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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by austineabba(m): 6:10pm On Jul 30, 2019
Obaseki your crime is that you refused to be a Puppet. But Oshio should note that this is Edo not Lagos. You can not control a typical Edo man.
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by thinkmoney(m): 6:12pm On Jul 30, 2019
sagaciousblog:
see how ugly you are and you still have the impetus to be bashing Edo guys.. You worwor and come still broke grin
fear God o. u can lie!!!
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by iloveyou82(f): 6:37pm On Jul 30, 2019
ernieboy:
I vote for individuals, not parties that's the problem with many of you folks. you follow parties blindly even if a shady character is flying the party flag.
and You voted for thief atiku and supported all criminals in pdp like thief saraki etc

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by fayruka(m): 6:42pm On Jul 30, 2019
MrsNwaAmaikpe:
shocked shocked

Obaseki is not a coward like Ambode to chicken out of a fight where you hold the advantage called power.


Obaseki has power as the governor of the and he said it emphatically he can't issue a proclamation twice.

Buhari and Oshomole should go and hug transformer
You are just a fool. what is wrong is wrong! 9 out of 24 lawmakers? if it is you, will u accept it?. you are one of Buhari's haters and Atiku fanatic

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by GreyLaw(m): 6:59pm On Jul 30, 2019
Sorry Oshiomole, they say Obaseki cannot win thin fight, neither can you!
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Ubenedictus(m): 7:24pm On Jul 30, 2019
Myself2:
Someone remind me exactly how Oshiomhole issued proclamation for the assembly in his second term.Was it not the same Oshiomhole that sent thugs in the middle of the night to remove the roof of the Edo assembly so his men in the assembly could be sitting in govt house?? Oyegun was national chairman of APC then but he let Oshiomhole be
oshiomole inaugurated his house well according to law. He didn't do a night inauguration.

It is true he removed the roof of the house of assembly claiming he wanted to repair it. But he never hid the time for assembly meeting or inauguration

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by ernieboy(m): 8:17pm On Jul 30, 2019
iloveyou82:
and You voted for thief atiku and supported all criminals in pdp like thief saraki etc
why do u assume I voted for atiku
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Tecno66: 9:08pm On Jul 30, 2019
Bobby4090:
What is bad is bad. One should not side with Obaseki in this injusticeYou just to spite Oshiomole. It's a war taken too far.
You are right. Obaseki was just being smart but it won't work. Though Oshiomhole did the same thing when he was governor but that doesn't make it a right action. I believe Obaseki will prefer the national Assembly to take over, at least they won't get to two third to impeach him but if Edo house of assembly is inaugurated, Oshiomhole has sixteen of the twenty-four members in his pocket.
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Tecno66: 9:25pm On Jul 30, 2019
MrsNwaAmaikpe:
shocked shocked

Obaseki is not a coward like Ambode to chicken out of a fight where you hold the advantage called power.


Obaseki has power as the governor of the and he said it emphatically he can't issue a proclamation twice.

Buhari and Oshomole should go and hug transformer
Ambode was not really a coward. Obaseki is only learning from what happened in Lagos. Almost all the members of the Lagos State house of assembly then and even now were sponsored by Tinubu. Even the Speaker then was installed by Tinubu. So when Tinubu decided not to back Ambode's re-election, the man would have moved to another party to contest but they used the house to threaten him with impeachment. Meanwhile, he needed the power of his incumbency to brighten his chances. So, if Obaseki allows Oshiomhole to take over the house, he will be like a goat being led to the slaughter house.

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by yemex04(m): 9:53pm On Jul 30, 2019
Obaseki would most certainly loose this battle..He shot himself on the leg by doing something illegal and it's obvious to all..right now, all forces that matter are against him including the. presidency, national assembly and ofcourse the APC at the national level..he is on his own.

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by yemex04(m): 9:57pm On Jul 30, 2019
Tecno66:
Ambode was not really a coward. Obaseki is only learning from what happened in Lagos. Almost all the members of the Lagos State house of assembly then and even now were sponsored by Tinubu. Even the Speaker then was installed by Tinubu. So when Tinubu decided not to back Ambode's re-election, the man would have moved to another party to contest but they used the house to threaten him with impeachment. Meanwhile, he needed the power of his incumbency to brighten his chances. So, if Obaseki allows Oshiomhole to take over the house, he will be like a goat being led to the slaughter house.



Ambode acted wisely by not fighting too dirty since he knew he would not win the battle..Obaseki with all his bravery would stll loose anyways..

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Tulsaguy: 10:07pm On Jul 30, 2019
If you think Osho baba is a small man... ask saraki....
Saraki right now

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by ogbonti: 10:59pm On Jul 30, 2019
iloveyou82:
who know obaseki in benin, oshomole is stil popular than obaseki in the very benin city, oba can even reject obaseki becos of oshomole




You obviously don't know the Bini people

There was a certain Professor Ambrose Folorunsho Alli; who was elected executive Governor of old Bendel State (now Edo and Delta States) in 1979. He was loved by the former Oba of Benin, Oba Erediauwa, and he worshipped the Oba like a true son of the Soil.

