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Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by PStacks(m): 12:45pm On Jan 12, 2020
The permutations now does not require any tactical genius or a Strategy guru. These are logical permutations that later adds up with after thought.

I have Read from the Book, "Art of War" and i am also briefed on the "48 Laws of Power".

There is an aspect from that law that propounds you can win from mere wielding reputation.

Everything is fair in War. You can force your adversaries into making a mistake

Its safe to assume Iran truly made a mistake at this point to have brought down that Jet with lives of 176 people lost.

if Iran made that Mistake, what then were the possible permutations?

That Tensions were high between Iran and America.
That Iran's Military had been on the alert.

That a Plane that was cleared to fly by Civil Aviation authorities, was flying within its regular track and normal ambits was deemed a possible threat from America.

That being too concious and very suspicious of the times, Iran's military probably had observed it a possible threat to Iranian Airspace, flying too close for comfort and possibly designated it a "Threat"... Perherbs, America was trying something, When infact the Plane was purely Ukrainian..

Possibly a wrong tactical military decision from Iran.
After the wrong military decision on a civilian aircraft, the Iranian Authorities lied and denied and tried to cover information or distort facts.

Iran Has been running from pillar to post.
growing International anger, Mounting Pressures in Iran amidst tight Economic Sanctions.

Iran Made a Mistake but America by doing nothing forced Iran's wrong military calculations that resulted in Shooting down the Civilian Plane Mistakenly.

Congratulations to Iran and Congratulations to America.

one day, they both would wipe out Humanity from Existence if in the year 2020, 176 innocent Human lives does not count for Nothing.

Perherbs it time for a New world Order.


https://www.omascope.com/diaspora/176-died-iran-made-the-mistake-america-forced-it

Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 12:52pm On Jan 12, 2020
Yawns. America could with the push of a button fire an intercontinental ballistic supersonic missile that could take off anywhere from florid a iowa oregon and blast Iran to shreds without a single war plane taking off.


2. The passenger airliner was flying at 8000 meters above sea level which cancels any notice of an attack because a military jet would need to either be a stealth or fly relately lower than that of they're to launch an offensive



Iran doesn't know what modern warfare is let alone understands its thirst for blood shed. So how can this situation depict America as an aggressor for Iran's wretchedness. Are people supposed to feel sad because other people caused their sadness.


Common sense is better than an Iranian mind. If a plane is flying at such altitude its either two things, its either its a passenger plane or wants to drop a nuclear bomb. Let's remove the possibility of a nuclear attack. Now, when they got information on their radar that a plane was flying at that altitude, did they contact their airspace authority to confirm if there was any form of violation of its airspace or confirmation of the flights operator. You guys keep trying to prove smart but show your stupidity. Stick to your voodoo and diabolical movies and leave ya kee alone


If Iran doesn't have good radar and communication systems to discern between an attack and passage I'm sure it's with sticks and kettle they'll employ in their threats to the United States. Pathetic Jokers


Cc Blackeuropean Smartchoiice

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by Nobody: 1:07pm On Jan 12, 2020
kunleweb:
Yawns. America could with the push of a button fire an intercontinental ballistic supersonic missile that could take off anywhere from florid a iowa oregon and blast Iran to shreds without a single war plane taking off.


2. The passenger airliner was flying at 8000 meters above sea level which cancels any notice of an attack because a military jet would need to either be a stealth or fly relately lower than that of they're to launch an offensive



Iran doesn't know what modern warfare is let alone understands its thirst for blood shed. So how can this situation depict America as an aggressor for Iran's wretchedness. Are people supposed to feel sad because other people caused their sadness.


