PoliticalWitch:
Hmm

Our budget for the new year is 20billion dollars. Meanwhile, countries like the US and the UK would probably be spending more than two times that amount of education.

Meanwhile, we aren't earning enough from oil. Oil is at $60 per barrel. We need it at $139 per barrel to earn enough so as not to borrow.

Meanwhile our universites are chronically underfunded. The VC of ABU said, in a speech some two years ago that his overhead costs are N120million annually (and ABU is a very large university occupying a large landmass...so that cost might be an underestrimate). Government gives them N50million for overheads. Where is he going to get the remaining 70million.

The short term solution is fee increases, or we cut fuel subsidy and add the N450BILLION to education's budget...or we take another loan.

and politicians salary increase abi

SpecialAdviser:
Honestly, I wonder how those who are proud of being Nigerians manage to survive their mental state.

I personally have always been angry being born a Nigerian.
UNN used to have a hostel where you defecate on already piled up sh***ts as at 1999 when I schooled there.
Just recently I asked my juvenile cousin who stay in one of the hostels and he said it is even worse.

I honestly dont know how people really do defend Nigeria and form patriotic. Nigeria is the most useless something I have ever seen on earth becus the country has money but has foolishness as her priority!

I schooled in UNN and we graduated in 2013 and we used same toilet where we poo on top of poos! It was horrible state of my life. Nigerians were short changed by nature. It is crime to be born here.

Ruggedniggaone:
and politicians salary increase abi

Yes, we could cut the polticans salary...but the problem is, at best it would just give us N500billion naira. At best.

Meanhwile, we need, according to the ASUU-FG agreement of 2009...some 1.5 trillion naira in annual extra funding for universites. (and the sum has gone up since we have established more government run universites since 2009)

Why not patient a bit? I thought they appointed a new VC?

PoliticalWitch:


Yes, we could cut the polticans salary...but the problem is, at best it would just give us N500billion naira. At best.

Meanhwile, we need, according to the ASUU-FG agreement of 2009...some 1.5 trillion naira in annual extra funding for universites. (and the sum has gone up since we have established more government run universites since 2009)

or maybe we bit the bullet and come to the reality that it is no longer feasible to make university education free for everybody.
there are too many people who have no business being in a university.

emkz:


I couldn't help but reply to you.

In the long run, it is inefficient for the government to fund universities. Every university must fund itself, and I have argued that the easiest way is through fees, before government grants and commercialising research output. The fees charged in the UK, US, Australia and Canada reflect the cost per student. Subsidising education in a large population like ours is daft. It is unsustainable.

That's what I keep saying...but the problem is, saying such in Nigeria means you support the 'opression of poor Nigerians'.

(And to be frank, some university students enter university here broke. I know one guy, who in 2004 got admission and had only N2000 at hand. Meanwhile his fees at the time were N17-18000 naira. Anyway, the guy graduated sucessfully..and is doing well. One of my mates got admitted to read medicine. Had to defer admission because no money.).

The truth is, Nigeria is going to have to increase fees. The problem is, the opposition is great to it, because truthfully, many potential students are poor.

emkz:


I couldn't help but reply to you.

In the long run, it is inefficient for the government to fund universities. Every university must fund itself, and I have argued that the easiest way is through fees, before government grants and commercialising research output. The fees charged in the UK, US, Australia and Canada reflect the cost per student. Subsidising education in a large population like ours is daft. It is unsustainable.

I wholesomely agree with you. The problem is that any government that take the step of removing subsidy on education will be committing a political suicide, which is more important to those that govern us. The nation has been bastardized on the alter of selfish interest and the ignorance of most Nigerians is abetting it.

Bbbwings:

I knew it
It-is-not-peculiar-to-Nigeria crew member
Scandinavian countries susidize education for their citizens

I agree with you bro.Especially at your last statement

We are more blessed with Natural and Mineral Resources than most of these Scandinavian countries if not all of them (yea, you heard me right, all of them).

We have not been harnessing these resources. And from the crude oil industry, what we see is massive theft and corruption. The other day (last week thereabouts) the EFCC uncovered massive looting in the power industry where one individual cornered over 2 billion Naira (or even 20 billion) to himself after collecting the money, he didn't honour the contract he was paid to do. Now, why would power failure not be persistent?

ornicus:


or maybe we bit the bullet and come to the reality that it is no longer feasible to make university education free for everybody.
there are too many people who have no business being in a university.

Yes that's the harsh truth...and anytime I make this argument you have made...I recall the number of very poor but gifted students who went to university with me who were really broke...and who if fees were not low, might have ended up like one security personell at my dad's former working place....passed SSCE with straight A, could not go to unviersity because father was a really really poor village farmer)...and to be honest, it does make me feel uncomfortable.

But let's be frank, it is either we face the cold reality...or our universites are going to be broke, and are going to turn out poor quality graduates as a result. ...while the rich kids flee to the new private universites. (which are catching up to the public ones.) And the poor we want to help would suffer.