He did nothing in Bendel State as Governor without consulting with and seeking the blessings of Oba Erediauwa, and he was loved by the Bini people, although he was of Esan extraction; Ekpoma to be precise.

He gave free education to all Bendelites, who were willing to go to school. As a Professor of Morbid Anatomy, he knew the value of education and he established a lot of primary and post primary institutions across the state, which was then known as "Awo School" because he was an avowed socialist and staunch member of the Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN) and an unrepentant Disciple of Late Chief Obafemi Awolowo. He was an Awoist; who was incorruptible - he was a diligent and ethical leader who was loved by all. ........
BUT.... BUT in 1983 -

As soon as the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) presented Dr. Samuel Osaigbovo Ogbemudia, a Bini man as the party''s flag bearer to run against Professor Alli, every Bini man turned against Alli. They called him a yoruba man because his middle name was Folorunso, and even the market women swept his feet away from the streets with broom, and he lost his re-election.

Note this TODAY!

EVERY BENIN MAN WILL TAKE SIDE WITH A BENIN MAN WHEN THAT BENIN MAN IS FIGHTING AGAINST A NON-BINI PERSON. DON'T BE FOOLED!!!

OBASEKI IS A BINI MAN - OSHOMOLE IS NOT grin

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by ogbonti: 11:12pm On Jul 30, 2019
austineabba:
Obaseki your crime is that you refused to be a Puppet. But Oshio should note that this is Edo not Lagos. You can not control a typical Edo man.


God bless you
Very Soon, Benin people will remind Oshomole he is an Afemai, and not a Bini man


Agha so oghe edo, edorodion.....Edo gha soghomwan, edo ye odion....

You don't know the Benin people. The binis WILL Never Let Their Own Play second Fiddle To A Non Bini person. Oshomole, will be taught the lesson of his life very soon. Book this space!!!!
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Xzellentgraphic: 12:44am On Jul 31, 2019
ogbonti:





You obviously don't know the Bini people

There was a certain Professor Ambrose Folorunsho Alli; who was elected executive Governor of old Bendel State (now Edo and Delta States) in 1979. He was loved by the former Oba of Benin, Oba Erediauwa, and he worshipped the Oba like a true son of the Soil.

He did nothing in Bendel State as Governor without consulting with and seeking the blessings of Oba Erediauwa, and he was loved by the Bini people, although he was of Esan extraction; Ekpoma to be precise.

He gave free education to all Bendelites, who were willing to go to school. As a Professor of Morbid Anatomy, he knew the value of education and he established a lot of primary and post primary institutions across the state, which was then known as "Awo School" because he was an avowed socialist and staunch member of the Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN) and an unrepentant Disciple of Late Chief Obafemi Awolowo. He was an Awoist; who was incorruptible - he was a diligent and ethical leader who was loved by all. ........
BUT.... BUT in 1983 -

As soon as the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) presented Dr. Samuel Osaigbovo Ogbemudia, a Bini man as the party''s flag bearer to run against Professor Alli, every Bini man turned against Alli. They called him a yoruba man because his middle name was Folorunso, and even the market women swept his feet away from the streets with broom, and he lost his re-election.

Note this TODAY!

EVERY BENIN MAN WILL TAKE SIDE WITH A BENIN MAN WHEN THAT BENIN MAN IS FIGHTING AGAINST A NON-BINI PERSON. DON'T BE FOOLED!!!
So who amongst them is the real bini

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by ogbonti: 3:34am On Jul 31, 2019
Xzellentgraphic:

So who amongst them is the real bini


if you do not know the answer to the question above you asked, you do not have a business replying me and contributing on this thread!
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Deadlytruth(m): 4:07am On Jul 31, 2019
ogbonti:





You obviously don't know the Bini people

There was a certain Professor Ambrose Folorunsho Alli; who was elected executive Governor of old Bendel State (now Edo and Delta States) in 1979. He was loved by the former Oba of Benin, Oba Erediauwa, and he worshipped the Oba like a true son of the Soil.

He did nothing in Bendel State as Governor without consulting with and seeking the blessings of Oba Erediauwa, and he was loved by the Bini people, although he was of Esan extraction; Ekpoma to be precise.

He gave free education to all Bendelites, who were willing to go to school. As a Professor of Morbid Anatomy, he knew the value of education and he established a lot of primary and post primary institutions across the state, which was then known as "Awo School" because he was an avowed socialist and staunch member of the Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN) and an unrepentant Disciple of Late Chief Obafemi Awolowo. He was an Awoist; who was incorruptible - he was a diligent and ethical leader who was loved by all. ........
BUT.... BUT in 1983 -

As soon as the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) presented Dr. Samuel Osaigbovo Ogbemudia, a Bini man as the party''s flag bearer to run against Professor Alli, every Bini man turned against Alli. They called him a yoruba man because his middle name was Folorunso, and even the market women swept his feet away from the streets with broom, and he lost his re-election.

