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Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by Conductor261: 3:08pm On Jun 15, 2020
In a May 2006 survey, Porsche was awarded first place as the most prestigious luxury automobile brand by Luxury Institute, New York; it questioned more than 500 US households with a gross annual income of at least $200,000 and a net worth of at least $750,000

Mercedes was awarded second place, and Toyota's Lexus division, third.

There are a number of problems with this, and I will attempt to explain why Lexus doesn't belong on this list.

The first problem with this survey is that it did not give an adequate definition of prestige. Is it based on single factors such as technological innovation, engines, heritage, performance brands, awards, average transaction prices, owner demographics, or parent company/acquisitions, or is it a culmination of all of these things?

Lexus doesn't belong on this list for a number of reasons. Let's break it down:

1. Technological innovation: The most marketed event in the brand's history was the "invention" of the hybrid system. This was hardly an innovation--in fact, it was just the opposite. Audi has been at the forefront of hybrid testing and research since the late 1980's, releasing their first prototype in 1988. Audi was also the first premium brand to bring to market a hybrid vehicle, the DUO, in 1997. Why is Lexus credited with inventing hybrid when all they did was copy existing technology?

Look closer, and you'll find a number of other technologies on Lexus cars is a copy of what you see on the competition first, and often is brought decades after it was originally created.

2. Engines: How many of Lexus engines have made Ward's 10 Best--regarded as the benchmark in engine testing and ratings? Three, including the 3.5L V6. Audi, on the other hand, has been named on that list a total of nine times, representing five engines. BMW has been named seventeen times, representing six engines. Where is a Lexus V12 engine? What do they have to show in the form of diesel technology and development? Clearly, the engines Lexus produces are inferior to these two less "prestigious" brands.

3. Heritage: What heritage? Born in 1989, and according to Lexus designers and engineers, ADMITTEDLY a copy of Mercedes.

4. Performance brands: In Europe, and across the world, performance brands are what separate near luxury from true luxury brands, and explains Audi S, BMW M, and Mercedes AMG cars. Huge amounts of money are spent on the development, engineering, and testing of such vehicles--not to mention the costs associated with producing them. Where is Lexus' performance brand?

5. Awards: The only awards associated with Lexus are long-term quality related. Never mind engineering, driveability, performance, drive trains, interior awards, and international recognition. As was pointed out in a previous article, the difference between Lexus vehicles and the worst vehicles under JD Power & Associates 3 year quality ranking was just THREE problems. Then, there's the issue of how you even define what a PROBLEM is--is it bad cupholders, a badly placed doorhandle, or something mechanical? This study doesn't do a good enough job of differentiating between the two.

Bottom line, Lexus so-called "quality" is incredibly over rated.

6. Average transaction prices: Audi's and BMW's average transaction prices (read, more available higher priced models) trumps the Lexus average significantly. This is because while the most expensive Lexus model is a mere $72k, Audi's most expensive model is the $118k A8 W12 and BMW's most expensive model is the $119k 760Li. Not to mention numerous S and M performance vehicles.

7. Owner demographics: Both BMW and Audi boast higher percentages of college graduates with higher income than your typical Lexus buyer.
Re: Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by Conductor261: 3:08pm On Jun 15, 2020
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Re: Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by alphaNomega: 4:07pm On Jun 15, 2020
I can bet you've never driven the 4th generation Lexus LS 460

Lexus are more conservative with innovation especially in the engine area. They use "familiar" tech over there so you're likely to have stuff that is less likely to break and easy to fix it ever does. Unlike BMWs that bring out new engines that are plagued with novel issues, frustrating the average car guy.

This Lexus still uses a 1ur, naturally-aspirated V8 at a time when it's competitors (A8s, 7series, S-class etc) came pre-installed with forced induction power plants.

Go through the frequent complains across these cars and you would see that engine problems are the least of your worries with the 2005-2012 LS460. Not the same story for the other cars

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Re: Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by Conductor261: 7:37pm On Jun 15, 2020
alphaNomega:
I can bet you've never driven the 4th generation Lexus LS 460

Lexus are more conservative with innovation especially in the engine area. They use "familiar" tech over there so you're likely to have stuff that is less likely to break and easy to fix it ever does. Unlike BMWs that bring out new engines that are plagued with novel issues, frustrating the average car guy.

This Lexus still uses a 1ur, naturally-aspirated V8 at a time when it's competitors (A8s, 7series, S-class etc) came pre-installed with forced induction power plants.

Go through the frequent complains across these cars and you would see that engine problems are the least of your worries with the 2005-2012 LS460. Not the same story for the other cars

SIMPLE LEXUS WAITS 3-4 YEARS TO COPY MERCEDES TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATIONS....

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Re: Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by alphaNomega: 10:44am On Jun 16, 2020
Conductor261:


SIMPLE LEXUS WAITS 3-4 YEARS TO COPY MERCEDES TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATIONS....
and that is why they are DURABLE

In your life, how many times have you seen a Lexus broken down by the roadside? No matter the model year? How about Mercedes-Benz? grin

I accept estimated figures

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Re: Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by nurey(m): 11:39am On Jun 16, 2020
Conductor261:


SIMPLE LEXUS WAITS 3-4 YEARS TO COPY MERCEDES TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATIONS....

Tell Mercedes Benz to stop innovation, wait for others to do it then copy it shikena. At least if you will copy, do it well. Nah person wey pass know book and Toyota/Lexus has demonstrated it several times by staying at the top in vehicle manufacturing.

Let Benz be patient as Lexus is already losing its grip but will the Koreans allow?

just passing by in my Equus.
Re: Lexus Should Not Be Regarded As A Prestigious Brand by fabienjoe: 1:12pm On Jun 16, 2020
Luxury is not necessarily about technical data. It's about what the product offers. It's holistic, looking at the final product rather than the sum of it's parts. I bet 99% of luxury car buyers have no idea about these technical details the OP reeled out, and wouldn't care less. They are only concerned about what their Lexus does for them versus what others do. That is what informs brand perception.

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