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by theFilmtric: 4:59pm On Nov 15, 2020
Qualcomm Snapdragon 730g vs Mediatek helio g90t ?

After a long time, MediaTek is finally back in the powerful chipsets segment. And its comeback is through a gaming-centric smartphone processor: the Helio G90T. Qualcomm also recently launched a mid-range chipset made specifically for gamers: it is the Snapdragon 730G and it is the most amazing Qualcomm chipset just below the Snapdragon 8xx series.
Qualcomm is currently the leader of mobile chipsets. The best Android flagships out there are powered by Qualcomm’s high-end chipset from the Snapdragon 8xx series. Due to Qualcomm’s domination, MediaTek was forced to exit the high-end mobile processor segment in 2017, after releasing the Helio X30. And now it is trying to come back again with the Helio G90T.

Both the chipsets have the G tag on them, meaning that they are specifically made for gaming and by observing the prices of the phones, it is clear that they are not for flagships and they do well in the mid-range devices. Lets discuss Snapdragon 730g vs Mediatek helio g90t.
CPU Comparison




The MediaTek Helio G90T is an octa-core chipset with two ARM Cortex-A76 cores clocking at up to 2.05GHz and there are six ARM Cortex-A55 cores. The manufacturing process here is 12nm one, and these are 64bit CPUs.
On the other side, the Snapdragon 730G has two Kryo 470 Gold CPUs with Cortex A76 cores and the clock speed of up to 2.2GHz, and along with that are six Cortex A55 cores and these are Kryo 470 Silver clocking at 1.8GHz. These are made with an 8nm manufacturing process, which is a better one than the Helio G90T’s process, and even the CPUs here support 64bit architecture.
Battery Efficiency comparision

The battery efficiency of the chipsets depends on the production processes of the chipset. Since the Snapdragon 730G is built with the 8nm process, which is a much more efficient process, the battery consumption is much lesser and the smartphones that are powered by this chipset have a better battery life when compared to the ones powered by the Helio G90T, and that’s because the MediaTek one is made using the 12nm process, which doesn’t make the battery efficient any close to the Kryo cores.
GPU Comparison


The GPU is one of the important parts of the chipset when gaming is the concern, as high-end smartphone games need a good GPU for the same. On these two chipsets, the GPU is strong enough to handle most of the graphics rendering tasks thrown on them, but how different are they?
The MediaTek Helio G90T has the Mali G76 3EEMC4 GPU with the clock speed of 800 MHz, and on the other side, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 730G has Adreno 618 GPU and it has the clock speed of 500 MHz. Now, with the benchmark scores for the GPU on the AnTuTu test, they don’t differ much but MediaTek has been claiming that the performance is better not just because of the better clock speed but also because of the whole chipset being optimized for that one thing – gaming.
Other aspects


The MediaTek Helio G90T supports up to Full HD+ displays while on the other hand, the Snapdragon 730G supports QHD+ displays with a resolution of up to 3360 x 1440 pixels. So, that Qualcomm chipset is something that can be used even on budget flagships to have a better display than the regular ones.
While the Helio G90T supports up to 64MP single camera, the SD730G supports up to 192MP single camera.


As for the RAM support, the Helio G90T supports up to 10GB RAM and the clock speed is 2133MHz, while the SD 730G supports up to 8GB RAM with the clock speed of 1866MHz.
The connectivity is better on the Snapdragon 730G and that is a given, as Qualcomm has been one of the leaders when it comes to offering the modems for better connectivity in their chipsets, and here, the download speeds supported here are 800MBits/s compared to the 600MBits/s supported on the Helio G90T.
Now, which is a better chipset? Snapdragon 730g vs Mediatek helio g90t ?


There are certain differences between the two processors and some very important ones in terms of performance, connectivity, and battery efficiency. 

Average Antutu score of Snapdragon 730g is 2,59,109 points which varies from device to device. Where as Antutu score of Mediatek helio G90T is 2,83,333.
The MediaTek chipset here is a better one when we talk about the core performance and also the GPU performance, but the Snapdragon 730G here is having a better support for cameras and connectivity as well, and it also is much better with the battery efficiency, making it a chipset better for long-term users who care a lot about battery life, but again, phones usually are coming with a big battery capacity in order to facilitate for a good battery life.
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Re: by Sonoyom(m): 5:07pm On Nov 15, 2020
SD
Re: by Eerujeeje: 6:07pm On Nov 15, 2020
Ok

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Re: by Kunja2: 6:56pm On Nov 15, 2020
So overall, the G90T is better
Re: by theFilmtric: 7:10pm On Nov 15, 2020
My ranking of chipsets
[6] Spreadtrum
[5] Exynos
[4] MediaTek
[3] Kirin
[2] Apple Bionic
[1] Snapdragon

Check this www-nairaland-com/4467437/qualcomm-snapdragon-chip-overrated">thread out
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Re: by Realboygenius(m): 10:19pm On Nov 15, 2020
This us really a tough one.
Re: by sunshineV(f): 9:02am On Nov 16, 2020
G90T without a cooling system is a mess. SD 730G for me

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Re: by Rareoil(m): 9:22am On Nov 16, 2020
theFilmtric:
My ranking of chipsets
[6] Spreadtrum
[5] Exynos
[4] MediaTek
[3] Kirin
[2] Apple Bionic
[1] Snapdragon

Check this www-nairaland-com/4467437/qualcomm-snapdragon-chip-overrated">thread out
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The only reason mediatek is ahead of Exynos is because Samsung doesn't want it to compete with snapdragon. This is about to change.

Exynos 2100 coming next year is ahead of snapdragon 865
Re: by theFilmtric: 8:51pm On Nov 16, 2020
Rareoil:


The only reason mediatek is ahead of Exynos is because Samsung doesn't want it to compete with snapdragon. This is about to change.

