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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Olayinka8793(m): 11:39am On Jul 04, 2020
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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Mariangeles(f): 11:41am On Jul 04, 2020
paulolee:
nice stats and i think they all have thier own opinions and for the fact that di maria is still an active player and he played with both during thier prime, and still choosed messi means alot. mayb its d agentina factor, mayb him no want make agentina gv am d icardi treatment..

I'd say Di Maria's judgment was biased.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by paulolee(m): 11:43am On Jul 04, 2020
Righteousness89:
For me the greatest player is Nigeria's little Messi! I have forgotten his name!

That our under 17 guy!
u mean stanley okoro

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by helpfindbolu: 11:44am On Jul 04, 2020
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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Righteousness89(m): 11:48am On Jul 04, 2020
paulolee:

u mean stanley okoro

Yeah! That's his name? Pls where is he now?
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by gift01: 11:49am On Jul 04, 2020
Righteousness89:
For me the greatest player is Nigeria's little Messi! I have forgotten his name!

That our under 17 guy!
Stanley Okoro

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by paulolee(m): 11:49am On Jul 04, 2020
Mariangeles:

I'd say Di Maria's judgment was biased.
Y biased?? di maria had a mutual relationship with cr7 bk in madrid naa..

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by paulolee(m): 11:55am On Jul 04, 2020
Righteousness89:


Yeah! That's his name? Pls where is he now?
joined abia warriors since 2016, mayb his village people is still on his matter because he did nothing bk in almeria and he flopped successfully wen loaned to cherno utd before he was sent back to Nigeria...was in abia warriors dt 2016 but i think i heard he moved to plateu united of recent but he is still in our naija league mayb because there is no place like home...

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Andrew13: 11:56am On Jul 04, 2020
Lol no ronaldo
messi is king
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Beverlyjean(f): 12:00pm On Jul 04, 2020
Most of these players up there still play with messi either thru club or national teams...how many of them still play with ronaldo presently without messis influence ??

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by focus7: 12:03pm On Jul 04, 2020
It doesn't matter who anybody chose nor how good Messi plays, I will always give it to CR7, he's my football hero any day.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by bosstim(m): 12:03pm On Jul 04, 2020
This comparison is faulty.. Reason been that 80% of the players are Messi kins men so we all expect the bond between them and Messi to be naturally stronger hence the tendency of them picking Messi over Ronaldo is very high..
obembet:
Arthur will become the 13th player to star alongside Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. The 23-year-old midfielder will link up with the Old Lady at the end of the season after a fee of £66million was agreed.

Messi vs Ronaldo is arguably football's biggest rivalry - and you're in one camp or the other. The verdict on who is the best will rage forever, but who better to judge which one comes out on top than those who have played with them?

Here, SunSport looks at the other 12 players to have graced the pitch with both and finds out which one they preferred.

Paulo Dybala
Currently a club team-mate of Ronaldo and international pal of Messi - Dybala refused to commit to either when asked which of the two was best.

The Juventus and Argentina ace diplomatically claimed: “It is impossible to make a comparison between the two of them or say who is the best.

"They are at a level on a par with each other and well above everybody else and that has been the case for several years.”

RESULT: Draw

Deco
The midfield maestro played alongside Messi - who is reportedly set to quit Barcelona - during the Argentine's early days at the Nou Camp - while featuring alongside Ronaldo for Portugal.

But when asked to end the "who's better" debate, Deco opted against naming EITHER - instead of choosing former Barcelona pal Ronaldinho.

Deco revealed: "From the outset, it is clear that Leo and Cristiano are the greatest.

"Especially because no one thought they could take so many years to this level, but the one that impressed me most despite not being so decisive was Ronaldinho.

"For me, he will always be the best.

"We met in Barcelona and immediately connected with him, the moments I lived with him are difficult to compare to anything. It was magical."

RESULT: Draw

Angel Di Maria
The Paris Saint-Germain winger teamed up with Ronaldo at Real Madrid - where they won the 2014 Champions League - and has played many times with Messi for his country.

But on who was better, Di Maria claimed Messi was the one, saying: "It was a dream to have the possibility to play with [Wayne] Rooney, [Zlatan] Ibrahimovic, Cristiano [Ronaldo], Leo [Messi]...

“Leo is the best of the four.