Note this TODAY!

EVERY BENIN MAN WILL TAKE SIDE WITH A BENIN MAN WHEN THAT BENIN MAN IS FIGHTING AGAINST A NON-BINI PERSON. DON'T BE FOOLED!!!

OBASEKI IS A BINI MAN - OSHOMOLE IS NOT grin

The attitude of blind ethnic loyalism which Binis displayed against Ambrose Alli later came hurting them and they regretted it bitterly. Moreover, recall that the then Bendel State was made up of different tribes among which the Binis were not anything near a majority to warrant the reasoning that their 'resentment' against Ambrose Alli was all needed to get him out of power. Alli's loss was actually due more to the brazen broad daylight rigging perpetrated in all UPN states by the Shagari-led NPN government which, in addition to seeking a one party state, was as well determined to get even with Ambrose Alli for disgracing it in court twice through his flooring of the NPN-led FG over Alli's power as a state governor to establish a university.... Bendel State University now AAU, and court victory of Alli again over the creation of LCDAs.
However, over the years and with the unprecedented monumental misrule of the state by another Bini son Lucky Igbinedion who remains the worst state governor in the history of Nigeria, what really matters now to the Binis and indeed to every Edo State person is good governance regardless of tribe. Please recall that in the Edo 2012 guber election which pitched Oshiomhole against Airhiavbare a Bini son, Oshiomhole swept all the 7 Bini dominated LGAs and even got up to 96% votes in some due to his sterling first term performance. This was inspite of the PDP campaign slogan which went as "Binis, vote your own...".

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by iloveyou82(f): 4:43am On Jul 31, 2019
I know all this, that is why i always assure everyone that apc can reclaim edo without obaseki because apc wil present bini man also to divide obaseki votes [quote author=ogbonti post=80787681]
There was a certain Professor Ambrose Folorunsho Alli; Governor of old Bendel State (now Edo and Delta States) in 1979. He was loved by the former Oba of Benin, Oba Erediauwa, and he worshipped the Oba like a true son of the Soil.
He did nothing in Bendel State as Governor without consulting with and seeking the blessings of Oba Erediauwa, and he was loved by the Bini people, although he was of Esan extraction; Ekpoma to be precise.
He gave free education to all Bendelites, who were willing to go to school. As a Professor of Morbid Anatomy, he knew the value of education and he established a lot of primary and post primary institutions across the state, which was then known as "Awo School" because he was an avowed socialist and staunch member of the Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN) and ; who was incorruptible - he was a
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by iloveyou82(f): 4:58am On Jul 31, 2019
Tecno66:
You are right. Obaseki was just being smart but it won't work. Though Oshiomhole did the same thing when he was governor but that doesn't make it a right action. I believe Obaseki will prefer the national Assembly to take over, at least they won't get to two third to impeach him but if Edo house of assembly is inaugurated, Oshiomhole has sixteen of the twenty-four members in his pocket.
point of correction, osho never remove the roof to inaugurate the house, it happen 2014 during the heat of gej re-election bid, when gej were trying to impeach oshomole. That was how osho defeated federal might as the only opposition gov to gej from south south

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by GARRIYELLOW: 9:56am On Jul 31, 2019
Oshibaba should just let this man be.
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by ogbonti: 12:54pm On Jul 31, 2019
Deadlytruth:


The attitude of blind ethnic loyalism which Binis displayed against Ambrose Alli later came hurting them and they regretted it bitterly. Moreover, recall that the then Bendel State was made up of different tribes among which the Binis were not anything near a majority to warrant the reasoning that their 'resentment' against Ambrose Alli was all needed to get him out of power. Alli's loss was actually due more to the brazen broad daylight rigging perpetrated in all UPN states by the Shagari-led NPN government which, in addition to seeking a one party state, was as well determined to get even with Ambrose Alli for disgracing it in court twice through his flooring of the NPN-led FG over Alli's power as a state governor to establish a university.... Bendel State University now AAU, and court victory of Alli again over the creation of LCDAs.
However, over the years and with the unprecedented monumental misrule of the state by another Bini son Lucky Igbinedion who remains the worst state governor in the history of Nigeria, what really matters now to the Binis and indeed to every Edo State person is good governance regardless of tribe. Please recall that in the Edo 2012 guber election which pitched Oshiomhole against Airhiavbare a Bini son, Oshiomhole swept all the 7 Bini dominated LGAs and even got up to 96% votes in some due to his sterling first term performance. This was inspite of the PDP campaign slogan which went as "Binis, vote your own...".



Kudos for your analysis, but you are everywhere talking about things I didn’t mention hence you are nowhere regarding giving a direct response to my assertion here on why Binis will vote for their own. Did s I hear you mention attitude of blind loyalism by the Binis?...wrong grammatical expression, it is called blind loyalty... anyways I understand what you are trying to say, but is there any tribe that doesn’t play that game in Nigeria today? Did Festus Keyamo not say it on national TV that the yorubas will not vote for Atiku because their son Osinbajo is on Buhari’s ticket? You honestly think all this block votes APC is getting from the western states is not because of 2023? You don’t know anything!