Common sense is better than an Iranian mind. If a plane is flying at such altitude its either two things, its either its a passenger plane or wants to drop a nuclear bomb. Let's remove the possibility of a nuclear attack. Now, when they got information on their radar that a plane was flying at that altitude, did they contact their airspace authority to confirm if there was any form of violation of its airspace or confirmation of the flights operator. You guys keep trying to prove smart but show your stupidity. Stick to your voodoo and diabolical movies and leave ya kee alone


If Iran doesn't have good radar and communication systems to discern between an attack and passage I'm sure it's with sticks and kettle they'll employ in their threats to the United States. Pathetic Jokers


Cc Blackeuropean Smartchoiice
Iran will wish it never retaliated against the American airbase

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by PStacks(m): 1:11pm On Jan 12, 2020
kunleweb:
Yawns. America could with the push of a button fire an intercontinental ballistic supersonic missile that could take off anywhere from florid a iowa oregon and blast Iran to shreds without a single war plane taking off.


2. The passenger airliner was flying at 8000 meters above sea level which cancels any notice of an attack because a military jet would need to either be a stealth or fly relately lower than that of they're to launch an offensive



Iran doesn't know what modern warfare is let alone understands its thirst for blood shed. So how can this situation depict America as an aggressor for Iran's wretchedness. Are people supposed to feel sad because other people caused their sadness.


Common sense is better than an Iranian mind. If a plane is flying at such altitude its either two things, its either its a passenger plane or wants to drop a nuclear bomb. Let's remove the possibility of a nuclear attack. Now, when they got information on their radar that a plane was flying at that altitude, did they contact their airspace authority to confirm if there was any form of violation of its airspace or confirmation of the flights operator. You guys keep trying to prove smart but show your stupidity. Stick to your voodoo and diabolical movies and leave ya kee alone


If Iran doesn't have good radar and communication systems to discern between an attack and passage I'm sure it's with sticks and kettle they'll employ in their threats to the United States. Pathetic Jokers


Cc Blackeuropean Smartchoiice


Iran made a mistake. A forced mistake. A gamble.

but it remains a forced Mistake.

America Forced the Mistake.

Iran would not just start a calculation if their intelligence is not ripe. Apparently their intelligence was crap and were forced to make the mistake. Such horrifying mistake that costs 176 innocent human lives.

Keep taking sides. Its not about Iran or America now, its about the 176 lives.
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 1:12pm On Jan 12, 2020
Smartchoiice:

Iran will wish it never retaliated against the American airbase


I just watched the video of protesters chanting for resignation on BBC... And I'm amazed. Close to 50,000 Iranians ain't buying the crap story America is at fault. But Nairaland Christian haters confuse a crackdown on terrorists with an attack on Islam. Albeit perhaps it could be both imply the same shii undecided

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 1:13pm On Jan 12, 2020
PStacks:



Iran made a mistake. A forced mistake. A gamble.

but it remains a forced Mistake.

America Forced the Mistake.

Iran would not just start a calculation if their intelligence is not ripe. Apparently their intelligence was crap and were forced to make the mistake. Such horrifying mistake that costs 176 innocent human lives.

Keep taking sides. Its not about Iran or America now, its about the 176 lives.




Lol. Go sit down. Go to BBC and watch videos of Iranians protesting against the distardly act. Random count suggests over 60,000 people. You're here cheerleading the bloodshed of innocent lives. Are you more Iranian than Iranians

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kapelvej: 1:15pm On Jan 12, 2020
Iranian Government is the worst enemy of Iran, and not America

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by itsme01: 1:24pm On Jan 12, 2020
It was a nessecary mistake , when US use nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaka , Japanese Airforce saw the planes incoming and felt it was an Harmless plane..

I believe comuinication from Iranian Air Tower and the Plane was jammed, and since Iran saw a plane flying to close for comfort they radioed the pilot several time without response before being forced to take an action



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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by Nukilia: 1:27pm On Jan 12, 2020
The aggression on the path of America led to the collateral damage! undecided
You dont sit down in America and threaten a nation and expect them to sit down and do nothing. Trump caused the crisis
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 1:49pm On Jan 12, 2020
itsme01:


It was a nessecary mistake , when US use nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaka , Japanese Airforce saw the planes incoming and felt it was an Harmless plane..