"With all the great players I have played with, it's hard to choose. But if I had to pick one, it would be Leo.

“Messi is the best in the world – there is no question about that.

“When I am an old man I will tell my grandchildren bedtime stories about when I won the Champions League, hopefully when I won the World Cup...

"But most of all I will tell them their grandfather used to play with Lionel Messi.”

RESULT: Messi

Gabriel Heinze
The Argentine left-back played with Ronaldo at Manchester United and Messi for his country - but their paths would have crossed at Newell's Old Boys too, when Messi was a lad.

Over the years, Heinze has had his say on both.

In 2008, he claimed: “If I had to pay for one player I would choose [Ronaldo].

“I don’t think Cristiano will get any better as a footballer, he is already next to God in his ability.”

But in 2016, he added: “Leo is inexplicable. Footballistically, he does not come from this planet. And as a person, he leads such a quiet life that is admirable.”

Despite his glowing praise, technically he did not overturn his decision to name Ronaldo in 2008...

RESULT: Ronaldo

Gonzalo Higuain
Currently playing alongside Ronaldo at Juventus - after a spell together at Real Madrid - and Messi for Argentina, Higuain knows all about both.

And he revealed: “[Ronaldo and I] had already played together with Real. Many years have passed, and I have found another player, a more mature person, with a family.

“I enjoyed playing alongside him before and I am glad that we are back together.

“I’m a forward and I have the chance to play with Messi. It’s a privilege to play alongside him.

“Every time he gets the ball you need to be on your toes because you know that at any moment he can give you a great ball or pull your marker away from you.

“He does things that a striker can anticipate but a defender can’t.”

RESULT: Draw

Fernando Gago
Another former Real team-mate of Ronaldo who played alongside Messi for Argentina, Gago was in no doubts as to is the better player.

Gago claimed: “For me he [Ronaldo] is not No1. For me, the best in the world is Messi because of the way he plays, moves with the ball and changes matches.

“Messi has incredible ability and I love the way that he plays.

“We know that he has the ability to win a match in half a second and that gives you peace of mind.

“In every game I have the feeling that he can make us win at any time. Messi’s way of leading is with the ball, sometimes a glance is enough.

“He has an incredible personality, he understands the game perfectly, he has fought for 14 years to be the best without letting himself down, and that shows how he is.

“He is the best I have seen in my life, without a doubt.”

RESULT: Messi

Ezequiel Garay
YET another former Los Blancos team-mate of Ronaldo who starred on the international scene with Messi, Garay also ranks Leo as the No1.

Garay revealed: "When people ask me who is the best player ever, I say Leo.

“From the first time I saw him with Argentina Under-15s to this day he continues to amaze me. He has no limit.”

RESULT: Messi

AndreLarsson
The Everton midfielder spent two years playing alongside Messi at Barcelona and is captained by Ronaldo for the Portuguese national team.

And he claimed: “[Ronaldo] is a very important player, who is always present and ready to play.

“He is very serious about the responsibility of leading our country, we have a great spirit, and he’s a great example for all of us.

“Everyone knows that Messi is very, very good. He does things in games that you cannot explain; he just knows different things and can do it.

“In training, it is a show, because every day he can invent something new.

"You think you’re used to it, but there is always one day you go to the dressing room surprised by something he has done.”

RESULT: Draw

Henrik Larsson
Swedish legend won the Champions League with Messi, early in the Barca star's career, and played 13 times alongside Ronaldo during his loan spell at Old Trafford.

But Larsson knows who he'd choose, saying: “Cristiano is unlucky to be playing at the same time as Messi.

"Ronaldo is a very good player, but Messi is even better.

“He is out of this world. He’s so good that it’s almost incredible.

"When you see him with the ball at his feet it’s hard to believe that anybody else could do the same. He’s a fantastic player to see.”

RESULT: Messi

Gerard Pique
Pique played with Ronaldo early in his own Man Utd career and is now a long-serving team-mate of Messi at the Nou Camp.

He has his favourite though, saying: “Cristiano is a perfect machine, a hard worker who always wants to improve.

“I always said that Messi has some talent that no one has.

"For me it’s like Messi is not human but [Ronaldo] is the best of the humans.”

