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Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Holla2: 7:20pm On Jan 04, 2011
9ijaMan:

With ref to the bold: If na joke, you no serious at all. But if indeed you meant it, you are probably seeing to much to the American TV series "24". Perhaps you should team up with Beaf to learn how to use the internet, particularly Google, to source for information before you come out here on forums such as this to make a mockery of your certificates!

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Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jan 04, 2011
@Ozin: i guess u r one those animals murdered in d zoo to facilitate GEJ PHD Certificate. U r just got d award for the bigest DUNCE in d making 4yr 2011 for posting ur stupidity here.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by kcjazz(m): 7:51pm On Jan 04, 2011
Same old same old
Fix corruption they will start EFCC
Fix the economy they will raise economic team
Now fix security they will set up anti-terrorism office (even if the Police has that all this while)

At the end, when the officers get too close to comfort, they will get fired. (Nuhu, Ngozi, this new guy). I love my country.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by k9ine(m): 8:00pm On Jan 04, 2011
Has security just become a concern now, it has become a concern even in the times of OBJ.
This is what yhey should ask themselves.

How come the NPF and other security agencies, broke down to a point where they cannot account for what happens. (I give an example. You know the Anti-Terrorism Force ATF, in my state Delta, it got to a stage where they became security to escort bank money. I saw this koro koro. They become escort for the governor then; Uduaghan.)

What is the guarantee that the new terrorisim chief and his dept, wont be body guard for the evecutive and Senathieves and Represenathieves, then the citizenry will be left to their own fate.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SALARY EARNING STATION. MARK MY WORDS.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by xterra2(m): 9:00pm On Jan 04, 2011
[size=14pt]Install CCTVs when there is no light ? , though it is a good idea no dout about that but if PHCN strikes, the CCTVs go off, like non-solar streetlights in Abuja,
But maybe they would budget Billions for fueling of the CCTV embarassed
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But i hope our Nigerian Police wont be stalking people on it
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Eziachi: 9:17pm On Jan 04, 2011
Many Nigerians unfortunately, whether educated or not, still has this military cloud all over them and are yet to re-tune their mentality as how democracy works. An average Nigerian does not believe that the bucks stop with a leader whatever happens in his domain. One them asked me recently, what crime got to do with a governor?   Is the governor a police man? He foolishly asked and he is a polytechnic teacher in Nigeria.
I told him that the governor calls himself chief security officer and collect millions of money annually to that effect, so if there is peace, he should take the credit and if the opposite is the case, he should also take the bullet.

This mentality is the reason most Jonathan's supporters can't understand why bomb that is exploding around their leader isn't a good image of a leader that knows what he is doing. Every good and bad police man works for him and when they are not doing their jobs, it will come back to him as their leader and that is the way it works. And he should personally talk and communicate to those he claims to serve more as most democratic leaders do, rather than talking through a third party all the time. There is nothing like listening to your leader, then reading his body language as he speak on issues. But presently, Nigerian culture is that every Dick and Harry seems to speak from someone else.
Whenever someone is quoted, it always seems to be someone else talking in behalf of the person, of which the quoted person can deny anytime if it ended up badly.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Eziachi: 9:21pm On Jan 04, 2011
xterra2:

[size=14pt]Install CCTVs when there is no light ?  , though it is a good idea no dout about that but if PHCN strikes, the CCTVs go off, like non-solar streetlights in Abuja,
But maybe they would budget Billions for fueling of the CCTV  embarassed
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But i hope our Nigerian Police wont be stalking people on it

It is called buying the spare Tyres and [b]Petrol [/b]before actually buying a car.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Holla2: 9:23pm On Jan 04, 2011
xterra2:

[size=14pt]Install CCTVs when there is no light ? , though it is a good idea no dout about that but if PHCN strikes, the CCTVs go off, like non-solar streetlights in Abuja,
But maybe they would budget Billions for fueling of the CCTV embarassed
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But i hope our Nigerian Police wont be stalking people on it

^^back to square one! Fix the system and every other thing would fall in line. How could you be thinking of CCTV when power is an apology.
Overhaul the security agencies and they would live up to responsibility. How could you be thinking of Anti-terrorism squads when the force is not motivated and adequately trained? Are u going to recruit officers from Congo?
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by trueword: 10:39pm On Jan 04, 2011
nakosm4u:

I strongly believe some Nigerians don't know what to say before saying all kinds of rubbish. Who says such appointment is a clueless idea. Take for instance USA. USA has FBI, NSA, NASA, POLICE, CIA, CTU etc. Counter Terrorists Unit (CTU) is responsible for terrorism which the police does not deal with. Instead of raining insults on the president, we should contribute positively towards building a better Nigeria.

