Global warming is a scam and most of you don't know it, you think you are saving the planet but what the preachers of global warming are doing is just to get a centralised power to determine human future rather than to help protect the earth.

in 1968 the club of rome was formed by elites to use the excuse of the environment to transform society, so the tactics they use in spreading their propaganda has been "to save the planet", so what this think tank group are disguising telling us that to save the planet, there needs to be a centralised power to save the planet..these people just want power and nothing more, in recent years the club of Rome has been the big driver of global warming and trying its best to shape all sphere of human affairs even education toward global warming.

have you ever heard of the UN agenda called agenda 2030, these agenda laid out a strategy for transforming society to what the elite wants it to be and who has been the number 1 group supporting these agenda? the club of Rome..what are these guys doing, they create an illusion of global warming then work for solutions to solve that illusion by centralisation of power, when you have power centralised, you can control human beings with any agenda in your head.

presently we have the green new deal which in America has been a major topic and have the support of the democratic party, all that is in that green new deal is rumor and fear mongering, basically what is written there is that we have 12 years to save the planet or the planet will be destroyed, if you read the green new deal is all the plan there is to centralised power and create a dictatorial system where the elites can control and shape all human behaviors..the reality is this, the planet doesn't need saving, the planet on its own has a natural balance mechanism that helps in balancing temperature, according to weather reports and research, the planet on its own has been balancing itself, sometimes there are period of extreme and moderate temperature all throughout human history, it is a natural cycle and it has nothing to do with human activities.

One of the agenda of global warming and climate change is to tell the masses that carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming, truth is that without carbon dioxide we will all be dead,

facts: 98% of greenhouse gases is water vapor and clouds, another stuff is that the vast majority of carbon dioxide is naturally generated not human generated, also we shouldn't forget that plants also need carbon dioxide for their survival,animals also produce their own mess, are we going to kill all the animals, the plants on planet to justify an agenda

You seem forget to that industrialization creates even more CO and CFCs.

Also, since population is nearing a climax, in the next 500 years something 'would be done' to wipe out life forms so we can start again.

TarOrfeek:


You seem forget to that industrialization creates even more CO and CFCs.

Also, since population is nearing a climax, in the next 500 years something 'would be done' to wipe out life forms so we can start again.

but every developed nation went through industrialisation to get to where they are..

why are they now preaching global warning when developing countries want to get industrialised

lilwetdick:


but every developed nation went through industrialisation to get to where they are..

why are they now preaching global warning when developing countries want to get industrialised

The unfortunate problem is that the costs are becoming worse than the benefits; there are other ways to development than to destroy everything Permian style in the process.

cactusland:

The unfortunate problem is that the costs are becoming worse than the benefits; there are other ways to development than to destroy everything Permian style in the process.

what other ways to develop without going through the process of industrialization, can you name them please?

lilwetdick:


what other ways to develop without going through the process of industrialization, can you name them please?

Development is impossible without at least some industrialization, but industrialization is possible without emissions. Look up Thorium Salt reactors, zaï and cordons pierreux, solar power, dam-free hydropower, vortex wind power (that way birds won't get caught up), car batteries, anti-poaching laws, anti-pollution laws, and aggresively enforcing anti-corruption legislation.

cactusland:

Development is impossible without at least some industrialization, but industrialization is possible without emissions. Look up Thorium Salt reactors, zaï and cordons pierreux, solar power, dam-free hydropower, vortex wind power (that way birds won't get caught up), car batteries, anti-poaching laws, anti-pollution laws, and aggresively enforcing anti-corruption legislation.

but thorium salt reactors is dangerous if not manage well, dam free hydropower is still being research on

solar and wind energy cant power a factory

no country can developed without emitting some kind of pollution, developed countries emit more pollutions than less developed countries, coal is still use to power electricity in developed countries

lilwetdick:


but thorium salt reactors is dangerous if not manage well, dam free hydropower is still being research on

solar and wind energy cant power a factory

no country can developed without emitting some kind of pollution, developed countries emit more pollutions than less developed countries, coal is still use to power electricity in developed countries

