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The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 4:14pm On Mar 08, 2020
From September 25th to September 27th, the United Nations launched a “new universal agenda” for humanity
Michael Snyder | Economic Collapse - OCTOBER 19, 2015


"From September 25th to September 27th, the United Nations launched a “new universal agenda” for humanity. Those are not my words, they actually come directly out of the core document for this new agenda. The Pope traveled to New York City to give the address that kicked off this conference, thus giving his considerable endorsement to this new plan. Virtually every nation on the entire planet willingly signed up for the 17 goals that are included in this plan, but this stunning turn of events made very few international headlines.


The United Nations is promising that if we all work together that we can turn our planet into some kind of “utopia”, but the truth is that all of this talk about “unity” masks a very insidious agenda. The following comes from a recent piece by Paul McGuire, the author of a groundbreaking new book entitled “The Babylon Code”…

Another way that our planet is being “united” is through the use of international trade agreements.

The ultimate goal is for the entire world to become a “single market” with uniform laws, rules and regulations. But as we merge our economy with the rest of the globe, the United States has been losing tens of thousands of businesses and millions of jobs as the monolithic corporations that now dominate our economy shift production to areas where labor is much cheaper. This is absolutely destroying the middle class, but very few people seem to care.

Negotiations for one of the biggest international trade treaties that the world has ever seen recently concluded. The Trans-Pacific Partnership, also known as “Obamatrade”, would represent a giant step toward a truly unified global economy. The following is an excerpt from one of my previous articles…
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We are also seeing some stunning moves in the direction of a one world religion.

In recent years, you may have noticed that it has become very trendy to say that all religions are just different paths to the same God. In fact, many prominent religious leaders are now openly proclaiming that the two biggest faiths on the entire planet, Christianity and Islam, worship the exact same deity.

For example, just consider what the Pope is saying publicly on this matter. The following is an extended excerpt from one of my recent articles on End of the American Dream…

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What Pope Francis had to say at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in Manhattan has received very little coverage by the mainstream media, but it was exceedingly significant. The following is how he began his address….....
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Pope Francis clearly believes that Christians and Muslims worship the exact same God. And so that helps to explain why he authorized “Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran” at the Vatican for the first time ever back in 2014.

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What is happening is undeniable.

We are steamrolling toward a one world government, a one world economy and a one world religion.


Of course we will not get there overnight. It is going to take some time, and there are going to be quite a few bumps along the way. In fact, I believe that our planet will experience an extreme amount of chaos before we actually get there.

****But every major crisis will be used as an excuse to advance this agenda. Virtually every solution that the elite offer us will involve more globalization and more centralization. We will be told that all of our problems will be solved if humanity will just come together in unity.

For some, the goal of a “united planet” where we are all working together to eradicate things like poverty, war and disease makes all the sense in the world.

For others, a one world government, a one world economy and a one world religion would simply mean setting the stage for “one world tyranny”.

So what do you think? Please feel free to share your thoughts by posting a comment below…


SOURCE:. https://www.infowars.com/moving-toward-a-one-world-government-a-one-world-economy-and-a-one-world-religion/
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by OriginalZombiE: 4:25pm On Mar 08, 2020
One world govt is only possible if they're able to enforce it via a powerful military.

This can happen if most of the world powers come together under one umbrella, then it will only be a matter of time before smaller countries are coerced into joining the global initiative.

However, as long as most powerful countries still espouse nationalistic ideologies, this reality will remain an illusion.

To put it in layman's terms, as long as people like Trump and Putin remain in power, a so called one-world "kumbaya" government is nearly impossible.


Europe tried it with the EU and now, we already have brexit

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 4:33pm On Mar 08, 2020
@originalzombie

You are partly right. If you read the article, it was said that it will not be an easy task.
Also, this was written in Year 2015 during Obama Presidency. Trump has done a good work to hinder the globalization agenda (Obamatrade) because God is giving the Earth his grace. However, the global agenda has been progressing in many ways still with the Vatican Pope and U.N at the forefront of it.

