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"Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by References: 11:16am On Sep 09, 2019
Mangosuthu Buthelezi, a politician and leader of the Zulu ethnic group, has condemned the xenophobic attacks in South Africa.

Addressing a mob which converged on Johannesburg on Sunday, Buthelezi said many African nations played key roles in the struggles of South Africa.

Armed protesters had hit the streets of Johannesburg on Sunday, asking foreigners to return to where they came from.

While speaking with them, Buthelezi said the world expects South Africans to treat other Africans as their brothers.

He said citizens of countries being attacked at the moment assisted South Africa during apartheid.

The Zulu leader recalled how ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo invited him over to Nigeria when the white minority was in power, adding that he also delivered a lecture at the 82nd birthday ceremony of Obasanjo.

Below is his full speech:

I come here today not as a politician, but as an elder. There is a terrible quarrel in our nation with foreign nationals who are living amongst us. Lives have been lost and property damaged. There has been looting and burning and violence. While all this is happening, the world is watching, and we are being judged.
I must speak very bluntly to my fellow South Africans, not to take sides, but to quell the tensions with the voice of truth.

What we have seen in the past few days is unacceptable. The attacks on foreign nationals and their businesses are purely xenophobic. It is a violation of human rights and a violation of our Constitution. Our Constitution enshrines the right to freedom from all forms of violence. That right applies to everyone in South Africa, whether citizens or not.
We cannot allow this to move in cycles. It is not the first spate of attacks; but it must be the last
I understand the tensions, the complaints and the anger. I understand that there is validity to the complaints, on both sides. I also understand that wrongs have been committed by both sides. This has not come out of nowhere.

But there is a saying in Zulu that you cannot slaughter all the sheep because one sheep has transgressed. In a situation of conflict, it is dangerous to tar everyone with the same brush. Even where there are valid complaints against an individual, we cannot take the law into our own hands. Looting and destruction of property is a crime, full stop. Assault is always wrong.
Don’t think these things have no consequences. This violence has diplomatic and economic ramifications. We have hundreds of thousands of South Africans living in countries throughout Africa. We have businesses and companies operating across this continent. We have vital trade relations within the African Union and within SADC, the Southern African Development Community. South Africa is not an island.

There will be sanctions against us for what we are doing. It started with the Zambian Football Association cancelling a soccer match against Bafana Bafana. Then Nigeria announced a boycott of the World Economic Forum on Africa being held in Cape Town. But as I feared they would, sanctions quickly turned to retaliation.

Already South African-owned companies in Nigeria have been targeted for looting and vandalism. MTN has had to close all its stores to protect staff, while the police stand guard at Shoprite stores. On Thursday our diplomatic missions in Abuja and Lagos were forced to close after threats were received. President Buhari has announced a visit to South Africa to speak to President Ramaphosa
We need to stop this thing in its tracks before serious action is taken against us. Do we really want to escalate into international conflict?

