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MinorityOpinion:
Igala and Benin influenced igbo arts, most igbo don't know where they came from. Most art pieces in onitsha belong to igala priest that conquered and colonised igbos before the arrival of British

helinues:
This is when real ancient brown roofs are needed, but what can we say about people with no heritage...

Obalatule:
You are off-point, Binis where an offshoot of early Igbo ancestors, Building an empire later-on has nothing to do with it...... Through out all their conquering and wars they never looked east towards the Igbos,..have you asked yourself why?

At the time, the Benin Kingdom was at the height of its military and political power and stretched far into the east and west of modern-day Nigeria.

imhotep:
Calm down and confess that Igbo amaka

Cc lzaa

Obalatule:
[s][/s] Ignorance they say is a disease, events of 16th century is like yesterday to what this thread is about, take your ignorance elsewhere.....I guess it's People that claim they descended from a man that fell from heaven bound in chain that knows where they are from

MinorityOpinion:
Igala and Benin influenced igbo arts, most igbo don't know where they came from. Most art pieces in onitsha belong to igala priest that conquered and colonised igbos before the arrival of British

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Obalatule:
[s][/s] Ignorance they say is a disease, events of 16th century is like yesterday to what this thread is about, take your ignorance elsewhere.....I guess it's People that claim they descended from a man that fell from heaven bound in chain that knows where they are from

MinorityOpinion:
Where are you from? Fake Jews story is even worse

Dedetwo:
It is plain idiocy for anybody to paste an obscure crap as bases of his or her facts. Igala did not capture any Igbo land. In fact, most Igala land were overrun by the Fulani Jihadist. Fulani incorporated Igala land into Emirates yet no such thing ever happened to Igbo land or lands beyond Igbo land. Fulani were handed their first defeat by the Akagbe and Igbo warriors at the northern boundaries of Igbo land. Why would Igala land be subjected under Emirate system and their subordinates were not? There was no Benin Oba who even dreamt of military expedition southeast of the village empire.

your history is pitiable and pathetic, no wonder you hide it from the world

MinorityOpinion:
You are mistaken sir, its igbo that should be offshoot of Benin not the other way round, talking about never look east.



Benin took their military operation to both west and east, that is why most of South south that disagree with igbos can trace their origin to Benin.

Now ask yourself this question if Benin was an offshoot of ancient igbo Kingdom (with I vehemently disagree with), what were other clan doing not matching up with them? Are they lazy? Are their IQ not the same with Benin so they retrogressed?

Obalatule:
Binis where an offshoot of Igbos and continued recieving NRI priests for Earth cleansing and other purposes for hundreds of years

The Igbo migrations out of bini where descendants of these original NRI priests and emissaries, they started dispersing from Bini(Iduland) for different reasons and at different points on time

It is actually stupid to ask why other clans of Igbos didn't build empires like the Binis, sounds stupid...The Nris where mainly priestly people and never tried to conquer anybody with military might, The Bini has a long standing tradition of not using the head of any Nri Descendant during the yearly igue(igu Aro) festival.

MinorityOpinion:
Where are you from? Fake Jews story is even worse

MinorityOpinion:
Can you prove any of these sir? Especially the bolded. I will try and read about Nri kingdom, hopefully when we meet next time, I'd be ready

Dedetwo:
The Jewish crap remains a narrative from people such as you who spanned off from class of below average intellect.

Obalatule:
Binis where actually an offshoot of an ancient Igbo group which included the"Isu" group of Igbos, The ISU and idu(Bini) along with three other relatives which include the igala ancestors, that's why Igbos,Bini and igala use the word "isee" to seal prayers signifying the original five branches.

Bini are a branch of the Igbo race. They left Nri under the leadership of Igodo to found Igodomigodo due to nso - ani. Hence Bini language and culture is similar to Igbo.

The Bini Igue Festival is borrowed from Nri Iguaro festival.

The Bini 4 days of the week - Eken, Afon, Orien, Nkwon were borrowed from Nri.

