People here get carried away by amazing front-end. They don't care much about what the app actually does.

A certain fellow posted 2 projects here recently, which were nice. You could easily conclude that the guy was a junior who knew his onions (or tutorials) but he received serious bashing from a fellow, probably because his UI wasn't so great.

But the app did what he said it does, login and registration working properly, you could create a post, you could upload a picture that could be liked (more than once since you don't need to be authenticated to post a picture), it has a view counter...

Another fellow posted his startup here, a lot of people seriously complained about "the hero" which didn't received proper x-axis margin. But only few dived into the app to test it.

Another fellow here few months ago built a static portfolio website, which was very good, it was well animated and the guy received serious praises here.


This makes me wonder whether we have more users than programmers here.

First impression matters, people judge sites by the ui if the ui(frontend) is ugly then the website is already bad regardless of how functional the back end is, but if the ui is good then after some time of using it (it's not so easy to notice how horrible the back end is) then would the user notice if the website is good or bad.

Well one thing I notice is that programmers really suck at design, well I know I do

SegFault:
First impression matters, people judge sites by the ui if the ui(frontend) is ugly then the website is already bad regardless of how functional the back end is, but if the ui is good then after some time of using it (it's not so easy to notice how horrible the back end is) then would the user notice if the website is good or bad.

Yea I get your but when you are learning you would expect feedback based on what you are learning as you are not really building an app to sale or product.

I know the thread he spoke about the guy who built the image sharing site with go, obviously that's a beginner just learning go maybe following along a tutorial or course and when you are doing that your goal isn't to shop out the most beautifully pleasing ui but just understand what you are learning and get your code and app to work. It would be a different scenario if the guy was say learning ui design then you critique his ui but someone learning go you critique the app - functionality, code etc as he is not a designer.

Deicide:
Well one thing I notice is that programmers really suck at design, well I know I do

A programmer is not a designer though one can be both. It is more like hiring a bricklayer and instantly expecting him to also be an amazing painter though one can be both.

One thing I noticed is.... No real programmer visit this shitholee section anymore



Only wannabes and Wordpress or php script pasters everywhere

Very true but karleb most times your app is first seen by someone in HR before it gets to the development team. If the HR person sees an ugly app he is gonna think the app is rubbish. One just has to make their app look good o. If it looks good they assume it works good.

tensazangetsu20:
Very true but karleb most times your app is first seen by someone in HR before it gets to the development team. If the HR person sees an ugly app he is gonna think the app is rubbish. One just has to make their app look good o. If it looks good they assume it works good.

I agree.

My issue is when a fellow programmer criticizes an app like HR managers. If my UI is ugly tell me that but don't stop there, check to see if my login and registration works properly.

Check to see if my website is prone to SQL injection...

It becomes funny when fellow programmers don't factor in the 300, 400 and 500 HTTP errors a programmer faced or even the stress of hosting server driven website for the first time to declare an application unfit just because of bad or a not so good UI.

Karleb:


I agree.

My issue is when a fellow programmer criticizes an app like HR managers. If my UI is ugly tell me that but don't stop there, check to see if my login and registration works properly.

Check to see if my website is prone to SQL injection...

It becomes funny when fellow programmers don't factor in the 300, 400 and 500 HTTP errors a programmer faced or even the stress of hosting server driven website for the first time to declare an application unfit just because of bad or a not so good UI.

Yeah true programmers ought to know more. I looked at the guys app and he really did well with authentication. The image app you can also take in images from your computer and show it on the screen. The guy really did a lot of work there.

Functionality and security are the two most important stuff.

See so many news of data breaches here https://www.google.com/search?q=data+breach&client=ms-android-samsung&prmd=niv&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj8hv2buo_sAhUiUBUIHRShBZgQ_AUoAXoECBkQAQ&biw=360&bih=560&dpr=4
costing companies a lot of money and reputation. These are the issues with self taught programmers they care more about the look, latest technology and plugins whether or not it can handle all the functionalities and security required.