One thing you need to realize is that the FBI, Police, CIA, etc in U.S. ACTUALLY WORK. If the U.S. or any other western country adds in another agency for fighting terrorism it is mostly to complement and improve what the other agencies are already doing.

In Nigeria, Police, SSS, and all those other useless agencies don't work. Before you go and create more agency why don't Jonathan try to fix the current ones to see the extent to which they can handle the situation. A well trained police force and SSS may be able to take care of these kinds of issues.

It's too bad in this election we don't really have any candidates that will really bring huge positive changes. We are stuck with choosing between the lesser of the evils.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Dede1(m): 11:10pm On Jan 04, 2011
@POST

GEJ is a rare political interloper. Only a novice can label him as an imitator.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by marvix(m): 11:37pm On Jan 04, 2011
At the end of the emergency security meeting yesterday, it was announced that an adviser to the president is to be named in the next one week. Although the name of the adviser was not revealed, it was gathered that the announcement was delayed because of the need to make some consultations and carry out some security checks on the appointee.


I dont know if I missed something here, it was an adviser to the president that was to be announced not an agency, the adviser to be announced is not to head an agency but supposed to be a direct adviser to the president.

I have said on this forum severally that the problem of this country is the high number of uneducated literates, these people think they know but actually they dont know and this is the worst type of fools you can have around, it is easy to lead a very educated and enlightened group because they understand, it is possible to lead stark illiterates who know that they know not because they know that they dont know but it is very impossible to lead uneducated literates because they think they know what they have no clue about.

An adviser to the president on Terrorism is meant to be the presidents eye on security matters and especially terrorism matters, he is supposed to be able to take decisions on behalf of the president even in his absence, these are the people that work on all the details before the president can give approval to anything, he is expected to have unrestricted acess to the president and all security issues he can receive briefings on behalf of the president he can give go aheads while he works on details for the president to be kept up on speed, the president who has a reelection bid on his table can not always be expected to take briefings from all security agencies, analyse their submissions and make his decisions.

Advisers to the president are not ordinary people because at a point they can make the job of the ministers difficult and impossible but that is in a case where they are involved in flexing of muscles, as you can see the President delayed the announcement because we have to be double sure of his records.

For all those talking about the CCTVs in Abj it has been commisioned today and is running, I dont think this was done overnight, it sure had been on the cards but with all that is happening all the red tape that had hindered its commisioning and use was cut.

Bureaucracy and procedures are normal in any large organisation, we cannot run Nigeria like a private primary school, even a bank or a private coy that has a turnover of N1b, has different advisers to the MD, not to talk of the President of a republic like Nigeria.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by trueword: 12:21am On Jan 05, 2011
marvix:

At the end of the emergency security meeting yesterday, it was announced that an adviser to the president is to be named in the next one week. Although the name of the adviser was not revealed, it was gathered that the announcement was delayed because of the need to make some consultations and carry out some security checks on the appointee.


I dont know if I missed something here, it was an adviser to the president that was to be announced not an agency, the adviser to be announced is not to head an agency but supposed to be a direct adviser to the president.

I have said on this forum severally that the problem of this country is the high number of uneducated literates, these people think they know but actually they dont know and this is the worst type of fools you can have around, it is easy to lead a very educated and enlightened group because they understand, it is possible to lead stark illiterates who know that they know not because they know that they dont know but it is very impossible to lead uneducated literates because they think they know what they have no clue about.

An adviser to the president on Terrorism is meant to be the presidents eye on security matters and especially terrorism matters, he is supposed to be able to take decisions on behalf of the president even in his absence, these are the people that work on all the details before the president can give approval to anything, he is expected to have unrestricted acess to the president and all security issues he can receive briefings on behalf of the president he can give go aheads while he works on details for the president to be kept up on speed, the president who has a reelection bid on his table can not always be expected to take briefings from all security agencies, analyse their submissions and make his decisions.

Advisers to the president are not ordinary people because at a point they can make the job of the ministers difficult and impossible but that is in a case where they are involved in flexing of muscles, as you can see the President delayed the announcement because we have to be double sure of his records.

For all those talking about the CCTVs in Abj it has been commisioned today and is running, I dont think this was done overnight, it sure had been on the cards but with all that is happening all the red tape that had hindered its commisioning and use was cut.

Bureaucracy and procedures are normal in any large organisation, we cannot run Nigeria like a private primary school, even a bank or a private coy that has a turnover of N1b, has different advisers to the MD, not to talk of the President of a republic like Nigeria.

Since you are infering that you are not one of the supposed uneducated illiterates, tell us what the purpose of an anti-terrorism chief when you have a national security advisor. Isn't it the job of the NSA to advice the president on how to handle these kind of issues.

look in the mirror before you label others as uneducated
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by marvix(m): 12:53am On Jan 05, 2011
trueword:

Since you are infering that you are not one of the supposed uneducated illiterates, tell us what the purpose of an anti-terrorism chief when you have a national security advisor. Isn't it the job of the NSA to advice the president on how to handle these kind of issues.

look in the mirror before you label others as uneducated


The NSA is an agency of government in the security department just like PHCN is an agency of government in the Ministry of power.

