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Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by udezue(m): 8:45pm On Sep 17, 2010
Dede1:

If what happened to Ndigbo in particular and easterners in general during 1966 pogrom is set upon your entire generation and the generation to come and you utter a cough may the cause be upon you and your entire lineage.

Ojukwu did not allow the Ndigbo to have free reign on the northerners in eastern region. If had allowed Ndigbo a second of revenge, the junkies such Musa Yar adua would not have lived to fight the war. Yet Gowon and Nigeria foisted a war of attrition on eastern Nigeria.

This is where I get mad at Ojukwu and Easterners. If I were in his shoe I would have made it a sport and rewarded them everyone to slaughter them equally. Northerners are so blood thirsty and murderous they can't be treated with kid gloves. The same way they treat you is the same way you should treat them and even worse.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 9:11pm On Sep 17, 2010
udezue:

This is where I get mad at Ojukwu and Easterners. If I were in his shoe I would have made it a sport and rewarded them everyone to slaughter them equally. Northerners are so blood thirsty and murderous they can't be treated with kid gloves. The same way they treat you is the same way you should treat them and even worse.

The innate inability to harm innocent people remains Igboman's weakest attribute. Virtually every other tribe in Nigeria can do that except the Igbo. Have you noticed that whenever a Hausaman is fighting with a non Hausa, if a second Hausaman is passing by, he joins the fight IMMEDIATELY on his brothers side without even asking any questions?
If you want to understand the essence of this behavior more, go to the animals channel on cable TV and take a close look at how lions hunt.

They can kill ANY animal in the jungle. I've seen them take down elephants, hippos, crocodiles, giant snakes, just name any animal. Watch how they do it.  In that hunt, there are no males or females; every member of the lion pack joins the fray without asking questions.
That is what make them the most powerful beasts in the jungle.

Now, revert to Igbo. Good luck with convincing your friend (never mind a stranger undecided) to help you deal with a person (even if that person's tribe is the biggest anti Igbo tribe on earth undecided).

That is the only reason why I don't do the "Igbo enwe eze" thing. I simply don't because I don't see how it helps us to survive in the jungle that is Nigeria. It may have helped us in the olden days when we were protected by the jungle, but it cannot work today. Simple. We need to act together, without asking questions. If a lion sits out a hunt, do you think the rest of the pack will allow him to eat the game? HELL NO!

So, Ojukwu acted like a typical Igbo man at the time. "Oh these are innocent people, and they have nothing to do with the kiling of Igbos in the north". But, one would be like "duh" but Igbos being killed in the north are innocents!

So, you may have to adopt my philosophy of "fight first, ask questions later".
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by mechris: 9:20pm On Sep 17, 2010
Are the younger generation or 'generators' any better, are we not all waiting in the wings for our own opportunity to perpetuate the looting cycle? Ask mr. Bankole  as a younger generation speaker.The did is already done and the saga will continue.Gowon was a clueless and visionless leader who contributed vigorously to the present pitiable state called nigeria, how come he is just realising that generals serving or retired has nothing to offer nigerians!!
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by udezue(m): 9:23pm On Sep 17, 2010
Onlytruth:

The innate inability to harm innocent people remains Igboman's weakest attribute. Virtually every other tribe in Nigeria can do that except the Igbo. Have you noticed that whenever a Hausaman is fighting with a non Hausa, if a second Hausaman is passing by, he joins the fight IMMEDIATELY on his brothers side without even asking any questions?
If you want to understand the essence of this behavior more, go to the animals channel on cable TV and take a close look at how lions hunt.

They can kill ANY animal in the jungle. I've seen them take down elephants, hippos, crocodiles, giant snakes, just name any animal. Watch how they do it. In that hunt, there are no males or females; every member of the lion pack joins the fray without asking questions.
That is what make them the most powerful beasts in the jungle.

Now, revert to Igbo. Good luck with convincing your friend (never mind a stranger undecided) to help you deal with a person (even if that person's tribe is the biggest anti Igbo tribe on earth undecided).

That is the only reason why I don't do the "Igbo enwe eze" thing. I simply don't because I don't see how it helps us to survive in the jungle that is Nigeria. In may have helped us in the olden days when we were protected by the jungle, but it cannot work today. Simple. We need to act together, without asking questions. If a lion sits out a hunt, do you think the rest of the pack will allow him to eat the game? HELL NO!

So, Ojukwu acted like a typical Igbo man at the time. "Oh these are innocent people, and they have nothing to do with the kiling of Igbos in the north". But, one would be like "duh" but Igbos being killed in the north are innocents!

