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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by FSBoperator: 1:57pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:


Again i ask you- Why did WIke's candidate not win the chief minority whip in the current house of reps?

I can see you are just wailing over Wike.

You think Wike will win in the coming PDP convention? O boy go sleep abeg.

You want igbos to cluster in PDP only? Thats bad politics. we have to spread and we dont need your Wike support.

Wike has been the one seeking for our support so deal with it


Wike is 100 times a politician than all your Abuja contractors representing you combined.


Watch and see.


This combo Tambuwal Wike 2023.



Judases
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Vistra40: 2:06pm On Nov 27, 2020
Yenefer:
Am a huge fan of individual performance of a candidate no matter the region. First of all, our leaders have failed us. If a good leader from even the minority is fit and capable to be president, I'd vote him rather than my Hausa or Igbo brother i do not know his achievements. Negotiations must be done nation wide not just the North and in the spirit of nationhood not ethnicity. Everyone that calls himself a Nigerian be it Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba or Igbo deserves to be served to the fullest. But beware of bad strings. God bless us All

Young lady, this comment is unusually you
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Vistra40: 2:11pm On Nov 27, 2020
Arrewa:
The East should forget about presidency for now!

They picked up a fight with the wrong side.

The north has the power and the capacity to decide who rules the country!

Sokoto and Kano state alone equals the whole of the East.

Oga, Obasanjo, Yaradua and Goodluck have won elections in this country without the north east and north west. It is not a supremacy battle. Buhari won because he aligned with the SW. Nobody can win presidency up north without the south and in the south without the north.

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by pazienza(m): 2:12pm On Nov 27, 2020
Is there anything like SS?
Ijaw is the heart and soul of SS , that's why GEJ went far.

Wike is a little man from an ethnic group made up of just 3 LGAs. The little power he had in Rivers state, he used it to channel all development in his small Ikwerre , leaving the rest to decay while having the guts to come out on national TV to tell them NTORR! grin

Wike will not get block vote from SS. It would be all ethnic groups there for themselves.

PDP will lose if it presents Wike as VP.
Unless APC presents a non Northern candidate. That's only how PDP with Wike as VP and a Northern president will win.

I wonder why any serious politician will have Wike as VP when it would automatically translate to not getting a single Igbo vote, in a tightly contested election 2023 is shaping up to be, that's like committing political suicide. grin

Surely PDP and its handlers should know better.

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nwadiuto247: 2:18pm On Nov 27, 2020
FSBoperator:



Wike is 100 times a politician than all your Abuja contractors representing you combined.


Watch and see.


This combo Tambuwal Wike 2023.



Judases

Its funny how you think that presidential election is like your local Rivers state politics where Wike decides what happens.

You dont expect a major tribe to cluster in one party, it doesnt work that way.


Is Yoruba or Hausa clustered in APC? They are all balanced in PDP and APC while Igbos clustered in PDP. It is not good for a major tribe. This is not like a tiny Ikwerre pls.

Igbos are spreading out just like Yoruba and Hausa, they will not cluster in only one party again. Thats the way to play a good politics.

Politics is not only about getting the presidency
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Vistra40: 2:18pm On Nov 27, 2020
Arrewa:
we want a united south bro.

You are free to unite against the north to test your political capacity.

Even the west know how politically weak the East is!

The votes coming from Sokoto and Kano alone equal the whole of the East.

Have you also forgotten that Obasanjo won the presidency without the SW? It is not about weakness. If you understand electoral spread, you would know that a candidate must win at least 4 geopolitical zones with a spread of two thirds majority of states across the different zones. Go and check previous elections before 2015 and you will see this trend. No one can actually know the origin of voters outside the SE if demographics is not properly broken down like it is done in America. Let every candidate go to the field and compete and whoever wins, let others support. Simple

Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by FSBoperator: 2:22pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:


Its funny how you think that presidential election is like your local Rivers state politics where Wike decides what happens.

You dont expect a major tribe to cluster in one party, it doesnt work that way.


Is Yoruba or Hausa clustered in APC? They are all balanced in PDP and APC while Igbos clustered in PDP. It is not good for a major tribe. This is not like a tiny Ikwerre pls.

Igbos are spreading out just like Yoruba and Hausa, they will not cluster in only party again. Thats the way to play a good politics.

