Dede1:


Lt. Cols Fajuyi and Ariyo were combatants of Yoruba stock who earned my respect. Fajuyi was targeted for his alleged involvement with January 15, 1966 coup. 

Lt. Cols Fajuyi and Ariyo were combatants of Yoruba stock who earned my respect. Fajuyi was targeted for his alleged involvement with January 15, 1966 coup

T9ksy:

For once, Dede, you made sense. Its truism that Fajuyi was complicit in the Jan '66 coup, just as Ironsi too, was. Major Ademoyega in his book "why we struck" alluded to Fajuyi being in the know and actually gave "operational advice" to the young coupists.

Aloy+Emeka:

You knew that how?

T9ksy:

For once, Dede, you made sense. Its truism that Fajuyi was complicit in the Jan '66 coup, just as Ironsi too, was. Major Ademoyega in his book "why we struck" alluded to Fajuyi being in the know and actually gave "operational advice" to the young coupists.

Dede1:

I have told you to drop all the conjectural craps that are being offloaded everyday on this board from your menu. In addition, I advised you to indulge in exploratory research. Believe me you will be surprise at the facts you can uncover. 

For the sake of shameful Nigeria polity, if Yoruba organizers invite me to speak on the occasion such as foundation for Fajuyi, I would praise him but will not go as far as ridiculing Fajuyi with the crap of wanting to die with Ironsi. It is fairytale for the loonies.

So you are one of those who refuse to believe that he sacrificed his life to save Ironsi?

Seriously, I do not trade on unfounded newspaper stories.

T9ksy:


So, on what do you base your assertions, on? unless you were actively present at the time of all these occurances, which i doubt very much. Why then, don't you intimate us with your own "founded newspaper stories", if any? You can't dispute something without offering something else in its place. Seems to me that you just like to be disagreeable, just for the hell of it. guess, that's how you get your kicks. Oh well, good luck to you.

Ebitu Ukiwe if I read correctly is not Yoruba and he is the one eulogising Fajuyi there.

Nana Okuribido and also Gen Ovadje, None of these names sounded like a Yoruba name to me.

So what do these people have to gain by prapagating lies

T9ksy:

Trust me Dayo, Fajuyi knew about the coup! I don't know why these people are propagating such lies maybe they weren't aware of its duplitiousness. I have come acroos many primary sources that points to the fact that Fajuyi was complicit in the jan '66, coup.

Thats why I am thinking what would non Yorubas stand to gain by propagating such lies. If the truth was obvious to you and dede1 Why would a whole general Ukiwe not know this truth and choose to lie publicly.

Even another Gen Ovadje and nana too

dayokanu:

Ebitu Ukiwe if I read correctly is not Yoruba and he is the one eulogising Fajuyi there.

Nana Okuribido and also Gen Ovadje, None of these names sounded like a Yoruba name to me.

So what do these people have to gain by prapagating lies

safariman:

The moment Fajuyi was killed, the news that he offered himself as well was the overwhelming story that went around at that time. i.e. it was not an after thought

mens dept:



The major issue with Fajuyi is that he died alongside Ironsi, and to many, shows his loyalty to his boss and friend, who ironically was not a fellow Yoruba. You cant say that Akintola would have died alongside Balewa, or even Ojukwu with Ironsi (to be fair), yet Fajuyi's faith remains one of the nations few examples of someone in power not chickening out, not known to embezzle, and not known to be a tribalist.

dayokanu:

Thats why I am thinking what would non Yorubas stand to gain by propagating such lies. If the truth was obvious to you and dede1 Why would a whole general Ukiwe not know this truth and choose to lie publicly.

Even another Gen Ovadje and nana too

safariman:



The news may not have traveled to all regions, but I was in Ibadan at that time and that was the story[b] going around that he died nobly along side Ironsi[/b]

Don't you think that Fajuyi's action was stewpid knowing full well that their assailants were armed and would have killed Ironsi with or without his cooperation. Wouldn't it have been better for him to save one life[his own in this case]  and let the other go?.

T9ksy:

Posted by: Aloy+Emeka
He probable knew that his time was up. He knew Danjuma and his murderous group were gonna kill him anyway. So what's the point? those were the days when soldiers were real soldiers and not the militicians we have nowadays.

safariman:



The news may not have traveled to all regions, but I was in Ibadan at that time and that was the story going around that he died nobly along side Ironsi

Dede1:


Of course, Fajuyi died alongside Ironsi but never offered to die as the propagandists would want to believe.   

I had a personal chat with one of the men who was at center of the debacle inside the state house at Ibadan in the person of Flight Lieutenant Arthur Nwankwo, one of the ADCs to Ironsi and the soldier who threatened Major Danjuma with his pistol.

Katsumoto:

Dude,

I have often stated that you shouldn't have a public debate hinged upon personal conversations. You had a chat with Nwankwo, the same Nwankwo who 'escaped miraculously' when he was supposed to be shot at the same time as Fajuyi and Ironsi. You accuse others of posting conjecture yet your own argument is nothing more than conjecture.

Let us look at the facts
1. F[b]ajuyi was not arrested, charged, or had his name cited in any coup plotting material.[/b] I can not say for certain whether he was involved or not but it is quite possible that his name was slandered after his death. Afterall, the allegations only surfaced after his death.

2. When Danjuma, Walbe, and others got to the state house and were met at the door by Fajuyi, they had a conversation and said they were there to arrest Ironsi. Fajuyi extracted a promise from Danjuma that Ironsi would not be harmed. When the plotters were arguing with Ironsi about his inactions after the January coup, Fajuyi was still a mediator. It was during this argument that Nwankwo pulled a gun on Danjuma
3. When Gowon called the government house to warn Fajuyi and Ironsi about the coup, Danjuma answered the phone. This was a side house and not the main house. When Gowon asked Danjuma what was going on, Danjuma said he was there to arrest Ironsi. Again, no mention of Fajuyi.

All sources agree on the above facts. The stories start to change when Fajuyi, Ironsi and Nwankwo are bundled into a truck. Some sources claimed Danjuma walked back to the barracks while others place him at the scene of the killings. The question is, why were there different accounts after Ironsi and Fajuyi were killed? My analysis comes from reading Nowa, Maxsiollun, Gen Haruna, and other accounts of that episode.

My opinion
Danjuma, Murtala and the other plotters could not justify the killing of an innocent man to his people and chose to malign his name by alleging that he was part of the plot. This is pure conjecture without facts. If there is no hard proof linking Fajuyi to the Jan 66 coup, then the only reasonable explanation is that he must have offered to die alongside Ironsi so as not to have the sin of complicity on his head. Or he may have been killed just because he was with Ironsi and the plotters did not want to leave a high ranking military officer as a witness.

Aloy+Emeka:

Was Ironsi arrested?

Aloy+Emeka:


All these are based on hearsay and media reports; You need to give Dede something tangible and convincing because he will thrash you with this evidence.