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Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 11:09am On Jul 11, 2020
For Educational purposes

Coronavirus is a deadly virus, maybe not as deadly because you have survived it. The way it affects people are different, some experience loss of smell and taste, while others don't. Some experience serious headaches like migraine that can last upto 3 or 4days. Muscle pains, etc. Coronavirus cure has not yet be made, and it simply means we have months to wait till the cure is out. But while we wait, why don't we stop the spread of This virus faster rather than making it spread massively.
We have a Fast and slow spread..

Fast spread involves when the government allows market to stay open, resume schools, worship centres open, and people don't isolate themselves and then spread this virus, and alot of people get this virus the same time, we have more than 200milion people in this country if 20 million people fall sick and get admitted to the hospital, we don't have enough hospitals and doctors to treat everyone one. Which will result in deaths of people, and this simply means that ordinary sickness like malaria, typhoid or you have an accident, which will require you to get admitted in the hospital will likely Kill you because there will be too much patients in the hospital and you won't see bed, or even see a doctor. Your life is not important than another person. We don't also have enough ventilators.

Slow spread involves taking presumptive measures such as closing schools and start online courses, closing market and government finding another way people can sell without too much population, washing your hands etc..

We still have ignorant people claiming there is no coronavirus in Nigeria, please don't be misguided.Our government should also take more measures to stop the spread of the virus unless this will get more serious..

Thanks for reading
What do you think about the virus?
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by 77Craze: 11:13am On Jul 11, 2020
Who talk that nonsense?
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by KelvinCoaster(m): 11:19am On Jul 11, 2020
I don't support another lockdown!
The virus is having a very low fatality rate on Nigerians,this may suggest that our immune response is good.Just like other endemic diseases in Nigeria,COVID-19 could trigger some level of Herd Immunity soon.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 11:38am On Jul 11, 2020
KelvinCoaster:
I don't support another lockdown!
The virus is having a very low fatality rate on Nigerians,this may suggest that our immune response is good.Just like other endemic diseases in Nigeria,COVID-19 could trigger some level of Herd Immunity soon.
how did you come into conclusion it has low fatality rate? Prove it please. This is science we don't joke with information
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SavageMaster: 11:46am On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
For Educational purposes

Coronavirus is a deadly virus, maybe not as deadly because you have survived it. The way it affects people are different, some experience loss of smell and taste, while others don't. Some experience serious headaches like migraine that can last upto 3 or 4days. Muscle pains, etc. Coronavirus cure has not yet be made, and it simply means we have months to wait till the cure is out. But while we wait, why don't we stop the spread of This virus faster rather than making it spread massively.
We have a Fast and slow spread..

Fast spread involves when the government allows market to stay open, resume schools, worship centres open, and people don't isolate themselves and then spread this virus, and alot of people get this virus the same time, we have more than 200milion people in this country if 20 million people fall sick and get admitted to the hospital, we don't have enough hospitals and doctors to treat everyone one. Which will result in deaths of people, and this simply means that ordinary sickness like malaria, typhoid or you have an accidents, which will require you to get admitted in the hospital will likely Kill you because there will be too much patients in the hospital and you won't see bed, or even see a doctor. Your life is not important than another person. We don't also have enough ventilators.

Slow spread involves taking presumptive measures such as closing schools and start online courses, closing market and government finding another way people can sell without toom much population, washing your hands etc..

We still have ignorant people claiming there is no coronavirus in Nigeria, please don't be misguided.Our government should also take more measures to stop the spread of the virus unless this will get more serious..

Thanks for reading
What do you think about the virus?

We don't need another lockdown of the entire country.
If the incidence is high in a particular area, that area should be locked down for two weeks or so, and the spread contained.

We can also do more of shopping online, for those who trust that method; online shopping doesn't work for everyone, though.

As for schools, I'm of the opinion that final year tertiary and secondary school students be allowed back to school by early August. If there's no further escalation in numbers, the rest of the students can resume by September.

The truth is that Coronavirus has come to stay, for this year and maybe next year. Can we all afford to stay stuck at home till zero new case is recorded? With the dilapidated educational system in Nigeria, won't the stay at home by students further make the situation worse?

Flattening the curve or whatever, will take some months more for us to get there.

My only advice is that while we leave our houses, we should take as much precautions as we can, for our sakes and for those around us.

Let's also keep praying for God's intervention for a quick end to this pandemic; and also to give our researchers the wisdom to find a solution to this.

Let our scientists work hard too in order to get an effective treatment for the disease
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SavageMaster: 11:52am On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
how did you come into conclusion it has low fatality rate? Prove it please. This is science we don't joke with information

Check NCDC figures; the percentage of deaths compared to the total number of people who tested positive, has been between 2-3%. The worldwide average is about 4.5%

Coronavirus is less fatal compared to Lassa fever and some other diseases.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 12:03pm On Jul 11, 2020
SavageMaster:


We don't need another lockdown of the entire country.
If the incidence is high in a particular area, that area should be locked down for two weeks or so, and the spread contained.

We can also do more of shopping online, for those who trust that method; online shopping doesn't work for everyone, though.