Politics is not only about getting the presidency


You have exposed yourselves

No one will take you seriously again.

Let us see the Igbo vp.

Note,: you did not dispute the Igbo vp argument because you know the north is baiting your useless politicians with fake presidency which they know is not feasible .


Already all you Abuja contractors are queing up to be VP in the same APC you castigated for 6ys now.


You see how una just dey fool una selves?
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by amazingspiderma: 2:34pm On Nov 27, 2020
There is no point trying to force the subject of presidency into people's throat.

The lessons of the past two tenures are evident in itself.

There is a new block of power, it is called the voice of the youth. They will play a huge role in deciding the next president of this nation.

The protest showed unity, and during the next election, that unity will be rekindled again.

The youth will finally have their say in the next election. Power belongs to the people, those in positions are only serving time.

They are working hard to frame people for the protest, but the end game is to control the choices of the youth come 2023.

The election will come, and we shall remind them of how they kept food stuff in Warehouses from a hungry population. Now we found out just heartless these people can be. We shall speak again about the suffering, unemployment, unjustified dead, insecurity etc which they have profited from.

The youth will have their say, because their future is at stake. Whatever rearrangement or allignment going on will meet a resistance. The youth are the Social media generation, they never forget.

They are all over the nation in the six geopolitical zones. Their time will come, to speak, their voices will be heard, because now know better.

“When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives,”

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Manab: 2:49pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nels55:


We the south will decide the destiny of this nation not you, we have the support of great powers and one day will leave you and your poverty infested jihad North .


As from 2023 , I will pity you and your people... Better plan to move to Niger.
very funny god bless ur southern unity but north can do better without dey south.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by ThatFairGuy1: 3:02pm On Nov 27, 2020
Dartilo:
As for we the Niger delta if power is coming to the south is either the east or south south, we better support the North to win than a westerner...

Na dem start am,they supported bubu a northerner over a southerner jus for a vice position..

Let the game begin, don't com and preach to me you and I know that Judgement day Nigeria will still be a third world country
Thesame ijaw was voted for massively by Yorubas in 2011 but he relegated us in return.
Lemme ask you, if Atiku/Obi were to have won 2019 election, so you don't betrayed the southwesterners Right?

Common sense isn't common
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by holicupp(m): 3:05pm On Nov 27, 2020
politics is a game let the best player win
but I don't see how presidency helps common man in the street take the north for example they have been in the harem of power for years yet nothing to show forth as an achievement
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nobody: 3:30pm On Nov 27, 2020
Whether the SE screams from now till tomorrow Osinbanjo remains the anointed, with the formal emir of kano Sanusi as his VP. The formal emir can proceed to become President after osinbanjo's 8 years. As for PDP best option for them would be to field a northern candidate and a VP from South West. As a Yoruba man voting a SErner can only happen in an alternate universe. You can't gaslight people to vote for you.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by bjnice(m): 4:04pm On Nov 27, 2020
pazienza:


Yes they deliberately created it.
I predicted it when SW supported Buhari emergence in 2015.

If the SW will not support equity by keying into SE presidency, then there is no point asking the North to vacate the presidency for South in the name of equity.
They can as well continue. They seem to be doing a good job crashing Nigeria economically. Not a bad way to go from a Biafran perspective.

So yes! If SW cannot support equity by queuing behind demand for SE presidency, then the North MUST rule over Nigeria till infinity. Ndiigbo will be stupid to accept any other outcome other than the above.

SW should support SE presidency in which platform and on what ground? Certainly not the usual word 'equity, fairness and justice' which is not applicable in practical politics. No ethnic group should oblige to be your(Igbo) spokesperson if you guys are not ready to play politics of engagement. Even in South Africa, power was not handed to the Black majority on a platter of gold. But it came through constant and visible struggles for change in regime.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nobody: 4:40pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nels55:
Southern Nigerians are one of most ambitious and intelligent people in the world yet they're also one of the most stupid people on planet earth..


What is PDP and what is APC??

Is it not the right thing for the SW to stand for SE chance who will carry out southern agenda just like Buhari did..


Do you southerners care to look deeply to see how bad Buhari implanted the North to dominate the south , who is the North?

