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Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 7:09pm On Sep 07, 2020
Good PM NLers.
I want to ask a question, which is; why do some NLers start their sentence with "am" instead of "I am"?

I am not fluent or perfect in English language, and I'm not trying to mock anybody. But I do get annoyed whenever I see supposed "graduates" starting their sentences with "am" embarassed

Thanks.

Modified.
"I am" is used in a declarative sentence. Eg. I am John.
"Am" is used in an interrogative sentence. Eg. Am I completely lacking in self discipline?

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by etrange: 7:28pm On Sep 07, 2020
Ab0bi:
Good PM NLers.
I want to ask a question, which is; why do some NLers starts their sentence with "am" instead of "i am"?

I am not fluent or perfect in English language, and i'm not trying to mock anybody. But i do get annoyed whenever i see supposed "graduates" starting their sentences with "am" embarassed

Thanks.

You said "starts" instead of "start" but I believe that was just a mistake, no big deal. However, you repeatedly used the letter "i" instead of the pronoun "I" and I'm forced to believe that you don't even know the difference. This is exactly how some people don't know the difference between "I am" and "am" and yet we all are graduates. God help us, bro.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Sep 07, 2020
etrange:


You said "starts" instead of "start" but I believe that was just a mistake, no big deal. However, you repeatedly used the letter "i" instead of the pronoun "I" and I'm forced to believe that you don't even know the difference. This is exactly how some people don't know the difference between "I am" and "am" and yet we all are graduates. God help us, bro.
I didn't proofread, but thanks for pointing out my mistakes.
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by paulolee(m): 7:39pm On Sep 07, 2020
am confused too, jus too wrong

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 7:44pm On Sep 07, 2020
paulolee:
am confused too, jus too wrong
You just did the same thing I was talking against.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by yanabasee1(m): 7:47pm On Sep 07, 2020
etrange:


You said "starts" instead of "start" but I believe that was just a mistake, no big deal. However, you repeatedly used the letter "i" instead of the pronoun "I" and I'm forced to believe that you don't even know the difference. This is exactly how some people don't know the difference between "I am" and "am" and yet we all are graduates. God help us, bro.


And most of these people are doing well financially and most likely to employ people to do the difficult work for them...


Point is.... Life is far from Education and how you spell and write or make perfect composition...


Living a happy life is all that matters and not how you can read and write.....

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by paulolee(m): 7:49pm On Sep 07, 2020
Ab0bi:
You just did the same thing I was talking against.
am sorry, my bahd...forgive me, wont try it again..

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 7:50pm On Sep 07, 2020
paulolee:
am sorry, my bahd...forgive me, wont try it again..
cheesy mahd man grin
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Rexmy(m): 8:04pm On Sep 07, 2020
Ab0bi:
Good PM NLers.
I want to ask a question, which is; why do some NLers start their sentence with "am" instead of "I am"?

I am not fluent or perfect in English language, and I'm not trying to mock anybody. But I do get annoyed whenever I see supposed "graduates" starting their sentences with "am" embarassed

Thanks.
Am I getting you wrong?
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Sep 07, 2020
Rexmy:
Am I getting you wrong?
I have modified my post.
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Crownstar01: 8:13pm On Sep 07, 2020
Ab0bi:
Good PM NLers.
I want to ask a question, which is; why do some NLers start their sentence with "am" instead of "I am"?

I am not fluent or perfect in English language, and I'm not trying to mock anybody. But I do get annoyed whenever I see supposed "graduates" starting their sentences with "am" embarassed

Thanks.

Modified.
"I am" is used in a declarative sentence. Eg. I am John.
"Am" is used in a interrogative sentence. Eg. Am I completely lacking in self discipline?
Lack of good education I suppose.
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 8:14pm On Sep 07, 2020
Crownstar01:
Lack of good education I suppose.
I guess so.
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Rexmy(m): 8:21pm On Sep 07, 2020
Ab0bi:
I have modified my post.
Oh... Good!
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by inforesource: 9:53pm On Sep 07, 2020
Another mistake I usually notice is the use of "Being and Been".

