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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Gerrard59(m): 9:46pm On Jul 05, 2020
Slynation:

You keep saying viewing right worth millions of dollars but have refused to acknowledged the fact it's the same football matches that amounted to such funds (around €250m)

They should cease showing sports naw, then watch how most people will dump DSTV like bad habit...

The viewing rights of the EPL is different from that of the Champions League amounting to €350M ($450M). Furthermore, these viewing rights are meant only for the Nigerian market. However, Multichoice is not generating substantial revenues to recoup her investments considering the devaluation of the naira even when these rights are paid for in dollars. It's either Multichoice increases the price or she let go of some viewing rights. Nevertheless, the last time Multichoice lost the bid to the EPL rights, some subscribers left but most didn't because to these people DSTV is beyond football.

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 9:47pm On Jul 05, 2020
Slynation:

Can you compare the subscribers and awareness of 2006 till now....
Now lemme burst your bubbles...
@2006, even the president of Nigeria is still making use of java phones, now everything can be streamline on net with or without DSTV due to advance technology....Football fanbase has increased over the years unlike what we used to have in 2006

I can guarantee you, if DSTV should stops showing football matches in Nigeria, they should just close shop because they will experience drastic decline in patronage...

The last time I was about watching ATM vs Barcelona, and my sub expired, the speed I used in subscribing it can only be compared to that of "Speed of light" grin


Again, not everyone gets DSTV for football.

Maybe only you. But there are other people who watch the other channels too.

That's one of the reasons why DSTV outlasted HiTV. HiTV....had poor offerings apart from football. And the thing is, people have to watch something else when the EPL is not on.

DSTV had far more channels than HiTV in 2006 , which catrered to every interest. Women , children even some teenagers and some men don't care for the EPL.

Besides, Italian league, and Laliga haven';t left. Startimes has FA Cup, Europa league, and even the Bundesliga.

You think everyone is like you. They aren't.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 10:13pm On Jul 05, 2020
sexylassie2:
Anti business Nigerian govt.

Dstv subs in Nigeria are the lowest in Africa.

So the only reason, they put the law was because of startimes a govt company.

They want to collect things for free without paying.

Socialist government, that is why this country will be forever poor.
Stop robbing Nigerians .with such comment it shows that you are one of their agents or they are a source of livelihood to you.

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by COMPAQ(m): 10:17pm On Jul 05, 2020
tomdon:




You're not thinking well.
It can be the lowest rate but if they don't bill on pay as you go basis, it becomes the highest.
If one subscribes 5k a month and only gets to sit watch for less than 100hrs in a month out of 720hrs, then it is cheating. Pay as you go is non negotiable

Spend your whole life watching tv then. In fact you can watch 1440hours of tv.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 10:18pm On Jul 05, 2020
Therevenger:
Stop robbing Nigerians .with such comment it shows that you are one of their agents or they are a source of livelihood to you.

You can starve DSTV of cash by getting Startimes.

It works.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by COMPAQ(m): 10:20pm On Jul 05, 2020
xjiggy:
Maybe u were too young to recall when MTN was claiming recharge cards could only be manufactured in S. Africa and they couldn't bill per second billing because it will cost them millions of Dollars to upgrade their systems. Then u had to pay #50 for a minute even if the call failed after 3sec. #20 for sms, minimum recharge card of #750 with one week validity and sim card for #34k. They even refuse interconnectivity with Econet in order to push their claim that they are "Every Where You Go".
Look at those prices compared to now and Factor in inflation and tell me that's not exploitation and that I'm lying. It was Glo that came all of a sudden and delivered per secon billing and #1 sim card (#10k sim card with #9,999 credit inclusive).


All what you said above doesn’t make them a monopoly. Was econet not also doing per minute billing at the time? It’s obvious your argument is just anti South Africa biased.

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 05, 2020
kikero:


You can starve DSTV of cash by getting Startimes.

It works.

Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Slynation(m): 10:36pm On Jul 05, 2020
kikero:


Again, not everyone gets DSTV for football.

Maybe only you. But there are other people who watch the other channels too.

That's one of the reasons why DSTV outlasted HiTV. HiTV....had poor offerings apart from football. And the thing is, people have to watch something else when the EPL is not on.

DSTV had far more channels than HiTV in 2006 , which catrered to every interest. Women , children even some teenagers and some men don't care for the EPL.