Which country in the world can stand behind northern Nigeria , we the south will decide the destiny of this country not any illiterate religious bigotic fool...
You don't at all have the tolerance to live & lead in a multicultural & multi religious nation like Nigeria. Obj was rejected by SW & accepted by almost the whole 19 Northern states for 8yrs, afta death of Yaradua GEJ became President and in 2011 only 4 Northern states where in opposition party and he got more than 25% in all Northern states. When GEJ was President almost all his appointments in MDAs go to either SS or SE except few political offices which are necessary, beside VP, SP & NSA which other meaningful appointment did North got in GEJ tenure. We endured, we acted rightly and proactively using polical sagacity North best known for and make an alliance that produced PMB as president. Stop deceiving urself with intelligence and education, there is no human specie in all life ramifications that we don't have in the North. You need to review history and reflect how wise, careful and intelligently we do our game. If u'll do justice to ur claims make a good research and u'll realise that PMB has done fairly well to SW in terms of project & appointments because most of PMB's project are in the SW. Religious and tribal game is done more in electioneering not aftermath of election. You always fail to understand North has 3 zones similar to south but when PMB make appointment u always rush to call him a Northerner not knowing that we've NC, NE, and NW but unlike south if anybody is appointed from Northern region we accept & appreciate it irrespective of the zone he's from but in the south u always start complaining he's Igbo not Yoruba or he's Yoruba not Igbo or Ishekiri bla bla..
Forget southern unity and face reality, North has found strong alliance in Yoruba and after all these mass defection at the end of it all the primary election voters from the North will keep their promise and give back what they're given in 2015 primary election endorsement that produced PMB.
Politics is beyond ethno-religious tactic, is much more than that. Ethno-religious tools are only used to bring down weak opponent.

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nwadiuto247: 4:43pm On Nov 27, 2020
FSBoperator:



You have exposed yourselves

No one will take you seriously again.

Let us see the Igbo vp.

Note,: you did not dispute the Igbo vp argument because you know the north is baiting your useless politicians with fake presidency which they know is not feasible .


Already all you Abuja contractors are queing up to be VP in the same APC you castigated for 6ys now.


You see how una just dey fool una selves?

you are just arguing like a kid. I have told you that politics is not only about president so why are you talking about VP again?

Go and read my opening post on this thread i am not talking Igbo being president as a must rather i said if APC chooses yoruba that we should all support the person instead of allowing a northerner to be president in pdp. Pls go to page 1 of this thread and read my post again and stop behaving like a kid and disgracing yourself

My major focus here is SOUTHERN PRESIDENT AND IGBO SPREADING TO OTHER PARTIES.

YOU ARE SUCH A USELESS PERSON TO DISPLAY ANGER THAT OUR POLITICIANS ARE SPREADING OUT.

Ike Ekweremadu was the deputy senate president for twelve good years and no single Igbo politician struggled the post with him till he finished in 2019 and you are here parading your useless lies that they are not united. Shame on you.

You want me to believe Wike's lies. You are disgrace to humanity if you want me to accept lies.

Igbos have every need and right to spread to other parties for good politicking. If you are angry about it you can go hit your head on the wall.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by AsiwajuNdigbo: 4:43pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:
Since Umahi and some other Igbo politicians started moving into the APC it appears our Yoruba brothers are afraid with the development hence we have noticed politicians like Fashola raising their fears under the cloak of the North respecting the zoning arrangement.

Those of them here who are talking as if there was no trace of APC in the SE before now are aware that Rochas was APC governor in Imo state till 2019 but they want to play hypocrisy. Ngige, Onum Ken Nnamani, Orji Kalu and some other Igbo senators and reps are there too. Why are they afraid of their so called 5%? ( A hypocritical statement they use to display their anger against the Igbos).

Meanwhile the north is celebrating Igbos who are defecting to the APC and urging more to join while some others are jittery. Presidency is not a do-or-die affair. Let the APC choose which of the southerners they will support.

The truth is that most Igbos were against APC before now but in politics there should be flexibility, which i think the Igbos are beginning understand now. If at the end of the day a Yoruba man becomes the APC candidate then all southerners should support the person, especially if the PDP presents a northerner.

With the recent comment of EL Rufai concerrning zoning, it appears the likes of EL Rufai may deliberately create a squabble between the Igbo and Yoruba in the APC which can distabilize the party and pave the way for a Northern candidate in the PDP to win. Lets play with wisdom in the south..

