Whenever we hear the word journey, our natural instinct assume it to be a physical movement from one place to another. My own journey was more mental than physical. It involved a gradual shift in my belief.

grew up in a 4 Catholic family. I attended cathceism and the block rosary and accepted whatever was fed into my ears . One teaching that kept troubling my heart was the story of Abraham obeying Gods’ directive to kill his son. I left the church a sadder person . I wondered If my dad would kill me If he were instructed to do so. I could not muster the courage to do ask him. I feared him more than a mouse feared a cat.I was convinced he would. I asked my mom .She avoided the question the first tine. I could sence the discomfort it caused her the second time.I learnt not to raise the question again

Things began to change the moment I began to read the Bible. I discovered more ethical issues. God servant instructing wild animals to devor children for mocking his bald head. I remembered my youngest brother had earlier mocked my granddad for having wrinkled face. My grand dad laughed at the boy . If he could wave such aside without getting angry,why would a prophet of God kill children for such? While I was battling with the best way to make sence of this? The story of God killing the man who tried to save the ark of the covenant disturbed my spirit. By now, you must have guessed that I have a phobia for violence and death.

The numerous death stories made me anxious that I stopped reading old testament and concentrated on new testament. The Gospel God was a God of Love, compassion and forgiveness.I found it impossible to reconcile the two. It is either they are two different gods or one God who repented . I prefer to go by my third explanation + MAN PERCEPTION OF GOD CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. The old testament toman perceived God the same way they perceived their elders- one to be obeyed blindly and feared. Jesus saw God as a friend to be loved and treated as equal to oneself . Jesus philosophy seemed to resonate with me.


As I studied further, I realized a variation in the teaching of Paul. Jesus seemed to break down patriarchy. Paul supported patriarchy. Jesus taught faith and works as requirement for salvation. Paul promoted only works. I am saddled with the same task of reconciling the two.

chose to stick with a mentor. It is easier than for a growing child to combine series of mentors and trying to find a middle line amidst the cobtrafiction. No two individual think exactly in the same way. ..Jesus is the mentor . . His philosophy is more humanistic.

But God does not change/repent na, does He?

tobechi74:
The numerous death stories made me anxious that I stopped reading old testament and concentrated on new testament. The Gospel God was a God of Love, compassion and forgiveness.I found it impossible to reconcile the two. It is either they are two different gods or one God who repented . I prefer to go by my third explanation + MAN PERCEPTION OF GOD CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. The old testament toman perceived God the same way they perceived their elders- one to be obeyed blindly and feared. Jesus saw God as a friend to be loved and treated as equal to oneself . Jesus philosophy seemed to resonate with me.


As I studied further, I realized a variation in the teaching of Paul. Jesus seemed to break down patriarchy. Paul supported patriarchy. Jesus taught faith and works as requirement for salvation. Paul promoted only works. I am saddled with the same task of reconciling the two.

I the LORD do not change
Malachi 3:6

Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Ok

St Paul, St Peter, neither St John is the way.


Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life, Nobody comes to the father except through me.


I think it is best if we ponder deeply on the teachings of Jesus. Although He instructed the apostles that the holy spirit will descend upon them and give them understanding and teachings, so that doesn't make their own teachings an error.

The most important thing is to listen to the one who is to come.

Good

AntiChristian:
But God does not change/repent na, does He?



I the LORD do not change
Malachi 3:6

Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Man perception of God changed over the years .

tobechi74:
Man perception of God changed over the years .

You skirted the question posed.

God does not Change. You posted that the Old Testament idea of God does not agree with you, so instead you chose to go with the New Testament stories of Jesus Christ, ignoring the God of the Old testament, why?

AntiChristian:
But God does not change/repent na, does He?



I the LORD do not change
Malachi 3:6

Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

The guy said man's perception change about God. he didn't say God changed. I believe you can fathom between the two

Kobojunkiee:
You skirted the question posed.

God does not Change. You posted that the Old Testament idea of God does not agree with you, so instead you chose to go with the New Testament stories of Jesus Christ, ignoring the God of the Old testament, why?

A 3 year old dad thinks his dad is the wisest, strongest man in the world who can beat up everybody. As l time passes, he withnesses a tiny mosquito bite his dad to illness. He changes his theory. My dad is no longer the strongest.
Later, his dad looses money to MMM, THen he realized his dad is not as smart as he thought.