Besides, Italian league, and Laliga haven';t left. Startimes has FA Cup, Europa league, and even the Bundesliga.

You think everyone is like you. They aren't.
Leave HiTv and 2006 alone naw... grin don't you think other competitors might up their game if they stopped showing football which is the major sporting event? Because we all know Nigerians must watch football with something else....
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Slynation(m): 10:40pm On Jul 05, 2020
Therevenger:
Stop robbing Nigerians .with such comment it shows that you are one of their agents or they are a source of livelihood to you.
Don't mind them, the Government intervention was simple oO, DSTV should just operate on PAYG as done in other countries, even if they hike the prices of subscription, people won't even complain....someone will sub for a whole month, but due to electricity issues can only enjoy what he paid for approximately 10days

Yet the same Nigerians are busy attacking the government saying trash, what do Nigerians even want self....

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by VirginFinder: 10:45pm On Jul 05, 2020
Righteousness89:
oOkay!
kKeep arguing blindly!
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by VirginFinder: 10:46pm On Jul 05, 2020
Righteousness89:


Leave all these stories..
Go and see the content of their packages and you will understand why Nigeria is being Rriped off!

Nigeria is being riped off!

Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Slynation(m): 10:47pm On Jul 05, 2020
Gerrard59:


The viewing rights of the EPL is different from that of the Champions League amounting to €350M ($450M). Furthermore, these viewing rights are meant only for the Nigerian market. However, Multichoice is not generating substantial revenues to recoup her investments considering the devaluation of the naira even when these rights are paid for in dollars. It's either Multichoice increases the price or she let go of some viewing rights. Nevertheless, the last time Multichoice lost the bid to the EPL rights, some subscribers left but most didn't because to these people DSTV is beyond football.
Yea I know all this, but anyways it's their decision and everyone has his/her own choices to make.... As for me and my generation "Football is Life"
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Slynation(m): 10:56pm On Jul 05, 2020
xjiggy:
Maybe u were too young to recall when MTN was claiming recharge cards could only be manufactured in S. Africa and they couldn't bill per second billing because it will cost them millions of Dollars to upgrade their systems. Then u had to pay #50 for a minute even if the call failed after 3sec. #20 for sms, minimum recharge card of #750 with one week validity and sim card for #34k. They even refuse interconnectivity with Econet in order to push their claim that they are "Every Where You Go".
Look at those prices compared to now and Factor in inflation and tell me that's not exploitation and that I'm lying. It was Glo that came all of a sudden and delivered per secon billing and #1 sim card (#10k sim card with #9,999 credit inclusive).
I swear.... This guys really dealt with Nigerians oO grin sometimes I find it hard to believe my mums sim-card cost her 36K grin S/A don use us cashout for this life shaah
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by thinkmoney(m): 11:43pm On Jul 05, 2020
Gerrard59:


It has been explained countless times that PAYG is actually more expensive (same thing all over the world) than what DSTV is operating.
I have given up. U can lie gan oh
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by obiekunie2: 12:34am On Jul 06, 2020
austinauto:


You no hate Chinese reach me, but both of them are the same. The only difference be say we can connect well with SA because we see them as brother. But they both hate Nigerians. It is much painful to see person you regards as brother treat you so bad and hate everything you do.

bros! I DONT SEE SOUTH AFRICANS AS BROTHERS FOR ANY REASON.

in fact, i see them like wicked monkeys - their skulls shows they are closer to monkeys than to other blacks thats why they are so full of hatred for other humans like Nigerians.

ok look at this scenario - can picture any south africa being a superstar like davido, wizkid or burna boy? naaa!!

ok look at another scenario - can u picture any south african committing a huge brain racking scam that will amaze the world like hushpuppy and invictus - naaaa! their brain can never develop to that level - now you can see why they hate us.

IF NA ONLY ME SHA! MAKE SOUTH AFRICAN COMPANIES chinese people LEAVE US - funny thing is, all the companies are owned by white south africans - south african drunkard primates who still feel they are blacks cant even have enough smartness to manage a company talk less of owing one. dumb skulls.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by 9gerian: 2:34am On Jul 06, 2020
The government has the right to formulate policies in the interest of its citizens during a pandemic that shut down its economy. Dstv like other organizations shall adhere to such policies like others that continue to make sacrifices. Moreover, the government needs all communication channels to be open and accessible to its citizens at times like this. The alternative would be for Dstv to quit, but we all know that they will not quit.