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 10:00pm On Sep 07, 2020
inforesource:
Another mistake I usually notice is the use of "Being and Been".
You're right.

Had/Has/Have=Been
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by SUPERPACK: 12:12am On Sep 08, 2020
English is not our mother tongue and can never be. When you listen to English players you will see them making same mistakes. Why? Because English is just a language and not a measure of intelligence.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Karleb(m): 2:20pm On Sep 08, 2020
Bad English shouldn't invalidate the fact that one is a graduate.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by etrange: 1:00am On Sep 09, 2020
SUPERPACK:
English is not our mother tongue and can never be. When you listen to English players you will see them making same mistakes. Why? Because English is just a language and not a measure of intelligence.

It doesn't have to be a measure of intelligence, anything worth doing is worth doing well. You learn the English language so you can communicate with people, why not learn it well? English language might not be everyone's mother tongue or anyone's native language but Nigeria is an anglophone country and as such, English is indeed one of our languages. We start learning this language from childhood to adulthood. If you invest such an amount of time to a project and at the end, the final product is substandard, wouldn't you say it's a failed project? If it's not our language, why bother learning it in the first place? So it's shameful when we use the formulaic expression "English is not our language" as an excuse for a failed education system.

Everything is going global. People migrate here and there. Workplaces require high communication skills these days. Language is becoming more important than ever. Would you want to be left out because 'English is not our language'? We all make mistakes and no one knows it all. We should therefore strive to learn everyday instead of hiding behind the 'English is not our language' mantra. The more our English detoriates in Nigeria, the more secluded we become and the less effective/efficient our human resources become at the global stage. Many skilled Nigerians with poor command of English language still struggle to get good jobs here in the western world despite the fact that skills are highly appreciated here. This is because these guys here aren't accustomed to the grammatical blunders that would normally be neglected in Nigeria where everyone 'understands'.

As a graduate in Nigeria, it's OK if your French is bad, it's OK if your Spanish is bad but seeing that you're from an anglophone country, if your English is bad, it's shameful and such can only be attributed to substandard education.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by SUPERPACK: 1:31am On Sep 09, 2020
etrange:


It doesn't have to be a measure of intelligence, anything worth doing is worth doing well. You learn the English language so you can communicate with people, why not learn it well? English language might not be everyone's mother tongue or anyone's native language but Nigeria is an anglophone country and as such, English is indeed one of our languages. We start learning this language from childhood to adulthood. If you invest such an amount of time to a project and at the end, the final product is substandard, wouldn't you say it's a failed project? If it's not our language, why bother learning it in the first place? So it's shameful when we use the formulaic expression "English is not our language" as an excuse for a failed education system.

Everything is going global. People migrate here and there. Workplaces require high communication skills these days. Language is becoming more important than ever. Would you want to be left out because 'English is not our language'? We all make mistakes and no one knows it all. We should therefore strive to learn everyday instead of hiding behind the 'English is not our language' mantra. The more our English detoriates in Nigeria, the more secluded we become and the less effective/efficient our human resources become at the global stage. Many skilled Nigerians with poor command of English language still struggle to get good jobs here in the western world despite the fact that skills are highly appreciated here. This is because these guys here aren't accustomed to the grammatical blunders that would normally be neglected in Nigeria where everyone 'understands'.

As a graduate in Nigeria, it's OK if your French is bad, it's OK if your Spanish is bad but seeing that you're from an anglophone country, if your English is bad, it's shameful and such can only be attributed to substandard education.

