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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 11:45pm On Aug 04, 2020
AntiWailer:


I have always made sense.

I just want u to drop Ur "it is their fault mentality" and move on and take Ur destiny in Ur hands bro.

You could av resigned and moved on.

I am not talking it, I once had 2 offer letters from 2 different banks at the same time cos of the skill I am very proficient in.

There are people who rose from 180k entry level to collect 1million naira net in banking within 10 years ask around or check people's transactions on pay day
My dear, 180k to 1milli in 10yrs doesn't happen again since post credit crunch of 2009. Besides I never spoke about money. I spoke about career growth, self development, cognate value addition.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by AntiWailer: 12:03am On Aug 05, 2020
FellaG:

My dear, 180k to 1milli in 10yrs doesn't happen again since post credit crunch of 2009. Besides I never spoke about money. I spoke about career growth, self development, cognate value addition.

It still happens.

Just take that from me.

The strategy is that u dnt stay in one bank and before that can happen u need to acquire required skills and keep developing urself .

Your career growth, self development , cognate value addition are all dependent on you.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Emmycool85: 12:58am On Aug 05, 2020
Invest your time in IT my man...Be a guru in whatever specialty you choose. Below are a few examples of good paying IT certificates. If you are good at what you do, you don't have to leave Nigeria to work in the field, trust me. Personally, I would go for AWS....

Google Certified Professional Cloud Architect (GCP)
AWS Certified Solutions Architect—Associate.
Certified Information Security Manager (CISM)
Certified in Risk and Information Systems Control (CRISC)
Project Management Professional (PMP)
Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP)

FellaG:

Thank you very much for your piece. I so much appreciate it. I have a business already. Infact I have two ongoing but I feel I need to have a high paying skill one which I can make a name with or get paid in dollars for, or one which I can consult for multinationals etc. I lost out on trends really, I will really appreciate if anyone can point me in that direction. Many thanks
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by MondayOsunbor(m): 1:03am On Aug 05, 2020
Wiinnd:
Can I send you an Email? Please!

sure
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Ambasado4lyf: 1:04am On Aug 05, 2020
FellaG:
Wow.. Thanks moderator.
Thanks to everyone that has contributed. Be sure to know that many will learn and benefit from my experiences and the plenty advice given here. Thanks everyone I sincerely appreciate


You're refine. Kudos
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Ambasado4lyf: 1:10am On Aug 05, 2020
Excuses:
OP listen!

Just finished reading your ordeal..u said ur already into one or two things fetching income for u at the moment..
Becareful otherwise u're gonna crash and burn..don't be over zealous over what to invest ur money into plus the Nigerian economy is really tight right now..take things slowly..don't rush them..

Those high tech business ur mentioning are not easy to start..people are making good suggestions up there for you..be smart..be brave..everything in Nigeria now requires wisdom..

Am an agricultural student..and i can tell you boldly that these profession is inexhaustible..people feed every day..You can start by buying food stuffs from north-central here to the east..

Whatever business u choose..!
LET IT BE WHAT PEOPLE CAN NOT DO WITHOUT..Daily!


Apt!
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by MegaStarr(m): 1:54am On Aug 05, 2020
14june:



All this that you mention bro. What qualification deoe someone need for this?
I need an answer brother.

Visit nairaland programming section and search for Data science. You'll see a post by Ejiod on how he made a transition. You'll gain insights from there.

You can take free courses from edx.org or coursera.org

All-in-all, it will require a great deal of determination and mental fortitude but it's worth it in the end.

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by MegaStarr(m): 1:55am On Aug 05, 2020
NicemanJosh:

I think I also got something from your suggestion above. I have had interest in this data science of a thing. How do I go about it please?
Is there anyway you can help?
I really need your help on this please, this is my whatsapp number or drop yours for me 07088136002

Good to know that. You can reach me on 08024575350. Cheers
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by showafrica(m): 4:13am On Aug 05, 2020
brandnprinting:
At age 40 if you are thinking of learning and working as programmer is worst life decision you will ever make.