Exynos 2100 coming next year is ahead of snapdragon 865
And Qualcomm would be looking abi?
Which kind of company shys away from competition?
Exynos can never be better than snapdragon
Quote me anywhere

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Re: by KingAlabi: 10:51pm On Nov 16, 2020
One thing I have noticed is not to based performance mostly on specs sheet
Use am then judge.
Re: by theFilmtric: 12:48am On Nov 17, 2020
MEDIATEK HELIO G70 OR QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON 665?

The Helio G70 is one of MediaTek’s newest processors. Since its announcement in January 2020, the processor has appeared in one device so far, and that is the Realme C3. Helio G70 is developed by Mediatek to compete Snapdragon 665. Mediatek also launched a video in which they have compered realme c3 (phone with helio g70 processor) with oppo A9 (phone with Snapdragon 665 processor). Lets compare the two.
CPU Comparison


Initially let us discuss manufacturing process for both of them, Helio g70 has 12 nm Manufacturing process and Snapdragon 665 has 11nm manufacturing process. Hence Snapdragon 665 chipset is power efficient and have low battery consumption. Mediatek helio g70 is octa core processor it has 2 cortex A75 performance cores clocked at 2.0 GHZ frequency and 6 cortex A55 efficiency cores clocked at 1.7 GHZ frequency. 

Qualcomm Snapdragon 665 is also a octa core processor. It has 4 Kryo 260 Gold cores clocked at 2.0 GHz and 4 Kryo 260 Silver cores clocked at 1.8 GHZ. According to AnTuTu score it shows that Helio G70 wins the round with 193,790 points as against the Snapdragon 665’s 166,126 points.
GPU and Gaming Comparison.


Mediatek Helio g70 uses ARM Mali-G52 MC2 gpu. It has maximum clock frequency of 820 Mhz. On the other hand Qualcomm Snapdragon 665 uses adreno 610 gpu which has maximum clock speed of 600 MHZ. Both the processor provides excellent performance for gaming in mid range category.
Camera


Mediatek Helio g70 processor has 48 MP single camera support and 16 MP dual camera support. Snapdragon 665 has 48 MP single camera support and 16 MP dual camera support. Snapdragon 665 processor can record 4k videos with 30 fps, Helio g70 can record 2k videos with 30 fps.
Display


Mediatek Helio g70 can support 2520 x 1080 Max display Resolution. Where as Snapdragon 665 can support  2520 x 1080 Max screen resolution.

RAM Support

Mediatek Helio g70 can support upto 8 GB of ram with frequency 1800 MHz. Where as Snapdragon 665 can support upto 8 GB of ram with frequency 1866 MHz.

Connectivity


Both these processors supports 4G connectivity. Upload and download speed of Mediatek Helio G70 are 100 Mbps and 300 Mbps respectively. Where as Snapdragon 665 provides 600 Mbps download speed and 150 Mbps of upload speed.

Conclusion (Mediatek Helio G70 vs Snapdragon 665)

According cpu and gpu comparison Mediatek helio g70 is providing excellent performance as compared to Snapdragon 665. Camera and display support of both these chipsets is also similar. According to AnTuTu score helio g70 is clear winner here.

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Re: by Rareoil(m): 4:45am On Nov 17, 2020
theFilmtric:

And Qualcomm would be looking abi?
Which kind of company shys away from competition?
Exynos can never be better than snapdragon
Quote me anywhere

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Samsung doesn't have to be better, they already won the contract to manufacture snapdragon 875 worth $1 billion. There is no need making a better chip to compete with snapdragon.
Re: by theFilmtric: 6:13am On Nov 23, 2020
Mid-range HiSilicon Kirin 820 5G platform
Earlier this year, a 3C certification listing of the Honor 30S suggested that the smartphone might be the first from the company to feature Huawei’s all-new HiSilicon Kirin 820 5G platform. At the time, we had no information about the new chipset from the company, except for the fact that it would be a mid-range chip with 5G support. Now, at the recently concluded Honor 30S launch event in China, the company had finally announced the Kirin 820 5G chipset.



As expected, the HiSilicon Kirin 820 5G platform was targeted at the mid-range smartphone segment and it’s a minor step up from the older Kirin 810 platform. Much like the Kirin 810, the new chipset is based on a 7nm architecture and consists of four ARM Cortex A76 big cores and four ARM Cortex A55 little cores. However, unlike the Kirin 810, which had all of its A76 cores clocked at 2.2GHz, the Kirin 820 5G has one A76 core clocked at 2.36GB, while the other three are clocked at 2.22GHz. Thanks to this new approach, the Kirin 820 boasts of up to 27% improved performance over the older chip.



On the GPU front, the Kirin 820 5G makes use of a Mali-G57 6-core GPU, which offers 38% better performance over the Mali-G52 GPU on the Kirin 810. The updated GPU also brings support for GPU Turbo and Kirin Gaming+ 2.0. Huawei has also packed in an in-house NPU on the Kirin 820, which improves AI performance by 73% over the Kirin 810.



Additionally, much like its flagship Kirin 990 chip, the Kirin 820 pack in Kirin ISP 5.0 which brings support for BM3D SLR image noise reduction, video dual-domain noise reduction, and support for 4K video capture at 60fps.



To offer 5G capabilities, the Kirin 820 packs in the same modem as the Kirin 990, which supports dual-mode SA/NSA 5G. The all-new Honor 30S is the first device to feature the new Kirin 820 5G chipset and we can’t wait to get our hands on the device to see how the new platform stacks up against Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 765G.

The post Huawei launches new mid-range HiSilicon Kirin 820 5G platform appeared first on xda-developers.