The Bini succession by primogeniture is an adaptation of the Okpalabisi Igbo system that grants total rights of succession to the first son.

The customary Bini breaking of Kolanut is also derived from Nri. 'Onye wetere oji wetere ndu'.

The New Yam festival is a carry over from Nri. It is still celebrated with pomp and pageantry in Benin.

The Ogiso dynasty of Igodo migodo is Igbo. Ogie - so means leader who must be followed.

Till date Nri Priests are important in the coronation functions of the Obas of Benin.

The word OKORO which is the finest specimen of the male species amongst Igbos, also means Prince in Bini.

Most people don't know that even Bini counting is very similar to Igbo counting.

Do you know that the Bini still use the Igbo word EGO, EGHO for money.

Many Bini towns still bear their Igbo names till date eg ISIUWA, IGUOBAZUWA.

The Benin Prince called Oduduwa /Izoduwa /Imaduwa who left to Ife just 900 years ago bears his Igbo name and its meanings on leadership is clear to every Igbo.

MinorityOpinion:
Dishing out lies as usual. All the bolded words are lies, shey you people no dey think before dishing out your unbelievable lies?

What is your obsession with Fulani? Are you afraid of them? You are supporting one to be your president over your kinsmen

Igala conquered and dominated igbos then became their priest and control them, they introduced Osu to igbo land. Most of it is in that book I quoted, your history is pitiable and pathetic, no wonder you hide it from the world

Which war did Fulani and igbo fight, you think Fulani war is like the village invading that igbos call war? You don't stand a chance bro.

Obalatule:
Tell us how you descended form heaven bound up in chains

Obalatule:
Go to the palace of the Oba of Benin and make inquiries, that should convince you

MinorityOpinion:
This is BS and you know it.

Cc ThatF airGuy, sammy07

Yujin:
Unfortunately, I don't think there's any at the moment. The most prominent of all the Igbo archeologists is Prof. Onwuejeogwu from Anioma. He did excellently well to prove the links between different Igbo clans and show case the beauty of Igbo tradition and historical chronology. Other notable archeologists are Afigbo, Elizabeth Isichei and Caroline Acholonu. These people were rare assets that the Igbo nation have been unable to replace. Till date, most Igbos don't know that there was a pyramid built in Igboland. That heap of slag from Iron smelting I believe is in or around Nsukka and most Igbos youths don't know about it. Since Nigeria has failed us, I think Igbo social study teachers should make it an effort to study these archeological works of those people I mentioned earlier and use their findings to teach our young ones the achievement of our ancestors. This will go a long way to boost their awareness and creativity. We have to be passionate about Igbo nation by researching stuffs ourselves.

Sammy07:
. I'm not sure of that ascertion

OfoIgbo:
Thanks Obalatule for reeling out those most Igbo of practices that Benin got from the Igbos (Umu-Nri). I'm already aware of most of them except the EGHO.

Let me just expand a little bit on ODUDUWA.
English = Them
Anambra Igbo = Fa
Imo/Abia = Ha
Anioma = Wa

Bear in mind that these activities were happening across the Niger i.e just beyond ANIOMA. So WA becomes the pronoun.
ONYE ODUDU WA = Their leader

BINI itself was coined from the Igbo phrase ILO OBI INU, which basically means THE ROAD/WAY OF (BITTER HEARTS)/ANGER.

The first Oba of Benin was Oba IWEKA, an Nri titled man. OBA is a title in Nri and it doesn't mean KING. Now the IWEKA appendage will usually be an alias.
So obviously he took on an alias that described the inhabitants of Benin (Ilo Obi Inu).
Every Igbo man knows the meaning of IWEKA (IWE means ANGER). For some reason the name has been corrupted to EWEKA.
The SW almajiris have also muscled into the argument by claiming that Bini is the short form for Ile-Ibunu. All these twisting of history has come about because Nri in its heyday, was a pacifist cultural society.

In the past, every Oba of Benin or Attah of Igala must be made an Ozo by Nri priests, as princes before they mount their respective royal stools.