I thought i was the only one thinking that.. Programing and co takes time and you need patience to perfect. 40yr old brain and body no fit get that patience.... Young lads will always beat you in the game.. Bc they have all the time and a learning brain.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by rinzaugustine: 6:03am On Aug 05, 2020
Why would you eave the job you have for uncertainty and now coming online to seek advice on a faceless forum.I don't understand
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by divineappo(m): 6:04am On Aug 05, 2020
FellaG:

Thank you very much for your piece. I so much appreciate it. I have a business already. Infact I have two ongoing but I feel I need to have a high paying skill one which I can make a name with or get paid in dollars for, or one which I can consult for multinationals etc. I lost out on trends really, I will really appreciate if anyone can point me in that direction. Many thanks
if u want to earn dollars

Go into export of hibiscus flower to the USA, that's what I do

Let me ask, how much do you have?
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 6:07am On Aug 05, 2020
rinzaugustine:
Why would you eave the job you have for uncertainty and now coming online to seek advice on a faceless forum.I don't understand
You wouldn't.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 6:10am On Aug 05, 2020
AntiWailer:


It still happens.

Just take that from me.

The strategy is that u dnt stay in one bank and before that can happen u need to acquire required skills and keep developing urself .

Your career growth, self development , cognate value addition are all dependent on you.
You are right. It's just that the work was too tasking physically and mentally so at the end of the day one is spent. But those are just excuses. I'm looking at the bright side now. I appreciate your contributions. Thank you
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by JunctionBox: 7:22am On Aug 05, 2020
Edemoski:
Chief try this Microsoft free courses, I would suggest you venture into data analysis.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/06/30/microsoft-launches-initiative-to-help-25-million-people-worldwide-acquire-the-digital-skills-needed-in-a-covid-19-economy/



Las Las we go de alright. Cheers

Wow. Have gone through the link, I must confess quite helpful, broad enlightening. Thanks for bringing it up.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by AntiWailer: 7:23am On Aug 05, 2020
FellaG:

You are right. It's just that the work was too tasking physically and mentally so at the end of the day one is spent. But those are just excuses. I'm looking at the bright side now. I appreciate your contributions. Thank you

Yes Bro, they are EXCUSES.

I am very happy u can see the bright side now.

I am genuinely sorry for being hard on you.

Attempt the QA path and I am sure u will be happy u did.

I wish you best of luck My Brother.

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Deprofessional(m): 7:39am On Aug 05, 2020
I will need page 7 of this thread
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by JunctionBox: 7:48am On Aug 05, 2020
Quite insightful thread. Wish I could read everything.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Deprofessional(m): 7:54am On Aug 05, 2020
Op, please are you married?

If not, please go and get married to an industrious lady.

Thank me after 5 years.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Midex88(m): 8:14am On Aug 05, 2020
Willie2015:


Oga,
What did you do with all those loans ...
Available to staffs... From
Personal loans, Cooperative Loans.. Consumer Loans ...
Upfronts... Profit Sharin.... Share loans ...
Medical upfronts...etc...


Those loans and bonuses are not there like it used to be before

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by LyfeJennings(m): 10:46am On Aug 05, 2020
U must have been a contract staff
I work in a bank and the pay is sweet
Life has changed for the better so go and siddon

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 10:53am On Aug 05, 2020
LyfeJennings:
U must have been a contract staff
I work in a bank and the pay is sweet
Life has changed for the better so go and siddon
That was how I thought 8yrs ago.

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by LyfeJennings(m): 12:00pm On Aug 05, 2020
FellaG:

That was how I thought 8yrs ago.