Pope Francis is inviting all world leaders and young people to a conference on 14th May 2020 to Foster Global Alliance.

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-invites-world-leaders-to-may-14-2020-global-educational-alliance-foster-humanism-reptile-building-vatican/
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Righteousness89(m): 4:44pm On Mar 08, 2020
The agents of the antichrist are pushing the agenda of their Master Heavily.

The Present pope who I see as the Fore runner of the antichrist has been in the Fore front of laying the foundation.

May 17 this year is the so called " Global peace pact" called by pope for all the leaders of nations.. invitations have been sent out since Sept last year..

The so called Climate Change noise is also a move towards the One World Agenda..

The Presidency of Donald Trump Put a spammer in their plans..

President Trump and Benjami Netanyahu are the Major leaders against the Globalist agenda, the NWO and the One World Government! That's the Reason why He has been persecuted from Day 1 of His Presidency.

President Trump Presidency is a Mercy Period for The Inhabitants of this Generation to make Peace with GOD.

That Mercy period will be over soonest because the Event holding the One World Government from Operating will happen anytime soon.

That Event is the RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Saints is the Event holding them from Operating in full Capacity...


That the Reason we Scream here Daily for all to Ensure that they Make Peace with JESUS, and live Ready! So as not to be left Behind!

Having Said that, let's not Forget that " Personal Raptures are Taking place Every Secs..

All who have died today have had their Rapture. They can't Repent any longer. Mercy is terminated for them..

Let the Wise Decode the times and Be Ready!

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 4:47pm On Mar 08, 2020
Righteousness89:
The agents of the antichrist are pushing the agenda of their Master Heavily.

The Present pope who I see as the Fore runner of the antichrist has been in the Fore front of laying the foundation.

May 17 this year is the so called " Global peace pact" called by pope for all the leaders of nations.. invitations have been sent out since Sept last year..

The so called Climate Change noise is also a move towards the One World Agenda..

The Presidency of Donald Trump Put a spammer in their plans..

President Trump and Benjami Netanyahu are the Major leaders against the Globalist agenda, the NWO and the One World Government! That's the Reason why He has been persecuted from Fay1 of His Presidency.

President Trump Presidency is a Mercy Period for The Inhabitants of this Generation to make Peace with GOD.

That Mercy period will be over soonest because the Event holding the One World Government from Operating will happen anytime soon.

That Event is the RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Saints is the Event holding them from Operating in full Capacity...


That the Reason we Scream here Daily for all to Ensure that they Make Peace with JESUS, and live Ready! So as not to be left Behind!

Having Said that, let's not Forget that " Personal Raptured are Taking place Every Secs..

All who have died today have had their Rapture. They can't Repent any longer. Mercy is terminated for them..

Let the Wise Decode the times and Be Ready!

There is nothing like RAPTURE. Read your Bible

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Righteousness89(m): 4:49pm On Mar 08, 2020
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Jozzy4:


There is nothing like RAPTURE. Read your Bible
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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 4:51pm On Mar 08, 2020
Righteousness89:
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It's a fact . Show me Rapture in the Bible ?

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by kingxsamz(m): 5:27pm On Mar 08, 2020
Righteousness89:
The agents of the antichrist are pushing the agenda of their Master Heavily.

The Present pope who I see as the Fore runner of the antichrist has been in the Fore front of laying the foundation.

May 17 this year is the so called " Global peace pact" called by pope for all the leaders of nations.. invitations have been sent out since Sept last year..

The so called Climate Change noise is also a move towards the One World Agenda..

The Presidency of Donald Trump Put a spammer in their plans..

President Trump and Benjami Netanyahu are the Major leaders against the Globalist agenda, the NWO and the One World Government! That's the Reason why He has been persecuted from Fay1 of His Presidency.