So, you may have to adopt my philosophy of "fight first, ask questions later".
I am with YOU 10000%. Aint no way I will let a Fulani man harm an Igbo whther the Igbo was right or wrong.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by dayokanu(m): 9:29pm On Sep 17, 2010
I think the biafra army too murdered people in the Midwest before they were stopped at Ore.

So Ojukwu too fits as a murderer
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 9:33pm On Sep 17, 2010
dayokanu:

I think the biafra army too murdered people in the Midwest before they were stopped at Ore.

So Ojukwu too fits as a murderer

First of all, you cannot morph everything together. The Biafran expeditionary forces did not hunt down innocent civilians. Secondly, the Igbos who were massacred in the north were killed by their neighbors and other civilians of the north.
So don't try to muddle the waters. It is clear enough.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by dayokanu(m): 9:36pm On Sep 17, 2010
The people killed in the midwest by the invading biafra army, were they guilty civilians?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 9:39pm On Sep 17, 2010
udezue:

I am with YOU 10000%. Aint no way I will let a Fulani man harm an Igbo whther the Igbo was right or wrong.

That's what I talking about Udezue! Thanks! I adopted that philosophy at a very young age and I am waxing stronger each day. It makes every sense. Take a look at Israel. If Israelis are not as militant as they are, do you think they will still be in Palestine? Of course not! I never understood why Israel would for instance kill 100 Palestinians for a single dead Israeli until I applied it to Hausa and Igbo issues. It then became as clear as day. So, the question is, do you want to survive or not? Period.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 9:42pm On Sep 17, 2010
dayokanu:

The people killed in the midwest by the invading biafra army, were they guilty civilians?

Keep trying to dodge the issues. I just won't bite it!
In the north and west, neighbors woke up to hack down their neighbors for no reason other than that they were Igbo.
Soldiers were busy killing Igbo soldiers, but that can be called a coup. How you do explain that your uncle in Ogbomoso killed his Igbo neighbor as part of a lynching mob?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by cap28: 9:51pm On Sep 17, 2010
What Gowon is saying is true, but the problem is that the youth in nigeria are not radical enough in their thinking to even understand that their destiny lies in their own hands.

If you look at most revolutionary movements in countries all over the world, they are usually initiated by the youth, the younger generation have a lot more to offer as they are untainted by money, corruption and greed, the most successful revolutionary movements have always been galvanised and initiated by the youth, but the nigerian youth have been indoctrinated into a sheepish follow follow type behaviour, many of them do not read widely and therefore have no understanding of world issues and struggles of oppressed groups all over the world, as a result , seventy year old tyrants and ex drug barons can easily bamboozle them with sweet words and false promises and therefore the cycle continues.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by dayokanu(m): 9:55pm On Sep 17, 2010
If Gowon is a murderer based on the killings that happened in Biafra, Then Ojukwu too qualifies as a murderer based on the killings that happened in the Mid West
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Dede1(m): 9:57pm On Sep 17, 2010
amingafar:

i disgree nigeria didnt recieve anything cruciial from those countries. because most of the war where people died was bloodless.

the war was never really fought and not that much people died from actual combat- thats one of the pros about the war. it wasnt bloody one.

@good from gowon he was there in 1966 for nigeria and he is still here for our beloved country

There were more than battalion of combatant soldiers from Niger and Chad. I knew one Major form Chad who was involved with the coup that sent Murtala Mohammed to his grave.

The British war assistant to Nigeria was uncountable. There was one Lt Cmdr. Cox who joined Lt Cmdrs Soroh, Aduwo and Abdulahi in hunt for Lt Cmdr. Ebitu Ukaiwe who navigated away with one of Nigerian frigates.

On the diplomatic front, British were doing everything to support Nigeria.

Have you asked yourself what brought about the saga of Bakassi Peninsula? Ahmadu Ahidjo of Cameroun, who was rumored to hail from Adamawa, did everything to block Biafran eastern flank.

USSR oversupplied Nigeria with AK-47 and MIG 21 that Apapa Wharf was jammed with damaged military hardware.

Nigeria did not have many pilots who can fly the MIG fighters after young Igbo pilots left for eastern region. This is where the Egyptians, under the pretence of Muslim brotherhood, joined the fight.  There were few Australian MIG pilots. However, Nigerian had one capable MIG fight pilot in the person of Flight Lieutenant Gbadamosi King who was a Yoruba.