You said the Binis regretted voting out Professor Ali, HOW? S.O. Ogbemudia Who defeated Alli did not last more than 3 Months before the Buhari coup of December 31, 1983 .... so why did Bendelites or Binis regret the Ogbemudia choice ? You don’t come here spewing nonesense because you are acting on gut feeling. The Late Bridagier-Gen. Samuel Ogbemudia (Rtd) a Bini man remains the most effective Governor in the history of Midwest - Bendel - Edo/ Delta since 1963 when Midwest Region, now Edo and Delta States was created. Even your fake messiah Oshomole, will tell you that he can’t clean Ogbemudia’s sandals in terms of achievement when Ogbemudia was Governor from 1967 to 1975.

So don’t come here demonizing a tribe; making sweeping generalizations that Binis are bad leaders just because LuckyIgbinedion goofed... the person who used Lucky to destroy Edo State was Tony Anenih, “MR. FIX IT” an Esan man who for so many years was the “major domo” god-father and king maker - not only in Edo State but in Nigerian politics. The fear of or total loyalty to ANNENIH then in Nigeria was the beginning of political wisdom. So stop the nonesense of trying to make a silly impression here that Binis are incapable of being good administrators. Obaseki has not even completed 3 years of his administration, HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WILL NOT SURPASS WHATEVER OSHOMOLE CLAIMS HE DID IF OBASEKI IS GIVEN A FREE HAND TO RULE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS?

Arhiavbere that you mentioned was seen more as an extension of Governors Lucky Igbinedion and Oserhiemen Osunbor, and Edo State was, just like the whole of Nigeria, suffering from the PDP hangover of misrule so any body or party other than PDP was seen as the potential liberator. So it was natural for Oshomole Who was going for his second term to win... but THESE ARE VERY SEPARATE SITUATIONS....

The average Bini man is seeing what OSHIOMOLE is doing now as an attempt to call the shots; humiliate and prevent their own son from ruling independently and they won’t take that, you can propound theories here, at the end of the day, I am challenging you to BOOK MARK THIS PAGE. OSHIOMOLE is done in Edo State..... he thinks because he removed OYEGUN as National APC chairman ........ a Bini man, then he can come and remove a son of the soil from Governemnt House, Osadebey Avenue, BENIN CITY? Whossssaaaaai..... OSHIOMOLE and yourself do not know the Benin people.

Oshomole got a free hand to rule Edo State almost as a maximum ruler and no one opposed him for 8 solid years..... Now, he wants to remote control Obaseki and make him a puppet for WHAT REASON? Obaseki is the governor of Edo State and he must be respected as such. Let him rule his own 8 years in peace. Did you watch the interview OBASEKI granted that key federal positions from Edo State were done without his knowledge? Is that not an insult? He is the Governor but he is not allowed to govern..... WHO DID THAT TO OSHOMOLE ? Oshomole preached “ NO TO GOD -FATHERISM” when he was campaigning to become Governor in 2007, but just like George Orwell’s Animal Farm, he has become the grand hypocrite and he is practicing what he preached against 12 years ago, making himself a GOD FATHER!


OBASEKI IS GETTING THE ESAN PEOPLE ON HIS SIDE RIGHT NOW, AND THE OWANS..... LET US SEE HOW ONLY EDO NORTH WILL OVERRIDE HIM. THE ESAN PEOPLE WHO ARE UP MORE THAN 30 % of the ENTIRE EDO STATE POPULATION ALREADY HATE OSHIOMOLE, BECAUSE OF HOW HE DEFUNDED AMBROSE ALI UNIVERSITY TO BUILD ANOTHER STATE UNIVERSITY IN HIS HOME TOWN., HE HAS POLITICALLY SIDELINED THEIR KEY POLITICIANS AND KEEPS DEFUNDING KEY PROJECTS IN ESAN LAND BECAUSE OF HIS HATRED FOR THE LATE TONY ANNENIH AND TOM IKIMI....SO GET YOUR POP CORN READY..... THE GAME HAS STARTED!!!!!
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Deadlytruth(m): 8:58pm On Jul 31, 2019
ogbonti:




Kudos for your analysis, but you are everywhere talking about things I didn’t mention hence you are nowhere regarding giving a direct response to my assertion here on why Binis will vote for their own. Did s I hear you mention attitude of blind loyalism by the Binis?...wrong grammatical expression, it is called blind loyalty... anyways I understand what you are trying to say, but is there any tribe that doesn’t play that game in Nigeria today? Did Festus Keyamo not say it on national TV that the yorubas will not vote for Atiku because their son Osinbajo is on Buhari’s ticket? You honestly think all this block votes APC is getting from the western states is not because of 2023? You don’t know anything!
There is nothing wrong with my expression grammatically. There is actually the word loyalism in the dictionary. It simply means loyalty just for the sake of it, and which you credited Binis with in your penultimate post. It was you who so accused your own tribe of that by arguing that despite how deserving of a second term Ambrose Alli was on account of his performance as the governor of Bendel State, they decided to vote against him all the same just because he wasn't one of them. Read your previous post again and you will see where you so asserted. Therefore your citations of Keyamo's claim on TV does not cut it.