I feel ashamed. As Africans we are making ourselves a laughing stock in the rest of the world. Because the world knows what we seem so quick to forget: Africans are brothers and sisters.
In every family there are quarrels and squabbles. But the way we are behaving is shooting ourselves in the foot. We are making the name of South Africa a swear word on the continent.
This is not the first time we have had a spike of xenophobic attacks is our country. In 2008 and in 2015 lives were lost and livelihoods destroyed as communities went on the rampage against foreign nationals. I went then, too, to the communities and townships, and I spoke as I am speaking now.
But now my words are somehow different. The sentiments have not changed, but there is a sense of urgency because I fear what will happen if we fail to extinguish this fire.
The IFP has formally asked the Speaker of the National Assembly to call an urgent debate in parliament, not just to condemn xenophobia, but to hear what the state intends to do to swiftly end the violence.
We cannot allow this to move in cycles. It is not the first spate of attacks; but it must be the last.
We have been facing the rising problem of undocumented migration ever since 1994. I served as the first Minister of Home Affairs in a democratic era. For ten years my department grappled with this, trying to find a way to balance human rights with the good of the country.
I was struck even then by the number of undocumented Africans within our borders, especially from Zimbabwe, and the implications this had for our ability to create social and economic justice for South Africans. But when I pointed out our porous borders and said they need to be guarded, some people actually accused me of xenophobia, saying it was because I didn’t go into exile.
If anyone knows what our African brothers sacrificed for the sake of our struggle, it is I.
Many of the countries whose citizens were coming to South Africa had given sanctuary to our political exiles during the struggle for freedom. Being an Anglican myself, I received a letter from the Anglican Bishop of Mozambique, Bishop Dinis Sengulane, lamenting that I was not helping his people who were flocking to South Africa.
These accusations were painful, and quite misplaced. Because if anyone knows what our African brothers sacrificed for the sake of our struggle, it is I. I went myself to Zambia and Tanzania in 1974, to thank President Kaunda and President Nyerere for giving sanctuary to all our exiles. Earlier this year, I again visited His Excellency Dr Kenneth Kaunda in Zambia, and he spoke touchingly about the risks they took on our behalf. Let me quote him directly. He said:
“Prince Buthelezi, we first met in 1974 here in Lusaka when I was a leader of a young independent nation of Zambia and was honoured to be leader of the frontline states which were all newly independent states. We hosted South African political exiles and freedom fighters. (It) was a huge risk to our own freedom as a nation. Financially we could not afford this task, since Ian Smith had closed the borders for us to transport goods through Rhodesia. The security risk was enormous on our people as the apartheid regime in South Africa was becoming more and more vicious. But we had to do that historic duty for the freedom of black people. I am a very proud man that we did this and all God’s children in South Africa… are free today.”
Friends, this is our own history. African countries like Lesotho, Swaziland, Nigeria, Zambia and Tanzania took huge risks on our behalf. Is this how we repay them?
I am not saying that anyone should be able to live in South Africa if they come here illegally, or if they are illegally running a business. If they are committing crime, they are criminals like any South African would be a criminal for doing the same thing. But we cannot adopt the attitude that Africans have no right to come here, and no right to be here, if they come through legitimate channels.
I know that even this is controversial. I remember visiting Geneva for a meeting called by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. As South Africa’s Minister of Home Affairs, I discovered that many people who claim to be refugees are not refugees in the legal sense of the word. Yet due to various and very real problems in their countries, they are forced to try their luck in South Africa.
Through immigration legislation, I sought to protect South Africa, closing the door to undocumented migration while opening it to the skills our country so desperately needs. There is, for instance a shortage of doctors in South Africa, and with our failing health care system we need to welcome professional doctors from Nigeria and other countries.
I still regret the irrational hostility towards my Immigration Act when I brought it to the Cabinet of President Mbeki. We moved in the wrong direction as a country and we never resolved the rising tensions. It’s time to do that now, before it is too late.
We dare not forget or disregard all that was done for us by African leaders like His Excellency President Olusegun Obasanjo. As a member of the Commonwealth Eminent Persons Group, General Obasanjo revealed to the world the real conditions of our people under apartheid. He supported us in our stand against the regime’s plan to deprive us of our citizenship.
In fact, on the very day that Transkei took so-called independence, President Obasanjo arranged for me and my wife to be in Nigeria so that I could avoid attending Transkei’s independence ceremony. General Obasanjo invited me to Nigeria again this year, where I delivered a lecture in celebration of his 82nd birthday.
This is one of the giants of Africa. What are we doing to his people?
I have been a guest of President Hastings Banda in Malawi. I was received by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie in Ethiopia. In Addis Ababa I was received by the Under-Secretary of the OAU, Dr Peter Onu. In Liberia, President Tolbert bestowed upon me a National Order, The Knight Commander of the Star of Africa. And when the OAU bestowed a posthumous award on my mentor Inkosi Albert Luthuli, I accompanied MaNokhukanya Luthuli to Maseru to receive the award from His Majesty King Moshoeshoe II.
If we turn our despair, our anger and frustration against our brothers, we will start a feud that can only end in tragedy.
Our struggle is tied to the struggle of these countries throughout Africa. They fought colonialism just as we did. And they sacrificed to see us liberated. So when I say that we are one family, I am speaking the truth. Just recently, when my wife passed away, His Majesty the King of Lesotho paid a visit to my home to comfort me.
We are brothers in Africa.
Yes, South Africa is struggling economic hardship. Our country is in crisis. The cry of our people has not fallen on deaf ears. But if we turn our despair, our anger and frustration against our brothers, we will start a feud that can only end in tragedy. We are fighting our own family.
Friends, I am a Christian. I believe what the Bible says. It says, quite clearly:
“When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt…” (Leviticus 19 v 33 and 34)
“Let them live among you wherever they like and in whatever town they choose. Do not oppress them.” (Deuteronomy 23 v 16)
“Do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow (citizen) or a foreigner residing in one of your towns… Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice.” (Deuteronomy 24 v 14 – 17)
“Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner.” (Deuteronomy 27 v 19)
“Do not oppress… the foreigner… Do not plot evil against each other.” (Zechariah 7 v 10)
I cannot put it more clearly. This is not my instruction, but God’s. Let us be led by our moral conscience.

https://www.thecable.ng/south-african-leader-to-mob-obasanjo-is-one-of-the-giants-of-africa-what-are-we-doing-to-his-people

Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by PureGoldh(m): 11:17am On Sep 09, 2019
Fingers crossed
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Midas01: 11:26am On Sep 09, 2019
One sane person in a country of 60 millions fools

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by theenchanter: 11:29am On Sep 09, 2019
I dont know if i'm d only one fed up with these xenophobia stories.

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by dunkem21(m): 11:56am On Sep 09, 2019
Hmnnnn..
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Beface(m): 12:12pm On Sep 09, 2019
South Africans are mentally enslaved as a result of many years of white rule over them. Rather than for them to forge ahead after independence their are still looking for who to blame and since it is obvious it's no longer the white, they decided to blame fellow Africans (Foreigners) especially Nigerians. Instead of them to humble themselves and learn from us, they are busy looting, burning shops and killing us. We go always they pass them for life.

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by orisa37: 12:19pm On Sep 09, 2019
References:
Mangosuthu Buthelezi, a politician and leader of the Zulu ethnic group, has condemned the xenophobic attacks in South Africa.

Addressing a mob which converged on Johannesburg on Sunday, Buthelezi said many African nations played key roles in the struggles of South Africa.

Armed protesters had hit the streets of Johannesburg on Sunday, asking foreigners to return to where they came from.

While speaking with them, Buthelezi said the world expects South Africans to treat other Africans as their brothers.

He said citizens of countries being attacked at the moment assisted South Africa during apartheid.

The Zulu leader recalled how ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo invited him over to Nigeria when the white minority was in power, adding that he also delivered a lecture at the 82nd birthday ceremony of Obasanjo.

