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Don't Marry Arabs! by aloyemeka1: 3:41am On Jan 02, 2011
[size=14pt]Barak slams 'wave of racism' in rabbi, rebbetzin letters[/size]
By JONAH MANDEL
12/29/2010 18:02

Reform women rabbis issue statement against "call to exclude the Arab citizen in Israel from workplaces, the cities’ streets and the public sphere."


Shortly after a group of rabbis’ wives publicized a letter calling on Jewish girls to keep away from Arab men, over 30 Reform women rabbis issued a statement on Wednesday declaring the rebbetzins’ letter “yet another link in the growing wave of racial incitement and intimidation, that has not received the appropriate response from the country’s leaders and its law enforcement agencies.”

No legal or disciplinary action has been taken against the nearly 50 municipal rabbis who recently issued an edict against renting or selling real-estate to non-Jews in Israel.
“This letter,” the women rabbis, from the Israeli Council of Progressive Rabbis, wrote of the rebbetzin’s document, “is a call to exclude the Arab citizen in Israel from workplaces, the cities’ streets and the public sphere.”

On the same day as the Reform rabbis’ letter, the Labor Party called to put an end to the “racist sentiments, recently aired in the media.”

“The rabbi and rebbetzin letters are part of a wave of racism that is threatening to pull Israeli society into dark and dangerous places,” Labor Party chairman Ehud Barak said in an announcement. “The Labor Party under my leadership is active in bringing together the various groups of Israel’s citizens, in the spirit of the Declaration of Independence.”

In their statement, the Reform rabbis noted four “sins” in the rebbetzins’ appeal: “the sin of racism and hating the Arab residents and citizens living among us here, the sin of insulting condescension aimed at our girls, who are presented as helpless and objects of manipulation,

the sin of chauvinism, in addressing the letter only to women, while the rates of men marrying non-Jewish women are much higher than those of women marrying non-Jews, [and the] sin of an exile mind-set, in creating a discourse of fear and seclusion that does not suit a nation safely living on its land.”

While stating their objection to interfaith marriages, a ceremony they would not conduct, the women rabbis noted their positive outlook on social and professional connections “between ourselves, our daughters and our sons, and all citizens and residents of the State of Israel, regardless of religion, race and sex.”

The statement added that “Jews confident in their Jewish identity should not fear contacts with people of other races,” which, it said, are the foundation for the construction of a tolerant, healthy and sustainable society. “There is no point in preserving our heritage without keeping its command of being better people, worthy of God’s image in which we were created.”

On Tuesday, nearly 30 wives of prominent rabbis issued a letter warning young Jewish women who work or volunteer with Arabs, against being drawn into relationships with them. The letter was the initiative of an organization called Lehava, an acronym for “preventing assimilation.”

“Your job is tough, your dedication great, and you don’t always get sufficient recognition, or a word of thanks,” the rebbetzins wrote of young women who work in hospitals and other public institutions as part of their national service. “In those places, there are quite a few Arab laborers who give themselves Hebrew names. Yusuf becomes Yossi, Samir – Sammy, and Abed becomes Ami. They seek relationships with you, try to win your affection and give you all the attention in the world.”

However, the good manners and concern displayed by the Arab men are but a ploy to draw the women to their villages, the letter cautioned, “and when they are in control everything changes.”


“Your grandmothers never dreamt that one of their descendants would do something that would remove the family’s following generations from the Jewish people,” the rebbetzins wrote. “For your sake, for the further generations, and so you don’t undergo the terrible ordeal, we appeal to you, do not go out with non-Jews, don’t work in places with non-Jews and don’t do national service together with non-Jews.”

Among the signatories on the letter were a daughter-in-law of former chief Sephardi Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the wife of Kiryat Arba’s Rabbi Dov Lior and the wife of Beit El’s Rabbi Zalman Melamed.