President Trump Presidency is a Mercy Period for The Inhabitants of this Generation to make Peace with GOD.

That Mercy period will be over soonest because the Event holding the One World Government from Operating will happen anytime soon.

That Event is the RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Saints is the Event holding them from Operating in full Capacity...


That the Reason we Scream here Daily for all to Ensure that they Make Peace with JESUS, and live Ready! So as not to be left Behind!

Having Said that, let's not Forget that " Personal Raptured are Taking place Every Secs..

All who have died today have had their Rapture. They can't Repent any longer. Mercy is terminated for them..

Let the Wise Decode the times and Be Ready!

Yaba left, come and carry your patient, another one has escaped the ward...

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Righteousness89(m): 8:04pm On Mar 08, 2020
Jozzy4:


It's a fact . Show me Rapture in the Bible ?
Rapture is a Word that describes the Catching away of the Saints..

1Cor 15:52, 1 Thel 4:16-17

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 8:44pm On Mar 08, 2020
Righteousness89:

Rapture is a Word that describes the Catching away of the Saints..

1Cor 15:52, 1 Thel 4:16-17

I insist nothing in those verses suggest a rapture.
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Righteousness89(m): 8:55pm On Mar 08, 2020
Jozzy4:


I insist nothing in those verses suggest a rapture.
ok! continue!
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 10:21pm On Mar 08, 2020
Jozzy4:


I insist nothing in those verses suggest a rapture.

Let me ask you. What is the meaning of Rapture ?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Nobody: 10:32pm On Mar 08, 2020
The ecumenical movement is meant to unite all denominations into the new world order. Interdenominationalism is a scam, we should seek for biblical truth and not unity in lies. Many Pentecostal/evangelical church will fall in line when the right time comes, already many false pastors/teachers/prophet are already being used into introduce lies in doctrines, that is why you see churches no longer care for purity of doctrines, they just follow the already corrupted cultural/political leanings and try to bend or twist the bible to that effect.
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 7:36am On Mar 09, 2020
mrZENographer:


Let me ask you. What is the meaning of Rapture ?

Transporting of some believers to heaven from earth , without them dying, so ?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 7:37am On Mar 09, 2020
Righteousness89:
ok! continue!

U would have done well to quote the verses and highlight the aspect u feel support you. U are sure it's none
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Righteousness89(m): 7:56am On Mar 09, 2020
Jozzy4:


U would have done well to quote the verses and highlight the aspect u feel support you. U are sure it's none

Ok Sir..
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 9:35am On Mar 09, 2020
Jozzy4:


Transporting of some believers to heaven from earth , without them dying, so ?


So tell me, how that is different from
1 Thessalonians 4:17 and 1Cor 15: 51-52?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 11:49am On Mar 09, 2020
mrZENographer:


So tell me, how that is different from
1 Thessalonians 4:17 and 1Cor 15: 51-52?

Is there anything in those verses that suggest transpotation to heaven without dying??
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 12:16pm On Mar 11, 2020
Jozzy4:


Is there anything in those verses that suggest transpotation to heaven without dying??

What does "we shall not all sleep" mean?

What does "4:17 Then we which are alive and remain" mean?

Chai, You might need to go and take an English course oo.
Infact, e weak me to reply this your post sef.

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 9:16pm On Mar 11, 2020
mrZENographer:


What does "we shall not all sleep" mean?


Thank you, let me repeat this .... Sleep indicate a period of rest . Paul is not saying they won't die . The word sleep is not synonymous with death.

Death Is a criteria to enjoy the first Ressurection which 1Corinthians 15 is all about.

" Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection . Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6 NKJV)

To be a king and rule with Christ for the thousand years , they must experience a Ressurection. So when he says some won't sleep, he is not saying they won't die, but rather unlike those who spent long period in the grave. They would be Ressurection in the twinkling of an eye. No resting like others

Hence a sacred secret.



What does "4:17 Then we which are alive and remain" mean?