My Igbo brethren who have been saying that they will vote for a Northerner in PDP just to spite a Yoruba candidate in APC should understand that politics of bitterness does not pay. Even the GEJ you supported is dinning with APC now. Politics is not a do-or-die affair please.

A southern president (whether Yoruba or Igbo) will provide a more balanced and meaningful appointments than we have now. POLITICS OF BITTERNESS DOES NOT PAY.

Ol boy fight for your survival. Apc/Pdp do not have solution for survival. If they did North will not be under control of terrorism for almost 20yrs now.

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nwadiuto247: 4:55pm On Nov 27, 2020
TheLionofLasigi:
Whether the SE screams from now till tomorrow Osinbanjo remains the anointed, with the formal emir of kano Sanusi as his VP. The formal emir can proceed to become President after osinbanjo's 8 years. As for PDP best option for them would be to field a northern candidate and a VP from South West. As a Yoruba man voting a SErner can only happen in an alternate universe. You can't gaslight people to vote for you.

Go and check Buhari's votes in 2015 and deduct SW votes, you will see that he still won in terms of highest votes.

This means he could have won with any region so stop making noise.

Since they kept Osibanjo and Tinubu in the cooler what have you done?

However, Osibanjo is a good candidate for me too.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Blackking98(m): 4:58pm On Nov 27, 2020
Arrewa:
The East should forget about presidency for now!

They picked up a fight with the wrong side.

The north has the power and the capacity to decide who rules the country!

Sokoto and Kano state alone equals the whole of the East.
Quite delusional of you.
Buhari contested atleast 3 times before he finally won, why didn't he become president since with only core North votes? Be deciving your stupid self

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nwadiuto247: 5:02pm On Nov 27, 2020
AsiwajuNdigbo:


Ol boy fight for your survival. Apc/Pdp do not have solution for survival. If they did North will not be under control of terrorism for almost 20yrs now.

We are discussing for progress.. The north are the creators of their problem.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Blackking98(m): 5:07pm On Nov 27, 2020
IJOBA2:
WHATS YOUR POINT EXACTLY
You mind that mallam? Some of them impersonate poorly
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Blackking98(m): 5:10pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:


Again i ask you- Why did WIke's candidate not win the chief minority whip in the current house of reps?

I can see you are just wailing over Wike.

You think Wike will win in the coming PDP convention? O boy go sleep abeg.

You want igbos to cluster in PDP only? Thats bad politics. we have to spread and we dont need your Wike support.

Wike has been the one seeking for our support so deal with it
Isn't it obvious that the ediot is not a niger Deltan and is trying to impersonate us?

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Blackking98(m): 5:14pm On Nov 27, 2020
pazienza:
Is there anything like SS?
Ijaw is the heart and soul of SS , that's why GEJ went far.

Wike is a little man from an ethnic group made up of just 3 LGAs. The little power he had in Rivers state, he used it to channel all development in his small Ikwerre , leaving the rest to decay while having the guts to come out on national TV to tell them NTORR! grin

Wike will not get block vote from SS. It would be all ethnic groups there for themselves.

PDP will lose if it presents Wike as VP.
Unless APC presents a non Northern candidate. That's only how PDP with Wike as VP and a Northern president will win.

I wonder why any serious politician will have Wike as VP when it would automatically translate to not getting a single Igbo vote, in a tightly contested election 2023 is shaping up to be, that's like committing political suicide. grin

Surely PDP and its handlers should know better.
Yes there is something like SS.
However most of in the SS believe it is an Igbo man's turn to rule but most unlikely that we'll vote APC.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Maduawuchukwu(m): 6:08pm On Nov 27, 2020
It is ok and natural for some Igbo politicians to cross over to APC. That is politics. But castigating and trying to badmouth PDP which is the surest bet to an Igbo presidency is not wise. It reeks of emotional immaturity. If there is going to be an Igbo President or VP come 2023, it is likely to be from the PDP so let us all be wise in our utterances
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nwadiuto247: 6:16pm On Nov 27, 2020
Maduawuchukwu:
It is ok and natural for some Igbo politicians to cross over to APC. That is politics. But castigating and trying to badmouth PDP which is the surest bet to an Igbo presidency is not wise. It reeks of emotional immaturity. If there is going to be an Igbo President or VP come 2023, it is likely to be from the PDP so let us all be wise in our utterances

PDP and APC are the same so i am not castigating PDP.