Below is his full speech:

I come here today not as a politician, but as an elder. There is a terrible quarrel in our nation with foreign nationals who are living amongst us. Lives have been lost and property damaged. There has been looting and burning and violence. While all this is happening, the world is watching, and we are being judged.
I must speak very bluntly to my fellow South Africans, not to take sides, but to quell the tensions with the voice of truth.

What we have seen in the past few days is unacceptable. The attacks on foreign nationals and their businesses are purely xenophobic. It is a violation of human rights and a violation of our Constitution. Our Constitution enshrines the right to freedom from all forms of violence. That right applies to everyone in South Africa, whether citizens or not.
We cannot allow this to move in cycles. It is not the first spate of attacks; but it must be the last
I understand the tensions, the complaints and the anger. I understand that there is validity to the complaints, on both sides. I also understand that wrongs have been committed by both sides. This has not come out of nowhere.

But there is a saying in Zulu that you cannot slaughter all the sheep because one sheep has transgressed. In a situation of conflict, it is dangerous to tar everyone with the same brush. Even where there are valid complaints against an individual, we cannot take the law into our own hands. Looting and destruction of property is a crime, full stop. Assault is always wrong.
Don’t think these things have no consequences. This violence has diplomatic and economic ramifications. We have hundreds of thousands of South Africans living in countries throughout Africa. We have businesses and companies operating across this continent. We have vital trade relations within the African Union and within SADC, the Southern African Development Community. South Africa is not an island.

There will be sanctions against us for what we are doing. It started with the Zambian Football Association cancelling a soccer match against Bafana Bafana. Then Nigeria announced a boycott of the World Economic Forum on Africa being held in Cape Town. But as I feared they would, sanctions quickly turned to retaliation.

Already South African-owned companies in Nigeria have been targeted for looting and vandalism. MTN has had to close all its stores to protect staff, while the police stand guard at Shoprite stores. On Thursday our diplomatic missions in Abuja and Lagos were forced to close after threats were received. President Buhari has announced a visit to South Africa to speak to President Ramaphosa
We need to stop this thing in its tracks before serious action is taken against us. Do we really want to escalate into international conflict?

I feel ashamed. As Africans we are making ourselves a laughing stock in the rest of the world. Because the world knows what we seem so quick to forget: Africans are brothers and sisters.
In every family there are quarrels and squabbles. But the way we are behaving is shooting ourselves in the foot. We are making the name of South Africa a swear word on the continent.
This is not the first time we have had a spike of xenophobic attacks is our country. In 2008 and in 2015 lives were lost and livelihoods destroyed as communities went on the rampage against foreign nationals. I went then, too, to the communities and townships, and I spoke as I am speaking now.
But now my words are somehow different. The sentiments have not changed, but there is a sense of urgency because I fear what will happen if we fail to extinguish this fire.
The IFP has formally asked the Speaker of the National Assembly to call an urgent debate in parliament, not just to condemn xenophobia, but to hear what the state intends to do to swiftly end the violence.
We cannot allow this to move in cycles. It is not the first spate of attacks; but it must be the last.
We have been facing the rising problem of undocumented migration ever since 1994. I served as the first Minister of Home Affairs in a democratic era. For ten years my department grappled with this, trying to find a way to balance human rights with the good of the country.
I was struck even then by the number of undocumented Africans within our borders, especially from Zimbabwe, and the implications this had for our ability to create social and economic justice for South Africans. But when I pointed out our porous borders and said they need to be guarded, some people actually accused me of xenophobia, saying it was because I didn’t go into exile.
If anyone knows what our African brothers sacrificed for the sake of our struggle, it is I.
Many of the countries whose citizens were coming to South Africa had given sanctuary to our political exiles during the struggle for freedom. Being an Anglican myself, I received a letter from the Anglican Bishop of Mozambique, Bishop Dinis Sengulane, lamenting that I was not helping his people who were flocking to South Africa.
These accusations were painful, and quite misplaced. Because if anyone knows what our African brothers sacrificed for the sake of our struggle, it is I. I went myself to Zambia and Tanzania in 1974, to thank President Kaunda and President Nyerere for giving sanctuary to all our exiles. Earlier this year, I again visited His Excellency Dr Kenneth Kaunda in Zambia, and he spoke touchingly about the risks they took on our behalf. Let me quote him directly. He said:
“Prince Buthelezi, we first met in 1974 here in Lusaka when I was a leader of a young independent nation of Zambia and was honoured to be leader of the frontline states which were all newly independent states. We hosted South African political exiles and freedom fighters. (It) was a huge risk to our own freedom as a nation. Financially we could not afford this task, since Ian Smith had closed the borders for us to transport goods through Rhodesia. The security risk was enormous on our people as the apartheid regime in South Africa was becoming more and more vicious. But we had to do that historic duty for the freedom of black people. I am a very proud man that we did this and all God’s children in South Africa… are free today.”
Friends, this is our own history. African countries like Lesotho, Swaziland, Nigeria, Zambia and Tanzania took huge risks on our behalf. Is this how we repay them?
I am not saying that anyone should be able to live in South Africa if they come here illegally, or if they are illegally running a business. If they are committing crime, they are criminals like any South African would be a criminal for doing the same thing. But we cannot adopt the attitude that Africans have no right to come here, and no right to be here, if they come through legitimate channels.
I know that even this is controversial. I remember visiting Geneva for a meeting called by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. As South Africa’s Minister of Home Affairs, I discovered that many people who claim to be refugees are not refugees in the legal sense of the word. Yet due to various and very real problems in their countries, they are forced to try their luck in South Africa.
Through immigration legislation, I sought to protect South Africa, closing the door to undocumented migration while opening it to the skills our country so desperately needs. There is, for instance a shortage of doctors in South Africa, and with our failing health care system we need to welcome professional doctors from Nigeria and other countries.
I still regret the irrational hostility towards my Immigration Act when I brought it to the Cabinet of President Mbeki. We moved in the wrong direction as a country and we never resolved the rising tensions. It’s time to do that now, before it is too late.
We dare not forget or disregard all that was done for us by African leaders like His Excellency President Olusegun Obasanjo. As a member of the Commonwealth Eminent Persons Group, General Obasanjo revealed to the world the real conditions of our people under apartheid. He supported us in our stand against the regime’s plan to deprive us of our citizenship.
In fact, on the very day that Transkei took so-called independence, President Obasanjo arranged for me and my wife to be in Nigeria so that I could avoid attending Transkei’s independence ceremony. General Obasanjo invited me to Nigeria again this year, where I delivered a lecture in celebration of his 82nd birthday.
This is one of the giants of Africa. What are we doing to his people?
I have been a guest of President Hastings Banda in Malawi. I was received by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie in Ethiopia. In Addis Ababa I was received by the Under-Secretary of the OAU, Dr Peter Onu. In Liberia, President Tolbert bestowed upon me a National Order, The Knight Commander of the Star of Africa. And when the OAU bestowed a posthumous award on my mentor Inkosi Albert Luthuli, I accompanied MaNokhukanya Luthuli to Maseru to receive the award from His Majesty King Moshoeshoe II.
If we turn our despair, our anger and frustration against our brothers, we will start a feud that can only end in tragedy.
Our struggle is tied to the struggle of these countries throughout Africa. They fought colonialism just as we did. And they sacrificed to see us liberated. So when I say that we are one family, I am speaking the truth. Just recently, when my wife passed away, His Majesty the King of Lesotho paid a visit to my home to comfort me.
We are brothers in Africa.
Yes, South Africa is struggling economic hardship. Our country is in crisis. The cry of our people has not fallen on deaf ears. But if we turn our despair, our anger and frustration against our brothers, we will start a feud that can only end in tragedy. We are fighting our own family.
Friends, I am a Christian. I believe what the Bible says. It says, quite clearly:
“When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt…” (Leviticus 19 v 33 and 34)
“Let them live among you wherever they like and in whatever town they choose. Do not oppress them.” (Deuteronomy 23 v 16)
“Do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow (citizen) or a foreigner residing in one of your towns… Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice.” (Deuteronomy 24 v 14 – 17)
“Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner.” (Deuteronomy 27 v 19)
“Do not oppress… the foreigner… Do not plot evil against each other.” (Zechariah 7 v 10)
I cannot put it more clearly. This is not my instruction, but God’s. Let us be led by our moral conscience.