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Re: by iTroll: 7:17am On Nov 23, 2020
all this one us just talk on paper.

use the exynos 9810 on the S9+ and Note 10+ and you'll dump this mediatek thing
not saying exynos is the best but using if in real life is better than all this.

I thought SD 425 was crap till I saw what the RN4 could do
Re: by theFilmtric: 7:29am On Nov 23, 2020
iTroll:
all this one us just talk on paper.

use the exynos 9810 on the S9+ and Note 10+ and you'll dump this mediatek thing
not saying exynos is the best but using if in real life is better than all this.

I thought SD 425 was crap till I saw what the RN4 could do
I'll chose Snap over helio anyday anytime
Exynos is overpriced MediaTek
And Mediatek is quite nice its hated because of people's bad experience with their fustrating P22 P23 A22 chips on “Flagship” Transsion Phones
Their G and Dimensity series are nice

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Re: by iTroll: 7:34am On Nov 23, 2020
theFilmtric:

I'll chose Snap over helio anyday anytime
Exynos is overpriced MediaTek
And Mediatek is quite nice its hated because of people's bad experience with their fustrating P22 P23 A22 chips on “Flagship” Transsion Phones
Their G and Dimensity series are nice

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exynos 9810 = SD 865 in case you don't know
.you might want to argue buh that's cool.

exynos is better than mtk in terns of flagship as far as I'm concerned
Re: by theFilmtric: 8:31am On Nov 23, 2020
QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON 865 vs MEDIATEK DIMENSITY 1000


Qualcomm is the king of the hill when it comes to flagship processors, as virtually all major manufacturers (with the exception of Huawei) use its Snapdragon 800 series in their top-end phones.

After a lengthy absence in the space, however, MediaTek is once again playing in the flagship segment. So how does Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 865 processor compare to the MediaTek Dimensity 1000? Find out in this Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 vs MediaTek Dimensity 1000 specs comparison!

Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 vs MediaTek Dimensity 1000 specs
CPU CONFIG
SD865>1x 2.84GHz (Cortex A77)

3x 2.4GHz (Cortex A77)

4x 1.8GHz (Cortex-A55)
Dimensity 1000>
4x 2.6GHz (Cortex A77)

4x 2GHz (Cortex A55)
GPU
SD865>Adreno 650
MTK Dimensity 1000>Mali-G77MP9
AI
SD865>Hexagon 698
Hexagon Tensor Accelerator
Dimensity 1000>hexa-core APU
2x heavy cores

3x medium cores

1x light core
PROCESS
SD865>7nm
Dimensity 1000>7nm
CAMERA SUPPORT
SD865>200MP snapshot / 64MP single with Zero Shutter Lag

24MP dual camera
Dimensity 1000>24MP dual camera80MP single / 32 and 16MP dual
VIDEO CAPTURE
SD865>8K @ 30fps, 4K UHD @ 120fps, 720p @ 960fps
Dimensity 1000>4K UHD @ 60fps
[u]CHARGING

SD865>Quick Charge 4+

Quick Charge AI
Dimensity1000>Pump express
MODEM
SD865>X55 5G & RF system

7500 Mbps down

3000 Mbps up

mmWave Sub-6Ghz
Dimensity>
Sub-6GhzHelio M70 5G

4700 Mbps down

2500 Mbps up

Sub-6Ghz

CPU/GPU

Take a look at sheer horsepower and there’s no denying that both chipsets offer an impressive amount of grunt. Qualcomm serves up a three-tier CPU arrangement, featuring one semi-custom Cortex-A77 core clocked at 2.84Ghz, three semi-custom Cortex-A77 cores clocked at 2.4Ghz, and four tweaked Cortex-A55 cores running at 1.8Ghz.

MediaTek’s chipset opts for a more conventional approach, using four Cortex-A77 cores at 2.6Ghz and four Cortex-A55 cores at 2Ghz. It’s interesting that the company didn’t go after the heavy/medium/light CPU arrangement it pioneered in the first place.



Modern smartphone SoCs are filled with lots of different processing components, but the two most commonly used are the Central Processing Unit (CPU) and Graphics Processing Unit (CPU). While acronyms may be similar and both …
If you assume everything else is equal, then it seems like Qualcomm might have the edge in single-core performance due to its top-end core hitting 2.84Ghz. But MediaTek could be very competitive in terms of multi-core performance owing to its four Cortex-A77 CPUs clocked at 2.6Ghz — higher than Qualcomm’s medium cores. Again, this is assuming that everything (i.e. cache, manufacturing process, and other factors) is equal between the two chipsets.

An apparent Snapdragon 865 Geekbench score reveals a single-core score of 4,303 points and a multi-core score of 13,344. Meanwhile, MediaTek previously claimed that its Dimensity 1000 chipset hits a multi-core score of 12,096 points (there’s no word on single-core performance). Either way, it looks like MediaTek is very close to, but not quite passing Qualcomm in the CPU department if both benchmarks are accurate.
Shifting to graphical performance, Qualcomm’s Adreno GPUs are generally considered the best smartphone GPUs in the industry. Arm’s Mali graphics have usually lagged behind Adreno silicon in this regard, although manufacturers have managed to narrow the gap somewhat by using more Mali graphics cores. The Snapdragon 865 GPU delivers a claimed 25% improvement over the Snapdragon 855, and therefore has an improvement of roughly 10% over the Snapdragon 855 Plus.

MediaTek’s Dimensity 1000 touts a new-generation Mali-G77 MP9 GPU, with two fewer cores than the Exynos 990‘s Mali-G77 MP11. In fact, back at the chip’s launch, MediaTek touted 15% and 11% better scores in GFXBench Manhattan 3.0 and 3.1 tests respectively versus the Snapdragon 855. This certainly suggests a high-end gaming platform, but that was against the Snapdragon 855 rather than the Snapdragon 855 Plus. So we’re expecting the Snapdragon 865 to close in on and likely pass MediaTek here.