ogbonti:

You said the Binis regretted voting out Professor Ali, HOW? S.O. Ogbemudia Who defeated Alli did not last more than 3 Months before the Buhari coup of December 31, 1983 .... so why did Bendelites or Binis regret the Ogbemudia choice ? You don’t come here spewing nonesense because you are acting on gut feeling. The Late Bridagier-Gen. Samuel Ogbemudia (Rtd) a Bini man remains the most effective Governor in the history of Midwest - Bendel - Edo/ Delta since 1963 when Midwest Region, now Edo and Delta States was created.

The Binis themselves have severally openly said it that their opposition to Ambrose Alli's attempted creation of LCDAs on the prompting of Tony Anenih is a thing they regret till today having realized that if Ambrose Alli had had his way, the more than seven LCDAs into which he split the Bini areas in his proposal, would have most likely served as the template for the 1996 LGAs creation hence the Binis would have gotten more than the current seven which they currently see as insufficient. Recall that Tony Anenih and his NPN campaigned against the LCDAs proposal on the rather lame subterfuge that it was a ploy to further divide the Bini Kingdom and which Binis bought into.
How exactly did you arrive at your conclusion that Ogbemudia is the most effective governor in the history of Bendel? As a military governor for eight/nine years, he had the privilege of longer reign with nearly 100% power compared with Ambrose Alli who, had a far shorter reign with circumscribed powers and suffered legislative opposition courtesy of the democratic dispensation in which he served. Yet Ambrose Alli is generally rated above Ogbemudia in public opinion among Edos and Deltans till today. Ambrose Alli memorial lectures hold every year as a mark of honour for him posthumously but nothing as such yet for Ogbemudia.



ogbonti:

Even your fake messiah Oshomole, will tell you that he can’t clean Ogbemudia’s sandals in terms of achievement when Ogbemudia was Governor from 1967 to 1975.
You are just being hyper emotional. My mention of Oshiomhole's performance is only in the comparative sense and that doesn't translate to messiahship perception. If at all any tribe in Edo State ever regarded Oshiomhole as messiah, it is definitely the Binis because in both 2007 and 2012 elections, Oshiomhole got an overwhelming majority of his votes from the Bini areas than in Edo North and Central put together. In the 2007 election, there was no voting in my own LGA in Edo North at all due to deliberate disruption of the voting exercise by the local level PDP network which viewed him as too inconsistent to be a governor courtesy of his various compromises with Obasanjo during NLC strikes over fuel prices. Then again in 2012 election he got the least percentage votes in my own LGA in protest of his excessive focus on his home Etsako areas to the total neglect of Akoko-Edo and Owan areas. The figures are available online for everyone to see. So how could he have been a Messiah to me or majority of Edo North people made up of Akoko-Edos and Owans? You obviously love to put words into people's mouths.
ogbonti:

So don’t come here demonizing a tribe; making sweeping generalizations that Binis are bad leaders just because LuckyIgbinedion goofed... the person who used Lucky to destroy Edo State was Tony Anenih, “MR. FIX IT” an Esan man who for so many years was the “major domo” god-father and king maker - not only in Edo State but in Nigerian politics.
You yourself demonized your own tribe as a people whose choices are not guided by reason but by tribal loyalty. Read your previous post and you'll see it there.
How exactly does my citation of Lucky Igbenedion's misrule amount to a generalization that Binis are bad leaders? Do you just enjoy deliberately misinterpreting people? Your attempt to blame Lucky Igbinedion's failure on Tony Anenih's overbearing influence is a form of self contradiction because you are everywhere here commending Obaseki's self assetion and resistance to a similarly overbearing Oshiomhole. Why couldn't Lucky assert his powers and status against Anenih as Obaseki is currently doing if Lucky truly had genuinely people oriented concern as Obaseki has and is proving it by resisting Oshiomholes's godfatherism? Stop rationalizing Lucky's failure. Lucky had all the powers in his hands to demystify Anenih for the benefit of Edo people but he chose not to use it because he too had a dubious selfish agenda. Simple.

ogbonti:

The fear of or total loyalty to ANNENIH then in Nigeria was the beginning of political wisdom.
Lucky was just a bad leader. Oshiomhole chose to fight and demystify Anenih and he succeeded. So the fear of Anenih wasn't the beginning of wisdom anywhere but rather the beginning of foolishness. Likewise, Obaseki has chosen to demystify Oshiomhole whose fear is assumed to be the beginning of wisdom in APC currently. And with Edo people already queueing behind him (Obaseki), he will record success the same way Oshiomhole did recorded against Anenih. Stop manufacturing watery excuses for Lucky. He was simply a failure.


ogbonti:

