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Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by ultron12345: 4:34pm On Oct 12, 2019
While Nigerians are complaining about how difficult and frustrating it is to do business in Nigeria, the foreigners especially the Lebanese, Indians, Chinese and even the South Africans are rushing into Nigeria to do business and they've been extremely successful at it. Many of our most successful companies are owned and operated by them.

Even the few successful Nigerian owned companies are always managed by foreigners especially Indians. Globacom and Dangote Group are both managed by Indians.

What is their secret? Is there something they're doing that Nigerians aren't doing? They arrive the country in bathroom slippers, barely able to speak English, and then they turn to dollar millionaires in a few years.

Why do businesses run by Indians, Lebanese always do better than those run by Nigerians? Is it that Nigerians are bad at business and bad managers? Are Nigerians truly lazy (physically or mentally) compared to these foreigners?

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by DWJOBScom(m): 4:43pm On Oct 12, 2019
They are doing more than business in naija
Go to some of their shops in on the island and see the cutthroat prices and yet they are there , paying salaries and burning diesel.
There’s more to it
Even the Chinese restaurant with skyline prices and yet they are are there
There’s more to it and we will get to know.
Lot of shady deals which they’ve paid the Police and some politicians to stay put

It’s not easy for the honest naija business man
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by majamajic(m): 4:46pm On Oct 12, 2019
those countries are ahead of Nigeria in business level , they has been doing business for long

besides our mentally are not same
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by OhGeeBee: 5:03pm On Oct 12, 2019
They are better cuz they use what's in the upper part of their head more than Nigerians.

They're here for business and they make sure their business is successful.

Nigerians are idiots. Majority of these foreigners pay lesser wages when compared to the hard jobs and work rate of their workers still yet our brothers will be working, worshipping them like they're their gods. Their shouting 30k up and down but foreigners that enslaves them in their own country is paying less than 20k.



N.B. Imma just brainstorminggringringrin

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Birniwa(m): 5:16pm On Oct 12, 2019
About three economic factors come in mind, below they are:

1. Indian businesses pay 15% of VAT to government while Lebanon businesses pay 11% to their government. Nigerian VAT is very relaxed compared to these two countries considering the fact that we're still paying only 5% (at least before the implementation of the new policy) which on top, excludes many commodities and services.

2. A study shows that black people tend to patronize businesses owned by whites first before their very own. This is just a psychological trick which means Nigerians will most likely patronize a business owned by an Indian or Lebanese first before their fellow Nigerians. This of course favors them in more conversions and increases sales.

3. GDP Per Capita in India is about $8500 as of 2019 while in Lebanon it's $13,000 as of same 2019.
This same measure of GDP Per Capita is a paltry $2200 as of same current year n our dear country Nigeria. This should inform you of how wealthy an average citizen of these two countries is and why they can afford to profitably run business in Nigeria.

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Zuluhead(m): 5:25pm On Oct 12, 2019
the same way nigerians are taking over businesses in some african countries, its seeing what they cant see. a bottle half empty to some is half filled to others. knowing the market demands and prices, alot of business sercets are not being taught in school and mind you business never originated from school, business originated from the street. the real business secret are not being taught in school.
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by ultron12345: 5:30pm On Oct 12, 2019
Birniwa:
About three economic factors come in mind, below they are:

1. Indian businesses pay 15% of VAT to government while Lebanon businesses pay 11% to their government. Nigerian VAT is very relaxed compared to these two countries considering the fact that we're still paying only 5% (at least before the implementation of the new policy) which on top, excludes many commodities and services.

2. A study shows that black people tend to patronize businesses owned by whites first before their very own. This is just a psychological trick which means Nigerians will most likely patronize a business owned by an Indian or Lebanese first before their fellow Nigerians. This of course favors them in more conversions and increases sales.

3. GDP Per Capita in India is about $8500 as of 2019 while in Lebanon it's $13,000 as of same 2019.
This same measure of GDP Per Capita is a paltry $2200 as of same current year n our dear country Nigeria. This should inform you of how wealthy an average citizen of these two countries is and why they can afford to profitably run business in Nigeria.

