JhayJoe:
They have bodyguards to protect themselves and their familes yet they give their members only stickers to protect themselves

Tsolutionifede:
hahaha, but the girl dress well now

JhayJoe:
They have bodyguards to protect themselves and their familes yet they give their members only stickers to protect themselves

Dantedasz:



I actually wanted thankgod460 to respond but it is all good you got where I was going.
The leaders of religion do NOT believe in this so called grace.
All the leaders provide all the paraphernalia of adequate security for themselves but ask their followers to believe in a hopeless and impotent grace!

thankgod460:


Get this, not all that portrait themselves as men of God are true men of God. By their fruits you shall know them, I am not here to judge.... I didn't support men of God using security.
I know prophets and apostles of olds demonstrated the power of God to the world then. To those who engaged the use of security, I believed they will have something to say about it. I'm not here to judge.
But as for grace : Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high place[/b]s.
Don't combined grace and physical affairs......

Dantedasz:



Why do Christians always quote their religious book in arguments with atheists that don't believe in the book?
Don't you understand that it is just like a mormon or a Muslim quoting his religious book in an argument with a christian.
The point is that the leaders of the church don't believe in this grace or holy spirit or blood of jesus you are parroting. They only use these terms and phrases to deceive their gullible followers. The leaders of the church are realists that know that there is no security in any grace. The only security they believe in lies in the barrel of a gun and hiding behind bullet proof glass..

thankgod460:

I cannot just be emphasizing on religion related issues without quoting from our holy book. If you are an atheist, why not minding your business and let us remain gullible as you said

Bluehill1051:
Keep quiet! Fool!

thankgod460:


Grace function as a free gift from God through the death of his only begotten son which gives us access to God directly without going through any priests for sacrifice either for requests or pardon.

Tobechuckwu:

U already have a biased opinion about the whole thing.
I'm not blaming the girl,but there was no precautions method put in place. What if she was robbed of her belongings also because she was going there alone at night?
I still repeat myself, d church was on lock down during the time which was highly risky going there alone at night, but that doesn't justified what was done to her. The society is dirty already, evil is everywhere and my Bible tells me the heart of men is Desperately wicked.
My God is just, so u can't put it on God. God is a righteous judge.
The evil men will be fished out nd face their judgement.

frank317:


Hmmm... OK grace gives us access to God, nice. So what is the advantage of this access? What can the person who has the grace (that can access the creator of this whole wold) achieve or do in this world that I can't do because I don't have grace...

Dantedasz:




This is hilarious.
If Christian's stopped disturbing our peace with the loud speakers and amplifiers they place on top of their worship houses. If jehovah's stopped knocking on our doors asking to preach to us. If Christian's stopped pushing their pamphlets into our cars. If you guys stopped preaching to me on a public forum like this one trying to convince me that god came to earth through a virgin and then died on a stake in order to prevent him burning me in an everlasting hell fire incinerator,then maybe then I will stop trying to prove the lack of logic and reasoning in religious beliefs.
Just imagine someone coming on a public forum to peddle myths and yarns and expect not to be challenged!

frank317:

Was ur just God capable of doing anything about her situation or not.

Tobechuckwu:

My God is more than capable.

Suky01:


why are you calling him fool. Rather than answer his question with logic and reason if you have any you choose to display your ignorance.

I would say you're the fool here

thankgod460:


Get this, not all that portrait themselves as men of God are true men of God. By their fruits you shall know them, I am not here to judge.... I didn't support men of God using security.
I know prophets and apostles of olds demonstrated the power of God to the world then. To those who engaged the use of security, I believed they will have something to say about it. I'm not here to judge.
But as for grace : Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Don't combined grace and physical affairs......

hayoholla:


Thankgod, is this the best answer you can give
Is this even tenable to your reasoning if you ask me the same question, and I give you this same reply Please answer me!!!

thankgod460:


Of course is justifiable, I am not using any security and God is protecting me. How did you want me to speak for people using security.

thankgod460:


We can never stop preaching, because God loves you, please come into his marvelous light JESUS and he will set you free. Shalom

hayoholla:


Those who died from various cause at one point during their lifetime has uttered this statement, still, they met their Waterloo! Can you justify that too? The world is not perfect, neither you or your ideas, beliefs, principles are, so don't try and make your religion or your god perfect!

hayoholla:


And they can never stop questioning too!

maynia:


I have been lucky, that's all

So, Have you ever wondered why USA, Canada, UK china, Norway have more life expectancy than African countries?

These country are less religions than us so why do they live longer? Most of them don't believe in God, so what are they doing different??

Over 200 people die of Malaria everyday in Nigeria.
Nigeria has the biggest church in Africa and the World yet people die like chicken because of what?
You have grace until you are DEAD

bigname23:
see southkorea for ur list dey have d biggest church in d world and Russia and America has more percentages of christains than Nigeria so stop peddling ur unproved theory Mr know know

KingAzubuike:
Coincidentally, the bible seems to even support rape. All you gotta do is pay her bride price and you're as free as a bird.

Exodus 22: 16-17

If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and sleeps with her, he shall give the bride-price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride-price for virgins.

Also read

Deuteronomy 22:28

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

maynia:


The more religious a nation is the more backward.

Mention the church in South Korea

maynia:


The more religious a nation is the more backward.

Mention the church in South Korea

maynia:


The more religious a nation is the more backward.

Mention the church in South Korea

thankgod460:


Give me examples.

bigname23:
dis ur list is manipulated because we all know dat North Korea is d least religious country in d world ...a Nation where most of their people are suffering and a dictator is trying to claim relevance acquiring nuclear weapons ...as Nigeria bad reach dey will prefer leave deir country to cum here

thankgod460:

We are ready for their questions

hayoholla:


Examples of what So you want to imply that you are guaranteed a never ending life, so long you are xtian? That his grace covers you absolutely! Do I even need to give you examples when there's one trending online. Mr Man, don't present submissions that will impede the progress of this discourse/argument, like the one you wrote up their asking for example