Still, the fact that both Samsung and MediaTek are using fewer GPU cores in its new chipsets suggests Arm is making big strides.


We’re also seeing GPU power being used to enable higher refresh rates, and both brands deliver. Qualcomm is the clear winner, supporting 60Hz at 4K, and up to 144Hz for QHD+ screens. MediaTek notes that it supports 90Hz at QHD+, and 120Hz at FHD+ resolutions.

Even if the two companies were on equal footing in terms of graphics, Qualcomm still has one big additional feather in its cap. The Snapdragon 865, 765 series, and future chipsets will allow users to update GPU drivers via the Play Store. Graphics drivers are usually packaged in system updates, so this should theoretically result in a faster way to get updated drivers.

PU driver updates can deliver bug fixes, as well as faster, more polished performance in games and other apps. But mobile phones have usually lagged far behind PCs when it comes to the frequency of updates.

We’ve asked MediaTek and Arm about the possibility of them implementing GPU driver updates via the Play Store in the future. Arm says it’s unable to comment on the plans of “specific SoC developers,” while MediaTek referred us to Arm.

AI



MediaTek was a relatively early mover in the AI silicon space, bringing an AI Processing Unit (APU) to its mid-range Helio P60 back in early 2018. The company has evolved the AI silicon since then, and its Dimensity 1000 chipset now has a six-core APU, featuring two heavy cores, three medium cores, and one light core.

The company says this multi-core AI silicon setup allows for a better power/energy consumption balance for a given task. So a Dimensity 1000-powered phone can fire up the light core for facial recognition and call on a heavy core for camera-related tasks.

Opinion: Qualcomm Snapdragon 765 and 7c are bigger deals than you might think

The company touted 4.5 TOPS of computing power, presumably including the APU only. Meanwhile, Qualcomm says its Snapdragon 865 AI Engine delivers 15 TOPS of performance, but it’s unclear whether this applies to the dedicated AI silicon only or the entire chipset.

In any event, the third-party AI-Benchmark website lists the Dimensity 1000 at number one (56,158 points), ahead of the second-placed Kirin 990 5G (52,403) and the Snapdragon 855 Plus (24,652). We can obviously expect the new Qualcomm chipset to climb the ranks, but could it be number one? Either way, AI benchmarks are in a bit of a weird space right now, owing to the varying AI hardware designs and the sheer number of different workloads.

Connectivity



Both the Dimensity 1000 and the Snapdragon 865 support 5G, but the two trade wins in the areas of network support and integration. The Snapdragon 865 supports both mmWave and sub-6Ghz flavors of 5G. Meanwhile, the Dimensity 1000 only supports sub-6Ghz.

Sub-6Ghz is expected to be the dominant type of 5G connectivity anyway, but MediaTek’s lack of mmWave support will be disappointing for subscribers in the likes of the US, parts of Europe, and Japan. It also means those hoping for a true world phone in the 5G era, capable of running on any network, might be out of luck with a Dimensity 1000 device for now.

My pick
Why there’s no integrated 5G modem in the Snapdragon 865

The lack of an integrated 5G modem inside Qualcomm's Snapdragon 865 processor has drawn criticism from some pundits, especially given that rival chips boast this feature and Qualcomm has an integrated 5G modem in its …
MediaTek’s processor offers an integrated 5G modem as opposed to the Snapdragon 865’s external modem. Integrated solutions are usually more power efficient and occupy a smaller space than external solutions.

But Qualcomm posits that the Snapdragon 865’s modem is more power efficient at 4G than its previous X24 modem anyway. It also touts mmWave support, which shows that integrated versus external doesn’t necessarily have a bearing on capabilities. It’s similar to the PC graphics card sector in some ways, where external graphics cards are generally more capable but can consume much more power than integrated solutions.

In terms of speeds, MediaTek says it supports 4.7Gbps downlink and 2.5Gbps uplink speeds. Meanwhile, Qualcomm boasts faster speeds of 7.5Gbps downlink and 3Gbps uplink. The Dimensity 1000 also offers 5G+5G dual-SIM support, which might be handy for travelers or if your networks have patchy 5G coverage.

Camera



There’s no disputing that the Snapdragon 865 is the more impressive beast in this category, touting support for up to 200MP cameras (snapshots without additional processing), 64MP single shooters, or 64MP/64MP dual sensors. Meanwhile, the MediaTek flagship processor serves up 80MP single camera support, 32MP/16MP dual sensors, and up to five cameras otherwise (we assume the Snapdragon 865 is similarly capable in terms of multiple cameras).

Turning to video recording, Qualcomm’s heavyweight SoC is the most impressive chipset we’ve ever seen in the Android smartphone space. The processor offers 8K/30fps support, 4K/120fps capabilities, and “unlimited” 960fps super slow-mo at 720p. The latter feature doesn’t require a specific camera sensor paired with ultra-fast memory, which is great news because almost all ultra high-resolution sensors (40MP+) don’t offer the required memory.



Other Snapdragon 865 features include Dolby Vision recording, multi-frame noise reduction, and the ability to simultaneously capture a 64MP image and 4K HDR video.

MediaTek, meanwhile, is topping out at 4K/60fps recording. This means it’s not quite as impressive as the Qualcomm silicon in terms of video, but puts it on par with last year’s flagship silicon and the new Kirin 990 from Huawei. Other capabilities include multi-frame video HDR (4K), video noise reduction, video bokeh, and support for Google’s AV1 codec (not seen on the Snapdragon chipset). There’s no word on the chipset’s support for super slow-motion video recording.