Over time, I will move away from Dstv and hope that more Nigerians explore other options. For all it’s worth, Cable and online tv recorded more patronage due to the covid 19 lockdown and the resulting boredom. This is the same trend that Dstv is currently exploiting.

I believe the government must have learnt its lessons about how important alternatives and competition is to reigning in the excesses of organizations like Dstv. It happened with glo and MTN on per seconds billing, and it will happen again as more efforts are made to discourage a near monopoly.

I hope more indigenous players rise to the occasion and give Dstv a good run in spite of the ample head start.

Also, the entry of the planned viable players (Orange) in the telecoms industry would further push down the cost of data to closer rates to Europe (for instance 2 euros for 100gb in France). Then, more people can afford to diversify their entertainment needs away from Dstv to Netflix etc. This would also help cut the dependence on Satellite TV.

The keyword here is breaking the opportunity of any sort for a monopoly in any industry.

In Kano, Northern Nigeria, they have Nile SAT and other free to air Decoders that offers many Arabian / Asian channels that make Dstv a luxury of sort. Hence most households do not bother with DSTV. I think the same scenario should now be applied to the southern part of Nigeria to break the monopolistic tendencies of a business that the Nigerian business environment helped to prop up.

And sentiments must definitely apply as South Africans and their government cannot be treating Nigerians and their businesses badly, but expect to be treated specially by the Nigerian people and their government. It is no longer gonna be that way, now that we know their hostile thoughts towards us.


Xisnin:

More sentiments.
Is it illegal to repatriate profit?
If yes, sue the companies. No one cares about how you feel.
Make strong laws that bars company from engaging in "capital flight" if you don't
want them to. Don't come out after the fact to complain.

We won't even be talking about "capital flights" if the government was stable and run by
people with working brains. No one withdraws capital from a stable economy. The investors
are not stupid, they know what happens when the government changes hands and how sentiments
drive policy reversals.
When they sense a problem, they run which is normal reaction expected of a prudent person.
In other words, you and those who believe in using government power to extort foreign companies and even some local ones
are directly destroying our economy while feeling good about it as long as you get your short-term gain.


I agree. It is utter selfishness that will make some citizens want to destroy a company because
they want to be entertained. The proper way to punish a company is to use other providers, not arm-twisting.

Provide specific examples of how allowing foreign companies business freedom actually
sabotage the economy.

I definitely don't want my business to be singled out with price-fixing rules by foreign countries.


What revelation did you provide above?
I expect a high schooler to already understand those weak arguments and their variants above.
A smarter one would even know that most of them are non-sequitur.


Anyone who have actually managed an international business should already know that governmental
price control actually sabotages the economy in the long run. Unless of course, they don't believe in free
market for others while you enjoyed it yourselves.

Can you list some progressive countries(not some backward third world) where government force price reduction on cable subscription or blackmail companies into reducing the prices of their luxury services?

Price-fixing is generally bad but it is even more worrisome when the government is trying to satisfy some minority so they
can enjoy a luxury good.

A patriotic person wants what is best for their country and not their own pocket.
Just because a policy will benefit me doesn't mean I have to support it.
Are you really entitled to a cheap or free cable TV subscription?


Can I assume your grudge against SA is why you want DSTV dealt with?
If it was owned by an American for example, would you have been okay with their prices?


You are deviating from the topic.
This isn't about SA attacks but the myopic government blackmail on a service provider.


Again, this is irrelevant.
Your beloved mob activists actually looted Nigerian businesses sending many innocent people into debt.
They attacked Nigerians going about their business and destroy valuable properties
while "fighting" against the supposed attack.
The Nigerian government took action because they know the mob were not actually after
SA business, they are unpredictable thugs capable of widespread violence.
Moreover, it is a bad image to be seen as a jungle where businesses are destroyed on whims.
Moreover, I have never met



Multichoice is not a monopoly any more than Tesla electric car is.
You are free to try other options or even free to air satellite channels



That is the basic principle of demand and supply
Prices can be adjusted to cover costs and profit if economic conditions changes.
Many electronic products have increased in price(Naira) ranging from 30 to 80% since the
Coronavirus outbreak. Yet, I am yet to see anyone protest the "cheating".

Also, businesses don't arbitrarily set prices, there are calculations behind them.