Did his dad change all this while? No, his belief about his dad changed. Religion is an / change evolution of man idea, belief about the creator(s)

delkuf:
The guy said man's perception change about God. he didn't say God changed. I believe you can fathom between the two

. Thanks for understanding.I thought I made it simpler enough

tobechi74:
A 3 year old dad thinks his dad is the wisest, strongest man in the world who can beat up everybody. As l time passes, he withnesses a tiny mosquito bite his dad to illness. He changes his theory. My dad is no longer the strongest.
Later, his dad looses money to MMM, THen he realized his dad is not as smart as he thought.

Did his dad change all this while? No, his belief about his dad changed. Religion is an / change evolution of man idea, belief about the creator(s)

You are still not responding to what was asked you. We are not here discussing religion here. You created this thread to explain your own views and idea about the person of God, not what others see, remember? Below is what you posted

tobechi74:
The numerous death stories made me anxious that I stopped reading old testament and concentrated on new testament. The Gospel God was a God of Love, compassion and forgiveness.I found it impossible to reconcile the two. It is either they are two different gods or one God who repented . I prefer to go by my third explanation + MAN PERCEPTION OF GOD CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. The old testament toman perceived God the same way they perceived their elders- one to be obeyed blindly and feared. Jesus saw God as a friend to be loved and treated as equal to oneself . Jesus philosophy seemed to resonate with me.
As I studied further, I realized a variation in the teaching of Paul. Jesus seemed to break down patriarchy. Paul supported patriarchy. Jesus taught faith and works as requirement for salvation. Paul promoted only works. I am saddled with the same task of reconciling the two.

Does the comment in bold not reflect your own belief in a difference between the God of Old Testament and the New Testament?

tobechi74:
The numerous death stories made me anxious that I stopped reading old testament and concentrated on new testament. The Gospel God was a God of Love, compassion and forgiveness.I found it impossible to reconcile the two. It is either they are two different gods or one God who repented . I prefer to go by my third explanation + MAN PERCEPTION OF GOD CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. The old testament toman perceived God the same way they perceived their elders- one to be obeyed blindly and feared. Jesus saw God as a friend to be loved and treated as equal to oneself . Jesus philosophy seemed to resonate with me.

As I studied further, I realized a variation in the teaching of Paul. Jesus seemed to break down patriarchy. Paul supported patriarchy. Jesus taught faith and works as requirement for salvation. Paul promoted only works. I am saddled with the same task of reconciling the two.

AntiChristian:
But God does not change/repent na, does He?

I the LORD do not change
- Malachi 3:6

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Numbers 23:19

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever".
Hebrews 13:8

.

tobechi74:
Man perception of God changed over the years .

Kobojunkiee:
You skirted the question posed.

God does not Change. You posted that the Old Testament idea of God does not agree with you, so instead you chose to go with the New Testament stories of Jesus Christ, ignoring the God of the Old testament, why?

tobechi74:
A 3 year old dad thinks his dad is the wisest, strongest man in the world who can beat up everybody. As l time passes, he withnesses a tiny mosquito bite his dad to illness. He changes his theory. My dad is no longer the strongest.
Later, his dad looses money to MMM, THen he realized his dad is not as smart as he thought.

Did his dad change all this while? No, his belief about his dad changed. Religion is an / change evolution of man idea, belief about the creator(s)

tobechi74 , fyi, religion that is true, pure and one is God finds no fault in (i.e. meaning, religion that is faultless as in meaning has no flaws et cetera) is not "an/change evolution of man idea, belief about the creator(s)" sic

Kobojunkie:
You are still not responding to what was asked you. We are not here discussing religion here. You created this thread to explain your own views and idea about the person of God, not what others see, remember? Below is what you posted

Does the comment in bold not reflect your own belief in a difference between the God of Old Testament and the New Testament?

Religion is man attempt to understand God . God is static. Whom we think God is has changed

tobechi74:
Religion is man attempt to understand God . God is static. Whom we think God is has changed

Religion? What has religion to do with your personal views of the God of the Old testament being different from the God of the New Testament?

Do you, even now, believe that the God of the Old Testament is different from the God of the New Testament? A simple yes or no will suffice!

Kobojunkie:
Religion? What has religion to do with your personal views of the God of the Old testament being different from the God of the New Testament?

Do you, even now, believe that the God of the Old Testament is different from the God of the New Testament? A simple yes or no will suffice!

If I may..God in the old testament is consciousness personified...while in the new testament is portrayed as a Jewish man and a genie up in the sky that grants wishes..

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=94916124] Religion? What has religion to do with your personal views of the God of the Old testament being different from the God of the New Testament?