What else to know?

Both chips are pretty full featured in other areas, as they both support Bluetooth 5.1, Wi-Fi 6, and dual-frequency GPS capabilities.

Qualcomm’s chipset does hold an advantage in memory though, supporting LPDDR5 RAM compared to the slightly older LPDDR4X support seen on the Dimensity 1000. The Snapdragon 865 also supports UFS 3.0 storage, while MediaTek only says it supports “UFS,” suggesting that this is UFS 2.1 instead.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 vs MediaTek Dimensity 1000: The early verdict



It’s encouraging to see MediaTek back in the flagship chipset game after the disappointment that was its last higher end processor. More chipset choice is always a good thing, as it should bring out the best of all silicon players and potentially drive down costs.

In saying so, the spec sheet strongly suggests that Qualcomm’s chipset will find its way into more premium flagships than the Dimensity 1000. The likes of 8K recording and UFS 3.0 are all expected to be requirements for 2020’s ~$1,000 phones. Toss in Qualcomm’s traditionally powerful Adreno graphics as well as mmWave 5G support, and you’ve got a monster of a processor on paper.

More chipset choice is always a good thing.

That’s not to say that the Dimensity 1000 doesn’t earn its flagship status, delivering a very competitive CPU layout, the latest Arm graphics, dual-SIM 5G support, and powerful AI silicon by at least one benchmark. MediaTek refuses to be drawn into questions about cost, but we wouldn’t be surprised if the Dimensity 1000 is cheaper than the Snapdragon 865 too. So if anything, we could see the Dimensity 1000 find its niche in affordable flagships.

That’s it for our Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 vs MediaTek Dimensity 1000 comparison. Which has impressed you the most on paper? Let me know in the comments.
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Re: by thepoweruser(m): 2:04pm On Nov 23, 2020
I'd say you shouldn't underrate Mediatek and Exynos, sir. Why? I'll explain. Mediatek is not the same company it once was. Ever since the Helio P60, they've been through a renaissance. The Dimensity series is the culmination of this achievement. They've been beating Qualcomm in the price-to-performance ratio. Okay, look at it this way: the Realme X7 Pro is way cheaper than a OnePlus Nord and it's still a flagship.
Personally, I don't always trust benchmarks, because they are based on quite unrealistic workloads, can fool you (in Geekbench 5 the Exynos 990 beats the SD865 in single-core while in real life even the Dimensity 820 beats it in sustained performance) and they cannot reliably compare phones with the same chipset. (I use Geekbench to just get an idea of the initial perf. of a new chip, but AnTuTu? Even a UX tweak can double the score, and it's too biased against Chinese phone brands). I'd pick PCMark, 3DMark, specint.2006 (the best) or SpeedTest G over the popular ones.
The Dimensity 1000+ falls somewhere between the SD855+ and the SD865 in raw performance, and it's much better than Kirin 990 5G, which is slightly above the same SD855+. The upcoming MT6893 (Dimensity 2000?) has the 1+ fast+3 medium+4 light core configuration as the 865/+ and will likely beat it in CPU and efficiency. The GPU, however, not really (why the same Mali-G77 MC9, MTK angry why?). The Kirin 990 5G has in my opinion the most efficient 5G modem (and for now only the Kirin 9000 beats it). The D1000 family are the only mobile SoCs on Earth yet to support Dual-SIM Dual-Standby 5G+5G and 4K 60FPS 10-bit AV1 decoding.
I'm really excited by the newly announced Exynos 1080 and the upcoming MT6893. These are the chips that will power the next generation true premium midrangers. Also curious about how the upcoming Exynos 2100 and the Snapdragon 875 will compare in specs. And who knows, maybe they might match Apple's A13 Bionic (hopefully).

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Re: by theFilmtric: 5:26pm On Nov 23, 2020
Re: by theFilmtric: 11:39pm On Nov 23, 2020
iTroll:

exynos 9810 = SD 865 in case you don't know
.you might want to argue buh that's cool.

exynos is better than mtk in terns of flagship as far as I'm concerned
Its also equal to MediaTek Dimensity 1000+

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Re: by sagieramos(m): 2:24am On Nov 24, 2020
Dimensity 1000 is listed among midrange (not flagship) by MediaTek. For now, MediaTek has no flagship. Although, the Dimensity 1000 can compete with SD and Exynos flagship, but MediaTek never push it as flagship chipset even though it's qualified. Maybe they're trying to be pessimistic about it
Re: by theFilmtric: 6:37am On Nov 24, 2020
sagieramos:
Dimensity 1000 is listed among midrange (not flagship) by MediaTek. For now, MediaTek has no flagship. Although, the Dimensity 1000 can compete with SD and Exynos flagship, but MediaTek never push it as flagship chipset even though it's qualified. Maybe they're trying to be pessimistic about it
Exactly.