https://www.thecable.ng/south-african-leader-to-mob-obasanjo-is-one-of-the-giants-of-africa-what-are-we-doing-to-his-people
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This Prophet is being honoured from abroad.
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 12:38pm On Sep 09, 2019
mike404:
LOOK AT HOW SOMEONE THAT IS NOT EVEN À NIGERIAN IS TRYING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPACT OF OBASANJO LEADERSHIP ROLE IN AFRICA WHILE HIS PEOPLE (YORUBA) ARE DOING EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO BRING HIM DOWN.

HAS THE FROG EYED MAN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE XENOPHOBIC ATTACKS IN S A

OYORUBA NDO NU

You people should shut up and refrain from your constant obsession of using everything to rubbish Yorubas. Yorubas, unlike others in Nigeria like you, reason without recourse to sentiments and emotions. We are not swayed by propaganda, pretence and 419 leadership the likes of OBJ have mastered. OBJ concocted an image of 'visionary leader' on the international stage yet what is his real achievement at home that South Africans and Britons are not aware of yet his Yoruba kinsmen know well and were a direct victim of?

Firstly OBJ began the demise of modern Nigeria when he schemed out the visionary and ultra-competent Awolowo for the impotent and clueless Shagari who never sought to lead and was just a conduit for the looting of our commonwealth. We all remember OBJ did same with the Unpresidential GEJ who would have been content drinking ogogoro on his porch rather than taking on the complexity of Presiding over Nigeria. GEJ's boss, i.e Yar Adua, that OBJ callously foisted on Nigeria, when other competent leaders were plentiful, shows how cruel and sadistic your 'hero' is with his action of endorsing a dying and distracted man as President so he, OBJ, could continue ruling by proxy in the background.

We then move to OBJ's reign as President. The corruption him and Atiku supervised, like $16 billion abracadabra for power supply, is best forgotten. This is before we even go into how OBJ imposed killers and looting gangsters as PDP Governors and leaders of all South Western States bar Lagos Tinubu managed to hold on to. Who does not remember the menace called Lamidi Adedibu that OBJ hailed a 'Generallisimo' ?

It really is shameful that you guys have to be given a history lesson daily because of your hatred of Yorubas that prevent you seeing we are the most rational and most objective thinkers in Nigeria today. That OBJ fools the entire world bar his own Yoruba folks is testimony to the political sophistication of the average Yoruba. While foreigners can be forgiven over their worship of the 419 master called OBJ what is the excuse of Nigerians like you who should be aware of what OBJ has done to ruin Nigeria more than any other leader in our history post independence?