Arab League of Nations made sure money was not an issue for Nigeria to acquire military hardware since the war was regarded as a jihad to them. 

Now, if you have better intelligent source feel free to educate us.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Dede1(m): 10:38pm On Sep 17, 2010
dayokanu:

If Gowon is a murderer based on the killings that happened in Biafra, Then Ojukwu too qualifies as a murderer based on the killings that happened in the Mid West


This arrant nonsense is based on wild and unfounded accusations which typified the behavior of Nigerians during the war. They could not muster any form of intelligent operations unless led through the nose by the British operatives. When Nigerians are taken to the task of naming the Biafran battalion, brigade, division or commander of the units that committed the killing, they fall like pack of cards.

The Brafrans had intelligent reports of three killings of unarmed civilians at Asaba, Ogba/Egbama and Ogidi. The Biafran intelligent operatives were able to identify the units and senior commanding officer of the formation that committed the atrocity.

In fact, Nigeria is full of jokers.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by mercy307(m): 4:55pm On Sep 18, 2010
An excellent one from Gowon. Thank God he did not exclude himself. It demonstrates sincerity on his part.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Ayowumie(m): 11:31am On Sep 20, 2010
Onlytruth:

Keep trying to dodge the issues. I just won't bite it!
In the north and west, neighbors woke up to hack down their neighbors for no reason other than that they were Igbo.
Soldiers were busy killing Igbo soldiers, but that can be called a coup. How you do explain that your uncle in Ogbomoso killed his Igbo neighbor as part of a lynching mob?


@onlytruth, there never was a case in the west in which people (or any body for that matter) hack down their Igbo neighbours.
Prove me wrong if you are that sure. I think it is high time we separated objectivity from sentimentality. Gbam!!!!

Dede1:


This arrant nonsense is based on wild and unfounded accusations which typified the behavior of Nigerians during the war. They could not muster any form of intelligent operations unless led through the nose by the British operatives. When Nigerians are taken to the task of naming the Biafran battalion, brigade, division or commander of the units that committed the killing, they fall like pack of cards.

The Brafrans had intelligent reports of three killings of unarmed civilians at Asaba, Ogba/Egbama and Ogidi. The Biafran intelligent operatives were able to identify the units and senior commanding officer of the formation that committed the atrocity.

In fact, Nigeria is full of jokers. 

Because Biafrans had intelligent reports during the war nko? What exactly are your points?

cap28:

What Gowon is saying is true, but the problem is that the youth in nigeria are not radical enough in their thinking to even understand that their destiny lies in their own hands.

If you look at most revolutionary movements in countries all over the world, they are usually initiated by the youth, the younger generation have a lot more to offer as they are untainted by money, corruption and greed, the most successful revolutionary movements have always been galvanised and initiated by the youth, but the nigerian youth have been indoctrinated into a sheepish follow follow type behaviour, many of them do not read widely and therefore have no understanding of world issues and struggles of oppressed groups all over the world,  as a result , seventy year old tyrants and ex drug barons can easily bamboozle them with sweet words and false promises and therefore the cycle continues.


IT STARTS WITH YOU SIR! What have you done in your own capacity as a youth?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by bkbabe97y(m): 11:47am On Sep 20, 2010
Onlytruth:

The innate inability to harm innocent people remains Igboman's weakest attribute. Virtually every other tribe in Nigeria can do that except the Igbo.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.lol. OnlyTruth just wiped out JAN'15, 1966 from the annals of history with just a few clicks of the mouse. . . . . . I know even u dont believe this LIE u put on here!
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by dayokanu(m): 5:01pm On Sep 20, 2010
Onlytruth:

The innate inability to harm innocent people remains Igboman's weakest attribute. Virtually every other tribe in Nigeria can do that except the Igbo.


Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu and co who killed Balewa, Sardauna, Akintola and Okotie Eboh either they are not Igbos or the ppl killed are guilty people.

Adjudged guilty in the mind of the Igbo soldiers while the Igbo politicians are all saints.

But since someone has told us that Balewa died of asthma, Sardauna died watching hardcore p0rn, Akintola died of acne and Okotie Eboh died from Viagra overdose.

We can absolve those Igbo soldiers and all Igbo of lacking the innate ability to harm innocent people
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 6:14pm On Sep 20, 2010
dayokanu:

Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu and co who killed Balewa, Sardauna, Akintola and Okotie Eboh either they are not Igbos or the ppl killed are guilty people.

Adjudged guilty in the mind of the Igbo soldiers while the Igbo politicians are all saints.