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Re: by theFilmtric: 7:32am On Nov 24, 2020
MediaTek Helio P95


MediaTek has announced a new mobile processor in february, the Helio P95.This is the chipset on the Oppo A93 that retails for 125000This SoC is a successor to the company's popular Helio P90 chip. That SoC has been included in a ton of budget smartphones to date.
The MediaTek Helio P95 is now here to continue the tradition. This is yet another mid-range processor that will probably be included in a ton of budget Chinese smartphones.
This is a single-cluster, 8-core processor. It comes with two Cortex-A75 cores clocked at 2.2GHz, and six Cortex-A55 cores clocked at 2.0GHz.
The MediaTek Helio P90 offers a 10-percent performance improvement over its predecessor

This SoC also comes with a rather large L3 cache, and it includes the PowerVR GM 94446 GPU. This graphics chip will offer a 10-percent improvement in performance, compared to the Helio P90, claims MediaTek.
This SoC supports up to 8GB of LPDDR4X RAM (1,866MHz), and UFS 2.1 flash storage. In terms of cameras, it supports 64-megapixel sensors, or 25-megapixel + 16-megapixel dual camera setups.
As far as display support is concerned, it supports resolutions of up to 2520 x 1080, with a 21:9 aspect ratio. This SoC also comes with APU 2.0 (AI Processing Unit). That unit offers a 10-percent increase in benchmark performance compared to the Helio P90.
The Helio P95 includes triple ISP with 14-bit RAW and 10-bit YUV processing. AI camera enhancements are also a part of the package, including AI-NR low-light photography, scene identification, 5-person human pose tracking, and so on.
MediaTek's HyperEngine is a part of this offering as well. It comes with improvements in gaming, while it also boosts other aspects of this processor.
It supports Cat. 12 download speeds, and Cat. 13 upload speeds[/b]

This chipset supports 4G LTE connectivity, up to Cat. 12 download speeds, and Cat. 13 upload speeds. 4 x 4 MIMO support is included, and the same goes for 256 QAM, ViLTE, VoLTE, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, and so on.
MediaTek did not say when will we start seeing smartphones fueled by this processor. The company also did not list a single phone that will be fueled by this chip.
Chinese smartphone manufacturers are expected to start making such announcements soon, though. Companies like Ulefone, Elephone, OUKITEL, and a number of others tend to use MediaTek's processors intensively.
Such companies have been using the Helio P70 and P90 quite a bit in the last year or so, so they'll probably do the same with the Helio P95 as soon as it becomes available. We're guessing that the first phones will arrive in Q2 this year, but we'll see.
The post MediaTek Intros Helio P95 SoC, A Successor To Helio P90 appeared first on Android Headlines.

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Re: by thepoweruser(m): 8:22am On Nov 24, 2020
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Exactly.

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Heavens, no! Y'all are getting it wrong (kinda).
The Dimensity 1000C/L are basically watered-down D1000s with the same 5G+5G support and (maybe) the AV1 decoding, while the MT6889Z/CZA Dimensity 1000+ is a bonafide flagship SoC which is duly advertised as such.
Try to understand me. The 'flagship killer' segment requires a phone with flagship-grade performance for less than half the cost of typical flagships, and a Dimensity 820 or even a Kirin 985 won't cut it. Remember that the reason why a lot of global SD865 phones barely launched above 500 USD is primarily because of the cost of the SoC itself. And for damn sure Mediatek is proud of the only dual-SIM 5G flagship chipset on the market (at least until the SD875/Exynos 2100 comes) with this modem still being integrated.
Re: by thepoweruser(m): 8:28am On Nov 24, 2020
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MediaTek Helio P95


MediaTek has announced a new mobile processor in february, the Helio P95.This is the chipset on the Oppo A93 that retails for 125000This SoC is a successor to the company's popular Helio P90 chip. That SoC has been included in a ton of budget smartphones to date.
The MediaTek Helio P95 is now here to continue the tradition. This is yet another mid-range processor that will probably be included in a ton of budget Chinese smartphones.
This is a single-cluster, 8-core processor. It comes with two Cortex-A75 cores clocked at 2.2GHz, and six Cortex-A55 cores clocked at 2.0GHz.
The MediaTek Helio P90 offers a 10-percent performance improvement over its predecessor

This SoC also comes with a rather large L3 cache, and it includes the PowerVR GM 94446 GPU. This graphics chip will offer a 10-percent improvement in performance, compared to the Helio P90, claims MediaTek.
This SoC supports up to 8GB of LPDDR4X RAM (1,866MHz), and UFS 2.1 flash storage. In terms of cameras, it supports 64-megapixel sensors, or 25-megapixel + 16-megapixel dual camera setups.
As far as display support is concerned, it supports resolutions of up to 2520 x 1080, with a 21:9 aspect ratio. This SoC also comes with APU 2.0 (AI Processing Unit). That unit offers a 10-percent increase in benchmark performance compared to the Helio P90.
The Helio P95 includes triple ISP with 14-bit RAW and 10-bit YUV processing. AI camera enhancements are also a part of the package, including AI-NR low-light photography, scene identification, 5-person human pose tracking, and so on.
MediaTek's HyperEngine is a part of this offering as well. It comes with improvements in gaming, while it also boosts other aspects of this processor.
It supports Cat. 12 download speeds, and Cat. 13 upload speeds[/b]

This chipset supports 4G LTE connectivity, up to Cat. 12 download speeds, and Cat. 13 upload speeds. 4 x 4 MIMO support is included, and the same goes for 256 QAM, ViLTE, VoLTE, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, and so on.
MediaTek did not say when will we start seeing smartphones fueled by this processor. The company also did not list a single phone that will be fueled by this chip.
Chinese smartphone manufacturers are expected to start making such announcements soon, though. Companies like Ulefone, Elephone, OUKITEL, and a number of others tend to use MediaTek's processors intensively.
Such companies have been using the Helio P70 and P90 quite a bit in the last year or so, so they'll probably do the same with the Helio P95 as soon as it becomes available. We're guessing that the first phones will arrive in Q2 this year, but we'll see.
The post MediaTek Intros Helio P95 SoC, A Successor To Helio P90 appeared first on Android Headlines.