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 12:52pm On Sep 09, 2019
orisa37:
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This Prophet is being honoured from abroad.

South Africans can be excused for their ignorance considering OBJ only showed them a side of his persona that was not detrimental to them personally. What is your excuse, as a Nigerian, when OBJ took you backwards with his looting, corruption and gangster "do-or-die" politics? The $16 billion him and Atiku looted for power is not a regret for you personally considering you and yours are still 'enjoying' epileptic power supply today you are happy to blame PMB and Fashola for?

Nigerians followers are the problem of Nigeria and not leaders in my opinion. OBJ is the worst President Nigeria has had bar non and I am talking from when he was military head of State and he rigged Shagari into power to when he became democratic ruler in 1999 to supervise the looting of Nigeria while even seeking a third term so he could become a Nigerian Mugabe.

Ojukwu once said OBJ deserves to be taken to the back of his house and shot. Not sure I disagree , knowing the monumental damage OBJ did to Nigeria, with that comment even as I am against the summary killing of human beings. The destruction of Nigeria, over the past 50 years, can mainly be linked to OBJ more than most other leaders and I am ashamed of him as a Yoruba man.

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by GoodofNaija: 1:04pm On Sep 09, 2019
candidtalk:


You people should shut up and refrain from your constant obsession of using everything to rubbish Yorubas. Yorubas, unlike others in Nigeria like you, reason without recourse to sentiments and emotions. We are not swayed by propaganda, pretence and 419 leadership the likes of OBJ have mastered. OBJ concocted an image of 'visionary leader' on the international stage yet what is his real achievement at home that South Africans and Britons are not aware of yet his Yoruba kinsmen know well and were a direct victim of?

Firstly OBJ began the demise of modern Nigeria when he schemed out the visionary and ultra-competent Awolowo for the impotent and clueless Shagari who never sought to lead and was just a conduit for the looting of our commonwealth. We all remember OBJ did same with the Unpresidential GEJ who would have been content drinking ogogoro on his porch rather than taking on the complexity of Presiding over Nigeria. GEJ's boss, i.e Yar Adua, that OBJ callously foisted on Nigeria, when other competent leaders were plentiful, shows how cruel and sadistic your 'hero' is with his action of endorsing a dying and distracted man as President so he, OBJ, could continue ruling by proxy in the background.

We then move to OBJ's reign as President. The corruption him and Atiku supervised, like $16 billion abracadabra for power supply, is best forgotten. This is before we even go into how OBJ imposed killers and looting gangsters as PDP Governors and leaders of all South Western States bar Lagos Tinubu managed to hold on to. Who does not remember the menace called Lamidi Adedibu that OBJ hailed a 'Generallisimo' ?

It really is shameful that you guys have to be given a history lesson daily because of your hatred of Yorubas that prevent you seeing we are the most rational and most objective thinkers in Nigeria today. That OBJ fools the entire world bar his own Yoruba folks is testimony to the political sophistication of the average Yoruba. While foreigners can be forgiven over their worship of the 419 master called OBJ what is the excuse of Nigerians like you who should be aware of what OBJ has done to ruin Nigeria more than any other leader in our history post independence?

Candidtalk = Rubbish talk

You are the one who should shut up and go ask your elders how you came about having GSM to be writing the rubbish you are writing.

If you have elders they would have told you OBj govt is the best Nigeria ever had.

Instead of displaying stupidity online, you should go back to your school and learn history.

Brainwashed Zombie!!!

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Area4Area: 1:24pm On Sep 09, 2019
candidtalk:


You people should shut up and refrain from your constant obsession of using everything to rubbish Yorubas. Yorubas, unlike others in Nigeria like you, reason without recourse to sentiments and emotions. We are not swayed by propaganda, pretence and 419 leadership the likes of OBJ have mastered. OBJ concocted an image of 'visionary leader' on the international stage yet what is his real achievement at home that South Africans and Britons are not aware of yet his Yoruba kinsmen know well and were a direct victim of?

Firstly OBJ began the demise of modern Nigeria when he schemed out the visionary and ultra-competent Awolowo for the impotent and clueless Shagari who never sought to lead and was just a conduit for the looting of our commonwealth. We all remember OBJ did same with the Unpresidential GEJ who would have been content drinking ogogoro on his porch rather than taking on the complexity of Presiding over Nigeria. GEJ's boss, i.e Yar Adua, that OBJ callously foisted on Nigeria, when other competent leaders were plentiful, shows how cruel and sadistic your 'hero' is with his action of endorsing a dying and distracted man as President so he, OBJ, could continue ruling by proxy in the background.

We then move to OBJ's reign as President. The corruption him and Atiku supervised, like $16 billion abracadabra for power supply, is best forgotten. This is before we even go into how OBJ imposed killers and looting gangsters as PDP Governors and leaders of all South Western States bar Lagos Tinubu managed to hold on to. Who does not remember the menace called Lamidi Adedibu that OBJ hailed a 'Generallisimo' ?

It really is shameful that you guys have to be given a history lesson daily because of your hatred of Yorubas that prevent you seeing we are the most rational and most objective thinkers in Nigeria today. That OBJ fools the entire world bar his own Yoruba folks is testimony to the political sophistication of the average Yoruba. While foreigners can be forgiven over their worship of the 419 master called OBJ what is the excuse of Nigerians like you who should be aware of what OBJ has done to ruin Nigeria more than any other leader in our history post independence?
There are some kids here you don't quote because it gives them a sense of importance, just go through their posts, smile and move on.
They are not worth the stress or your time for any reason

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Onoroyiza(m): 2:26pm On Sep 09, 2019
The South Africans are just lucky that we the Nigerians have not taken a very serious action with them or else they would have know that "We Are The Giant And Heart Of Africa".