Rabbi Mauricio Balter, president of the Masorti (Conservative) Movement’s Rabbinical Assembly of Israel, said in a statement on Tuesday that “the Masorti Movement does not support intermarriage, of course, but there is no connection [between that and] the hatred and incitement campaign, appropriate to dark periods in history when the fear of the stranger turned into persecution and manhunts.

Whoever feels the need for seclusion should check their Jewish identity.”

Balter asserted that “our faith is firm enough to treat non-Jews equally and with respect.”

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=201449
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by seyibrown(f): 6:02pm On Jan 02, 2011
From the article:

However, the good manners and concern displayed by the Arab men are but a ploy to draw the women to their villages, the letter cautioned, “and when they are in control everything changes.”

I think they are warning their girls against falling for men who would 'resent their Jewishness' after their marriage! We read stories of 'free' women lured into 'marriages' and then moved to countries where they cannot get help or get out, don't we?
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jan 02, 2011
Seyi, Seyi,

Go ahead "interpreter", Nairalanders can't comprehend simple, obvious and self-explanatory messages. Can they?
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by seyibrown(f): 6:32pm On Jan 02, 2011
Jon.Bee:

Seyi, Seyi,

Go ahead "interpreter", Nairalanders can't comprehend simple, obvious and self-explanatory messages. Can they?

Oh dear! grin I was stating my what I thought of the matter and pointing to part of the article!   . . .  and actually many  'Nairalanders can't comprehend simple, obvious and self-explanatory messages'  grin, I KNOW THIS BY EXPERIENCE, and my opinion as stated in post # 1 WAS NOT even directed at any such people!  grin So, no vex at all, abeg! You could also have posted under THE article that contributors should NOT EXPLAIN the article! grin
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by Jenwitemi(m): 6:42pm On Jan 02, 2011
Who cares? This is jew vs arab matter. Wetin concern us black africans for inside? We no get our own discrimination problems to deal with? I'd rather we talk about our own problems rather than those of middle eastern people.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by MeGaStReEt: 8:09pm On Jan 02, 2011
chase them away
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by aloyemeka1: 9:11pm On Jan 02, 2011
Jenwitemi:

Who cares? This is jew vs arab matter. Wetin concern us black africans for inside? We no get our own discrimination problems to deal with? I'd rather we talk about our own problems than those of middle eastern people.
"Injustice in one place is a threat to justice everywhere" - Martin Luther King jnr.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by aloyemeka1: 9:17pm On Jan 02, 2011
seyibrown:

From the article:

I think they are warning their girls against falling for men who would 'resent their Jewishness' after their marriage! We read stories of 'free' women lured into 'marriages' and then moved to countries where they cannot get help or get out, don't we?

Why not advise them instead to be wary of travelling outside Israel with their Arab lovers because of their safety?. How will you feel if the Zulu ethnic women for example advise their women to stay away from loving and marrying Nigerians in RSA?.

It is also foolish for the women to insist on preserving Jewish culture more than the men as seen below:

the sin of chauvinism, in addressing the letter only to women, while the rates of men marrying non-Jewish women are much higher than those of women marrying non-Jews,  [and the] sin of an exile mind-set, in creating a discourse of fear and seclusion that does not suit a nation safely living on its land.”
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by seyibrown(f): 10:27pm On Jan 02, 2011
aloy/emeka:

Why not advise them instead to be wary of travelling outside Israel with their Arab lovers because of their safety?. How will you feel if the Zulu ethnic women for example advise their women to stay away from loving and marrying Nigerians in RSA?.

It is also foolish for the women to insist on preserving Jewish culture more than the men as seen below:

What is the point of marrying someone who you won't want to go to his hometown because he might force you to do things you do not want to do when you get there? Why not just steer clear of the possiblity of being enslaved for life and marry someone whose people will love you or who will not take you where his people will insist you throw away a significant part of your life?

