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Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by panafrican(m): 2:45pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
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Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:05pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
does he even remember, since he was drunk all the damn time...? |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by Jimi24: 4:28pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
MrBrownJay1: Boris Yeltsin was drunk all the time NOT Mikhail Gorbachev 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:32pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
Jimi24: very true... i am mistaking the two men. |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by dermmy(m): 5:13pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
Gorbachev was too weak. He contributed to the collapse of USSR and I'm happy he admitted his "perestroika" was one of the reasons not only his perestroika even his crappy "glasnost". |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by mysticwarrior(m): 6:43pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
dermmy:do you really expect a man like Gorbachev to be as iron fisted like Stalin who starved 30 million soviets to death? Gorbachev was a very compassionate man who has human sympathy in his heart, he withdrew Soviet forces from Afghanistan due to the atrocities committed there, he wasn't man who see the killings of people as a means to demonstrate toughness, he was an intelligent man 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by grandstar(m): 9:19pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
He might be right, All I do know is that the Soviet Union was bankrupt by the time of its collapse and that was what eventually doomed it. . And lest I forget, Gorbachev willingness for reform was also a very big reason for its fall. Many power drunk rulers would have held on to communism for decades after it lost its usefulness. Just take a look at Cuba or better still, North Korea. He put people first and not his own ego. 1 Like |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by grandstar(m): 10:21pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
mysticwarrior: One million like for this post! The USSR could have lasted longer but he knew it waa not the USSR waa not the Utopian state the government portrayed it as but rather a tyrannical monster that kept it's people in darkness and had them on a leash. 1 Like |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by Nobody: 5:50am On Nov 06, 2019 |
grandstar:You have said it all. The USSR was so bankrupt, it was the major and number one reason it collapsed. If there was money, the Soviet union won't have collapse. And as for me, Gobarchev was not really a ruthless person like the likes of Stalin, men like Stalin won't allow such a thing happen. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by dermmy(m): 7:28am On Nov 06, 2019 |
mysticwarrior: I don't support dictatorship or killing of people. I know Stalin was a monster but he was able to keep the republic together in the face of antagonism from the capitalist entente countries likewise Nikita Kruschev and Leonid Breznev. This is cold war politics bro, an era where both sides were actively seeking to undermine its opponent influence and you can't afford to be weak because you don't want to be seen as a monster. U.S was monstrously vicious during the cold war sponsoring coup in other countries especially countries that were inching towards socialism infact U.S had plans to nuke China during the Cuban missile crisis. When the union experience an external interference during the hungarian revolution in 1956 the revolution was crushed by Nikita. Same thing America would do when its capitalist client state was inching towards socialism. I don't have to explain why U.S intervened in the Vietnam war with a crushing response even though it failed. Let's take a look at the Prague spring 1968 the liberalization policies of Alexander Dubcek didn't come from within it came from outside Soviet-Russia and other satellite states intervened and it was reversed. Fast forward to Gorbachev era. He did well by pulling Soviet troops out of Afghanistan the war took its toll on USSR financially. Afghanistan was USSR own Vietnam it was a quagmire but Gorbachev decided to allow the republic disintegrate becasue he was incapable. The west later gave him a nobel peace prize for his weakness because he helped them disintegrate their biggest enemy lolss. I can tell you that man is regretting for him to have said his perestroika led to the collapse of USSR because Russia of today is being treated badly by the west. The west never honoured the agreement it made with Russia that they won't interfere in Russia's remaining sphere of influence after the cold war ended they keep expanding towards Russia wooing its remaining allies into NATO and the EU Had it been Vladimir Putin was weak the west would have taken the whole of Ukraine especially strategic Crimea. Sorry for my long epistle. 2 Likes |
Re: Gorbachev Revealed Real Reason Behind Soviet Union's Collapse by mysticwarrior(m): 11:11am On Nov 07, 2019 |
dermmy:impressive write up and I do admire your vast knowledge in the area of soviet history and politics. The soviet union which was created in 1922 became and is the largest confederation the world has yet seen, it was made up of 15 different nations which came together to forged a powerful allegiance. As a confederation of member states, Soviet constitutions formally defined each member republic as a sovereign state, whose membership was voluntary, and could secede at any time. I want you to understand that there were strong reasons behind the collapse of the Soviet union other than Gorbachev policies of perestroika and glasnost. Gorbecheve has always been in the Bolshevik party for long and has worked in the party during the time of Krushchev, Breeznev and Andropov, his charismatic abilities paved way for him to be a member of the "POLITBURO" (the highest body of the communist party) that was a very impressive achievement. Let me quickly remind you that the communist party in the soviet union practices "democratic centralism" which means discussions, selections, elections and appointments are done within the party. After the death of kostatine Chernenko, there was no other capable hand to lead the union and the Young Mikhail Gorbachev has to be brought into power, by this tiime the young soviets were already loosing intereste in cummunism and Gorbachev and his cabinets has no other option than to institutionalized Perestroika and Glasnost, he did what he has to do, the following are some of the reasons why the union disintegrated, 1 It was too large to be controlled by a single body, 2 The West felt threatened by it strength and did everything possible to weaken it by disuniting the union. 3 the media was used by the west as a weapon of propaganda to spread the good side of capitalism and discredit communism. 4. After the Chernobyl disaster of 1986 in Ukraine, there was a large cry by some member States to leave the union. Right of succession was why most of those countries were able to leave without any strong resistance, this was what broke the union into pieces, and Gorbachev was made a scape goat by critics and you are not exceptional. 2 Likes |
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