My point is that Igbo as a major tribe should not cluster in only one party.

Its good to spread out for better politicking just like Hausa and Yoruba.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nwadiuto247: 6:17pm On Nov 27, 2020
Blackking98:

Isn't it obvious that the ediot is not a niger Deltan and is trying to impersonate us?

You may be right though..
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by SEGLIZ: 6:29pm On Nov 27, 2020
Yenefer:
Am a huge fan of individual performance of a candidate no matter the region. First of all, our leaders have failed us. If a good leader from even the minority is fit and capable to be president, I'd vote him rather than my Hausa or Igbo brother i do not know his achievements. Negotiations must be done nation wide not just the North and in the spirit of nationhood not ethnicity. Everyone that calls himself a Nigerian be it Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba or Igbo deserves to be served to the fullest. But beware of bad strings. God bless us All

@Yenefer you don't seize to amaze me. a good one here though we need good leaders not ethnic or tribal leaders but individual that have the love of the nation at heart.
we need someone that would reconcile the nation, lead the entire nation on the part of a healing process bringing about the the true oneness that we need.
not that leader that would be enforced on us just to pacify an particular aggrieved region, ethnic groups or tribe.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Paretomaster1(m): 6:29pm On Nov 27, 2020
Badonasty:
lol...so igbos have finally accepted APC...APC is no longer Fulani party...

They haven't start yet, enu ti igbin won fi bu osha...

They will have to start from politics 101..

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Maduawuchukwu(m): 6:38pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:


PDP and APC are the same so i am not castigating PDP.

My point is that Igbo as a major tribe should not cluster in only one party.

Its good to spread out for better politicking just like Hausa and Yoruba.

At this point in time, Ndigbo going to APC should be a tool for bargaining with the PDP hierarchy. Going to APC as a serious strategy should have been done before 2019 at least. Right now, APC is on the decline and will likely lose to PDP in 2023 therefore, most of our heavy weights should remain in PDP so that we do not lose out in PDP which we have worked hard for and lose out in APC in which we are not very strong.

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Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by NoIgboSoundTueh: 7:22pm On Nov 27, 2020
pazienza:


Yes they deliberately created it.
I predicted it when SW supported Buhari emergence in 2015.

If the SW will not support equity by keying into SE presidency, then there is no point asking the North to vacate the presidency for South in the name of equity.
They can as well continue. They seem to be doing a good job crashing Nigeria economically. Not a bad way to go from a Biafran perspective.

So yes! If SW cannot support equity by queuing behind demand for SE presidency, then the North MUST rule over Nigeria till infinity. Ndiigbo will be stupid to accept any other outcome other than the above.
Why are you reasoning like a toddler?
The highest office in the country is attractive to everybody from every tribe.
Osinbajo, Tinubu, Atiku, Amaechi, Elrufai and several other tribes want to occupy the highest position in the country.
All these people should just sit back for Igbos
If you want Igbo to be the president they will sweat for it.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Nobody: 7:38pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:


Go and check Buhari's votes in 2015 and deduct SW votes, you will see that he still won in terms of highest votes.

This means he could have won with any region so stop making noise.

Since they kept Osibanjo and Tinubu in the cooler what have you done?

However, Osibanjo is a good candidate for me too.

Unknownly to most people, what South West brings to the table is much more than votes, it's why a buhari only won after a partnership with the south west.

And as for the sidelining of tinubu and osinbanjo, it's politics, and reactionary attitudes don't solve issues, it's about the long game and the south west having an ear within the villa, indirectly or directly osinbanjo's position comes with benefits to the SW, and if they betray the agreement with the south west come 2023; it's all well and good, tinubu's boys should leave Abuja and restrategize, besides parthnerships with North and SE/SS is like oil and water, we all know how it ends.

Anyways, there's no good candidate...only restructuring.
Re: 2023; South East And South West Be Wise Now by Blackking98(m): 8:20pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nwadiuto247:


You may be right though..
It's easy to catch them. Quite unfortunate that people fall for their tricks

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