After typing all this your textbook still remember that your president is not an English professor, his deputy is not too, Trump is not, Macron is not and almost all the world leaders we look up to. As long as you can read and write in English you are good to go. I still wonder what human resource has to do with English Language again, I've watched international conferences and have seen a lot of English speaking country representatives finding it hard to be coherent. This same mentality of English as the greatest skill, is what is empowering our old professors in this country to remain redundant, and not even have anything tangible to offer to the society. Why be skillful when you can blow grammar for them and everybody will bow. And the OP was only talking of minor English errors which are easily ignored in informal settings. I am yet to see a country that doesn't have a Nigerian breaking and setting new records in various fields of Education even with their not-so-good use of English. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by etrange: 3:53am On Sep 09, 2020
SUPERPACK:
After typing all this your textbook still remember that your president is not an English professor, his deputy is not too, Trump is not, Macron is not and almost all the world leaders we look up to. As long as you can read and write in English you are good to go. I still wonder what human resource has to do with English Language again, I've watched international conferences and have seen a lot of English speaking country representatives finding it hard to be coherent. This same mentality of English as the greatest skill, is what is empowering our old professors in this country to remain redundant, and not even have anything tangible to offer to the society. Why be skillful when you can blow grammar for them and everybody will bow. And the OP was only talking of minor English errors which are easily ignored in informal settings. I am yet to see a country that doesn't have a Nigerian breaking and setting new records in various fields of Education even with their not-so-good use of English. Feel free to prove me wrong.

And who told you that those people breaking those records write poor English? I never said Nigerians don't speak/write good English. A lot of Nigerians speak very good English. I'm saying "English is not our language" is not an excuse for one not to make efforts to learn proper English. This has always been my point. You said, "as long as you can read and write", and you believe someone that constantly types "being" in place of "been", "am" in place of "I'm", "your" in place of "you're", "loose" in place of "lose", "its" in place of "it's", etc. can write? Well, you can keep setting the lowest standards for yourself just to justify mediocrity but know that that only works provided you don't have plans of taking any reasonable apolitical position where communication is key. How do you pass knowledge across if you can't write good English in a country like Nigeria? How many of your textbooks are in Igbo, Housa or Yoruba? It's surprising you're undermining the importance of a language in which our entire knowledge base in penned.

You wonder what the marketability of our human resources has got to do with the a language that has almost become a global mode of communication? I'd like to believe I'm chatting with an educated person but to simplify it, Nigerians in diaspora constitute a source of income to the the country and if these resources don't get good jobs, that income is reduced. And these resources need to have good command of English language to get the kind of positions comparable to those occupied by their foreign counterparts especially in countries where the English language is spoken as a native language. I never said anyone should be a professor and you don't need to overstretch it just to score points when what I'm saying is as clear as crystal.

That our president doesn't have a good command of English language is sad and everyone knows that it affects his understanding of certain concepts and paperworks thus making him more dependent than he should be. We know he's not well educated and we complain about it everyday. But suddenly, you chose to celebrate this mediocrity tonight just to score points. World leaders are expected to speak their national languages well. Trump might make mistakes but he has a good command of the language. English is not Emmanuel Macron's national language. Many people grow up in France not knowing more than a couple of words in English. But English is our national language so there's no excuse. English is only a language and knowing English has never stopped anyone from being a master in his field so if your professors in Nigeria aren't living up to expectation, it's not cause they know too much English. English doesn't take up the space for professional knowledge in one's brain. Those ones that speak terrible English don't know any better. So it's still a function of the poor education system.

It's OK if you don't see any reason to encourage your younger ones to acquire effective communication skills but that doesn't undermine the need for one to be able to express himself or herself in good English. Knowing another man's language does not put you under him, it actually renders him naked before you. I speak 5 languages out of which 3 are foreign to Nigeria and I know how far that has brought me in my career and social life out here in the western world. So when I advocate for effective communication skills, I do so from a place of genuine concern and with good intentions.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by WoundedLamb: 4:56am On Sep 09, 2020
etrange:


And who told you that those people breaking those records write poor English? I never said Nigerians don't speak/write good English. A lot of Nigerians speak very good English. I'm saying "English is not our language" is not an excuse for one not to make efforts to learn proper English. This has always been my point. You said, "as long as you can read and write", and you believe someone that constantly types "being" in place of "been", "am" in place of "I'm", "your" in place of "you're", "loose" in place of "lose", "its" in place of "it's", etc. can write? Well, you can keep setting the lowest standards for yourself just to justify mediocrity but know that that only works provided you don't have plans of taking any reasonable apolitical position where communication is key. How do you pass knowledge across if you can't write good English in a country like Nigeria? How many of your textbooks are in Igbo, Housa or Yoruba? It's surprising you're undermining the importance of a language in which our entire knowledge base in penned.