They could have known why they call us The Black Men with different talents and styles.

Irritating Fools.
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 09, 2019
GoodofNaija:


Candidtalk = Rubbish talk

You are the one who should shut up and go ask your elders how you came about having GSM to be writing the rubbish you are writing.

If you have elders they would have told you OBj govt is the best Nigeria ever had.

Instead of displaying stupidity online, you should go back to your school and learn history.

Brainwashed Zombie!!!

You are such a slowpoke. Are you saying GSM would not have arrived Nigeria minus OBJ? Did he invent the technology or just facilitated, as any leader of the day would do, the dissemination of the licence to allow ISP's and network suppliers of GSM to operate in Nigeria? You are such a cretin and folks like you are the reason Nigerian leaders abuse you. Why don't you argue also that cars would not be in Nigeria today if the leaders of the day back then did not allow their importation from where they are produced?

I am tired of crudely unintelligent folks like you as you are the problem of Nigeria. Fools like you carry the OBJ GSM thingy on your head without realising that someone has to supervise the delivery of technology the world is already working with that African nations must embrace or be left ignorant of. If OBJ, by virtue of being President, rejected disbursing GSM licenses, do you think it would not have happened after him and under Yar Adua/GEJ? Why don't you credit OBJ too with the creation of Facebook, Instagram and twitter too. Mumu worshipper and olodo.

Ask yourself why OBJ is a hero to you and not to his own Yoruba folks today, like Awolowo, if the saying that " a good name is worth more more than riches" really holds true. Why does OBJ not have a good name as Awolowo, Solarin, Fawehinmi, Fela and many Yoruba icons have today in the heart of Yorubas if not that we see him for the fraud and saboteur he is that only Yoruba haters like you will celebrate. The Yorubas are not two-faced or deceitful. We don't reject our genuine heroes/Omoluabis and we don't celebrate Omo ales like others do .

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 3:22pm On Sep 09, 2019
Area4Area:
There are some kids here you don't quote because it gives them a sense of importance, just go through their posts, smile and move on.
They are not worth the stress or your time for any reason

Have to agree with you. Look at the slowpoke above crediting GSM to OBJ. They are making solar/electric hybrid cars worldwide now as a staple. So the Nigerian President who is in office when the importation of solar/electric hybrid cars gains official licensed regulation approval should be thanked for "dashing" Nigeria Solar/electric hybrid vehicles when we don't produce these cars ourselves and are merely end users?

I see why Nigerian leaders have disdain for those they lead. Proper to celebrate OBJ commissioning the development of a 100% Nigerian attempt to create and install GSM technology that is entirely indigenous from start to finish. Savvy citizens, who will demand and get more from leaders do not make messiahs of leaders who issue licenses for technology created abroad that would get to us in the end anyway regardless of who is in power.

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by ourkobo: 3:23pm On Sep 09, 2019
theenchanter:
I dont know if i'm d only one fed up with these xenophobia stories.

Yes you are
Maybe you didn't lose anyone
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Sirjamo: 3:44pm On Sep 09, 2019
mike404:
LOOK AT HOW SOMEONE THAT IS NOT EVEN À NIGERIAN IS TRYING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPACT OF OBASANJO LEADERSHIP ROLE IN AFRICA WHILE HIS PEOPLE (YORUBA) ARE DOING EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO BRING HIM DOWN.

HAS THE FROG EYED MAN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE XENOPHOBIC ATTACKS IN S A

OYORUBA NDO NU
We dash you Obasanjo, come and carry him to Nnewi.
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by GoodofNaija: 3:54pm On Sep 09, 2019
candidtalk:


You are such a slowpoke. Are you saying GSM would not have arrived Nigeria minus OBJ? Did he invent the technology or just facilitated, as any leader of the day would do, the dissemination of the licence to allow ISP's and network suppliers of GSM to operate in Nigeria? You are such a cretin and folks like you are the reason Nigerian leaders abuse you. Why don't you argue also that cars would not be in Nigeria today if the leaders of the day back then did not allow their importation from where they are produced?

I am tired of crudely unintelligent folks like you as you are the problem of Nigeria. Fools like you carry the OBJ GSM thingy on your head without realising that someone has to supervise the delivery of technology the world is already working with that African nations must embrace or be left ignorant of. If OBJ, by virtue of being President, rejected disbursing GSM licenses, do you think it would not have happened after him and under Yar Adua/GEJ? Why don't you credit OBJ too with the creation of Facebook, Instagram and twitter too. Mumu worshipper and olodo.

Ask yourself why OBJ is a hero to you and not to his own Yoruba folks today, like Awolowo, if the saying that " a good name is worth more more than riches" really holds true. Why does OBJ not have a good name as Awolowo, Solarin, Fawehinmi, Fela and many Yoruba icons have today in the heart of Yorubas if not that we see him for the fraud and saboteur he is that only Yoruba haters like you will celebrate. The Yorubas are not two-faced or deceitful. We don't reject our genuine heroes/Omoluabis and we don't celebrate Omo ales like others do .

I say shut up foolish kid!

Is it your bullion van thief and your slow poke in aso rock that you want us to be worshipping.