I have heard the Isu, Igwekala, Kamalu e.t.c tales in the past by a prof. from Imo state, but I have never heard my people (The Nris) talk about it, and the deep traditionalists in my clan have never mentioned them, so because of that, and the fact the it is hard to prove, I normally do not bring up that issue, as I will not be able to back the tales up with proofs. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. It simply means I cannot back them up with existing evidence.

MinorityOpinion:
Dishing out lies as usual. All the bolded words are lies, shey you people no dey think before dishing out your unbelievable lies?

What is your obsession with Fulani? Are you afraid of them? You are supporting one to be your president over your kinsmen

Igala conquered and dominated igbos then became their priest and control them, they introduced Osu to igbo land. Most of it is in that book I quoted, your history is pitiable and pathetic, no wonder you hide it from the world

Which war did Fulani and igbo fight, you think Fulani war is like the village invading that igbos call war? You don't stand a chance bro.

Dedetwo:
How dare you call a historical facts which did not come from the heap of silly propaganda of the so-called Oyo Empire and Benin Empire a lie? When the jackasses you believed their fairytales told you about their silly system of monarchs as against the democratic system which Ndigbo practiced, you were hale and hearty. Today, the same Europeans have abandoned the monarchical crap and embraced the democratic bandwagon.

OfoIgbo:
Thanks Obalatule for reeling out those most Igbo of practices that Benin got from the Igbos (Umu-Nri). I'm already aware of most of them except the EGHO.

Let me just expand a little bit on ODUDUWA.
English = Them
Anambra Igbo = Fa
Imo/Abia = Ha
Anioma = Wa

Bear in mind that these activities were happening across the Niger i.e just beyond ANIOMA. So WA becomes the pronoun.
ONYE ODUDU WA = Their leader

BINI itself was coined from the Igbo phrase ILO OBI INU, which basically means THE ROAD/WAY OF (BITTER HEARTS)/ANGER.

The first Oba of Benin was Oba IWEKA, an Nri titled man. OBA is a title in Nri and it doesn't mean KING. Now the IWEKA appendage will usually be an alias.
So obviously he took on an alias that described the inhabitants of Benin (Ilo Obi Inu).
Every Igbo man knows the meaning of IWEKA (IWE means ANGER). For some reason the name has been corrupted to EWEKA.
The SW almajiris have also muscled into the argument by claiming that Bini is the short form for Ile-Ibunu. All these twisting of history has come about because Nri in its heyday, was a pacifist cultural society.

In the past, every Oba of Benin or Attah of Igala must be made an Ozo by Nri priests, as princes before they mount their respective royal stools.

I have heard the Isu, Igwekala, Kamalu e.t.c tales in the past by a prof. from Imo state, but I have never heard my people (The Nris) talk about it, and the deep traditionalists in my clan have never mentioned them, so because of that, and the fact the it is hard to prove, I normally do not bring up that issue, as I will not be able to back the tales up with proofs. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. It simply means I cannot back them up with existing evidence.

Sammy07:
which kind of lies is this. How can you make claims you cannot prove? .. I think you wanna destroy this thread by including Oduduwa and Yorubas

Dedetwo:
Ndigbo are not loudmouthed as your forbearers and will never give silly narratives of Igbo people different from what is\are obtained on the ground.
Till today, Igala has no inches of Igbo land

MinorityOpinion:
This is nothing but lies, Benin no be una mate for civilization, in the 15th century, Benin was already an empire whereas decentralised Igbos were still scavenging the east in the Bush, no disrespect here.

MinorityOpinion:
That's olden days believe now, even Chinese believe in ying yang theory. Igbos and the Yorubas are indigenous and longest habitant of where they are now.

Sammy07:
which kind of lies is this. How can you make claims you cannot prove? .. I think you wanna destroy this thread by including Oduduwa and Yorubas

Obalatule:
Nobody is destroying anything, Ooni of ife the most respected Yoruba king Made it clear that Igbos were in IFE a long time ago in the past, Oduduwa is a corrupted Igbo name...read up his press release