So stop the nonesense of trying to make a silly impression here that Binis are incapable of being good administrators. Obaseki has not even completed 3 years of his administration, HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WILL NOT SURPASS WHATEVER OSHOMOLE CLAIMS HE DID IF OBASEKI IS GIVEN A FREE HAND TO RULE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS?
You alone know how you inferred that I claimed that Binis are bad administrators. On the contrary, I am rather trying to correct your assertion that Binis would vote their own regardless of poor performance.
ogbonti:
Airhiavbere that you mentioned was seen more as an extension of Governors Lucky Igbinedion and Oserhiemen Osunbor, and Edo State was, just like the whole of Nigeria, suffering from the PDP hangover of misrule so any body or party other than PDP was seen as the potential liberator. So it was natural for Oshomole Who was going for his second term to win... but THESE ARE VERY SEPARATE SITUATIONS....

What a way to explain away the indefensible! If Binis saw Airhiavbare as a would be extension of Lucky Igbinedion and Osunbor's rule, then how come some Binis came up with the campaign slogan of "Binis, vote your own" in obvious reference to Airhiavbare in the 2012 election?

ogbonti:

The average Bini man is seeing what OSHIOMOLE is doing now as an attempt to call the shots; humiliate and prevent their own son from ruling independently and they won’t take that, you can propound theories here, at the end of the day, I am challenging you to BOOK MARK THIS PAGE. OSHIOMOLE is done in Edo State..... he thinks because he removed OYEGUN as National APC chairman ........ a Bini man, then he can come and remove a son of the soil from Governemnt House, Osadebey Avenue, BENIN CITY? Whossssaaaaai..... OSHIOMOLE and yourself do not know the Benin people.

All the above are irrelevant digressions from the thrust of the debate here. If anything, the Binis are most responsible for Oshiomhole's rise to power as Edo State Governor. Check the results of both the 2007 and 2012 elections and you will see that fact clearly. Oshiomholes' pull down of Oyegun had more Binis than Esans and Afenais at the core of the plot. So whatever Oshiomhole does against any Bini son is the Binis own fault.

ogbonti:

Oshomole got a free hand to rule Edo State almost as a maximum ruler and no one opposed him for 8 solid years.....
That was still the Binis' fault because it was from the Binis he got the moral support to do all the despotism. Even the Edo State APC faction currently fighting Obaseki on behalf of Oshiomhole is being led by a Bini man called Samson Osagie and another called Francis Evbowan. So you can see that the resistance to Obaseki's second term is still all a Bini thing and doesn't really involve Edo North and Central which otherwise have continued to voice out support for Obaseki for nothing other than his all inclusive government and equitable distribution of infrastructural projects. Recently all the Edo North traditional rulers rose from a meeting and passed a vote of confidence on Obaseki. In fact those who campaigned most fiercely against Obaseki in the Edo 2016 election were nearly all Binis. So what exactly is your point here?

ogbonti:
ow, he wants to remote control Obaseki and make him a puppet for WHAT REASON? Obaseki is the governor of Edo State and he must be respected as such. Let him rule his own 8 years in peace.
Is it not Binis Oshiomhole is using to achieve that? Check it out, those loyal to Obaseki and fighting Oshiomhole for him in the current EDHA are majorly from Edo North and Central. The speaker and his deputy who are on Obaseki's side are from Esan NE and Akoko-Edo LGAs respectively. But the Oshiomhole 15 are mostly from the Bini LGAs of the state. Even Adjoto, the immediate past speaker of EDHA, who was loyal to Obaseki and passed all his bills easily is an Edo North son. So what is your point now?

ogbonti:

Did you watch the interview OBASEKI granted that key federal positions from Edo State were done without his knowledge? Is that not an insult? He is the Governor but he is not allowed to govern..... WHO DID THAT TO OSHOMOLE ? Oshomole preached “ NO TO GOD -FATHERISM” when he was campaigning to become Governor in 2007, but just like George Orwell’s Animal Farm, he has become the grand hypocrite and he is practicing what he preached against 12 years ago, making himself a GOD FATHER!
Do you honestly think that without the support Oshiomhole is enjoying from Binis like Samson Osagie and co, he would be bold enough to continue seeking godfather status over Obaseki? Even Anenih's godfatherism over Lucky had Bini sons at the root of it. Binis have always been their own problem. Simple!

ogbonti:
BASEKI IS GETTING THE ESAN PEOPLE ON HIS SIDE RIGHT NOW, AND THE OWANS..... LET US SEE HOW ONLY EDO NORTH WILL OVERRIDE HIM. THE ESAN PEOPLE WHO ARE UP MORE THAN 30 % of the ENTIRE EDO STATE POPULATION ALREADY HATE OSHIOMOLE, BECAUSE OF HOW HE DEFUNDED AMBROSE ALI UNIVERSITY TO BUILD ANOTHER STATE UNIVERSITY IN HIS HOME TOWN., HE HAS POLITICALLY SIDELINED THEIR KEY POLITICIANS AND KEEPS DEFUNDING KEY PROJECTS IN ESAN LAND BECAUSE OF HIS HATRED FOR THE LATE TONY ANNENIH AND TOM IKIMI....SO GET YOUR POP CORN READY..... THE GAME HAS STARTED!!!!!

