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The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:09am On Apr 30, 2020
The Issue of Freewill & Allaah’s statement “You do not will unless Allah wills” – Shaykh Uthaymeen
Bismillaah

لِمَن شَاءَ مِنكُمْ أَن يَسْتَقِيمَ
For whoever wills among you to take the straight path (Surah al-Takwir Verse 28)

“For whoever wills” is connected to what came before it, “It is only a reminder to the worlds, for whoever among you wills to take the straight path“. As for those who choose not to take the straight path, they neither accept the reminder, nor do they gain any benefit from it. Allah says about those who do accept the reminder:

إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَذِكْر َ لِمَن كَانَ لَهُ قَلْبٌ أَوْ أَلْقَى السَّمْعَ وَهُوَ شَهِيدٌ
In that is surely a reminder for whoever has a heart or listens while he is heedful. [Sūrah Qāf, 50:37]

For anyone who does not want to take this straight path, there is no way to benefit such a person with this Qur’an.

The Issue of Freewill:
Here is a question: Do people actually have freewill to do as they choose? Yes, people have the freedom to choose as they will. Allah (عزّ وجل) has allowed each person the freedom of choice and freewill; if he wants, he does something, if not he does not do it.

If this were not the case—if people had no freewill—then anyone to whom the messengers were sent would have an excuse against Allah to plead (because they disbelieved): “We had no choice in the matter.”

So yes, people certainly have the freedom to act on their choices. Each individual knows that if he decides, for example, to visit Mecca, Medina, or some other place, it is by his choice. Anytime a person makes a choice, it is by his own decision. He neither feels others force his choice on him or force him to prefer one thing over another.

Similarly, if an individual chooses to obey Allah, it is by his own choice. And should someone choose to commit a sin, it is also by his own choice. So people do have freewill yet we know with total certainty that people will never “will,” or actually make something happen (including his own actions), unless Allah has willed it to happen before it happens. For this reason, after “For whoever wills among you to take the straight path” Allah then clarifies: “And you do not will unless Allah wills“.

We do not will for anything to happen unless Allah has already allowed it to happen. So when anything happens, we know Allah has obviously allowed it to take place. If Allah had not allowed it to happen, we could not have willed it to occur ourselves as Allah (تعالى) says:

وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلَ الَّذِينَ مِن بَعْدِهِم مِّن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ وَلَكِنِ اخْتَلَفُوا فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ آمَنَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن كَفَرَ ۖ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلُوا
If Allah had willed, those (generations) succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to them. But they differed, so some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. And if Allah had willed, they would not have fought each other. [Sūrah al-Baqarah, 2:253]

So after we have done anything, we know we chose to do it based on our will and choice, but we also know that this occurred by the will of Allah (عزّ وجل), If he had not willed it, we would not have accomplished it.

Now we come to another question: Based on the points above, we then have an excuse to commit sins because whatever happens, Allah allows it and has willed it. We say no, we have no justification for sinning because we have no way of knowing whether Allah has willed something or not until after we have done the deed – after we have chosen to do it. We cannot say, “Allah has willed this for me,” until the sin has already taken place. So once the sin does take place, once it is committed, why was it committed? Because of our freewill and our choice to do it. Therefore, sinners have no justification or excuse before Allah. He nullifies this claim by saying:

سَيَقُولُ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا لَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا أَشْرَكْنَا وَلا آبَاؤُنَا وَلا حَرَّمْنَا مِن شَيْءٍ ۖ كَذَلِكَ كَذَّبَ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِهِمْ حَتَّى ذَاقُوا بَأْسَنَا
Those who associated others (in worship) with Allah will say, “If Allah had willed, we would not have associated partners with him, nor would our fathers, and we would not have forbidden anything (against his will).” Likewise, those before them denied until they tasted our punishment. [Sūrah al-An’ām, 6:148]

If they had any justification for making their Shirk (worshipping others with Allah), then they would not have been punished by Allah; they would have been spared the punishment. But they had no right or excuse to worship others, so they were punished. As another example, consider that if someone were informed about a land, safe and peaceful, with sufficient provision and affluence for everyone, everywhere and with successful commerce and a strong economy not found in another land. At the same time, the person is also told of a land where people constantly fear for their lives, live in chaos, having no reliable economy, no law and order, no guaranteed safety for anyone. To which land would he choose to travel? Of course, he travels to the first land and he does not imagine someone, somewhere has forced him to make his decision. He chose the first land based on his own determination and freewill.

We have before us now a similar choice: a path to good and a path leading to evil. Allah has already clearly simplified the two for us: this is the path to Paradise, this one to Hell.

In addition, he explained some of what is waiting for us in Paradise of blessings and enjoyment and some punishments that await us in the fire. Which path do we take? Clearly, we would choose the path to Paradise just like we would choose to move to the peaceful land over the land in turmoil. Had we chosen the path to the fire, we alone would have justifiably been to blame. We would have made the worst, most foolish choice just as if we had decided to move to the land of fear and instability. Everyone would understandably hold us responsible for our own choice.

Therefore, in Allah’s statement “For whoever wills among you“, he confirms that each individual has the choice and will to decide his actions; he has freewill. Still, we know that even before we do or will anything, once it has happened, we know full well that Allah willed it to happen. Otherwise, it would not have occurred.

Many times, people become determined to do something, yet at the last minute they find themselves unable to do it for whatever reason. This is because Allah did not will such an action to take place. For example, we may decide to go to the mosque to attend a lecture, yet on our way there, we may then remember we have some other obligations which prevent us from attending.