Here is the verse in full ...

1Thes 4:15-17

" According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."

If you are correct, people should presently be going to heaven without dying, cos we are presently at the Lord's coming... Matthew 24 proves this. !!!

So why haven't people been caught into the air ? Or are you guys reading what's not there Into the verse


You might need to go and take an English course oo.
Infact, e weak me to reply this your post sef.
It's not what you think, hope you can see now?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 11:05pm On Mar 11, 2020
Jozzy4:


Thank you, let me repeat this .... Sleep indicate a period of rest . Paul is not saying they won't die . The word sleep is not synonymous with death.
When Jesus said "Lazarus our friend is sleeping and I am going to wake him up." Do you know what he meant? LAZARUS WAS DEAD.

Death Is a criteria to enjoy the first Ressurection which 1Corinthians 15 is all about.
"We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed"
"And then we which alive shall be caught up with them"
All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture. Whereas your argument is no rapture in the Bible

"Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection . Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6 NKJV)

Now you find yourself agreeing the rapture is scriptural. Okay!

To be a king and rule with Christ for the thousand years , they must experience a Ressurection. So when he says some won't sleep, he is not saying they won't die, but rather unlike those who spent long period in the grave. They would be Ressurection in the twinkling of an eye. No resting like others

Just hear yourself! What are you saying? Confusion is confusing you. Chai!!


Hence a sacred secret.



Here is the verse in full ...

1Thes 4:15-17

" According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."

If you are correct, people should presently be going to heaven without dying, cos we are presently at the Lord's coming... Matthew 24 proves this. !!!

I am correct and you are confused.

So why haven't people been caught into the air ? Or are you guys reading what's not there Into the verse

Ok little babe I'll tell you. Because it is a one-time special event that signifies the end of the age (Dispensation of the gentiles).



It's not what you think, hope you can see now?
I'll be patient with you.

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 6:33am On Mar 12, 2020
mrZENographer:

When Jesus said "Lazarus our friend is sleeping and I am going to wake him up." Do you know what he meant? LAZARUS WAS DEAD.


Think well about the Red, Lazarus wasn't just dead it's been days ago . So he was " Sleeping " , in a resting mode since days ago waiting for Resurrection , Paul was saying such won't occur for some , they won't need to sleep or be in a sleeping mode before they are ressurected . That doesn't mean they will not die, to experience Resurrection , there must be death


"We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed"
"And then we which alive shall be caught up with them"
All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture. Whereas your argument is no rapture in the Bible


I was showing you the word " without dying " time without number in my question to you. Now you are agreeing all of them must experience ressurection, WONT THEY HAVE TO DIE TO EXPERIENCE RESSURECTION ?





Now you find yourself agreeing the rapture is scriptural. Okay!


Your definition is going from the popular definition I gave which is transportation of the living to heaven without dying . You said


"All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture " - mrZENographer

Then if so, to experience a ressurection , they must at first die ... Do we both agree ?





Just hear yourself! What are you saying? Confusion is confusing you. Chai!!




I am correct and you are confused.



Ok little babe I'll tell you. Because it is a one-time special event that signifies the end of the age (Dispensation of the gentiles).




I'll be patient with you.

Special event of going without dying right ? Sudden disappearance ? grin grin scam

Let me quote your words again "
All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture "


At least we both agree death would have to occur ? If so, no qualms ... But I know many rapture teachers don't teach that.

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by achorladey: 5:01pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jozzy4: To be a king and rule with Christ for the thousand years they must experience a RESURRECTION. So when he says some won't sleep, he is not saying they WON'T DIE, but rather unlike those who spent long period in the grave. They would be Ressurection in the twinkling of an eye. No RESTING like others.

MrZENographer: Just hear yourself! What are you saying? Confusion is confusing you. Chai!!