OK
Though India's GDP per capita figures you quoted are not accurate. As at 2019, India's GDP per capita is $2041. Less than Nigeria
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Kendumazy(m): 5:32pm On Oct 12, 2019
The simple question is that, they strive to make it work come what may. They came with the mindset of achieving success just like how you too go to other countries with the aim of being successful in your endeavors and you give it your best and things worked out as planned for you. The same thing is applicable to them. Have seen a Nigeria man sold his nylon production company to an India man because it's not functioning well, and low sales, an India man bought it and within two months, everything was functioning well and sales increased excellently. What we discovered that happened was that, the man didn't take maintenance of his machine serious and as such, products were substandard, material too weren't that good and lots of other factors. One thing I know all my life about India is that they don't joke with regular maintenance and servicing of their machines. Now, tell me how can such person fail if he takes other aspects serious just like his machines.
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Birniwa(m): 5:45pm On Oct 12, 2019
ultron12345:


OK
Though India's GDP per capita figures you quoted are not accurate. As at 2019, India's GDP per capita is $2041. Less than Nigeria

Not exactly, I think you quoted yours wrongly. This Wikipedia article says India's GDP Per Capita (PPP) is exactly $8,484 which I rounded up to $8,500.

Here's the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by ultron12345: 5:59pm On Oct 12, 2019
Birniwa:


Not exactly, I think you quoted yours wrongly. This Wikipedia article says India's GDP Per Capita (PPP) is exactly $8,484 which I rounded up to $8,500.

Here's the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India

Oh! Okay
I thought you were referring to nominal figures. At nominal figures, Nigeria with $2244 is a bit higher than India which is at $2199

Using the PPP figures you posted, India is rightly at $8500 while Nigeria is at $6100.

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Nobody: 6:18pm On Oct 12, 2019
Business goes beyond buying and selling... And managing one is a lot harder.... Think as a business man not as a normal nigerian...
The good business man will hire a premium employer who can handle a team of premium employees and get 40% or more profit a year than an average employer who can handle a large base of average employees who may only produce 30% or less profit a year.....

In business you pay for premium quality if you want premium results... And it's obvious most of the business training gotten here are not of premium quality....

Think like a businessman will you choose an experienced professional or an average professional....
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by blackboy(m): 6:35pm On Oct 12, 2019
I honestly doubt this. I just see its determination. They have come here to stay and live simple modest life and also create employment for Nigerians.

Their profits might not be as big as many other Nigerian owned businesses in the same line but they continue.

Our leaders should learn to invest in our country and not in Dubai or UK or USA or ......Greed is the problem. They want huge profits at one siting
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by NGRsenate: 8:48pm On Oct 12, 2019
Favoritism?

Nigerians will do anything to bring down other Nigerians in business but they always tend to favor foreigners?

Corrections are welcome..

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by debaj10: 10:21am On Oct 13, 2019
ultron12345:
While Nigerians are complaining about how difficult and frustrating it is to do business in Nigeria, the foreigners especially the Lebanese, Indians, Chinese and even the South Africans are rushing into Nigeria to do business and they've been extremely successful at it. Many of our most successful companies are owned and operated by them.

Even the few successful Nigerian owned companies are always managed by foreigners especially Indians. Globacom and Dangote Group are both managed by Indians.

What is their secret? Is there something they're doing that Nigerians aren't doing? They arrive the country in bathroom slippers, barely able to speak English, and then they turn to dollar millionaires in a few years.

Why do businesses run by Indians, Lebanese always do better than those run by Nigerians? Is it that Nigerians are bad at business and bad managers? Are Nigerians truly lazy (physically or mentally) compared to these foreigners?
when u get a loan- even from ur parents, you:
buy new suits
buy new car
do tithe
and thanksgiving
with reception
then branded evritin
ac evriwia
poppin bottles at every excuse.
hire good looks instead of brains.
and.so.on


when they get a loan:
d business plan they used bcoms their bible.
every kobo goes into making profit.
they cut down on personal expenses to pay d interest.
go to Chinatown and look for ac. some even refuse to use fan sef.
oh, and they work 7 days a week.


who do u think will b successful?
who will u as a bank give loans to-

#lazynigerianyouths?

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Nobody: 10:59am On Oct 13, 2019
Nigerians do not know how to create Businesses, Nigerians think that business is a place where you use the revenue of the business to fund their private life style. many Nigerians are lazy, also, they dont work hard, they complain and complain from Morning to Night instead of solving problems

Many Nigerians are still waiting for loans but who is gonnna give you loans when your business is not even started

The lebenese, chinese and indians, have been doing business for ages even since the 17th century, they understand the principles of business, that business is about creating processes and hustling..Nigerians do not understand that.

also many of these people are risk takers, they think long term, they live cheap while creating their businesses and reap reward in the future, nigerian want everything now now, i want to impress my friends now instead of thinking about the future.