The MD of PHCN is not doing the same job as the adviser to the president on power.

An adviser is a representative of the president, he can speak for the president, he can give provisional approval for whatever the MD needs, the same way this Adviser on Terrorism will take the briefs of the National Security Adviser.

If you must note the adviser does not really have a constitutional role he is like an assistant to the president on issues, like the terrorism adviser would be an assistant to the president on terrorist issues.

If the NSA has info and need the presidential approval to move or need to brief the president they dont have to wait to see him they would be working closely with the adviser who would be on hand can take decisions on behalf of the president, the NSA chief can never take a decision on behalf of the president.

The role of this adviser is to assist Jonathan with the coordination of all security agencies including the SSS,Police,Army,DMI and all other security related units and organisations, the IG does not and can not report to the Chief of Army staff, same for the DG of the SSS ditto for the Director of the SSS, they all report to the president, the COAS reports to the president thru his CDS, at some point he does not have to share intel with the police, but when they all meet the presidential adviser its just like meeting the president and this is one reason why a politician will never be named as that adviser!!!
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Nobody: 12:57am On Jan 05, 2011
trueword:

One thing you need to realize is that the FBI, Police, CIA, etc in U.S. ACTUALLY WORK. If the U.S. or any other western country adds in another agency for fighting terrorism it is mostly to complement and improve what the other agencies are already doing.

In Nigeria, Police, SSS, and all those other useless agencies don't work. Before you go and create more agency[b] why don't Jonathan try to fix the current ones to see the extent to which they can handle the situation.[/b] A well trained police force and SSS may be able to take care of these kinds of issues.

It's too bad in this election we don't really have any candidates that will really bring huge positive changes. We are stuck with choosing between the lesser of the evils.
]sensible opinion and if i may ask,what does the national security adviser do ?
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Ayatullah(m): 1:36am On Jan 05, 2011
@Beaf, it is quite unfortunate that you are part of the human race, yet Allah knows best. If the love of naira has so much blind you and your folks that the next solution to stopping the rate bombs explode all over the place now in Nigeria is the appointment of an Anti-terrorism Chief or the positioning of CCTV camera all over the places, then you people have really confirmed that you are born drunkards.

What a shame that your man cannot face the nation and talk to Nigerians directly concerning  the new year eve bombing.

I believe its time for Ima Niboro to take over the presidency. Shame on you drunkards and may Allah punish you all for the souls lost through  your CLUELESS LEADERSHIP.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by trueword: 2:11am On Jan 05, 2011
~Bluetooth:

]sensible opinion and if i may ask,what does the national security adviser do ?

is that supposed to be a serious question? what does the title say? Its like asking what does the manager of a store do.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by trueword: 2:23am On Jan 05, 2011
marvix:


The NSA is an agency of government in the security department just like PHCN is an agency of government in the Ministry of power.

The MD of PHCN is not doing the same job as the adviser to the president on power.

An adviser is a representative of the president, he can speak for the president, he can give provisional approval for whatever the MD needs, the same way this Adviser on Terrorism will take the briefs of the National Security Adviser.

If you must note the adviser does not really have a constitutional role he is like an assistant to the president on issues, like the terrorism adviser would be an assistant to the president on terrorist issues.

If the NSA has info and need the presidential approval to move or need to brief the president they dont have to wait to see him they would be working closely with the adviser who would be on hand can take decisions on behalf of the president, the NSA chief can never take a decision on behalf of the president.

The role of this adviser is to assist Jonathan with the coordination of all security agencies including the SSS,Police,Army,DMI and all other security related units and organisations, the IG does not and can not report to the Chief of Army staff, same for the DG of the SSS ditto for the Director of the SSS, they all report to the president, the COAS reports to the president thru his CDS, at some point he does not have to share intel with the police, but when they all meet the presidential adviser its just like meeting the president and this is one reason why a politician will never be named as that adviser!!!

How is one person an agency? So when Gusau was appointed the NSA by Jonathan he by himself was an agency? Please think before you type. Gusau who was vying for presidency was not a politician ehh?