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The Helio P95 is basically a Helio P90 with faster AI silicon and a few tweaks to the power management and scheduling (Corepilot 4.0), so therefore in raw CPU and GPU performance it is on par with the P90 which is on par with the Snapdragon 710AIE.
Re: by theFilmtric: 2:29pm On Nov 24, 2020
thepoweruser:

The Helio P95 is basically a Helio P90 with faster AI silicon and a few tweaks to the power management and scheduling (Corepilot 4.0), so therefore in raw CPU and GPU performance it is on par with the P90 which is on par with the Snapdragon 710AIE.
There is usually little improvement in SoCs

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Re: by theFilmtric: 10:34pm On Nov 24, 2020
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Re: by theFilmtric: 7:36am On Nov 27, 2020
Mediatek Dimensity 800 vs Snapdragon 765G


Dimensity 800 and Snapdragon 765G are 5G chipsets for mid range smartphones. Dimensity 800 was announced by Mediatek in January 2020, and Snapdragon 765G was announced by Qualcomm in December 2019. When we think Mediatek Dimensity 800 vs Snapdragon 765G then both are equally good chipsets.

Mediatek and Qualcomm both companies are producing smartphone chipsets. Initially people were confused which is better for them, Mediatek or Qualcomm. Letter on people got some understanding that Qualcomm is providing better functionality in there chipsets as compared to Mediatek, therefore in flagship chipset segment Qualcomm was the leader, on the other hand Mediatek is forced to leave the flagship market. Mediatek was popular in entry level smartphones. But with time Mediatek also evolved a lot. Mediatek recently launched powerful chipsets for mid range smartphones with very low price. Those are helio g90t a 4g chipset and dimensity 800 a 5G chipset. Qualcomm also launched Snapdragon 765G for mid range 5G smartphones. Now lets compare these two chipsets. Mediatek Dimensity 800 vs Snapdragon 765G.

CPU Comparison


Initially let us discuss manufacturing process for both of them, Dimensity 800 and Snapdragon 765G both have 7nm manufacturing process. Hence both the chipsets are power efficient and have low battery consumption. Mediatek Dimensity 800 is octa core processor it has 4 cortex A76 performance cores clocked at 2.0 GHZ frequency and 4 cortex A55 efficiency cores clocked at 2.0 GHZ frequency. 
Qualcomm Snapdragon 765G is also a octa core processor. It has 1 A76 core clocked at 2.4 GHZ, 1 A76 core coocked at 2.3 GHZ, 1 A76 core clocked at 2.2 GHZ and 6 A55 cores clocked at 1.8 GHZ. It is very difficult to compare performance of the two Processor from this information because one processor has higher clock frequency and other has higher performance cores.
GPU and Gaming Comparison




Mediatek Dimensity 800 uses Mali-G57 MP4 gpu it is a quad-core GPU. It works on ARMs  valhall first Generation architecture. On the other hand Qualcomm Snapdragon 765G uses adreno 620 gpu which has maximum clock speed of 750 MHZ. Mediatek Dimensity 800 has hyper engine gaming technology for game enhancement. Where as Snapdragon 765G has Qualcomm elite gaming technology. Both the processor provides excellent performance for gaming in mid range category.
Camera


Mediatek dimensity 800 processor has 64 MP single camera support and 32+16 MP dual camera support. Snapdragon 765G has 36 MP single camera support and 22 MP dual camera support. Both processor can record 4k videos with 30 fps.

Display


Mediatek Dimensity 800 can support 90 Hz screen refresh rate on FHD+ display. Where as Snapdragon 765G can support upto 120 Hz screen refresh rate on FHD+ display.

RAM Support


Mediatek dimensity 800 can support upto 16 GB of ram with frequency 2133 MHz. Where as Snapdragon 765G can support upto 12 GB of ram with frequency 2133 MHz.
Connectivity


Both these processors supports 5G connectivity. Upload and download speed of Mediatek dimensity 800 are not disclosed. Where as Snapdragon 765G provides 3.7 Gbps download speed and 1.6 Gbps of upload speed on 5G network. and 1.2 Gbps of download speed and 210 Mbps of upload speed on 4G network.
Conclusion (Mediatek Dimensity 800 vs Snapdragon 765G)


On paper we can see that cpu and gpu performance of both of these processors is almost same but camera support of Snapdragon 765G could be better. Screen refresh rate of Snapdragon 765G is better than Dimensity 800 processor, but it will be worth if smartphone with Dimensity 800 processor come at lower price than smartphones with Snapdragon 765G.

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Re: by theFilmtric: 9:52pm On Nov 27, 2020
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Re: by theFilmtric: 7:53am On Nov 30, 2020
A14 Bionic: Apple’s iPhone 12 Chip Benefits & Improvements Explained

Apple has launched its new iPhone 12 with the latest and powerful Bionic A14 processor chip to enable Night Mode Portrait photos, real-time 4K HDR Dolby Vision, and more. The A14 Bionic chip from Apple has been considered the first processor among all the mobile phones that uses a 5-nanometer manufacturing process. Apple has a tendency to keep improving their CPUs continuously. Although most people expect this processor to be much faster, they should also understand that many advanced features make use of the A14 Bionic chip’s fast speed.

If we talk about the computer processors or chips, the processor’s efficiency and speed get affected by the transistor’s size. According to the information, a 90-nanometer manufacturing process was used to make the process of Apple’s first iPhone. If the process is smaller, less power will be lost. However, the preferable equation is when speed is greater, and the used energy is less comparatively.

Apple’s latest iPhone 12 series is powered by the A14 processor, which is also used to power Apple’s iPad Air 4. Apple has also confirmed that iPad Air 4 can perform faster as compared to several computers. The new iPhone 12 comes with the same chip, and it has drastically enhanced the performance of this recently launched Apple’s smartphone. It comes with an advanced technology camera, which requires a great speed powered by the Bionic A14 chip. This chip has played a crucial role in enhancing the image quality by providing more lighting and color to the iPhone 12. It also played an essential role in Dolby Vision encoding of 4K resolution, up to 60FPS in real-time. Apple also confirmed that the film industry also uses the same process of color grading. It has been considered as Apple’s one of the best achievements.