Do you, even now, believe that the God of the Old Testament is different from the God of the New Testament? A simple yes or no will suffice![/quote

God is static. Does not change.

I remember when ancient men thought the Earth was flat and modern man said Earth is round. Does it mean the ancient man Earth is different from modern man Earth?

sonmvayina:
If I may..God in the old testament is consciousness personified...while in the new testament is portrayed as a Jewish man and a genie up in the sky that grants wishes..

The God of the old testament did not change His mind in the New Testament. He is exactly the same God.

tobechi74:
God is static. Does not change.
I remember when ancient men thought the Earth was flat and modern man said Earth is round. Does it mean the ancient man Earth is different from modern man Earth?

We are humans, known to say one thing yet believe another.

tobechi74:
The numerous death stories made me anxious that I stopped reading old testament and concentrated on new testament. The Gospel God was a God of Love, compassion and forgiveness.I found it impossible to reconcile the two. It is either they are two different gods or one God who repented . I prefer to go by my third explanation + MAN PERCEPTION OF GOD CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. The old testament toman perceived God the same way they perceived their elders- one to be obeyed blindly and feared. Jesus saw God as a friend to be loved and treated as equal to oneself . Jesus philosophy seemed to resonate with me.

As I studied further, I realized a variation in the teaching of Paul. Jesus seemed to break down patriarchy. Paul supported patriarchy. Jesus taught faith and works as requirement for salvation. Paul promoted only works. I am saddled with the same task of reconciling the two.

The comment above no longer holds true for you?

tobechi74:
Religion is man attempt to understand God. God is static. Whom we think God is has changed

Please give to the best of your understanding, knowledge and theology your answers to the following, easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, point blank and straightforward questions:
1/ In one or two sentences, make it three if you have, what is the biblical meaning of religion?
2/ Give two to three examples or demonstration of what question #1 above, asked what biblical religion is
3/ Give bible verses to that clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, that supports your answers in
4/ Say ONE word, that captures the core essence of what biblical religion is about
5/ If you claim that "Religion is man attempt to understand God ..." sic, then what is the difference between religion and theology?

Kobojunkie:
The God of the old testament did not change His mind in the New Testament. He is exactly the same God.

Who are you patronizing.?

God is consciousness personified..not a man or a human being...

sonmvayina:
Who are you patronizing.?
God is consciousness personified..not a man or a human being...

The topic is in regards to the God of the Bible. Your personal ideas about God are yours to have, but there is no need to distract from the topic here.

Kobojunkie:
The topic is in regards to the God of the Bible. Your personal ideas about God are yours to have, but there is no need to distract from the topic here.

So what or who is the writers of the bible calling God ?

MuttleyLaff:

Please give to the best of your understanding, knowledge and theology your answers to the following, easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, point blank and straightforward questions:
1/ In one or two sentences, make it three if you have, what is the biblical meaning of religion?
2/ Give two to three examples or demonstration of what question #1 above, asked what biblical religion is
3/ Give bible verses to that clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, that supports your answers in
4/ Say ONE word, that captures the core essence of what biblical religion is about
5/ If you claim that "Religion is man attempt to understand God ..." sic, then what is the difference between religion and theology?

This one pass Jamb Question.

1) Bible never mentioned religion so 1-3 are off

4) in one wori- impossible. Not even one paragraph.

5) Religion is culturally dependent while theology is academically based

MuttleyLaff:
Please give to the best of your understanding, knowledge and theology your answers to the following, easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, point blank and straightforward questions:
1/ In one or two sentences, make it three if you have, what is the biblical meaning of religion?
2/ Give two to three examples or demonstration of what question #1 above, asked what biblical religion is
3/ Give bible verses to that clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, that supports your answers in
4/ Say ONE word, that captures the core essence of what biblical religion is about
5/ If you claim that "Religion is man attempt to understand God ..." sic, then what is the difference between religion and theology?

tobechi74:
This one pass Jamb Question.

You call these five easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, point blank and straightforward kindergarten questions "This one pass Jamb Question". Na wa ooo

tobechi74:
1) Bible never mentioned religion so 1-3 are off

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It's alright that you have never come across the word religion in the Bible. No problem, but go look up James 1:27 for starters.

tobechi74:
4) in one wori- impossible. Not even one paragraph.

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Compassion, in one word, is a start for a correct and good answer

tobechi74:
5) Religion is culturally dependent while theology is academically based

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,,

In summary, reading the Bible alone leads one away from Christian Religion

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