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Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Lukgaf(m): 8:26am On Nov 20, 2020
How authentic is the saying that " if someone makes a Muslim get up from his seat, he will be deprived of his seat in Paradise."

Praise be to Allah.

1. We have not come across any hadith which says that whoever makes someone get up from his seat will be deprived of his seat in Paradise

We have not come across a hadith that says this, that if someone does that, he will be deprived of his seat in Paradise!

2. The ruling on making someone get up from his seat

The one who reaches a permissible place first has more right to it, and it is not permissible for someone else to make him get up from his seat so that he can sit there instead.

It was narrated from Ibn ‘Umar, from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), that he forbade making a man get up from his seat so that someone else can sit there; rather he told them to accommodate one another and make room.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6270) and Muslim 2177).

The Sunnah states that a person has the right to remain in the place where he is sitting until he no longer needs it.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “If one of you gets up from his seat, then comes back to it, he has more right to it.” Narrated by Muslim (2179).

Al-Qurtubi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) only forbade making a man get up from where he is sitting because, if someone reaches a seat first, it is his, until he gets up voluntarily, after having fulfilled the purpose for which he was sitting there. It is as if he takes possession of the usage of that place, so it is not permissible for anyone to come between him and what he owns [temporarily].

Based on that, this prohibition may be understood in accordance with the apparent meaning, which is that it is haraam. It was also said that it is to be understood as meaning that it is makrooh (disliked), but the former is more likely to be correct.

End quote from al-Mufhim (5/509).

Ibn Abi Jamrah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

This applies specifically to places that it is permissible for people to enter and sit in them, either for all people in general, such as mosques, courts and circles of knowledge…

Or it may apply in private spaces, such as when a man invites specific people to his house for a wedding feast or other occasions that are permitted according to Islamic teachings. In these gatherings, whoever sits in a place should not be made to move so that someone else may sit there.

With regard to everything that is permissible, people are all equal, both those of high standing and those of lowly standing. So whoever reaches something first is entitled to it, and the one who is entitled to something on the basis of Islamic teachings, if anything of it is taken away in an unlawful manner that is contrary to Islamic teachings, it has been usurped, and usurping is haraam according to scholarly consensus…

End quote from Nahjat an-Nufoos (4/194).

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade that because it is a transgression against one’s brother.

One of the things that we learn from this hadith is that it is haraam to make a man get up from his seat so that one may sit in it. The reason for that is that in principle, saying that one should not do something means that it is prohibited (haraam). The fact that it is prohibited is supported by the fact that it is a transgression against another person, and the basic principle regarding transgression against others is that it is haraam.

Another thing that we learn from this hadith is that a man has more right to his seat so long as his need for it has not come to an end, so he should not be asked to leave it. That includes his place in the mosque, his place in the study circle, his place in a marketplace, his place in any location. He has more right to it so long as he has not left it…

End quote from Sharh Buloogh al-Maraam (6/252-253).

Conclusion: Whoever makes someone get up from a permissible place that he reached first is wronging him, and he should ask him to forgive him and not expose himself to retaliation on the Day of Resurrection when the issue will be settled with hasanaat (good deeds) and sayyi’aat (bad deeds).

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever has wronged his brother, let him seek his forgiveness, for there [in the hereafter] there will be no dinar and no dirham, and before some of his hasanaat (good deeds) will be taken and given to his brother and if he has no hasanaat to his credit, then some of his brother’s sayyi’aat (bad deeds) will be taken and thrown onto him.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6534).

And Allah knows best.
In summary, "We have not come across any hadith which says that whoever makes someone get up from his seat will be deprived of his seat in Paradise! But whoever makes someone get up from a permissible place that he reached first is wronging him, and he should ask him to forgive him and not expose himself to retaliation on the Day of Resurrection when the issue will be settled with hasanaat (good deeds) and sayyi’aat (bad deeds)."

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/332040/ruling-on-making-someone-get-up-from-his-seat

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by osamz007: 8:27am On Nov 20, 2020
UNA WELCOME OO. EARLY FRIDAY LIKE THIS

LET ME QUICKLY GET UP FOR IMAM TO SEAT

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:39am On Nov 20, 2020
You see, if you collect a kettle from a kid thinking it is not compulsory for him to pray Solah but for you it is compulsory then you have cheated that kid.

It is appropriate younger people respect and treat elders with honor! But being an elder doesn't mean you should cheat them.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Abboki: 9:22am On Nov 20, 2020
Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Abboki: 9:23am On Nov 20, 2020
cheesy

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Joshmanuel10(m): 9:23am On Nov 20, 2020
grin
osamz007:
UNA WELCOME OO. EARLY FRIDAY LIKE THIS

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Oluwasaeon(m): 9:23am On Nov 20, 2020
Na every thing get ruling?

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Subzero047: 9:24am On Nov 20, 2020
I thought this was fake grin grin grin

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Joshmanuel10(m): 9:24am On Nov 20, 2020
Rashduct4luv:
You see, if you collect a kettle from a kid thinking it is not compulsory for him to pray Solah but for you it is compulsory then you have cheated that kid.

It is appropriate younger people respect and treat elders with honor! But being an elder doesn't mean you should cheat them.
I love your last sentence

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Jabioro: 9:30am On Nov 20, 2020
Friday here we come with ruling from the depth of violence minds..