RESULT: Messi

Nelson Semedo
Having won back-to-back LaLiga crowns at Barcelona, along with the Uefa Nations League with Portugal, Semedo has enjoyed success with both Messi and Ronaldo.

And he claimed: “Real Madrid have noticed [Ronaldo's] absence a lot.

“I cannot say that it was bad for [Barcelona] that Cristiano left. With him it would have been a more difficult league for us, more competitive.

"He is a player that requires a lot of attention and care.

“Messi is spectacular. It’s a privilege to play with him, he always surprises, he’s from another planet.”

While the quotes suggest he favours Messi, there is no concrete evidence to prove it, so this goes down as a draw.

RESULT: Draw

Carlos Tevez
A former Man Utd team-mate of Ronaldo during some trophy-laden years and a long-serving Argentina colleague of Messi, Tevez knows both stars very well.

On the debate, he said: “Cristiano always stopped in the gym after training: for him it is an obsession and, being the best in everything.

“Messi plays another sport. For Messi to score three goals [in any given game] is normal.”

Much like Semedo, while it feels Tevez would sway towards Messi, he's not come out and said it just yet...

RESULT: Draw

Who is the winner?
WITH six draws from the 12 players, many were either unsure of who is truly better or unwilling to rock the boat.

But of the six who did commit to giving an answer, FIVE chose Messi, with just one player picking Ronaldo.

Who do you think is the greatest?

Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12023011/ronaldo-vs-messi-debate-players/amp/

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by fergie001: 12:04pm On Jul 04, 2020
paulolee:

Y biased?? di maria had a mutual relationship with cr7 bk in madrid naa..
If you had asked Di Maria whilst he was in Madrid, he won't give you a verdict but for now he is off Madrid and off United (CR7's second home), he can tell you Messi because of the National Team.

Synonymous with if you ask Semedo now, he won't give you an answer...the moment he leaves Barca..he will sing Ronaldo to the world.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Dalil8: 12:04pm On Jul 04, 2020
joviegghead:
Hmm. Let me be objective. Ronaldo is great, fantastic, super.
Messi is divine.
I don't know why it's so hard to see.
How can one player, lead the charts for goals scored, assists, dribbles completed, chances created and more, while the other is only goal-famous and you still ask who is better?
How can one player out class all midfielders in Europe? This same player does the job of all wingers better? How this same player outscore all strikers?

Remember, Ronaldo has played about 120 games than Messi yet the output Messi has produced defies understanding and surpassing everyone.

Imagine: I give 2 guys to cook. The first guy in one hours cooked rice and chicken. The second guy, in 45 mins, cooked rice, chicken, salad, soup, moin moin, spaghetti and more.

And you're asking which one will I pick?

Messi is the GOAT. If you like Ronaldo because he is handsome or flashy, that's your problem.

Your problem....



CR7 remains the G.O.A.T

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by mdchikezie(m): 12:06pm On Jul 04, 2020
MOST WHO VOTED DRAW ARE RONALDO COUNTRYMEN BECAUSE THEY TRULY KNOW WHO'S BEST
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by lordkay10(m): 12:10pm On Jul 04, 2020
joviegghead:
Hmm. Let me be objective. Ronaldo is great, fantastic, super.
Messi is divine.
I don't know why it's so hard to see.
How can one player, lead the charts for goals scored, assists, dribbles completed, chances created and more, while the other is only goal-famous and you still ask who is better?
How can one player out class all midfielders in Europe? This same player does the job of all wingers better? How this same player outscore all strikers?

Remember, Ronaldo has played about 120 games than Messi yet the output Messi has produced defies understanding and surpassing everyone.

Imagine: I give 2 guys to cook. The first guy in one hours cooked rice and chicken. The second guy, in 45 mins, cooked rice, chicken, salad, soup, moin moin, spaghetti and more.

And you're asking which one will I pick?

Messi is the GOAT. If you like Ronaldo because he is handsome or flashy, that's your problem.
You've said it all. Most CR7 fans are just sentimental because of his looks, you need not argue with them because they all know Messi is the best but it's hard for them to admit, they're in a state of cognitive dissonance.
Even the Ronaldo they worship knows Messi is better than him
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by vicetuh: 12:10pm On Jul 04, 2020
LIKE IT OR NOT BOTH ARE GREAT BUT CR7 HAS EDGE OUT...... LET MESSI WIN INTERNATIONAL TROPHY WITH THE QUALITY PLAYER HE HAS IN ARGENTINA. CR7 WON ONE WITH A TEAM THAT IS BELOW IN AVERAGE.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by oyepaulkay(m): 12:10pm On Jul 04, 2020
Righteousness89:
For me the greatest player is Nigeria's little Messi! I have forgotten his name!