Achorladey: Jozzy4 your last statement states NO RESTING in essence NO SLEEPING or NO DEATH. Which contradict your 'HE IS NOT SAYING THEY WON'T DIE'.

That is what mrZENographer is drawing attention to in his response to your post. Read again and see.

Perhaps this will help you will the "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN" NEED RESURRECTION?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by achorladey: 5:13pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jozzy4:


Transporting of some believers to heaven from earth , without them dying, so ?


One of the events mentioned in these verses is the
‘gathering of the chosen ones.’ (Matt. 24:31) Hence, it
appears that all anointed ones who still remain on earth
after the initial part of the great tribulation has passed
will at some point be raised to heaven before the
outbreak of the battle of Armageddon. - Watchtower, July 15, 2013, p. 8 (Endnote #2 for Paragraph cool

Is there any difference in your response and the cited material?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 9:27pm On Mar 12, 2020
If I ask you what are your beliefs , you will scream Jesus is the way, and all such matters should be left till he comes. You don't do doctrine. But here you are trying to prove one . Interesting

achorladey:
Jozzy4: To be a king and rule with Christ for the thousand years they must experience a RESURRECTION. So when he says some won't sleep, he is not saying they WON'T DIE, but rather unlike those who spent long period in the grave. They would be Ressurection in the twinkling of an eye. No RESTING like others.

MrZENographer: Just hear yourself! What are you saying? Confusion is confusing you. Chai!!

Achorladey: Jozzy4 your last statement states NO RESTING in essence NO SLEEPING or NO DEATH . Which contradict your 'HE IS NOT SAYING THEY WON'T DIE'.

That is what mrZENographer is drawing attention to in his response to your post. Read again and see.


The same Greek word appears when Jesus met the disciples in deep sleep at Gethsemane, I guess it means they are dead ? ? Since you have assumed already ??




Perhaps this will help you will the "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN" NEED RESURRECTION?



No, they don't . I guess Rev 20:6 is missing in your Bible. To burst your brain: the event of 1The 4:15-17 was timed at Christ's presence or coming in some versions . Are we presently seeing the signs that Christ is present as shown in Matthew 24? If yes , why haven't people started disappearing already ? grin

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 9:40pm On Mar 12, 2020
achorladey:


One of the events mentioned in these verses is the
‘gathering of the chosen ones.’ (Matt. 24:31) Hence, it
appears that all anointed ones who still remain on earth
after the initial part of the great tribulation has passed
will at some point be raised to heaven before the
outbreak of the battle of Armageddon. - Watchtower, July 15, 2013, p. 8 (Endnote #2 for Paragraph cool

Is there any difference in your response and the cited material?
The question u ought to ask is:
How are they raised , by ressurection ?

To quote mrZENographer " All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture "

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by achorladey: 11:01pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jozzy4:
If I ask you what are your beliefs , you will scream Jesus is the way, and all such matters should be left till he comes. You don't do doctrine. But here you are trying to prove one . Interesting



The same Greek word appears when Jesus met the disciples in deep sleep at Gethsemane, I guess it means they are dead ? ? Since you have assumed already ??



No, they don't . I guess Rev 20:6 is missing in your Bible. To burst your brain: the event of 1The 4:15-17 was timed at Christ's presence or coming in some versions . Are we presently seeing the signs that Christ is present as shown in Matthew 24? If yes , why haven't people started disappearing already ? grin

Jozzy4: If I ask you what are your beliefs , you will scream Jesus is the way, and all such matters should be left till he comes. You don't do doctrine. But here you are trying to prove one . Interesting

Achorladey: What I have to say to the ABOVE is, YOU cannot READ HEART. Since you cannot READ HEART, you don't know where I am headed. So the above are just MERE SPECULATION from your MIND. The article cited should have aided your direction of where I am headed.

Jozzy: Since you have assumed already ??