I don't care about a company's nationality.
Never compare discos with other private companies as they are not operating in a free market.
Discos receive billions of Naira subsidy every year from the FG just so you and others can line your pocket
and feel good about politicians.
We are literarily eating our children's future in the form of cheap electricity.
But anyone who suggests it is automatically seen as an enemy.
A true patriot wants what is best for the nation and not just for their pocket.

I will repeat it here again, the spineless government should allow discos to set whatever price that will allow them to profit and
invest more in the industry. One thing is clear, they cannot charge higher than it cost to power diesel engines.
At the end of the day, the electric industry will progress and we will all be better for it.
No nation ever progress without tough decisions and sacrifices.


You didn't really have a solid argument for price-fixing other than it makes you feel good.
If you do, you would be a strong contender for a Nobel price in economics and will become an
instant socialist hero.

No one is in danger by not using DSTV, so "protecting" the public isn't really a point.
It is a common saying that the role to hell is paved with "good intentions".
If someone can't afford DSTV, they should use the alternative.
Price-control(with or without subsidy) usually leads to stagnation or destroys a whole industry, this has
been an established fact for centuries.

Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by sulaak(m): 3:16am On Jul 06, 2020
yinkus6750:
Very welcome development
What they can't do in SA, they take us for granted and continue making so much money that they take back home.
Never knew Startines was owned by NTA, let's promote our own.
HITV came and we all switched, guess he could manage his success, and went off.
Not only them, mobile networks also, data is becoming so expensive
Has NTA ever made a profit?

Open the digital playing field and let all TV channels compete.

The government is only trying to justify the $500 million NTA loan that they will share among themselves.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 3:57am On Jul 06, 2020
Reference:
I'm not too sure about government's direct market interference in the price of their services as being ideal because it could afftect quality, which in this case means content. Also to have an anti trust battle there has to be competition which the perpetrator is undermining.

In this case, DSTV has no active competitor in the Digital Sattelite market which is so sophisticated even government cannot possibly stimulate alternatives. Some adversaries simply cannot be defeated by confrontation as I always tell those I mentor. Create a niche, work hard to deliver an excellent product or service, reinvest almost every reward in efficiency and you will reign perpetually.

No matter how Iran hates the west and America specifically if they have to fly they must fork out scarce forex to buy American and Western aircraft because there are no viable options. Pre-Musk, if America wanted to visit their real estate in space they needed to fly Russian rockets no matter how vile Putin was.

Since we cannot compete, we cannot control and the only thing left is for market forces of supply and demand to burn DSTV out. They will sooner or later hit peak demand and peak price. By then our own Elon Musk's will be ready to 'Coup de Grace'.

Even Dangote for all his clout and reputation for mischief could not beat Indomie noodles, and later sold his noodles business to them. About the only business Dangote couldn't get a foothold in.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Wierdceo: 9:17am On Jul 06, 2020
sexylassie2:
Anti business Nigerian govt.

Dstv subs in Nigeria are the lowest in Africa.

So the only reason, they put the law was because of startimes a govt company.

They want to collect things for free without paying.

Socialist government, that is why this country will be forever poor.
I didnt care about anything you wrote up until you said this country will be forever poor. Listen, just say it is your family that will be forever poor not the whole country of over 200million people who some are already wealthy. Mind your words .
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Unefille: 10:08am On Jul 06, 2020
If only they would really do something about it cause DStv is just annoying these days, you can only fully enjoy it if you are subscribed to compact plus or premium which are expensive, compact is also expensive but I am managing to subscribe for it but the way the thing is boring these day's am seriously thinking of switching to Netflix at least that way I know I can watch new movies or series without having to watch same movies 100 times in a month. Like the way they repeat movies and series is just annoying and that How I met your mother, I can't count how many times they have repeated that series[sub][/sub] embarassed. There are hundreds of movies and series out there to pick from, at least give us something new once in a while ( even if na old movies) even though we are not subscribed to premium or compact plus we still pay for it from our pocket. Should I mention how most channels they advertise for us we don't even have it in Nigeria, like BBC First and HGTV. On top the money they increased last month they removed ITV CHOICE, the only station I enjoy game shows. Their just annoying . sad undecided
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Xisnin(m): 11:29am On Jul 06, 2020
9gerian:
The government has the right to formulate policies in the interest of its citizens during a pandemic that shut down its economy. Dstv like other organizations shall adhere to such policies like others that continue to make sacrifices. Moreover, the government needs all communication channels to be open and accessible to its citizens at times like this. The alternative would be for Dstv to quit, but we all know that they will not quit.
It is no surprise that unscrupulous politicians win election with rubber of Garri.
Who could resist such a gift that is in the interest of the citizens?