Guess U didn't plan well
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 12:21pm On Aug 05, 2020
LyfeJennings:


Guess U didn't plan well

I've kept on saying that I am comfortable but career dead. How do u guys skip that part? After working for 10yrs,you will realize that money is not everything. Earning 200k as a bachelor without time for other things seem like a big deal. Earn the same 200k for another 10yrs being married with kids, yet with no time of your own or freedom to pursue your ambitions or career growth then comeback here and say what u said again.

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 12:24pm On Aug 05, 2020
Deprofessional:
Op, please are you married?

If not, please go and get married to an industrious lady.

Thank me after 5 years.
What has Industrous lady got to do with my seemingly dead career? I have 2 businesses myself, does that mean I am not Industrous? Pls stick to career advise and not money because after leaving the bank I am comfortable.

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by LyfeJennings(m): 12:32pm On Aug 05, 2020
FellaG:


I've kept on saying that I am comfortable but career dead. How do u guys skip that part?

Oga go into private practice
The thingy about banking is using what I have to get what I don't have
I'm presently an ABO but once I get confirmed
I'd leave to another bank and I'm going to be asking for SBO.
I don't have problem with deposit since my papa gallant
In ur own case, at ur age, na private practice U go go into
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 12:34pm On Aug 05, 2020
LyfeJennings:


Oga go into private practice
The thingy about banking is using what I have to get what I don't have
I'm presently an ABO but once I get confirmed
I'd leave to another bank and I'm going to be asking for SBO.
I don't have problem with deposit since my papa gallant
In ur own case, at ur age, na private practice U go go into
Thanks for contributing. tho with ur level of experience u should listen more

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by scriptures01: 12:47pm On Aug 05, 2020
The best advise you will get is this:
Find a problem that is facing Nigerians daily, look for a solution.
You will see yourself embarking on a journey that will build you and reward you financially.
Never go into any field based on mere recommendation, do the research yourself. It will save you heartache in the future.

Dunning-Kruger Effect states that, “the knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good
at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task.
meaning - the less you know about a field, the more you overestimate your own ability in relation to that field.
the more you know about a field, the more you underestimate your own ability in relation to that field

Now you are at a cross road, the Dunning-kruger effect will definitely come into play here, you will get a lot of suggestions
and will definitely overestimate your ability to succeed in those field.
Instead of looking for trending skills, look for problems around you and go into overdrive on how to solve those problems
and you will be amazed that people will be willing to pay you for the solution.
Elon Musk is a classic example, he had identified problems in the US (NASA high cost of payload, ineffective electric cars,
etc) and he went on overdrive and came up with solutions to NASA issue, electric cars etc and soon is on his way to becoming the richest man soon.

I left Nigeria few years ago and when I arrived in my new environment, I noticed a problem here and it had to do with the payment system
I started searching for ways to solve the issue and finally found it.
When I launched the solution I was amazed at the number of people begging to take their money to use my service.
It changed my life.

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by FellaG: 12:59pm On Aug 05, 2020
scriptures01:
The best advise you will get is this:
Find a problem that is facing Nigerians daily, look for a solution.
You will see yourself embarking on a journey that will build you and reward you financially.
Never go into any field based on mere recommendation, do the research yourself. It will save you heartache in the future.

Dunning-Kruger Effect states that, “the knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good
at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task.
meaning - the less you know about a field, the more you overestimate your own ability in relation to that field.
the more you know about a field, the more you underestimate your own ability in relation to that field

Now you are at a cross road, the Dunning-kruger effect will definitely come into play here, you will get a lot of suggestions
and will definitely overestimate your ability to succeed in those field.
Instead of looking for trending skills, look for problems around you and go into overdrive on how to solve those problems
and you will be amazed that people will be willing to pay you for the solution.
Elon Musk is a classic example, he had identified problems in the US (NASA high cost of payload, ineffective electric cars,
etc) and he went on overdrive and came up with solutions to NASA issue, electric cars etc and soon is on his way to becoming the richest man soon.