Or is it RUGA and herdsmen you want us to be counting as achievement!

How many Yoruba will be a Cow like you!

Yoruba/Omoluabi are educated civilized people. You are on your own as a cow!

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 4:20pm On Sep 09, 2019
GoodofNaija:


I say shut up foolish kid!

Is it your bullion van thief and your slow poke in aso rock that you want us to be worshipping.

Or is it RUGA and herdsmen you want us to be counting as achievement!

How many Yoruba will be a Cow like you!

Yoruba/Omoluabi are educated civilized people. You are on your own as a cow!



If I am a 'foolish kid' then you are certainly an agbaya and worthless adult. Nigeria manufactures not much to move our people forward and you are here arguing we should make OBJ a messiah , next to God, for issuing licences for GSM technology 100% created and refined abroad that would have gotten to Nigeria with or without OBJ. Do you see why you are still a failure and loser? Idiots like you are still happy to eat once a day while thanking your looters like OBJ who give you nothing in comparison to what you should really be worth if you are not such an azzlicker.

OBJ has a hilltop mansion he built at the cost of billions of Naira. Are you allowed to pass even a night there on the driveway let alone in one of the many rooms in the house? OBJ has one of the biggest farms in Nigeria and West Africa he bankrolled with Nigeria's money. Is your family seeing a kobo of the wealth coming from that farm? Did the immoral OBJ ask you to join in his 'session' when he slept with the wife of his own son?


$16 billion looted for electricity that a mumu like you is not seeing a megawatt of while OBJ enjoys 24/7 unblinking electricity in his hill-top mansion. That is fair ba and worth you insulting other Nigerians over? Who is the one with issues if not you that is a blind and a totally subdued slave and praise-singer of the merciless oppressor responsible for the frustration you are displaying here?

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by GavelSlam: 5:22pm On Sep 09, 2019
ourkobo:


Yes you are
Maybe you didn't lose anyone

Who did you lose?
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by GoodofNaija: 7:17pm On Sep 09, 2019
candidtalk:




If I am a 'foolish kid' then you are certainly an agbaya and worthless adult. Nigeria manufactures not much to move our people forward and you are here arguing we should make OBJ a messiah , next to God, for issuing licences for GSM technology 100% created and refined abroad that would have gotten to Nigeria with or without OBJ. Do you see why you are still a failure and loser? Idiots like you are still happy to eat once a day while thanking your looters like OBJ who give you nothing in comparison to what you should really be worth if you are not such an azzlicker.

OBJ has a hilltop mansion he built at the cost of billions of Naira. Are you allowed to pass even a night there on the driveway let alone in one of the many rooms in the house? OBJ has one of the biggest farms in Nigeria and West Africa he bankrolled with Nigeria's money. Is your family seeing a kobo of the wealth coming from that farm? Did the immoral OBJ ask you to join in his 'session' when he slept with the wife of his own son?


$16 billion looted for electricity that a mumu like you is not seeing a megawatt of while OBJ enjoys 24/7 unblinking electricity in his hill-top mansion. That is fair ba and worth you insulting other Nigerians over? Who is the one with issues if not you that is a blind and a totally subdued slave and praise-singer of the merciless oppressor responsible for the frustration you are displaying here?

You know if it was so easy to bring investors to your country, your slow poke father would have been able to bring Toyota all the way from Japan. Toyota could not listen to your slow poke father to come and set up in Nigeria despite being their largest customer.

Instead your slow poke hero is only able bring RUGA and hersdmen as his only investment in Nigeria since he became president.

Here you are slow poke son trying to rubbish another man's achievement when if your senses are complete, you would have known it takes a good leader to attract investors and investments to his country.

You would have known that it is only a good leader who would be able to get debt relief for his country. And not be acquiring more debts like your slow poke father.

If you have the smallest grey matter upstairs you would have known it takes a good leader to create jobs for his people and not job losses. You would have known, a good leader does not bring recession instead he brings economic progress.

If you are not a cow, you would not be singing d song of some fake $16 billion figure missing. When even the people who composed the song for you know they don't have any evidence of it anywhere.

If you are not empty headed, you would have first asked for the prosecution of your bullion van thief and gandollar where a movie can be made from their evidences.

Empty head son of certificate fraudster!!!

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by sevenhundred(m): 8:21pm On Sep 09, 2019
candidtalk:


You people should shut up and refrain from your constant obsession of using everything to rubbish Yorubas. Yorubas, unlike others in Nigeria like you, reason without recourse to sentiments and emotions. We are not swayed by propaganda, pretence and 419 leadership the likes of OBJ have mastered. OBJ concocted an image of 'visionary leader' on the international stage yet what is his real achievement at home that South Africans and Britons are not aware of yet his Yoruba kinsmen know well and were a direct victim of?

Firstly OBJ began the demise of modern Nigeria when he schemed out the visionary and ultra-competent Awolowo for the impotent and clueless Shagari who never sought to lead and was just a conduit for the looting of our commonwealth. We all remember OBJ did same with the Unpresidential GEJ who would have been content drinking ogogoro on his porch rather than taking on the complexity of Presiding over Nigeria. GEJ's boss, i.e Yar Adua, that OBJ callously foisted on Nigeria, when other competent leaders were plentiful, shows how cruel and sadistic your 'hero' is with his action of endorsing a dying and distracted man as President so he, OBJ, could continue ruling by proxy in the background.