Again, these are irrelevant digressions.
Meanwhile, who told you that Owans are Esans to warrant the claim above that Obaseki has won them to his side hence let's see how Edo North alone will override him? Are you sure you are really from Edo State? You don't know that Owan is part and parcel of Edo North?
Meanwhile Obaseki's strongest hold has always been Edo North. He got his highest percentage votes from Etsako West - 75% and Akoko-Edo - 69%. You don't even really understand what you are saying. You think Oshiomhole is synonymous with Edo North? We Edo North don't give our support based on ethnicism as you said of the Binis. We rather place priority on track record and demonstrated commitment to ideals. Outside Etsako Central, no where in Edo North is Oshiomhole reckoned with as a leader. The only parts of Edo State he ever enjoyed such perception hugely is the Bini areas.
You must be a commedian to credit Esans with 30% Edo State population. According to the 2016 census results, Edo South has 1.6m population, Edo North has 0.9m while Edo Central (Esans) have 0.5m.
Now through what kind of arithmetic does 0.5 million amount to 30% of the total?

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Favor99(m): 5:52am On Aug 02, 2019
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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by ogbonti: 12:56pm On Aug 02, 2019
Deadlytruth:

There is nothing wrong with my expression grammatically. There is actually the word loyalism in the dictionary. It simply means loyalty just for the sake of it, and which you credited Binis with in your penultimate post. It was you who so accused your own tribe of that by arguing that despite how deserving of a second term Ambrose Alli was on account of his performance as the governor of Bendel State, they decided to vote against him all the same just because he wasn't one of them. Read your previous post again and you will see where you so asserted. Therefore your citations of Keyamo's claim on TV does not cut it.



The Binis themselves have severally openly said it that their opposition to Ambrose Alli's attempted creation of LCDAs on the prompting of Tony Anenih is a thing they regret till today having realized that if Ambrose Alli had had his way, the more than seven LCDAs into which he split the Bini areas in his proposal, would have most likely served as the template for the 1996 LGAs creation hence the Binis would have gotten more than the current seven which they currently see as insufficient. Recall that Tony Anenih and his NPN campaigned against the LCDAs proposal on the rather lame subterfuge that it was a ploy to further divide the Bini Kingdom and which Binis bought into.
How exactly did you arrive at your conclusion that Ogbemudia is the most effective governor in the history of Bendel? As a military governor for eight/nine years, he had the privilege of longer reign with nearly 100% power compared with Ambrose Alli who, had a far shorter reign with circumscribed powers and suffered legislative opposition courtesy of the democratic dispensation in which he served. Yet Ambrose Alli is generally rated above Ogbemudia in public opinion among Edos and Deltans till today. Ambrose Alli memorial lectures hold every year as a mark of honour for him posthumously but nothing as such yet for Ogbemudia.




You are just being hyper emotional. My mention of Oshiomhole's performance is only in the comparative sense and that doesn't translate to messiahship perception. If at all any tribe in Edo State ever regarded Oshiomhole as messiah, it is definitely the Binis because in both 2007 and 2012 elections, Oshiomhole got an overwhelming majority of his votes from the Bini areas than in Edo North and Central put together. In the 2007 election, there was no voting in my own LGA in Edo North at all due to deliberate disruption of the voting exercise by the local level PDP network which viewed him as too inconsistent to be a governor courtesy of his various compromises with Obasanjo during NLC strikes over fuel prices. Then again in 2012 election he got the least percentage votes in my own LGA in protest of his excessive focus on his home Etsako areas to the total neglect of Akoko-Edo and Owan areas. The figures are available online for everyone to see. So how could he have been a Messiah to me or majority of Edo North people made up of Akoko-Edos and Owans? You obviously love to put words into people's mouths.

You yourself demonized your own tribe as a people whose choices are not guided by reason but by tribal loyalty. Read your previous post and you'll see it there.
How exactly does my citation of Lucky Igbenedion's misrule amount to a generalization that Binis are bad leaders? Do you just enjoy deliberately misinterpreting people? Your attempt to blame Lucky Igbinedion's failure on Tony Anenih's overbearing influence is a form of self contradiction because you are everywhere here commending Obaseki's self assetion and resistance to a similarly overbearing Oshiomhole. Why couldn't Lucky assert his powers and status against Anenih as Obaseki is currently doing if Lucky truly had genuinely people oriented concern as Obaseki has and is proving it by resisting Oshiomholes's godfatherism? Stop rationalizing Lucky's failure. Lucky had all the powers in his hands to demystify Anenih for the benefit of Edo people but he chose not to use it because he too had a dubious selfish agenda. Simple.