As for schools, I'm of the opinion that final year tertiary and secondary school students be allowed back to school by early August. If there's no further escalation in numbers, the rest of the students can resume by September.

The truth is that Coronavirus has come to stay, for this year and maybe next year. Can we all afford to stay stuck at home till zero new case is recorded? With the dilapidated educational system in Nigeria, won't the stay at home by students further make the situation worse?

Flattening the curve or whatever, will take some months more for us to get there.

My only advice is that while we leave our houses, we should take as much precautions as we can, for our sakes and for those around us.

Let's also keep praying for God's intervention for a quick end to this pandemic; and also to give our researchers the wisdom to find a solution to this.

Let our scientists work hard too in order to get an effective treatment for the disease
With the way we are I can imagine students from other levels clamouring for full reopening if they let final resume grin. Thing is unis have varying calendars and i don't think it's easy to just say let everybody just wait for final year students to pass out especially for schools that are still in the first part of their calendar grin.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 12:08pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
how did you come into conclusion it has low fatality rate? Prove it please. This is science we don't joke with information
Nigeria isn't exactly known for having vital statistics so it's no surprise we're way behind in truly assessing the health challenge of the pandemic. For instance how many hospital beds do we have? How about other death statistics(not trying to downplay covid). Even concerning covid we don't know how many people are actually sick sad. So NCDC stats have no meat to them anymore sad.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 12:47pm On Jul 11, 2020
SavageMaster:


We don't need another lockdown of the entire country.
If the incidence is high in a particular area, that area should be locked down for two weeks or so, and the spread contained.

We can also do more of shopping online, for those who trust that method; online shopping doesn't work for everyone, though.

As for schools, I'm of the opinion that final year tertiary and secondary school students be allowed back to school by early August. If there's no further escalation in numbers, the rest of the students can resume by September.

The truth is that Coronavirus has come to stay, for this year and maybe next year. Can we all afford to stay stuck at home till zero new case is recorded? With the dilapidated educational system in Nigeria, won't the stay at home by students further make the situation worse?

Flattening the curve or whatever, will take some months more for us to get there.

My only advice is that while we leave our houses, we should take as much precautions as we can, for our sakes and for those around us.

Let's also keep praying for God's intervention for a quick end to this pandemic; and also to give our researchers the wisdom to find a solution to this.

Let our scientists work hard too in order to get an effective treatment for the disease
we are talking about health how to survive and you are talking about school. So now opening schools is more important than life?. NCDC numbers are not even accurate like in Enugu here, people with coronavirus has surpassed more than 5000 but Enugu don't have testing centres and no way to tell. Enugu was 38 and suddenly had 358 in one day. How can u justify that? Usa is moving to deport Nigerians recently because they want to shift to online learning, are we more advanced than them? Instead you're talking about people resuming school physically.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 12:49pm On Jul 11, 2020
SirWarlock:
Nigeria isn't exactly known for having vital statistics so it's no surprise we're way behind in truly assessing the health challenge of the pandemic. For instance how many hospital beds do we have? How about other death statistics(not trying to downplay covid). Even concerning covid we don't know how many people are actually sick sad. So NCDC stats have no meat to them anymore sad.
people complain that they call NCDC and sometimes they don't call. We have lot of ignorant people in Nigeria who believes that there Is no Corona. CDC and who made it clear that corona can only be fatal to people with underlying disease and old people. So because we have lot of young people surviving it doesn't mean that this viruses is not killing hundreds everyday that are older or have underlying disease. I still support lockdown.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SavageMaster: 1:06pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
we are talking about health how to survive and you are talking about school. So now opening schools is more important than life?. NCDC numbers are not even accurate like in Enugu here, people with coronavirus has surpassed more than 5000 but Enugu don't have testing centres and no way to tell. Enugu was 38 and suddenly had 358 in one day. How can u justify that? Usa is moving to deport Nigerians recently because they want to shift to online learning, are we more advanced than them? Instead you're talking about people resuming school physically.

Well...I get your point.

It's just that I'm very skeptical about online learning working out in Nigeria. Perhaps, some top-rated Nigerian universities eg. Covenant University, can do a test-run, and let's see how it goes.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 1:18pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
people complain that they call NCDC and sometimes they don't call. We have lot of ignorant people in Nigeria who believes that there Is no Corona. CDC and who made it clear that corona can only be fatal to people with underlying disease and old people. So because we have lot of young people surviving it doesn't mean that this viruses is not killing hundreds everyday that are older or have underlying disease. I still support lockdown.
It's not limited to those you mentioned sad. I mean we've heard of relatively young people succumbing to the virus in Nigeria and other countries also. A few days ago someone here told us how his friend, young and healthy had to be plugged into a ventilator. Why a lockdown? Lockdown is for serious countries grin not whatever is going on in Nigeria grin
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 1:23pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
we are talking about health how to survive and you are talking about school. So now opening schools is more important than life?. NCDC numbers are not even accurate like in Enugu here, people with coronavirus has surpassed more than 5000 but Enugu don't have testing centres and no way to tell. Enugu was 38 and suddenly had 358 in one day. How can u justify that? Usa is moving to deport Nigerians recently because they want to shift to online learning, are we more advanced than them? Instead you're talking about people resuming school physically.
What you just mentioned is exactly why Nigeria won't go anywhere in tackling this current situation. They don't have testing centres and they have to queue up wherever they're sending samples to sad.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 1:26pm On Jul 11, 2020
SavageMaster:


Well...I get your point.