If Jewish identity is preserved/inherited through the MOTHER, it is important that the women marry men who will not rob their offspring of the opportunity to be FREELY JEWISH! What would be the point of marrying into a Jew-hating family who will either hate your children or prevent them from retaining their Jewish identity? The best advice for these women if they were to carry on the Jewish line is to marry someone who IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC or will not become so on being presssured by family or for other reasons!
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by aloyemeka1: 12:22pm On Jan 03, 2011
I understand all your fears but not all of them are that way. Giving a marching order against all Arabs is racism at its best.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by Jenwitemi(m): 1:54pm On Jan 03, 2011
Yeah, right. As if the jews and the arabs care a hoot about the injustices happening in your neck of the woods. You better face ya own matter and leave others to face theirs. Abi you think sey you go fit book your place in jewish heaven if you start taking phensic for their headache? Are you that naive?
aloy/emeka:

"Injustice in one place is a threat to justice everywhere" - Martin Luther King jnr.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by aloyemeka1: 5:19pm On Jan 05, 2011
So because they don't give a hoot about black Africans, we should do the same about them?. Where is the spirit of God in you?.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by Jenwitemi(m): 6:08pm On Jan 05, 2011
aloy/emeka:

So because they don't give a hoot about black Africans, we should do the same about them?
Yes, we should. We have more than enough troubles of our own to deal with. Just because a bunch of colonialists stick a funny book telling stories about the events in the middle east 4-5 thousand years ago, does not mean that we have to carry the problems of the descendants on our heads. Get real!

aloy/emeka:

Where is the spirit of God in you?.
The spirit of God is very much there and it me tells me to solve my own problems at home and leave others to solve theirs in their own homes. We are all well equipped by the creator to deal with our own respective problems. Leave to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Worrying about the matters of the state of Israel will not get you on the good side of Mr, Jehovah, just in case you are looking for brownie points from the god of the israelis. FACE YOUR OWN ISSUES. cool
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by aloyemeka1: 9:08pm On Jan 05, 2011
Jenwitemi:

Yes, we should. We have more than enough troubles of our own to deal with. Just because a bunch of colonialists stick a funny book telling stories about the events in the middle east 4-5 thousand years ago, does not mean that we have to carry the problems of the descendants on our heads. Get real!
The spirit of God is very much there and it me tells me to solve my own problems at home and leave others to solve theirs in their own homes. We are all well equipped by the creator to deal with our own respective problems. Leave to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Worrying about the matters of the state of Israel will not get you on the good side of Mr, Jehovah, just in case you are looking for brownie points from the god of the israelis. FACE YOUR OWN ISSUES. cool

If that is the way you reason, I can't help you because I have many problems to deal with. The united states should solve all their problems before giving aids to nations like Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, etc. People should desist from giving alms or helping in serious disasters after all, they have problems of their own.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by Sweetnecta: 9:58pm On Jan 05, 2011
guys, it is only by mother that you are a jew. if your mother aint jew, you aint jew, the reason Jesus was classified as such. you guys remember sarah and the jewishness is safe, if you have a jewish momma.
Re: Don't Marry Arabs! by Jenwitemi(m): 12:07am On Jan 06, 2011
Now you are taking this to another a completely different level. Whoever said that physical help like humanitarian aid should not be given to any nation that needs it? Are we talking about humanitarian aids here, mate? Or has the nation of Israel ever ask Nigeria for humanitarian aid and Jenwitemi said, No? You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to twist my viewpoint to win arguements.

What can you, as a nigerian, offer the state of Israel that would be of any value to her, anyway? Do the state of Israel need you and your sympathy? No, they don't, is the answer. So quit trying.

We all know that poeple like you are just trying to suck up to the israeli deity by pretending to show care for his socalled chosen people's plight. Who are you kidding but yourself? What a waste of human intellect.
aloy/emeka:

If that is the way you reason, I can't help you because I have many problems to deal with. The united states should solve all their problems before giving aids to nations like Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, etc. People should desist from giving alms or helping in serious disasters after all, they have problems of their own.

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