Achorladey: Assume what? Oga Jozzy4

Jozzy4: The same Greek word appears when Jesus met the disciples in deep sleep at Gethsemane,

Achorladey: Now its the GREEK word appear in GETHSEMANE, we are with Paul at Thessalonica not GETHSEMANE. Jesus was dealing with his DISCIPLES that are NOT DEAD Paul's discussion is centred on THOSE ALREADY DEAD and the "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN".

Perhaps when you bring out my ASSUMPTION on your "NO RESTING LIKE OTHERS" palaver and that your NO RESTING LIKE OTHERS could be "THEY ARE NOT DEAD" LIKE the DISCIPLES Jesus was talking to in GETHSEMANE.

Concerning the question I raised, please affirm, is it once again......NO THEY DON'T?
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by achorladey: 11:08pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jozzy4:

The question u ought to ask is:
How are they raised , by ressurection ?

To quote mrZENographer " All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture "


Jozzy4: How are they raised , by ressurection ?

Achorladey: Dead people are resurrected, but the "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN" are NOT DEAD, so tell us WHY they NEED RESURRECTION?

Or perhaps those referred to in that article are DEAD ALREADY.
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by mrZENographer: 11:17pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jozzy4:

The question u ought to ask is:
How are they raised , by ressurection ?

To quote mrZENographer " All the saints both they who sleep and they who live will partake in the resurrection. This is the rapture "


The First resurrection is the transformation from the flesh to the glorious body of Christ...

In a twinkle of an eye , for those who sleep and those who are alive at the time of Jesus coming
Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 11:25pm On Mar 12, 2020
achorladey:


Jozzy4: How are they raised , by ressurection ?

Achorladey: Dead people are resurrected, but the "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN" are NOT DEAD, so tell us WHY they NEED RESURRECTION?

Or perhaps those referred to in that article are DEAD ALREADY.


grin grin that's why I ask if your understanding of we which are alive are not dying is correct , Tell me why people are presently not going to heaven undying presently since we are now at the time of Christ presence ??

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 11:29pm On Mar 12, 2020
achorladey:


Jozzy4: If I ask you what are your beliefs , you will scream Jesus is the way, and all such matters should be left till he comes. You don't do doctrine. But here you are trying to prove one . Interesting

Achorladey: What I have to say to the ABOVE is, YOU cannot READ HEART. Since you cannot READ HEART, you don't know where I am headed. So the above are just MERE SPECULATION from your MIND. The article cited should have aided your direction of where I am headed.

Jozzy: Since you have assumed already ??

Achorladey: Assume what? Oga Jozzy4

Jozzy4: The same Greek word appears when Jesus met the disciples in deep sleep at Gethsemane,

Achorladey: Now its the GREEK word appear in GETHSEMANE, we are with Paul at Thessalonica not GETHSEMANE. Jesus was dealing with his DISCIPLES that are NOT DEAD Paul's discussion is centred on THOSE ALREADY DEAD and the "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN".

Perhaps when you bring out my ASSUMPTION on your "NO RESTING LIKE OTHERS" palaver and that your NO RESTING LIKE OTHERS could be "THEY ARE NOT DEAD" LIKE the DISCIPLES Jesus was talking to in GETHSEMANE.

Concerning the question I raised, please affirm, is it once again......NO THEY DON'T?





You lack Bible knowledge big time , Are you aware that there is a different word for death in that same 1 Cor chapter 15 ? For example when Paul says what you sow cannot come to live unless first it dies. The greek word for death appears there. But he didn't use it at verse 51 , I brought that Gethsemane exmaple to let you realize the word sleep there is not death. Or else that would mean the disciples we're dead when Jesus saw them

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Re: The U.N And Pope Francis' Push For A One World Government, Religion And Economy by Jozzy4: 11:30pm On Mar 12, 2020
mrZENographer:


The First resurrection is the transformation from the flesh to the glorious body of Christ...

In a twinkle of an eye , for those who sleep and those who are alive at the time of Jesus coming

All must partake of ressurection ba ?

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