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Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by butterfly777(m): 5:01pm On Jun 21, 2020
Source: https://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/klopp-has-already-achieved-more-than-guardiola-in-england/o7nuoctp565q1uuzflp0n94v9

The former Anfield favourite has expressed his belief that the Liverpool manager's recent success puts him above his Manchester City counterpart
Jurgen Klopp has already achieved more than Pep Guardiola in English football, according to Stan Collymore.

Guardiola inherited the managerial reigns at Manchester City in 2016, and has since delivered eight major trophies, including back-to-back Premier League titles.

The Spaniard is widely revered as the finest manager of his generation, having also won numerous titles at both Barcelona and Bayern Munich, but he has always benefitted from strong financial backing in the transfer market.

Klopp arrived in England with a similarly sterling reputation in 2015, after guiding Borussia Dortmund to two Bundesliga crowns, and he quickly set about stamping his own mark on a Liverpool squad devoid of confidence.

The German head coach has gradually affected significant change on a limited budget over the last five years, overcoming early growing pains to create a side which is now considered to be among the strongest in Europe.

Liverpool won the Champions League last season, and look set to add an elusive Premier League title to their trophy cabinet this summer, with Klopp credited for being the mastermind in their ascent to the top.

Collymore says the Reds boss has had a greater impact at Anfield than Guardiola has had at Etihad Stadium, and that he is well on his way to earning a place in English football's hall of fame.

The former Liverpool striker wrote in his latest column for The Mirror: "If Jurgen Klopp carries on like this he will go down as one of the all-time great managers – not just at Liverpool but in English football history.

"His buying and building of a team, his management of his players, his demeanour and his achievements are first class.

And if he can back up last season’s European Cup win, and this season’s Super Cup, Club World Cup and Premier League triumphs with two or three more titles, maybe another Champions League and a domestic cup or two, then he will quite rightly be talked about in the same breath as Sir Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankly, Brian Clough, Bob Paisley, Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola.

In terms of what he has achieved in England, I’d even put Klopp ahead of Guardiola now. Manchester City were already four, five or six years into a project when Guardiola arrived at the Etihad, whereas Klopp pretty much had a standing start at Anfield by comparison.

“I know some people will point to the £75 million-plus Klopp splurged on Virgil van Dijk and £56 million on Alisson. But others have spent those sorts of sums several times over without the return Klopp is enjoying.”

I don't agree with this. Guardiola experienced success in England in a shorter period of time than Klop, winning everything winnable in England and setting records.

Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by butterfly777(m): 5:05pm On Jun 21, 2020
Both are great managers. But talking about achievements in England, Guardiola is leading klopp right now. Though Klopp has done better in Europe.
Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by thesicilian: 5:17pm On Jun 21, 2020
Based on total number of trophies in the past 5yrs: Guardiola

Past two seasons generally: Klopp

Performance in Europe: Klopp

Performance in England: Guardiola

Considering amount of money at their disposal over the past 5yrs : Klopp has done better

Performance in transfer market: Klopp

Overall career performance: Guardiola

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Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by butterfly777(m): 5:30pm On Jun 21, 2020
thesicilian:
Based on total number of trophies in the past 5yrs: Guardiola

Past two seasons generally: Klopp

Performance in Europe: Klopp

Performance in England: Guardiola

Considering amount of money at their disposal over the past 5yrs : Klopp has done better

Performance in transfer market: Klopp

Overall career performance: Guardiola

I like your unbiased analysis.

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Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by Bossman25(m): 6:35pm On Jun 21, 2020
What performance are u talking about?
Is it someone that has been at England much more before Guardiola came in?

Someone has won 8-9 trophies alone in England and the Ignorant bigot is comparing with someone that just won his 1st trophy in England last year.

This year alone klopp will only win 1 trophy, while Guardiola is in the running for 2 trophies e.g F.A Cup and Champions League. 1 already in the Bag,

So tell me how his he more successful than Guardiola in england,

Klopp's record do not compare to even Jose Morinho even despite mourinho not winning champions league with an English team....

Guardiola has tasted 2 premier leagues, Klopp just his first one....Klopp no F.A cup, No Carling Cup, No Community Shield.....and he is successful in England?...Chaii


quote author=thesicilian post=90918436]Based on total number of trophies in the past 5yrs: Guardiola

Past two seasons generally: Klopp

Performance in Europe: Klopp

Performance in England: Guardiola

Considering amount of money at their disposal over the past 5yrs : Klopp has done better

Performance in transfer market: Klopp

Overall career performance: Guardiola[/quote]

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Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by kenzysmith: 7:11pm On Jun 21, 2020
kloop to me is the real deal went to mainz when they are at second division bring them to the bundesliga established them and went to dortmund that have been finishing 9th won the bundesliga took thembto tje champions league Final with them now came to Liverpool them at 9th position. took them to 3 European finals in a row win one now on the verge of winning the this guy is the miracle of football.
Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by thesicilian: 7:58pm On Jun 21, 2020
Bossman25:
What performance are u talking about?
Is it someone that has been at England much more before Guardiola came in?

Someone has won 8-9 trophies alone in England and the Ignorant bigot is comparing with someone that just won his 1st trophy in England last year.

This year alone klopp will only win 1 trophy, while Guardiola is in the running for 2 trophies e.g F.A Cup and Champions League. 1 already in the Bag,

So tell me how his he more successful than Guardiola in england,

Klopp's record do not compare to even Jose Morinho even despite mourinho not winning champions league with an English team....

Guardiola has tasted 2 premier leagues, Klopp just his first one....Klopp no F.A cup, No Carling Cup, No Community Shield.....and he is successful in England?...Chaii


I don't think I follow your argument. Can you clarify? Because I didn't say klopp is better than guardiola in England.
Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by paulolee(m): 8:06pm On Jun 21, 2020
for me its pep over klop anytime anyday bt his main problem is missing out of dt elusive ucl..even without that ucl i still think pep have done soooo much for city than what klop did because city won all trophies in england, did the league twice and was soo consistent for a longer period of time...they was even a tims that pep oiled dt city machine and created a bug fear factor either in ethihad or away dt NO CLUB IN ENGLAND STOOD A CHANCE OF FACING CITY EVEN THE BIG GUNS...

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Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by butterfly777(m): 9:12pm On Jun 21, 2020
Pep had more suçcess in England, and in less time.
Both of them spent money.
Both of them joined an ongoing developing project. As in, there clubs had been investing in players , with different levels of success.

Pep has it.
Re: Klopp Has Already Achieved More Than Guardiola In England. Do you agree? by Jokerman(m): 9:19pm On Jun 21, 2020
Bossman25:
What performance are u talking about?
Is it someone that has been at England much more before Guardiola came in?

Someone has won 8-9 trophies alone in England and the Ignorant bigot is comparing with someone that just won his 1st trophy in England last year.

This year alone klopp will only win 1 trophy, while Guardiola is in the running for 2 trophies e.g F.A Cup and Champions League. 1 already in the Bag,

So tell me how his he more successful than Guardiola in england,

Klopp's record do not compare to even Jose Morinho even despite mourinho not winning champions league with an English team....

Guardiola has tasted 2 premier leagues, Klopp just his first one....Klopp no F.A cup, No Carling Cup, No Community Shield.....and he is successful in England?...Chaii


quote author=thesicilian post=90918436]Based on total number of trophies in the past 5yrs: Guardiola

Past two seasons generally: Klopp

Performance in Europe: Klopp

Performance in England: Guardiola

Considering amount of money at their disposal over the past 5yrs : Klopp has done better

Performance in transfer market: Klopp

Overall career performance: Guardiola

in England...

Mou > Pep

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