It's just that I'm very skeptical about online learning working out in Nigeria. Perhaps, some top-rated Nigerian universities eg. Covenant University, can do a test-run, and let's see how it goes.
grin grin It won't work.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jul 11, 2020
SirWarlock:
It's not limited to those you mentioned sad. I mean we've heard of relatively young people succumbing to the virus in Nigeria and other countries also. A few days ago someone here told us how his friend, young and healthy had to be plugged into a ventilator. Why a lockdown? Lockdown is for serious countries grin not whatever is going on in Nigeria grin
serious countries, or for countries with poor health sector? Foreign countries have equipments, good hospitals and enough doctors atleast. More reason we need a lockdown is because we lack in almost everything. Healthcare we lack, doctors on strike 24/7.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 1:28pm On Jul 11, 2020
SirWarlock:
grin grin It won't work.
why won't it work? Atleast now the virus is also affecting the top corrupt politicians up there. By the time they deport most of their kids, you will see how things will start to take shape.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by KelvinCoaster(m): 1:48pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
how did you come into conclusion it has low fatality rate? Prove it please. This is science we don't joke with information
Let me school you: Fatality rate=Number of deaths/Number of cases x100/1


If you want to learn next time,try to ask politely!!
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by KelvinCoaster(m): 1:56pm On Jul 11, 2020
SavageMaster:


Check NCDC figures; the percentage of deaths compared to the total number of people who tested positive, has been between 2-3%. The worldwide average is about 4.5%

Coronavirus is less fatal compared to Lassa fever and some other diseases.
It's a shame even the op of this thread does not know this!
henrymorre or whatever!
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 2:09pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
serious countries, or for countries with poor health sector? Foreign countries have equipments, good hospitals and enough doctors atleast. More reason we need a lockdown is because we lack in almost everything. Healthcare we lack, doctors on strike 24/7.
Lockdown with no testing? . The first lockdown didn't work, with the current attitude of Nigerians what would this one do sad. Apart from slowing the spread countries used lockdown to prepare and put things in place. What did we do pre-lockdown, during and after our pseudo-lockdown?. Government know we lack everything but are still clueless in handling the epidemic. The consideration for precision lockdown they talked about is more than a month now grin. They said they have identified the high risk LGs accounting for half of our cases and till date nothing to show grin. As of today some states don't even have their own molecular labs. Government at all levels have passed the message that covid19 is nothing over here. Why else would what's happening in Kogi and Cross River be happening undecided? Why are our medical practitioners and associations involved not saying anything if things are more serious than they are? Why would Kano state government lift all forms of restrictions if they aren't out of the blue yet undecided. Well maybe after now we'll overhaul our education system which has played a part in why we still beating around the pandemic.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 2:13pm On Jul 11, 2020
Henrymorre:
why won't it work? Atleast now the virus is also affecting the top corrupt politicians up there. By the time they deport most of their kids, you will see how things will start to take shape.
We totally had no structures for online learning before the pandemic, ASUU is currently on strike grin, so called profs hibernating, students cruising on social media grin and now we're in the midst of a pandemic, so how would it work
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by KelvinCoaster(m): 2:20pm On Jul 11, 2020
SirWarlock:
Nigeria isn't exactly known for having vital statistics so it's no surprise we're way behind in truly assessing the health challenge of the pandemic. For instance how many hospital beds do we have? How about other death statistics(not trying to downplay covid). Even concerning covid we don't know how many people are actually sick sad. So NCDC stats have no meat to them anymore sad.
Yes,there is a systemic problem in Nigeria but that does not discredit NCDC daily figures!
Come to think of Fatality rate: How many of your relatives or neighbours recently have died of a disease with similar symptoms as COVID-19?


We are always fast to say 'Nigeria is bad'.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jul 11, 2020
KelvinCoaster:

Yes,there is a systemic problem in Nigeria but that does not discredit NCDC daily figures!
Come to think of Fatality rate: How many of your relatives or neighbours recently have died of a disease with similar symptoms as COVID-19?


We are always fast to say 'Nigeria is bad'.
there are lot of people in this country. You be surprised you only know about 0.5%.
Re: Why We Need More Lockdown And Markets Closed, churches etc by SirWarlock: 5:10pm On Jul 11, 2020
KelvinCoaster:

Yes,there is a systemic problem in Nigeria but that does not discredit NCDC daily figures!
Come to think of Fatality rate: How many of your relatives or neighbours recently have died of a disease with similar symptoms as COVID-19?


We are always fast to say 'Nigeria is bad'.
I'm not discrediting their. Just that they're just plain now sad. One will think it's merely a 'new case' affair when it's more than that. With what is playing out in some states, you end up making people think these are just numbers. Personally I don't anybody who has died of covid like symptoms so there's that.

Nigeria keeps giving room for people to say the country is bad.

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