We then move to OBJ's reign as President. The corruption him and Atiku supervised, like $16 billion abracadabra for power supply, is best forgotten. This is before we even go into how OBJ imposed killers and looting gangsters as PDP Governors and leaders of all South Western States bar Lagos Tinubu managed to hold on to. Who does not remember the menace called Lamidi Adedibu that OBJ hailed a 'Generallisimo' ?

It really is shameful that you guys have to be given a history lesson daily because of your hatred of Yorubas that prevent you seeing we are the most rational and most objective thinkers in Nigeria today. That OBJ fools the entire world bar his own Yoruba folks is testimony to the political sophistication of the average Yoruba. While foreigners can be forgiven over their worship of the 419 master called OBJ what is the excuse of Nigerians like you who should be aware of what OBJ has done to ruin Nigeria more than any other leader in our history post independence?
He (obj)gave you the opportunity to write this trash about him, sorry for you!!!

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Chauke(m): 4:03am On Sep 10, 2019
Onoroyiza:
The South Africans are just lucky that we the Nigerians have not taken a very serious action with them or else they would have know that "We Are The Giant And Heart Of Africa".

They could have known why they call us The Black Men with different talents and styles.

Irritating Fools.






Nigeria is a shithole of 200 million people whose leaders have pissed its petroleum wealth and they expect the world to reward them for their backwardness.
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 10:08am On Sep 10, 2019
sevenhundred:
He (obj)gave you the opportunity to write this trash about him, sorry for you!!!

People like you are the problem of Nigeria. You are brainwashed cretins worshipping your oppressor because you are not exposed and likely have no notion of how proper nations operate. You are ignorant of the sacrosanct notion of how elected politicians are servants of the people and not the other way round.

You can therefore never hold leaders accountable as you feel they are your ogas to do to you as they please. What 'opportunity' has OBJ given me you slowpoke? Do you not understand he is my elected servant and not my boss? Is he doing me any favour when Nigerians voted for him to steer their affairs rather than loot their resources and kill them? The positive future of Nigeria will not be secured with idiots like you. It is those who understand that power truly should belong to the people who will liberate Nigeria. If other Nigerians think like you do then OBJ would have had a third term today and likely gone on to be our Mugabe. Ode oshi.
Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by Nobody: 10:19am On Sep 10, 2019
GoodofNaija:


You know if it was so easy to bring investors to your country, your slow poke father would have been able to bring Toyota all the way from Japan. Toyota could not listen to your slow poke father to come and set up in Nigeria despite being their largest customer.

Instead your slow poke hero is only able bring RUGA and hersdmen as his only investment in Nigeria since he became president.

Here you are slow poke son trying to rubbish another man's achievement when if your senses are complete, you would have known it takes a good leader to attract investors and investments to his country.

You would have known that it is only a good leader who would be able to get debt relief for his country. And not be acquiring more debts like your slow poke father.

If you have the smallest grey matter upstairs you would have known it takes a good leader to create jobs for his people and not job losses. You would have known, a good leader does not bring recession instead he brings economic progress.

If you are not a cow, you would not be singing d song of some fake $16 billion figure missing. When even the people who composed the song for you know they don't have any evidence of it anywhere.

If you are not empty headed, you would have first asked for the prosecution of your bullion van thief and gandollar where a movie can be made from their evidences.

Empty head son of certificate fraudster!!!


Ode. Agbaya oshi. Don't blame you. Zero exposure means you are happy to open your mouth for so-called leaders to piss in while you even thank them for such inhumanity. You are no better than a monkey. People like you are the problem of Nigeria. You are brainwashed cretins worshipping your oppressor because you are not exposed and likely have no notion of how proper nations operate. You are ignorant of the sacrosanct notion of how elected politicians are servants of the people and not the other way round.

You can therefore never hold leaders accountable as you feel they are your ogas to do to you as they please. What 'opportunity' has OBJ given me you slowpoke? Do you not understand he is my elected servant and not my boss? did he not pledge to serve and be accountable to Nigerians when he sought their votes?

Did Nigerians vote OBJ to loot their wealth, jail and kill them plus drown their voices dictatorially because he is President
Olodo. Is OBJ doing me any favour when Nigerians voted for him to serve rather than oppress. You are a slave. The positive future of Nigeria will not be secured with idiots like you. It is those who understand that power truly should belong to the people who will liberate Nigeria.

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Re: "Obasanjo is one of Africa's giants,what are we doing to his people?"-SA leader by sevenhundred(m): 5:05pm On Sep 10, 2019
candidtalk:


People like you are the problem of Nigeria. You are brainwashed cretins worshipping your oppressor because you are not exposed and likely have no notion of how proper nations operate. You are ignorant of the sacrosanct notion of how elected politicians are servants of the people and not the other way round.

You can therefore never hold leaders accountable as you feel they are your ogas to do to you as they please. What 'opportunity' has OBJ given me you slowpoke? Do you not understand he is my elected servant and not my boss? Is he doing me any favour when Nigerians voted for him to steer their affairs rather than loot their resources and kill them? The positive future of Nigeria will not be secured with idiots like you. It is those who understand that power truly should belong to the people who will liberate Nigeria. If other Nigerians think like you do then OBJ would have had a third term today and likely gone on to be our Mugabe. Ode oshi.
people like you are the problem of this country, before obj do you think there is no gsm or internet connection in other countries? what did you do to past leaders? maybe you like it or not obj give you the opportunity to type this trash and insulting people, you can responds to issues without bitterness, olodo!!!!

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