I believe comuinication from Iranian Air Tower and the Plane was jammed, and since Iran saw a plane flying to close for comfort they radioed the pilot several time without response before being forced to take an action



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Wetin this one they talk. Normal airplanes don't carry nuclear bomb as it needs to drop the bomb and vanish in just seconds. Those bombers are super swift and need just microseconds to drop the bomb and capus. Those kinds can't be stopped by the World War 2 gizmos the Russian sells to these noise makers. You guys should desist from arguments without sound doctrine. Your theory doesn't stand

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by itsme01: 1:55pm On Jan 12, 2020
kunleweb:





Wetin this one they talk. Normal airplanes don't carry nuclear bomb as it needs to drop the bomb and vanish in just seconds. Those bombers are super swift and need just microseconds to drop the bomb and capus. Those kinds can't be stopped by the World War 2 gizmos the Russian sells to these noise makers. You guys should desist from arguments without sound doctrine. Your theory doesn't stand

Use your sense and read about US warship bombing Iranian Air bus and their excuse, same with the Egyptian Airline plane downed during US drills..

and if you still dont connect the dot, read about how Japan aviation got fooled by a US bomber that dropped the Nuclear bomb on hiroshima


Its simple common sense, even in US once your plane aproaches its airspace and they radioed you without response or you intentionally go radio silent the next thing is you being bombed, Iran did it to US stealth drone not quite long... at 75thousand feet above sea level no one can tell on radar what kind of plane is aproaching


.

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by GamalNasser: 2:09pm On Jan 12, 2020
kunleweb:
Yawns. America could with the push of a button fire an intercontinental ballistic supersonic missile that could take off anywhere from florid a iowa oregon and blast Iran to shreds without a single war plane taking off.


2. The passenger airliner was flying at 8000 meters above sea level which cancels any notice of an attack because a military jet would need to either be a stealth or fly relately lower than that of they're to launch an offensive



Iran doesn't know what modern warfare is let alone understands its thirst for blood shed. So how can this situation depict America as an aggressor for Iran's wretchedness. Are people supposed to feel sad because other people caused their sadness.


Common sense is better than an Iranian mind. If a plane is flying at such altitude its either two things, its either its a passenger plane or wants to drop a nuclear bomb. Let's remove the possibility of a nuclear attack. Now, when they got information on their radar that a plane was flying at that altitude, did they contact their airspace authority to confirm if there was any form of violation of its airspace or confirmation of the flights operator. You guys keep trying to prove smart but show your stupidity. Stick to your voodoo and diabolical movies and leave ya kee alone


If Iran doesn't have good radar and communication systems to discern between an attack and passage I'm sure it's with sticks and kettle they'll employ in their threats to the United States. Pathetic Jokers


Cc Blackeuropean Smartchoiice

Thank you please school him ..I am tired of bozzos trying to drag America into the sheer incompetence of the Iranian military . Who arms an anti Aircraft battery in a active commercial aviation corridor , the stupid Iranians say the thought it was a US cruise missile , didnt they have proper radar coverage to know that the origin of the "super large cruise missile " was from the Tehran airport which was still receiving and letting flights take off ...the Russians made SA 15 guantlet used to bring down the plane has a radar capable measuring size and speed of the target before being fired so how did Iranian military mistake a 737 for a cruise missile ..please see the size difference between both below

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 2:19pm On Jan 12, 2020
GamalNasser:


Thank you please school him ..I am tired of bozzos trying to drag America into the sheer incompetence of the Iranian military . Who arms an anti Aircraft battery in a active commercial aviation corridor , the stupid Iranians say the thought it was a US cruise missile , didnt they have proper radar coverage to know that the origin of the "super large cruise missile " was from the Tehran airport which was still receiving and letting flights take off ...the Russians made SA 15 guantlet used to bring down the plane has a radar capable measuring size and speed of the target before being fired so how did Iranian military mistake a 737 for a cruise missile ..please see the size difference between both below




wink These guys just don't get it

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 2:20pm On Jan 12, 2020
itsme01:


Use your sense and read about US warship bombing Iranian Air bus and their excuse, same with the Egyptian Airline plane downed during US drills..

and if you still dont connect the dot, read about how Japan aviation got fooled by a US bomber that dropped the Nuclear bomb on hiroshima


Its simple common sense, even in US once your plane aproaches its airspace and they radioed you without response or you intentionally go radio silent the next thing is you being bombed, Iran did it to US stealth drone not quite long... at 75thousand feet above sea level no one can tell on radar what kind of plane is aproaching


.