Anything is dangerous if managed incorrectly, but the thorium reactors fail by simply cooling down and draining to a tank. The only way this could become dangerous is if the tank(s) holding the fuel are ruptured. Otherwise, failure consists of fuel draining into a special tank for failed reactions, while the failed component is fixed. They cannot fail like Liquid Water Reactors, which can have situations like Chernobyl, Fukushima, and Three Mile Island due to the fact of steam pressure and potential for zirconium to start reacting with the water producing explosive hydrogen.
This great link on the matter sums everything up here \/
https://liquidfluoridethoriumreactor.glerner.com/2012-how-might-lftrs-fail/

As for solar and wind energy being unable to power factories, that may not be true as solar technology gets better and more efficient (not to mention how notoriously sunny much of Africa is even in the forest), however there is also a type of "space solar power" in the works that can self-replicate using lunar materials, potentially powering everything on earth. And it would be cheap by world standards (only about 10 billion or so dollars; budget that countries can pool together for such a project). Both wind energy and solar energy are viable in Nigeria, as the country is both coastal and Sahelian (areas that can't use solar can easily use wind power from the mountains, wave power or aforementioned nuclear)
https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/renewable-energy-in-africa-is-set-to-surge-by-2040-iea-says



As for pollution, semi industrialized nations like Nigeria are at a severe disadvantage due to plastic pollution. In the industrialized nations, it's gaseous pollution that is most problematic. For developing nations, it's mostly plastic and chemical pollution from unsafe factories.

Coal is only being used in Africa sparingly, and usually for the heating of homes or for cooking. Nigeria, North Africa, and Equatorial Guinea are excluded due to heavy revenues from fossil fuels in all those countries.

cactusland:


Anything is dangerous if managed incorrectly, but the thorium reactors fail by simply cooling down and draining to a tank. The only way this could become dangerous is if the tank(s) holding the fuel are ruptured. Otherwise, failure consists of fuel draining into a special tank for failed reactions, while the failed component is fixed. They cannot fail like Liquid Water Reactors, which can have situations like Chernobyl, Fukushima, and Three Mile Island due to the fact of steam pressure and potential for zirconium to start reacting with the water producing explosive hydrogen.
This great link on the matter sums everything up here \/
https://liquidfluoridethoriumreactor.glerner.com/2012-how-might-lftrs-fail/

As for solar and wind energy being unable to power factories, that may not be true as solar technology gets better and more efficient (not to mention how notoriously sunny much of Africa is even in the forest), however there is also a type of "space solar power" in the works that can self-replicate using lunar materials, potentially powering everything on earth. And it would be cheap by world standards (only about 10 billion or so dollars; budget that countries can pool together for such a project). Both wind energy and solar energy are viable in Nigeria, as the country is both coastal and Sahelian (areas that can't use solar can easily use wind power from the mountains, wave power or aforementioned nuclear)
https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/renewable-energy-in-africa-is-set-to-surge-by-2040-iea-says



As for pollution, semi industrialized nations like Nigeria are at a severe disadvantage due to plastic pollution. In the industrialized nations, it's gaseous pollution that is most problematic. For developing nations, it's mostly plastic and chemical pollution from unsafe factories.

Coal is only being used in Africa sparingly, and usually for the heating of homes or for cooking. Nigeria, North Africa, and Equatorial Guinea are excluded due to heavy revenues from fossil fuels in all those countries.

do your research well, coal is still used for generating electricity in the developed world especially in the US

as i said earlier, factories for industrialization cant be powered by solar or wind power even the factories for making this technology dont use solar or wind to power their factories, factories need a large amount of power which can not be provided by solar or wind. there are many research about this online

development comes with its own problems, even societies who are industrialising and developing like china, india and vietnam needs lot of energy to power their industrial revolution, you cant develop without causing pollution that is a fact all over the world..

i love your we should save the planet stuff but damn again we need to be reaisitic, and use the real source of generating electricity to power our development, after we get that development then can we be thinking of clean power like what the west are preaching

U.S. coal production increased 6.4% year over year to 774.6 million short tons (MMst). The total productive capacity of U.S. coal mines was 1,058.6 MMst, a decrease of 0.9% from the 2016 level.-(eia.gov)

coal suppliers are Russia (38.5 percent), the United States (17.8 percent) and Columbia (12.7 percent). Hard coal amounted to 10 percent of Germany's primary energy use in 2018[b][/b]. Most is burned for power generation and produced 12.9 percent of Germany's gross electricity that year.

Large reserves in countries like China and the United States define them as global leaders in coal production. Coal is the key to the worldwide structure of energy. It accounts for about 40% of the world's electricity production, hence it is a leading source of electricity.