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Egein(m): 9:30am On Nov 20, 2020
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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by islamicpenis: 9:37am On Nov 20, 2020
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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by skealoo: 9:38am On Nov 20, 2020
Oluwasaeon:
Na every thing get ruling?
....Yes , even in your religion there is a ruling for EVERYTHING, its unfortunate you dont know. not your fault though.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Akshow: 9:54am On Nov 20, 2020
Orishirishi. Ruling on getting up from seat. Seriously?

Poster, pray tell us, what is the ruling on marrying underage girls?

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by marvin906(m): 9:58am On Nov 20, 2020
Wait this is a ruling...
I swear I would to see the peeps that sits down to write these rulings...
Really like to know the kind of highness they use before writing all these

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by ggood: 10:03am On Nov 20, 2020
Islam is a terrorist religion if you like believe it or not today is Friday come to Gusau and see how they will block road from 1pm as a Christian you don't have a say

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Officialhorlah(m): 10:03am On Nov 20, 2020
Masha Allah
Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by adams123: 10:04am On Nov 20, 2020
Oluwasaeon:
Na every thing get ruling?



Yes, because ISLAM is a religion and a total way of life. It covers all sphere of human activities with relation to other beings.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by thaoriginator: 10:05am On Nov 20, 2020
osamz007:
UNA WELCOME OO. EARLY FRIDAY LIKE THIS
idiot! grin

Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by DryMouth: 10:08am On Nov 20, 2020
Which kian RULING be dis one again??

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by skealoo: 10:13am On Nov 20, 2020
Akshow:
Orishirishi. Ruling on getting up from seat. Seriously?

Poster, pray tell us, what is the ruling on marrying underage girls?
....Acquire knowledge even if it takes you as far as China... My brother learn b4 you start making comments.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Akshow: 10:17am On Nov 20, 2020
skealoo:
....Acquire knowledge even if it takes you as far as China... My brother learn b4 you start making comments.
Acquire scientific logical verifiable knowledge mallam not this hogwash. You think a book written thousands of years ago by some arab who knew next to nothing about how the world operates is a valid moral compass in 2021?

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by ThinkSmarter: 10:21am On Nov 20, 2020
Yahweh, elohim, jehovah or Allah is a deity created by human conciousness.
Except what u refer to as god are the esence of life like sun, air, water, food , soil .
God doesn't exist.
Who created god?
How did he come into existence?

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Friend22(m): 10:46am On Nov 20, 2020
DryMouth:
Which kian RULING be dis one again??

Yes.
Islam is a complete package that's why it is the final and last testament everyone should embrace.

There's ruling on how to use the restroom,sexual inter course just name it.
It's the ultimate guide.
And we say,we are damn proud of this.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Friend22(m): 10:50am On Nov 20, 2020
ThinkSmarter:
Yahweh, elohim, jehovah or Allah is a deity created by human conciousness.
Except what u refer to as god are the esence of life like sun, air, water, food , soil .
God doesn't exist.
Who created god?
How did he come into existence?

This wannabe atheist will always trying to sound confusing.
Even in your atheism you will still be confused if asked certain questions yet you want to take on Islam.
Wrong place!

Who created God?

Is like asking,if butter,oil,yeats,sugar and water are used for baking bread.
That is,a baker bakes bread,then who baked the baker?
Answer that?!

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by womenareapes: 10:51am On Nov 20, 2020
ThinkSmarter:
Yahweh, elohim, jehovah or Allah is a deity created by human conciousness.
Except what u refer to as god are the esence of life like sun, air, water, food , soil .
God doesn't exist.
Who created god?
How did he come into existence?
you should be asking yourself how did you come into existence! the fundamental question of science that haven't been solved yet!

well! give your life to Christ Jesus and you will understand!

pls don't go with this terrorist religion who loves the word Beheading!

that particular word give them orgasm

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by TruthHurts1(m): 10:54am On Nov 20, 2020
So people don't have brains or minds and need rulings before they can carry out even the simplest of duties? What is so complex about seating arrangements that they require rulings?

adams123:




Yes, because ISLAM is a religion and a total way of life. It covers all sphere of human activities with relation to other beings.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Friend22(m): 10:54am On Nov 20, 2020
Akshow:

Acquire scientific logical verifiable knowledge mallam not this hogwash. You think a book written thousands of years ago by some arab who knew next to nothing about how the world operates is a valid moral compass in 2021?

Knowing some basic concepts of science as it should does not mean you are not very ignorant about other fields of science.

Mind you, Qur'an is not a book of science.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Friend22(m): 10:58am On Nov 20, 2020
ggood:
Islam is a terrorist religion if you like believe it or not today is Friday come to Gusau and see how they will block road from 1pm as a Christian you don't have a say

Blocking the road is not right according to Islamic ethics except such road are hardly trodden or alternate routes are available, but if nothing of such is there then they are oppressing other road users who aren't Muslim and this is not Islaamic from what I understand.

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Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by Friend22(m): 10:59am On Nov 20, 2020
TruthHurts1:
So people don't have brains or minds and need rulings before they can carry out even the simplest of duties? What is so complex about seating arrangements that they require rulings?

Oga,simply ask questions don't just assume.
Assumption is far worst than anger.
Re: Ruling On Making Someone Get Up From His Seat by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:12am On Nov 20, 2020
agbako ni boy lukgaf yi se..
if you love yourself.. stay away from his thread..
he's absolutely no nothing
let me get the HADITH

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