As a final example, it is said that a common Bedouin, knowing little about the details of religion, was asked, “How do you know you have a Lord?” he answered, “By unfulfilled determination and changes in plans.” In other words, a person may be fully determined to do something, completely resolved and able to do it. Yet, something totally contradictory to his intentions occurs. Who changed his resolve? He does not think someone made him prefer something over his original decision. Instead, Allah simply did not will it to happen.

Similarly, a person may plan to do something and sets out to accomplish his plans, but he then finds within himself some reason not to carry out his plans. It may be something physically preventing him or simply a change of mind; he decides to do something else instead. All of this is from Allah (عزّ وجل).

Source : Explaining Sūrah al-Takwīr – Shaykh Muḥammad Ibn Ṣāliḥ al-‘Uthaymīn. Translated by Abu az-Zubayr Harrison

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Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by tintingz(m): 9:11am On Apr 30, 2020
Lol, I see dishonesty here, let see.

Now we come to another question: Based on the points above, we then have an excuse to commit sins because whatever happens, Allah allows it and has willed it. We say no, we have no justification for sinning because we have no way of knowing whether Allah has willed something or not until after we have done the deed – after we have chosen to do it. We cannot say, “Allah has willed this for me,” until the sin has already taken place. So once the sin does take place, once it is committed, why was it committed? Because of our freewill and our choice to do it. Therefore, sinners have no justification or excuse before Allah. He nullifies this claim by saying:

So in your claim here, if someone isn't sure that Allah has will something changes Allah's omniscient ability that he hasn't will it before creation?

This doesn't make any sense, does Allah will something long before creation as he can see the fate of everyone or will it the moment you do the act?

Kindly answer and let move on.
Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by tintingz(m): 9:14am On Apr 30, 2020
Another contradiction.

If they had any justification for making their Shirk (worshipping others with Allah), then they would not have been punished by Allah; they would have been spared the punishment. But they had no right or excuse to worship others, so they were punished. As another example, consider that if someone were informed about a land, safe and peaceful, with sufficient provision and affluence for everyone, everywhere and with successful commerce and a strong economy not found in another land. At the same time, the person is also told of a land where people constantly fear for their lives, live in chaos, having no reliable economy, no law and order, no guaranteed safety for anyone. To which land would he choose to travel? Of course, he travels to the first land and he does not imagine someone, somewhere has forced him to make his decision. He chose the first land based on his own determination and freewill.

Quick question,

Long before you're created does Allah know your fates?

Can you deviate from what Allah sees on your fate?

Kindly answer this.
Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by tintingz(m): 9:17am On Apr 30, 2020
Ok, let's see another flaws.

Therefore, in Allah’s statement “For whoever wills among you“, he confirms that each individual has the choice and will to decide his actions; he has freewill. Still, we know that even before we do or will anything, once it has happened, we know full well that Allah willed it to happen. Otherwise, it would not have occurred.

Quick question,

If Allah is omniscient and can see all fates, does Allah sees his own fates?

Can he deviate from his fates?
Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by tintingz(m): 9:28am On Apr 30, 2020
As a final example, it is said that a common Bedouin, knowing little about the details of religion, was asked, “How do you know you have a Lord?” he answered, “By unfulfilled determination and changes in plans.” In other words, a person may be fully determined to do something, completely resolved and able to do it. Yet, something totally contradictory to his intentions occurs. Who changed his resolve? He does not think someone made him prefer something over his original decision. Instead, Allah simply did not will it to happen.

All your example shows either there's isn't an omniscient God or freewill or destiny are illusions, I hope you know what illusion is.

Your first example is base on CONFIRMATION BIAS. "Until you do something then Allah has will it", this is confirmation bias. How did you even know Allah just willed it?

I don't know why muslims are dissonance when it comes to omniscient, freewill and destiny argument, is it that you guys don't know the definition of these things or y'all are afraid of falling into a trap?

Choosing right or wrong isn't the question, if God can know your fate before he created you, can you deviate from this? Whether you have choices or not, can you deviate from your fate?
Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:29am On Apr 30, 2020
tintingz:
Lol, I see dishonesty here, let see.



So in your claim here, if someone isn't sure that Allah has will something changes Allah's omniscient ability that he hasn't will it before creation?

This doesn't make any sense, does Allah will something long before creation as he can see the fate of everyone or will it the moment you do the act?

Kindly answer and let move on.
I had answered you in your thread as I wish to keep this thread sane.

This is part of the believe of the unseen which an atheist is unable to grasp!

You will later ask "where did Allaah write the destiny?" Which paper did He use? What kind of pen and ink? Until you request for the proof of existence of God Himself!
Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by tintingz(m): 10:14am On Apr 30, 2020
Rashduct4luv:

I had answered you in your thread as I wish to keep this thread sane.

This is part of the believe of the unseen which an atheist is unable to grasp!

You will later ask "where did Allaah write the destiny?" Which paper did He use? What kind of pen and ink? Until you request for the proof of existence of God Himself!

You're the one making up things.

No where I asked of the book of destiny or request to see what's in the book of destiny, whether you see it or not doesn't change the fact that you're doing what's in the book of destiny and you can't do anything outside what's written in the book.

Then freewill doesn't exist, it's just an illusion to you as your reality is base on a book of destiny.

I don't know why it's hard for you to understand.
Re: The Issue Of Freewill & Allaah's Statement... by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:28am On Apr 30, 2020
tintingz:


You're the one making up things.

No where I asked of the book of destiny or request to see what's in the book of destiny, whether you see it or not doesn't change the fact that you're doing what's in the book of destiny and you can't do anything outside what's written in the book.

Then freewill doesn't exist, it's just an illusion to you as your reality is base on a book of destiny.

I don't know why it's hard for you to understand.

OK, bye.

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