Lucky was just a bad leader. Oshiomhole chose to fight and demystify Anenih and he succeeded. So the fear of Anenih wasn't the beginning of wisdom anywhere but rather the beginning of foolishness. Likewise, Obaseki has chosen to demystify Oshiomhole whose fear is assumed to be the beginning of wisdom in APC currently. And with Edo people already queueing behind him (Obaseki), he will record success the same way Oshiomhole did recorded against Anenih. Stop manufacturing watery excuses for Lucky. He was simply a failure.



You alone know how you inferred that I claimed that Binis are bad administrators. On the contrary, I am rather trying to correct your assertion that Binis would vote their own regardless of poor performance.

What a way to explain away the indefensible! If Binis saw Airhiavbare as a would be extension of Lucky Igbinedion and Osunbor's rule, then how come some Binis came up with the campaign slogan of "Binis, vote your own" in obvious reference to Airhiavbare in the 2012 election?


All the above are irrelevant digressions from the thrust of the debate here. If anything, the Binis are most responsible for Oshiomhole's rise to power as Edo State Governor. Check the results of both the 2007 and 2012 elections and you will see that fact clearly. Oshiomholes' pull down of Oyegun had more Binis than Esans and Afenais at the core of the plot. So whatever Oshiomhole does against any Bini son is the Binis own fault.


That was still the Binis' fault because it was from the Binis he got the moral support to do all the despotism. Even the Edo State APC faction currently fighting Obaseki on behalf of Oshiomhole is being led by a Bini man called Samson Osagie and another called Francis Evbowan. So you can see that the resistance to Obaseki's second term is still all a Bini thing and doesn't really involve Edo North and Central which otherwise have continued to voice out support for Obaseki for nothing other than his all inclusive government and equitable distribution of infrastructural projects. Recently all the Edo North traditional rulers rose from a meeting and passed a vote of confidence on Obaseki. In fact those who campaigned most fiercely against Obaseki in the Edo 2016 election were nearly all Binis. So what exactly is your point here?


Is it not Binis Oshiomhole is using to achieve that? Check it out, those loyal to Obaseki and fighting Oshiomhole for him in the current EDHA are majorly from Edo North and Central. The speaker and his deputy who are on Obaseki's side are from Esan NE and Akoko-Edo LGAs respectively. But the Oshiomhole 15 are mostly from the Bini LGAs of the state. Even Adjoto, the immediate past speaker of EDHA, who was loyal to Obaseki and passed all his bills easily is an Edo North son. So what is your point now?


Do you honestly think that without the support Oshiomhole is enjoying from Binis like Samson Osagie and co, he would be bold enough to continue seeking godfather status over Obaseki? Even Anenih's godfatherism over Lucky had Bini sons at the root of it. Binis have always been their own problem. Simple!



Again, these are irrelevant digressions.
Meanwhile, who told you that Owans are Esans to warrant the claim above that Obaseki has won them to his side hence let's see how Edo North alone will override him? Are you sure you are really from Edo State? You don't know that Owan is part and parcel of Edo North?
Meanwhile Obaseki's strongest hold has always been Edo North. He got his highest percentage votes from Etsako West - 75% and Akoko-Edo - 69%. You don't even really understand what you are saying. You think Oshiomhole is synonymous with Edo North? We Edo North don't give our support based on ethnicism as you said of the Binis. We rather place priority on track record and demonstrated commitment to ideals. Outside Etsako Central, no where in Edo North is Oshiomhole reckoned with as a leader. The only parts of Edo State he ever enjoyed such perception hugely is the Bini areas.
You must be a commedian to credit Esans with 30% Edo State population. According to the 2016 census results, Edo South has 1.6m population, Edo North has 0.9m while Edo Central (Esans) have 0.5m.
Now through what kind of arithmetic does 0.5 million amount to 30% of the total?


You must be a jobless low life to create an epistle long enough to be a bible book like Genesis and no one will pay you for it.... you win, I give up.. why? I can't waste my time and my life reading your nonsense.. I don't get paid for it, BYE!!!!
Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by GARRIYELLOW: 3:11pm On Aug 02, 2019
ogbonti:



You must be a jobless low life to create an epistle long enough to be a bible book like Genesis and no one will pay you for it.... you win, I give up.. why? I can't waste my time and my life reading your nonsense.. I don't get paid for it, BYE!!!!

Lol

Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by Deadlytruth(m): 11:30pm On Aug 04, 2019
ogbonti:



You must be a jobless low life to create an epistle long enough to be a bible book like Genesis and no one will pay you for it.... you win, I give up.. why? I can't waste my time and my life reading your nonsense.. I don't get paid for it, BYE!!!!

I thought you said I should get ready with my popcorn and a bottle of drink for the battle? It has now become a thing of being a jobless low life for a person against whom you challenged and boasted you were ready to give him a run for his money? See yourself?

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Re: Edo House Crisis: Senate Panel Report Indicts Obaseki,gives Governor Fresh Terms by yjgm(m): 10:40pm On Aug 12, 2019
Amitez:

Which section of the constitution are you referring please? Or you just type as your brain leads you.
section 11 (3) and section 11 (4) of the constitution of the FRN was explicit on this. Do you want more?. Think about those words before you type.

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