But since someone has told us that Balewa died of asthma, Sardauna died watching hardcore p0rn, Akintola died of acne and Okotie Eboh died from Viagra overdose.

We can absolve those Igbo soldiers and all Igbo of lacking the innate ability to harm innocent people

So a coup by soldiers targeting politicians and soldiers protecting them is the same as killing your neighbor?

A neighbor whom you hustle with, like the rest of the masses on a daily basis, you wake up and kill him?

The Igbo are only just beginning to do that with recent retaliations after northern riots. My fervent prayer is that Ndigbo should actually map out a mass re-orientation campaign to change the usual stoopid Igbo ethos of never harming the innocent. The blood of OUR innocents soak and fertilize the Nigerian soil. For us to survive in Nigeria, Ndigbo need to be organized around a new philosophy copied from the Israelis. You kill one of us, we kill ten of you. Simple.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by dayokanu(m): 6:17pm On Sep 20, 2010
Someone claimed Igbos dont kill innocent people.
I wonder how someone can come to that conclusion
When history shows us that Soldiers of Igbo extraction killed notable politicians who didnt commit any crime.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by seanet02: 6:21pm On Sep 20, 2010
Only Igbos and IBB know what they have in COMMON, it takes two to tango, and since i have never associate anything with IBB except EVIL, igbos are you SATANIC?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 6:24pm On Sep 20, 2010
dayokanu:

Someone claimed Igbos dont kill innocent people.
I wonder how someone can come to that conclusion
When history shows us that Soldiers of Igbo extraction killed notable politicians who didnt commit any crime.


Have you heard of the term "coup" in your life before? Apart from that coup, show me any other time in Nigerian history that Igbo civilians killed their visitors except in retaliations of the recent years.
Why are you trying to lie again?
You are really pathetic frankly. undecided

In any case, I want the retaliations to continue, but on a more aggressive scale to deter future occurrence. You kill one of ours, we kill ten to hundred of yours. cool
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 6:26pm On Sep 20, 2010
seanet02:

Only Igbos and IBB know what they have in COMMON, it takes two to tango, and since i have never associate anything with IBB except EVIL, igbos are you SATANIC?

The SATANIC tribe is yours who connived with your SATAN ancestor Awolowo to starve 2 million innocent Igbo and eastern children to death.  cool
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Nobody: 6:35pm On Sep 20, 2010
Onlytruth:

The SATANIC tribe is yours who connived with your SATAN ancestor Awolowo to starve 2 million innocent Igbo and eastern children to death.  cool
You don start with your beautiful lies again. . .ehn ?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by Onlytruth(m): 6:42pm On Sep 20, 2010
~Bluetooth:

You don start with your beautiful lies again. . .ehn ?

It is the truth. Face it. cool
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by bkbabe97y(m): 6:43pm On Sep 20, 2010
Onlytruth:

So a coup by soldiers targeting politicians and soldiers protecting them is the same as killing your neighbor?



Dude, u do know that this [b]Ibo coup [/b]which u try ur darndest to justify, actually blew open the lid to Pandora's box, right?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by dayokanu(m): 8:01pm On Sep 20, 2010
Onlytruth:

Have you heard of the term "coup" in your life before? Apart from that coup, show me any other time in Nigerian history that Igbo civilians killed their visitors except in retaliations of the recent years.
Why are you trying to lie again?


Question did Igbo soldiers kill people from other tribes on january 15 1966? Yes or No

If Yes then it can be seen that Igbos have at a time killed innocent people.

If No, Which tribe does Ifeajuna and co come from?
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by bkbabe97y(m): 4:11am On Sep 21, 2010
dayokanu:

Question did Igbo soldiers kill people from other tribes on january 15 1966? Yes or No

If Yes then it can be seen that Igbos have at a time killed innocent people.

If No, Which tribe does Ifeajuna and co come from?

Ifeajuna was Chinese, Nzeogwu was Hausa!
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by chyz(m): 4:12am On Sep 21, 2010
bk.babe97y:

Ifeajuna was Chinese, Nzeogwu was Hausa!

I'm glad you agree.
Re: Retired Generals Should Allow Young Generation To Rule - Gowon ! by bkbabe97y(m): 10:08pm On Sep 21, 2010
chyz:

I'm glad you agree.

Dude, hop off my nuts! Stop fuxckin following me around like a male-groupie. The only biyytch that should be allowed to stalk me is my baby mums, and even that'll earn her a few slaps and kicks if she dont watch it. . . . .Now, be gone!

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