handled safely in Europe and America. Do I suppose the crews of Indonesian Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines were simply out of their depths when it came to raw, pure airmanship. What is so hard in disengaging a faulty device. Could it be that they were just to unfamiliar with the aircraft and flight situational awreness they could not troubleshoot in time.

Airmanship is the watchword here. When you get on an aircraft you better hope your Captain is not only competent but is skillful... and familiar with technology his country or continent has no hope of attaining.

qualityovenbake:
just watched the video of the passenger praying in the Ethiopian air crash. Am scared right now.

sexyking1:
Kai see how Boeing 737 carrier end!
Prayers; my Father my Father any incidents or accident, directly or indirectly planned to end my carrier must be destroyed in Jesus Name! Amen

prince3009:


If you are using a HP, Dell instead of Zinox, wear or own a pair of jeans and t-shirt, jacket, instead of putting on native wear, speak English instead of your native tongue in formal settings... etc and you are talking to me about mental slavery, then you are a big fool! Ewu ofia!!

prince3009:
I believe the issue of this 737 Max 8 is partly a factory error, maintenance and pilot technique!

Since some American airlines have refused to remove them from their fleet and are confidence of their "safety and airworthiness", then I guess the previous crashes involving Indonesia, China and now Ethiopia were due to carelessness on the part of the airline servicing crew! QED!!

prince3009:
I believe the issue of this 737 Max 8 is partly a factory error, maintenance and pilot technique!

Since some American airlines have refused to remove them from their fleet and are confidence of their "safety and airworthiness", then I guess the previous crashes involving Indonesia, China and now Ethiopia were due to carelessness on the part of the airline servicing crew! QED

MrHighSea:
Seconded

Reference:
Max 8 obviously has a auto command bug but for the life of me.... just like others just turn the damn autopilot off when it begins to malfunction.

These two incidents bring to the fore two very important things, one of which president trump aluded to:

It appears the more sophisticated commercial aircraft are the less airlines are willing to project airmanship. In the end it takes a pilot to fly an aircraft. Technology will never be fool proof. Pilots cannot afford to lower their guards and their competencies simply because computers are getting better. The calculator should never replace the knowledge of simple arithmentic when lives are at stake. This leads to the second...

I donot want to sound condescending but third world countries should take it easy with the uptake of new technologies. From the report it is clear this problem has been raging for some time and has been handled safely in Europe and America. Do I suppose the crews of Indonesian Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines were simply out of their depths when it came to raw, pure airmanship. What is so hard in disengaging a faulty device. Could it be that they were just to unfamiliar with the aircraft and flight situational awreness they could not troubleshoot in time.

Airmanship is the watchword here. When you get on an aircraft you better hope your Captain is not only competent but is skillful... and familiar with technology his country or continent has no hope of attaining.

prince3009:
I believe the issue of this 737 Max 8 is partly a factory error, maintenance and pilot technique!

Since some American airlines have refused to remove them from their fleet and are confidence of their "safety and airworthiness", then I guess the previous crashes involving Indonesia, China and now Ethiopia were due to carelessness on the part of the airline servicing crew! QED!!

martineverest:
useless company..they have been manufacturing killer planes with poor airworthiness.thank God the European union,Asians and African countries are grounding the planes...Boeing market share will plunge


time for Airbus sales to soar

Focusmind:
I pity Boeing - their market shares are falling like pack of cards at the New York Exchange since the Ethiopian airline crash. Countries are offloading the plane at an alarming proportion. The people I pity are those that have pre-paid and placed huge orders. No refund after payment is always a clause in such contract.

Boeing fierce rivals, Airbus and Bombardier will be smiling to the bank now.

lexy2014:


Did u come 2 this conclusion based on ur findings or based on guess work?

TheAlchemist:
No pilots from the First world nation is yet to crash a 737 max, could the suspect be the pilots from the 3rd world nation! Got this line of thought from another blog.

prince3009:


Based on a snippet in the article itself

prince3009:
I believe the issue of this 737 Max 8 is partly a factory error, maintenance and pilot technique!

Since some American airlines have refused to remove them from their fleet and are confidence of their "safety and airworthiness", then I guess the previous crashes involving Indonesia, China and now Ethiopia were due to carelessness on the part of the airline servicing crew! QED!!

ZUBY77:


Ignorant Illiterate.
You don't have enough sense to comment to every topic you see.

prince3009:
I believe the issue of this 737 Max 8 is partly a factory error, maintenance and pilot technique!

Since some American airlines have refused to remove them from their fleet and are confidence of their "safety and airworthiness", then I guess the previous crashes involving Indonesia, China and now Ethiopia were due to carelessness on the part of the airline servicing crew! QED!!

Very wrong. The company did not communicate the peculiarities of a new tech appropriately. Some US pilots quickly switched to manual during climb after taking off and it worked for them but foreign pilots who are distant from industry word of mouth about this tendency did not know enough to go off auto.