What is the differnce between advising on national security and terrorism? is terrorism not an issue of national security. Let Jonathan stop side-stepping the main issue which is to reform the police to actually do their job of helping with security in addition to actually creating a budget that will be more for capital expenditure and not salaries. If the youths causing trouble had access to good education system and then when they come out have access to jobs that pay good wage, then they will have less temptations to listen to all these people that influence them with money to wreak havok on society.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Demdem(m): 8:32am On Jan 05, 2011
^^^ he is probably reffering to the office of the NSA (National Security Adviser). Me think its the climax of all security agencies in the country as at today and reports directly to the president.
I still insists that all the present security outfits we av in the nation today is more than able (if only they are well administered) to face and tackle our security challenges. No need yet for a new one abegiii.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Vigilante: 8:54am On Jan 05, 2011
Now one Adviser reports to another Adviser who reports to the President. Is that it?
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Nobody: 10:08am On Jan 05, 2011
Nigerians need to wake up and stand up for the truth
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by chuqudy(m): 11:49am On Jan 05, 2011
Ola edo:

What a dumb move.Very dumb of him to do. Then what is the function of the other security offices?! Instead of the dude to try and restructure what is already there, like the police force, as various governors have suggested, he is appointing an Anti-terrorism chief.smh. Is he this dumb?

You are a confused mad man. You and all others who criticise this move by the president. You and your fellow anti Jonathans would never see any good in what Jonathan is doing. All you need is the coming back of Antichrists like Atiku, Ibb, Saraki, etc. This your agenda will never work.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by DeeJay20: 12:12pm On Jan 05, 2011
You guys should chill, as someone rightly
said this is a waste of funds and time,
And police do not fight these kinds of threat to security
Thats why we have the S.S.S, Nigerian Military Intelligence ie Army
Navy & Airforce Intelligence

And since last year when this Stupid Bombing started at Independance Day its now become a habit at Strategic days.

It all Internal.

So the the S.S.S should handle this.

Nigeria wants to have a CTU [Counter Terrorism Unit] ROFLMAO!!!

WHERE IS THE NAIJA JACK BAUER LOL!!!

Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by orgasm(m): 12:18pm On Jan 05, 2011
same old song. Acting after the battle. Never proactive but reactive.
Our govt need to be proactive on varied issues and be futuristic thats the only way we can be focused and achieve our goals.
Hope this is not another political settlement
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by juman(m): 12:37pm On Jan 05, 2011
This is very good idea and very good step by Mr. President. He needs to take terrorism seriously because Nigeria = Pakistan.
Mr. President is not a specialist on terrorism therefore he needs adviser to coordinates counterterrorism activities of the government.
He should appoint a specialist not politician. But certainly the objective of having the terrorism adviser would be defeated, because nothing works well in Nigeria.
Congratulation to the new terrorism adviser in advance, another billionaire in waiting.
I think Mr. President suppose to have addressed the nation during the bombing, the address needed to be very short and he needed to be careful in order not to make mistake and not be misquoted.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by Igbani2013: 1:07pm On Jan 05, 2011
Jonathan should ensure that south eastern universities re open with nothing less than 100,000 youths sitting at home we can expect nothing less than increase in violent acts.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by ocelot2006(m): 2:34pm On Jan 05, 2011
Maybe the reason behind the proposed office is to co-ordinate the activities of the various counter-terror units such as the Police Anti-Terror Sqaud (ATS), Army Special Forces Group, Navy's Special Boat Service (SBS), and the counter-terror wings of the various intelligence services i.e SSS, DIA, NIA. But I advise that office should come under the purview of the office of the NSA.
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by 9ijaMan: 3:20pm On Jan 05, 2011
ocelot2006:

Maybe the reason behind the proposed office is to co-ordinate the activities of the various counter-terror units such as the Police Anti-Terror Sqaud (ATS), Army Special Forces Group, Navy's Special Boat Service (SBS), and the counter-terror wings of the various intelligence services i.e SSS, DIA, NIA. But I advise that office should come under the purview of the office of the NSA.
The reason behind the proposed office is simply to create another conduit through which money will siphoned to fund GEJ's failing presidential campaign! grin
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by jaygetta1: 3:42pm On Jan 05, 2011
I really feel bad for Beaf, all this Cyber-Ra*pe wey guys dey subject am to. . . Turn after turn, dem just dey treat my guy like worthless 10kobo ashewo! ROFLMAO! If this was real life, Beaf would have been a severely traumatized being!
Re: President Jonathan To Appoint Anti-terrorism Chief by coachstar: 11:43pm On Jan 05, 2011
Please let us not bash each other.Jonathan's appointing of an anti terrorism chief is not a bad idea.the US has homeland security of which d head is a cabinet member.when there is attempted terrorism the Homeland overrides the police but pull in their resources as well as other security agencies.
UK Has COBRA,German has an Anti Terror and Responce Squad.But we should think about re other issues that cause terrorism in Nigeria.Example Illiteracy,Tribalism,Ethnic divide,Religious and Political issues and Unemployment and under development.if our leaders can address some of these issues it will reduce these acts.and as par who 2 lead this country 2011 i have not seen an angel GEJ isn't and neither are d rest

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