I left Nigeria few years ago and when I arrived in my new environment, I noticed a problem here and it had to do with the payment system
I started searching for ways to solve the issue and finally found it.
When I launched the solution I was amazed at the number of people begging to take their money to use my service.
It changed my life.
Thanks so much. What an inspirational piece!
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by tensazangetsu20(m): 3:25pm On Aug 05, 2020
scriptures01:
The best advise you will get is this:
Find a problem that is facing Nigerians daily, look for a solution.
You will see yourself embarking on a journey that will build you and reward you financially.
Never go into any field based on mere recommendation, do the research yourself. It will save you heartache in the future.

Dunning-Kruger Effect states that, “the knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good
at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task.
meaning - the less you know about a field, the more you overestimate your own ability in relation to that field.
the more you know about a field, the more you underestimate your own ability in relation to that field

Now you are at a cross road, the Dunning-kruger effect will definitely come into play here, you will get a lot of suggestions
and will definitely overestimate your ability to succeed in those field.
Instead of looking for trending skills, look for problems around you and go into overdrive on how to solve those problems
and you will be amazed that people will be willing to pay you for the solution.
Elon Musk is a classic example, he had identified problems in the US (NASA high cost of payload, ineffective electric cars,
etc) and he went on overdrive and came up with solutions to NASA issue, electric cars etc and soon is on his way to becoming the richest man soon.

I left Nigeria few years ago and when I arrived in my new environment, I noticed a problem here and it had to do with the payment system
I started searching for ways to solve the issue and finally found it.
When I launched the solution I was amazed at the number of people begging to take their money to use my service.
It changed my life.
Amazing post but poverty is the greatest problem in Nigeria. Fix poverty and many of Nigeria's problems will disappear and poverty keeps on increasing in the zoo. It's now the world's poverty capital and getting worse.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by BiggyB242(m): 3:54pm On Aug 05, 2020
rinzaugustine:
Why would you eave the job you have for uncertainty and now coming online to seek advice on a faceless forum.I don't understand

Baba I wonder, I will rather build my career around the job I have had for 10 years

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Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by Magic1: 4:32pm On Aug 05, 2020
truthsayer009:


Thanks for this detailed explanation. It was until this year that I discovered that most Software Engineers in Banks are employed by big tech vendors who have signed agreements with the bank, so the employees are directly under those vendors on contract. Quite weird, that alone is a red flag for me.

I also found out recently from a GTB staff that you get promoted every 4 years as GTB staff. Maybe she was lying, maybe not.

All in all, 360k-380k is a good income if growth is allowed, but promotion twice in 10 years feels like Israelites in the land of Egypt.


For market facing staff (marketers), you can even earn promotion every year (very rare these days) but it’s guaranteed 2-3years upon excellent performance. Please note that some spend years on same grade and that’s because they performed below expectations. To avoid remaining on same grade for too long, Banks then introduced “notch”, this way, a staff can move along the notch line (steps) but still on same grade but salary keeps increasing minimally until normal promotion comes.
One can get an outright promotion without necessarily moving along the notch line but it’s based on excellent performance. It’s also easier for marketers to move from one bank to the other and such movement comes with next level which is the same as promotion but in a different bank but be rest assured of pressure to deliver on set target.

Growth is easier for marketers while the back office staff (operations, internal control/compliance, IT staff etc) can remain on same grades for years. I know of a bank where the operations manager spent 13 years on same grade. She was not alone. So many others experienced that.
Re: Do Not Accept A Banking Job - I Refused To Listen by brandnprinting: 5:07pm On Aug 05, 2020
showafrica:


I thought i was the only one thinking that.. Programing and co takes time and you need patience to perfect. 40yr old brain and body no fit get that patience.... Young lads will always beat you in the game.. Bc they have all the time and a learning brain.

Some people here are urging him on. I am not discouraging anybody but for somebody at that age and being a family man it is better he find another job or start a business then he can then study programming a side hustle.

But programming as the main hustle no dey easy o. I am talking from experience.

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