No policy has been made to regulate the prices of goods and services of private company
anywhere in Nigeria. At least I didn't get any memo from the government telling me what I must charge for my services.
Even the price of essential food and drugs are not constrained by the government.

And if you haven't bought anything since the lockdown, then it is understandable that you think the government has been fixing prices.
It hasn't. Business people have been fixing their own prices based on production costs.


Over time, I will move away from Dstv and hope that more Nigerians explore other options. For all it’s worth, Cable and online tv recorded more patronage due to the covid 19 lockdown and the resulting boredom. This is the same trend that Dstv is currently exploiting.

This is what is expected from anyone who thinks a service price is too high and not encouraging
government to extort private companies.

On the other hand, increased patronage due to a fluke event should have no effect on pricing(upward or downward)
as long as production cost remains the same. In this case, production cost(Naira exchange rates) has gone up.
Since profit is more important than revenue, such changes are expected.

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 11:50am On Jul 06, 2020
Righteousness89:

@ Bolden ! Lies from the pit of Hell!!
Leave am.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 11:52am On Jul 06, 2020
sexylassie2:
Anti business Nigerian govt.

Dstv subs in Nigeria are the lowest in Africa.

So the only reason, they put the law was because of startimes a govt company.

They want to collect things for free without paying.

Socialist government, that is why this country will be forever poor.
Keep quiet abeg. You don't even know the meaning of socialism. Maga.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 11:59am On Jul 06, 2020
They should simply introduce PAYG to ease the pain and suffering. It is much better, even if you tell people to pay 14,000 for a month using PAYG no problem, but imagine in somewhere as useless as akwa ibom I'll be paying 14,000 for sub when I only get two to six hours electricity supply haba.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by megamank(m): 12:50pm On Jul 06, 2020
edoairways:

The case of MTN is totally different. GSM network was a necessity not cable TV, even now, cable TV is still a luxury

So you see this as a luxury only meant for the rich like u?
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by KGREAT(m): 1:02pm On Jul 06, 2020
sexylassie2:
Anti business Nigerian govt.

Dstv subs in Nigeria are the lowest in Africa.

So the only reason, they put the law was because of startimes a govt company.

They want to collect things for free without paying.

Socialist government, that is why this country will be forever poor.
sorry o, are you a DSTV paid personnel? because DSTV ought to leverage its subscription on the population and not otherwise. I believe in business competition and not business monopoly.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by edoairways: 1:20pm On Jul 06, 2020
megamank:


So you see this as a luxury only meant for the rich like u?
Did I tell you that am rich? I only state the fact

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by edoairways: 1:33pm On Jul 06, 2020
Bagehot:


Even Dangote for all his clout and reputation for mischief could not beat Indomie noodles, and later sold his noodles business to them. About the only business Dangote couldn't get a foothold in.
Most Nigerians are use to the taste of indomie

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by edoairways: 1:36pm On Jul 06, 2020
kikero:


Again, not everyone gets DSTV for football.

Maybe only you. But there are other people who watch the other channels too.

That's one of the reasons why DSTV outlasted HiTV. HiTV....had poor offerings apart from football. And the thing is, people have to watch something else when the EPL is not on.

DSTV had far more channels than HiTV in 2006 , which catrered to every interest. Women , children even some teenagers and some men don't care for the EPL.

Besides, Italian league, and Laliga haven';t left. Startimes has FA Cup, Europa league, and even the Bundesliga.

You think everyone is like you. They aren't.
I agree with you

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 1:38pm On Jul 06, 2020
edoairways:

I agree with you
And I support your agreement.
Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by edoairways: 1:52pm On Jul 06, 2020
Phyde:

You are on your own sir. Nigerians are not unite, we don't have one voice.
That is the problem,they expect the government to act whereas the ball is in their court

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Re: FG Moves To End DSTV's Monopoly, Says Multichoice Is Cheating Nigerians by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 06, 2020
Gerrard59:


You must not watch DSTV o. If you cannot afford to watch channels on DSTV, migrate to another cable network. Cable TV is not an essential service oooooo
go sit don joor people like you na make this country nor beta so small money wen enter ur hand na they shak u so

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