A14 Efficiency And Augmented Reality

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The Apple iPhone 12 is lighter in weight, smaller in size, and comparatively much thinner than ever. If we compare iPhone 12 with iPhone 11, we will find that this recently launched smartphone from Apple comes with 19% less volume and 15% less weight, even after having the same number of cameras and similar screen sizes. Though iPhone 12 has a lot of advanced features, it still possesses an excellent battery life. It is all because of the highly efficient and powerful A14 processor that consumes less energy and generates more speed.

The iPhone 12 Pro and Pro Max come with another excellent feature of LiDAR, which can be expanded as Light Detection And Ranging. In this feature, the scanner will measure the fired laser light’s time to return to the sensor to detect the distance. With the help of the fantastic speed of the A14 chip, the iPhone 12 Pro and Pro Max can reconstruct a 3D map, which can be used for more accurate photography. It also allows you to take the Portrait Mode photos with the combination of Night Mode. LiDAR also plays an essential role in providing the best Augmented Reality experience.

The A14 Bionic chip in the iPhone 12 also allows an image signal processor to record 4K HDR videos with Dolby Vision and enhanced noise reduction. With the A14 processor, Apple has become the leading company with the best mobile processing power.

After discussing and exploring Apple’s A14 Bionic chip’s features and benefits, we have concluded that Apple has developed one of the most impressive and powerful smartphone chips ever. A14 has drastically improved the performance in the latest iPhone 12 models, and the Apple users always expect these kinds of improvements from the company.
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Re: by theFilmtric: 8:21am On Dec 02, 2020
MediaTek Helio G85 vs Helio G80: What’s Different?

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Xiaomi recently took the wraps off its long-rumored Redmi Note 9 at an online event in Europe. It is the newest addition to the Redmi Note 9 series, which made its debut with the Redmi Note 9 Pro and Note 9 Pro Max in India back in March. Redmi Note 9 shares the same design as its elder siblings, with a punch-hole cutout on the front and square camera on the rear. One key area of difference between the Redmi Note 9 and the Pro variants is, however, the chipset.
Redmi Note 9 is powered by a new MediaTek Helio G85 chipset as opposed to a Snapdragon chipset. Now, neither did MediaTek announce this chipset ahead of the launch nor has it officially revealed anything about it on its website. So, I decided to examine how the Helio G85 differs from the Helio G80. And here are my findings:
Helio G85 vs Helio G80: Specs
Both the Helio G80 and Helio G85 are gaming-centric chipsets from MediaTek. The latter has made its debut about three months after the Helio G80, which was unveiled back in February. So, it’s only natural for us to assume that it brings some upgrades in tow. Right? Let’s take a look at the internal specs of these two chipsets:
Both the Helio G80 and Helio G85 are based on the same 12nm FinFET technology. The Helio G80 incorporates two ARM Cortex-A75 performance cores clocked at up to 2.0GHz and six ARM Cortex-A55 efficiency cores clocked at up to 1.8GHz. As for the Helio G85, it may come as a surprise to you but the CPU inside this chipset is exactly the same as the Helio G80.

Speaking of the GPU, both the Helio G80 and Helio G85 include the same ARM Mali-G52 MC2 GPU aboard the chip. But, there’s a minor difference between the two. The maximum GPU frequency of Helio G85 is 1000MHz whereas that of the Helio G80 is 950MHz. Both the chipsets include the MediaTek HyperEngine and several AI capabilities in tow.

So yeah, the only difference between the Helio G80 and Helio G85 is the overclocked GPU. A 50MHz frequency bump does not sound like a big enough change to demand the launch of a new chipset. Nothing else is know aboutthe Helio G85 at the moment. Here’s a quick specs sheet to round-up everything we have discussed above:
Helio G80

CPU Cores > octa-core
Process > 12nm FinFET
Performance cores > two Cortex-A75 cores, clocked up to 2.0GHz
Efficiency Cores > six Cortex-A55 cores, clocked up to 1.8GHz
GPU > Mali G52 MC2, clocked at 950MHz
Helio G85

CPU Cores > octa-core
Process > 12nm FinFET
Performance cores > two Cortex-A75 cores, clocked up to 2.0GHz
Efficiency Cores > six Cortex-A55 cores, clocked up to 1.8GHz
GPU > Mali G52 MC2, clocked at 1000MHz
AnTuTu Benchmark
We may not have any smartphones powered by the Helio G80 and Helio G85 on us at the moment but Realme and Xiaomi have shared AnTuTu benchmark scores for both chipsets at the Realme 6i and Redmi Note 9 launch events respectively. And well, the AnTuTu benchmark scores for both the chipset are pretty comparable.
As seen in the screenshots above, the Helio G80-powered Realme 6i scores 201,278 points on AnTuTu while the Helio G85-powered Redmi Note 9 scores 205,946 points in the benchmark test. There’s a measly difference between the two, so it doesn’t seem like Helio G80 and Helio G85 have much difference in processing power.
Helio G85 vs Helio G80: Identity Crisis?
In conclusion, it appears like Xiaomi just wanted bragging rights for the use of a new MediaTek chipset – even though it does not bring any substantial upgrade to the table. MediaTek is yet to publish the official specs for the Helio G85, so stay tuned for more information.

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Re: by Nairalandwizerd(m): 8:35am On Dec 02, 2020
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The only reason mediatek is ahead of Exynos is because Samsung doesn't want it to compete with snapdragon. This is about to change.

Exynos 2100 coming next year is ahead of snapdragon 865
and you think snapdragon is sleeping abi?

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