In nigeria, if you take risk and fail, your parent, friends and society will laugh at you, destroy your self esteem, so only those who are ready to face all these consequences actually win in the long run, but only a few Nigerians are ready to do this

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Nobody: 11:02am On Oct 13, 2019
Birniwa:
About three economic factors come in mind, below they are:

1. Indian businesses pay 15% of VAT to government while Lebanon businesses pay 11% to their government. Nigerian VAT is very relaxed compared to these two countries considering the fact that we're still paying only 5% (at least before the implementation of the new policy) which on top, excludes many commodities and services.

2. A study shows that black people tend to patronize businesses owned by whites first before their very own. This is just a psychological trick which means Nigerians will most likely patronize a business owned by an Indian or Lebanese first before their fellow Nigerians. This of course favors them in more conversions and increases sales.

3. GDP Per Capita in India is about $8500 as of 2019 while in Lebanon it's $13,000 as of same 2019.
This same measure of GDP Per Capita is a paltry $2200 as of same current year n our dear country Nigeria. This should inform you of how wealthy an average citizen of these two countries is and why they can afford to profitably run business in Nigeria.

but how does these shows why these groups are successful in Nigeria.

your number 2 point is not valid at all, many Nigerians do not know whether the business they patronise is owned by a foreigner or not, they just go there and buy as long as it is cheap, this is not the US or the UK, this is Nigeria where majority of business owners are Nigerians
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by DexterousOne(m): 11:45pm On Nov 13, 2019
Kendumazy:
The simple question is that, they strive to make it work come what may. They came with the mindset of achieving success just like how you too go to other countries with the aim of being successful in your endeavors and you give it your best and things worked out as planned for you. The same thing is applicable to them. Have seen a Nigeria man sold his nylon production company to an India man because it's not functioning well, and low sales, an India man bought it and within two months, everything was functioning well and sales increased excellently. What we discovered that happened was that, the man didn't take maintenance of his machine serious and as such, products were substandard, material too weren't that good and lots of other factors. One thing I know all my life about India is that they don't joke with regular maintenance and servicing of their machines. Now, tell me how can such person fail if he takes other aspects serious just like his machines.

Another valid point
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by DexterousOne(m): 11:47pm On Nov 13, 2019
lilwetdick:
Nigerians do not know how to create Businesses, Nigerians think that business is a place where you use the revenue of the business to fund their private life style. many Nigerians are lazy, also, they dont work hard, they complain and complain from Morning to Night instead of solving problems

Many Nigerians are still waiting for loans but who is gonnna give you loans when your business is not even started

The lebenese, chinese and indians, have been doing business for ages even since the 17th century, they understand the principles of business, that business is about creating processes and hustling..Nigerians do not understand that.

also many of these people are risk takers, they think long term, they live cheap while creating their businesses and reap reward in the future, nigerian want everything now now, i want to impress my friends now instead of thinking about the future.

In nigeria, if you take risk and fail, your parent, friends and society will laugh at you, destroy your self esteem, so only those who are ready to face all these consequences actually win in the long run, but only a few Nigerians are ready to do this

I don't agree all the time with your posts

But I agree with this one
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by DexterousOne(m): 11:48pm On Nov 13, 2019
NGRsenate:
Favoritism?

Nigerians will do anything to bring down other Nigerians in business but they always tend to favor foreigners?

Corrections are welcome..


Correct

Our regulators are the biggest culprit in this behaviour
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by tomdon(m): 2:22am On Nov 14, 2019
You're wrong Op
I don't agree that they come in bathroom slippers. You're portraying them as if they come broke. Who the hell then gives them the billions to start the business? Get your facts right
They know the business, they come with money, they know that Nigeria is a fertile land in terms of population and money.
Most businesses they embark opon are mostly capital intensive with high entry and be carried out by a Nigerians but no capital and no loans

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Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by tck2000(m): 2:56pm On Jan 09, 2020
blackboy:
I honestly doubt this. I just see its determination. They have come here to stay and live simple modest life and also create employment for Nigerians.

Their profits might not be as big as many other Nigerian owned businesses in the same line but they continue.

Our leaders should learn to invest in our country and not in Dubai or UK or USA or ......Greed is the problem. They want huge profits at one siting
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by tck2000(m): 3:00pm On Jan 09, 2020
FOD dominique Puskin naijacutee please bring this to front page!
Re: Why Are Lebanese And Indians So Successful At Business In Nigeria? by Nobody: 11:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
lol many of those companies here in nigeria are off-shoot subsidiary, that why even when they are making loss their parent company over there will come to their help to make sure they stay. and we all no how will access credit here in nigeria are not the same in those country i think it will be easy for them to access funds than us in nigeria. like once sat. time mtn nigeria was lamenting off lost in profit and a time ncc charge them some amount of money for not complying and my thought was if it was globacomm how is he going to come out of the mess

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