That our under 17 guy!

Stanley Okoro grin grin grin

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Odunayomi247(m): 12:17pm On Jul 04, 2020
we suppose don end this Messi-ronaldo comparison,we don tire
let's start another comparison like rashford-mbappe,martial-sancho etc
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by banhammy: 12:19pm On Jul 04, 2020
Messi : Barcelona champion.

Ronaldo: Real Madrid champion
Ronaldo: Manchester United champion
Ronaldo: Juventus champion
Ronaldo: Portugal European champion.

The rest is left for you to decide.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Cyoung4real(m): 12:22pm On Jul 04, 2020
For this comparison to balance, Messa need to come out and play with other players and clubs like Ronaldo let's see if he can still perform miracles in the pitch.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Mariangeles(f): 12:23pm On Jul 04, 2020
paulolee:

Y biased?? di maria had a mutual relationship with cr7 bk in madrid naa..

He made that statement to intentionally spite Real Madrid...I think he was having problems with them at the time.
...and you know Perez hardly joked with anything that had to do with Ronaldo.

Going by his (Di Maria's) statement, you can observe how he emphasized and stretched it a bit further, while other players when asked were always careful with their words.

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by FirstbornWds: 12:24pm On Jul 04, 2020
Why is Pjanic not on the list?
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jul 04, 2020
Juve shortchanged themselves by giving Pjanic up, Arthur isn't the shit. Rafinha (at Celta Vigo) would have been a better alternative.
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Olarewaju89: 12:35pm On Jul 04, 2020
Humanoid01:
Arthur is a good player, he's just been inconsistent recently. The introduction of Riqui Puig has just made things a little more difficult for him. That kid (Puig) is a beauty to watch. He has some traits of Iniesta in him.

You are right bro. I love the way that kid play football, is like magic to me. Shot, passes and control ball like Iniesta.
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by AustineCJ: 12:46pm On Jul 04, 2020
paulolee:
nice stats and i think they all have thier own opinions and for the fact that di maria is still an active player and he played with both during thier prime, and still choosed messi means alot. mayb its d agentina factor, mayb him no want make agentina gv am d icardi treatment..
Dmaria choose Messi after he has left Madrid..... he wouldn't have choosen any had it been he is still in Madrid with Ronaldo. check at Dybala, Semedo they all went on draw cause they don't want to offend any. After nigerian politicains fear Footballers .

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by chinchonglee(m): 12:54pm On Jul 04, 2020
bosstim:
This comparison is faulty.. Reason been that 80% of the players are Messi kins men so we all expect the bond between them and Messi to be naturally stronger hence the tendency of them picking Messi over Ronaldo is very high..
Mtchewww... Even Ronaldo's Kinsmen couldn't pick him.
Instead they went for a draw.

Whether u like it or not MESSI is the best player in the world of soccer. I hated him before but now i had no option than to live with it

So my brother better live with it as well...
I am a pure Ronaldo fan but that nonsense MESSI won't jst let him be.
Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by chinchonglee(m): 12:58pm On Jul 04, 2020
Cyoung4real:
[s]For this comparison to balance, Messa need to come out and play with other players and clubs like Ronaldo let's see if he can still perform miracles in the pitch[/s].
U re a clown... He has scored against every top clubs from all the top leagues... What do you want him to do again

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Re: Arthur To Be 13th Star To Play With Messi & CR7... How Do The Rest Compare Duo? by Dyonne: 1:01pm On Jul 04, 2020
The biggest problem is that things like this actually make it look like there is an argument or debate about who is better between the two footballers.

In reality, CR7 is nowhere in Messi's league or class. While he is an extraordinary player, Messi by far outclasses him.

Generations from now, our kids and grandchildren not affected by club sentiments will ask us why we ever thought to compare the two.

Just like when my brother asked me what was so special about Rambo, what was so scary about Willy Willy or what I saw in The Sound of Music.

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