You better come to 2020..i can see you're still stuck in the 70s.lmao
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by sammyj: 2:41pm On Jan 12, 2020
shocked shocked cool cool
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by mumumugu(m): 7:17pm On Jan 12, 2020
PStacks:



Iran made a mistake. A forced mistake. A gamble.

but it remains a forced Mistake.

America Forced the Mistake.

Iran would not just start a calculation if their intelligence is not ripe. Apparently their intelligence was crap and were forced to make the mistake. Such horrifying mistake that costs 176 innocent human lives.

Keep taking sides. Its not about Iran or America now, its about the 176 lives.

THE DEAD MAJOR GENERAL WOULD NEVER MAKE SUCH A MISTAKE. NEW GENERAL IS NOT VERY COMPETENT

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Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by Blackeuropean: 9:44am On Jan 13, 2020
itsme01:


It was a nessecary mistake , when US use nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaka , Japanese Airforce saw the planes incoming and felt it was an Harmless plane..

I believe comuinication from Iranian Air Tower and the Plane was jammed, and since Iran saw a plane flying to close for comfort they radioed the pilot several time without response before being forced to take an action



.
Please its better not to say anything when you know that you are out of that league of discussion , What you typed above will totally misinformed novice on here.

First of all no one jammed any ones radar. Secondly, Iran was simply having a panic attack within their ineptitude military personals in charge of the Russian SAM's for fear of the unknown from the US.
They were so afraid of U.S. retaliation after they sent those missiles to U.S. Air force bases in Irag that they could not even differentiate between a Commercial Jet From A War plane, Hence that error.

As for Bombing in Japan, please do not go there.
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by Blackeuropean: 9:32pm On Jan 14, 2020
kunleweb:
Yawns. America could with the push of a button fire an intercontinental ballistic supersonic missile that could take off anywhere from florid a iowa oregon and blast Iran to shreds without a single war plane taking off.


2. The passenger airliner was flying at 8000 meters above sea level which cancels any notice of an attack because a military jet would need to either be a stealth or fly relately lower than that of they're to launch an offensive



Iran doesn't know what modern warfare is let alone understands its thirst for blood shed. So how can this situation depict America as an aggressor for Iran's wretchedness. Are people supposed to feel sad because other people caused their sadness.


Common sense is better than an Iranian mind. If a plane is flying at such altitude its either two things, its either its a passenger plane or wants to drop a nuclear bomb. Let's remove the possibility of a nuclear attack. Now, when they got information on their radar that a plane was flying at that altitude, did they contact their airspace authority to confirm if there was any form of violation of its airspace or confirmation of the flights operator. You guys keep trying to prove smart but show your stupidity. Stick to your voodoo and diabolical movies and leave ya kee alone


If Iran doesn't have good radar and communication systems to discern between an attack and passage I'm sure it's with sticks and kettle they'll employ in their threats to the United States. Pathetic Jokers


Cc Blackeuropean Smartchoiice
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 9:33pm On Jan 14, 2020
Blackeuropean:

that you can write to, just have to open the casual



Well received wink
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by Blackeuropean: 9:35pm On Jan 14, 2020
kunleweb:




Well received wink
ok just have to remove back anyway, as I do not want overwhelming emails from others, because it will come right to my desk with massive alarms from incoming mails
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by kunleweb: 9:36pm On Jan 14, 2020
Blackeuropean:

ok just have to remove back anyway, as I do not want overwhelming emails from others, because it will come right to my desk with missive alarms from incoming mails

Very true. I trust you're doing good Sir
Re: Lets Just Say America Forced Iran's Error To Shoot The Ukranian Jet by Blackeuropean: 9:40pm On Jan 14, 2020
kunleweb:


Very true. I trust you're doing good Sir
I'm doing very fine, preparing to do Asian open trades, as I did not plane to trade on ETFs And Metals today, because I wanted do do Asian open, till the trade deals sign tomorrow then I see how stocks will move.

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