Bro, you've said it everything that has to be said. You must know that people don't usually give in on Nairaland even when it's clear they aren't making sense so I suggest you leave that guy and save yourself the stress.

Just my opinion.

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Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by etrange: 4:57am On Sep 09, 2020
WoundedLamb:


Bro, you've said it everything that has to be said. You must know that people don't usually give in on Nairaland even when it's clear they aren't making sense so I suggest you leave that guy and save yourself the stress.

Just my opinion.

Thanks!
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by SUPERPACK: 7:16am On Sep 09, 2020
etrange:


And who told you that those people breaking those records write poor English? I never said Nigerians don't speak/write good English. A lot of Nigerians speak very good English. I'm saying "English is not our language" is not an excuse for one not to make efforts to learn proper English. This has always been my point. You said, "as long as you can read and write", and you believe someone that constantly types "being" in place of "been", "am" in place of "I'm", "your" in place of "you're", "loose" in place of "lose", "its" in place of "it's", etc. can write? Well, you can keep setting the lowest standards for yourself just to justify mediocrity but know that that only works provided you don't have plans of taking any reasonable apolitical position where communication is key. How do you pass knowledge across if you can't write good English in a country like Nigeria? How many of your textbooks are in Igbo, Housa or Yoruba? It's surprising you're undermining the importance of a language in which our entire knowledge base in penned.

You wonder what the marketability of our human resources has got to do with the a language that has almost become a global mode of communication? I'd like to believe I'm chatting with an educated person but to simplify it, Nigerians in diaspora constitute a source of income to the the country and if these resources don't get good jobs, that income is reduced. And these resources need to have good command of English language to get the kind of positions comparable to those occupied by their foreign counterparts especially in countries where the English language is spoken as a native language. I never said anyone should be a professor and you don't need to overstretch it just to score points when what I'm saying is as clear as crystal.

That our president doesn't have a good command of English language is sad and everyone knows that it affects his understanding of certain concepts and paperworks thus making him more dependent than he should be. We know he's not well educated and we complain about it everyday. But suddenly, you chose to celebrate this mediocrity tonight just to score points. World leaders are expected to speak their national languages well. Trump might make mistakes but he has a good command of the language. English is not Emmanuel Macron's national language. Many people grow up in France not knowing more than a couple of words in English. But English is our national language so there's no excuse. English is only a language and knowing English has never stopped anyone from being a master in his field so if your professors in Nigeria aren't living up to expectation, it's not cause they know too much English. English doesn't take up the space for professional knowledge in one's brain. Those ones that speak terrible English don't know any better. So it's still a function of the poor education system.

It's OK if you don't see any reason to encourage your younger ones to acquire effective communication skills but that doesn't undermine the need for one to be able to express himself or herself in good English. Knowing another man's language does not put you under him, it actually renders him naked before you. I speak 5 languages out of which 3 are foreign to Nigeria and I know how far that has brought me in my career and social life out here in the western world. So when I advocate for effective communication skills, I do so from a place of genuine concern and with good intentions.

I think our argument is overstretched by lack of conceptual definition of terms here. Are we arguing based on OP's point about common mistakes in written English or command in spoken English? Because we all know that the level of understanding of both differs. And also thank you for admitting that Trump is not also good in English too, and still remains the world's number one citizen. In other not to continue going back and forth in this topic I will like to say, ''Let us agree to disagree.'' Thanks.
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by Nobody: 7:22am On Sep 09, 2020
Lol... ..

"I am or I'm"
Re: Why Do Some Nlers Always Make This Mistake? by ymstar(m): 9:57am On Sep 09, 2020
Let the argumentative essay continue please, I'm learning one or two things from your essay, please continue.

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