PoliticalWitch:


Yes that's the harsh truth...and anytime I make this argument you have made...I recall the number of very poor but gifted students who went to university with me who were really broke...and who if fees were not low, might have ended up like one security personell at my dad's former working place....passed SSCE with straight A, could not go to unviersity because father was a really really poor village farmer)...and to be honest, it does make me feel uncomfortable.

But let's be frank, it is either we face the cold reality...or our universites are going to be broke, and are going to turn out poor quality graduates as a result. ...while the rich kids flee to the new private universites. (which are catching up to the public ones.) And the poor we want to help would suffer.

Bro, there can be scheme to support this category of students in the form of scholarship. However, I reckon the last time we had such development-oriented and transparent scholarship scheme for Nigerians are gone. This is the fault of successive government in the country. Let us tell ourselves the bitter truth, education is expensive. What you pay for is what you get. It is not cheap in most universities abroad too.

Okwyjesus:


Bro you are a Super Lion indeed. That's what make you Super.
My experience was terrible. One day l went to bath but was pressed. l managed to climb the loads to do the needful in the piles of Shi**. But the worst happened. My leg mistakenly slipped into the mess. l was like this leg need to be cut off. l washed and washed and washed.
Then l choose to be doing it in the bush.

After they will be signing Hail Varsity of Nigeria, my Alma Mater for Princess Alexandra Hall.
Abeggggg

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My alma mater,hail Una o!

PoliticalWitch:


Yes that's the harsh truth...and anytime I make this argument you have made...[b]I recall the number of very poor but gifted students who went to university with me who were really broke...[/b]and who if fees were not low, might have ended up like one security personell at my dad's former working place....passed SSCE with straight A, could not go to unviersity because father was a really really poor village farmer)...and to be honest, it does make me feel uncomfortable.

But let's be frank, it is either we face the cold reality...or our universites are going to be broke, and are going to turn out poor quality graduates as a result. ...while the rich kids flee to the new private universites. (which are catching up to the public ones.) And the poor we want to help would suffer.

True that. all i have to do is look at some peoples DPs in my uni group. OBJ was the only good thing that came out of PDP. the OBJ years ELEVATED people. so many of my classmates entered telco and are now FRESH. but it is no longer sustainable. and making school expensive might reduce the cult problem

Bbbwings:

I knew it
It-is-not-peculiar-to-Nigeria crew member
Scandinavian countries susidize education for their citizens

All the Nordic countries put together have a population that is barely ten percent of Nigeria's population. So subsidising education for a huge number of students is unsustainable. Ask Soludo and Bismark Rewane if I am lying.

In case you are also not aware, Sweden has started charging fees for international students.

I am not anti-development, I am looking for solutions. Let's change the mindset of focusing on the problems. When we find solutions, making money becomes automatic.

Find out how the universities in South Korea are driving national development. Which university in Nigeria has taken up research in the efficacy of agbo jedi jedi to enhance sexual performance and commercalizing it? But men would rather buy viagrs. When one Lebanese see am now commercialise, we'd shout there are no jobs, when jobs are looking at us everyday.

I'm embarrassed by this display of ILLITERACY

Why block a main highway because of an internal matter??

They should all be expelled

asunmoGGMU:


Bro, there can be scheme to support this category of students in the form of scholarship. However, I reckon the last time we had such development-oriented and transparent scholarship scheme for Nigerians are gone. This is the fault of successive government in the country. Let us tell ourselves the bitter truth, education is expensive. What you pay for is what you get. It is not cheap in most universities abroad too.

You guys always shout how schools in abroad is very expensive but fail to mention the standard of living of the citizens living abroad. Minimum wage in Nigeria is 18k, which is not stable. A governor may decide not to pay his workers for 2 years and nothing will happen. Arebgeshola was paying his workers half payment for years. Just imagine someone earning 18k but was giving half payment, which is 9k. Please, what is he going to use it for? Can that even feed him and his family for two weeks talk more of paying 1 million naira for school fees?

If ordinary citizens could have this mentality without considering poor people or the civil servants that the government are treating bad, then we really deserve the kind of our leaders. We are perfect for each other.

SpecialAdviser:
Honestly, I wonder how those who are proud of being Nigerians manage to survive their mental state.

I personally have always been angry being born a Nigerian.
UNN used to have a hostel where you defecate on already piled up sh***ts as at 1999 when I schooled there.
Just recently I asked my juvenile cousin who stay in one of the hostels and he said it is even worse.

please which of the hostel are you reffering to?

Korllami007:


You guys always shout how schools in abroad is very expensive but fail to mention the standard of living of the citizens living abroad. Minimum wage in Nigeria is 18k, which is not stable. A governor may decide not to pay his workers for 2 years and nothing will happen. Arebgeshola was paying his workers half payment for years. Just imagine someone earning 18k but was giving half payment, which is 9k. Please, what is he going to use it for? Can that even feed him and his family for two weeks talk more of paying 1 million naira for school fees?

If ordinary citizens could have this mentality without considering poor people or the civil servants that the government are treating bad, then we really deserve the kind of our leaders. We are perfect for each other.

Bro, I am not in for this back and forth. As you can see, I gave government their fair share. Don't explain to me what the government did wrong or bad. We have been having successive visionless governments since the 70s. So, I don't need your explanation on that. Which of the government has done anything good for the masses? All of them are mad, so don't bring one person's name to this discourse as if the rest are any good. By the way, you hardly see any government owe academic/university lecturers salaries.

The point I am driving is that EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE!

Until y'all realize that fact, we will be deep in this mess. I am not rich too and I am not trying to be egoistic. Please!

And they can't protest invasion of their school by EFCC.

Okwyjesus:


Bro you are a Super Lion indeed. That's what make you Super.
My experience was terrible. One day l went to bath but was pressed. l managed to climb the loads to do the needful in the piles of Shi**. But the worst happened. My leg mistakenly slipped into the mess. l was like this leg need to be cut off. l washed and washed and washed.
Then l choose to be doing it in the bush.

After they will be signing Hail Varsity of Nigeria, my Alma Mater for Princess Alexandra Hall.
Abeggggg

u just come narrate the whole scenario sha. haba u for just no go in details as u come make remember those fvcked up toilets wen i been dey those hostel. but those women they really try in cleaning that sh*t

OP. Please check this info very well. I thought the VC is now a female why then did you refuse to take that into consideration.

A305:
I love and miss UNIBEN, Sitting back and reminiscing about those years of going to Green Park and GTB to charge, Night class at Agric and Law faculty, the fashion show by mostly girls around faculty car park. The drivers who always call Hall4/law/basement as if it's one busstop.

How can I forget those live saving fried rice, beans and plantan and pounded yam sold in food court but when you want to impress babe, you take cab to Mat-Ice but be ready to drink garri after that lol.

Welcome to UNIBEN where Elegibilty is more important than your B.Sc certificate.

I love that school and would attend again if am to go for a first degree in my next life.

even now wey electricity and water no dey?

Ekhare:
OP. Please check this info very well. I thought the VC is now a female why then did you refuse to take that into consideration.

She is yet to assume office, Prof. F.F.O Orumwense is still in charge till November 30.
The new VC will be sworn in December 2.

Thank you.

Nigeria Educational system ia getting worse by the day. We need total overhaullling of all system

SpecialAdviser:
Honestly, I wonder how those who are proud of being Nigerians manage to survive their mental state.

I personally have always been angry being born a Nigerian.
UNN used to have a hostel where you defecate on already piled up sh***ts as at 1999 when I schooled there.
Just recently I asked my juvenile cousin who stay in one of the hostels and he said it is even worse.

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Jeez! In 2006 Sir Mbanefo was tug of shit, I wonder actually when those Hostels in that citadel had glorious living; if it was this way in 1999.

hekkyboi:

please which of the hostel are you reffering to?

Mbanefo, Eni Njoku ,Alvan Ikoku. All Franco male hostels.

In 2004, we held this type of protest for this same type of issue.
This is 2019! 15 years later. No progress. Which way Naija

With the way things are going in this Country very soon Rwanda will have a high influx of Nigerians

cutievik:
It's sad we have one of the worse V.Cs the University of Benin has ever produced...A man that lacks the ability to construct good sentences....we dey see shege for here!

lol have u heard him speak before?

A305:
I love and miss UNIBEN, Sitting back and reminiscing about those years of going to Green Park and GTB to charge, Night class at Agric and Law faculty, the fashion show by mostly girls around faculty car park. The drivers who always call Hall4/law/basement as if it's one busstop.

How can I forget those live saving fried rice, beans and plantan and pounded yam sold in food court but when you want to impress babe, you take cab to Mat-Ice but be ready to drink garri after that lol.

Welcome to UNIBEN where Elegibilty is more important than your B.Sc certificate.

I love that school and would attend again if am to go for a first degree in my next life.

omor na GTB ane Green Park dey bail us out oh.

Ekhare:
OP. Please check this info very well. I thought the VC is now a female why then did you refuse to take that into consideration.

she is yet to be sworn in and that'll be during next school session

SpecialAdviser:


Mbanefo, Eni Njoku ,Alvan Ikoku. All Franco male hostels.

but franco life sweet die only say the toilet na scam.
Mbanefo eeeeehhh... i wan jump
Enu Njoku eeeeehhh... see tanker
Alvan eeeeehhh i wan do
anyways Mbanefo is the sweetest for me especially when u r enjoying kalu's bread and fried egg.
But only say i dey waka from Mbanefo go Eni Njoku go buy okpa from that woman fine pikin dem.