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Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by billante(m): 3:37pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
DC49: Like a range of how much would this setup cost? |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Utopian20(m): 3:44pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Why is no body talking about html, Css and javascript coding for the front end. ? Abi those are not good enough to build NL website? Please no yabbing I'm just a learner oh 2 Likes |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Utopian20(m): 3:46pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Bosses in the house I need someone to teach me php programming language |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by techstack: 3:55pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
adampedia: Yes I am a C# Javascript developer You can ask me anything |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by steve6: 4:00pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Nice thread. |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Arewaitech: 4:04pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
[quote author=DC49 post=96777395][/quote] Nothing else to say boss. You don win. |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by TyrellObi: 4:19pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
I just downloaded Colt Steele's [the new version for 2020] and Angela Yu's web development courses from udemy.com... Very soon, I'll be a professional web developer... I'm still learning frontend (I'm learning Bootstrap now)... I wish I could get a mentor that I'll learn from and be accountable to... Anyone?.. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by ibnlawal(m): 4:38pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Harrykn:Gracias seƱor 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Nobody: 4:40pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by cybertruss(m): 4:40pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
For me, I would not like to spend so much money on services I give out for free. So I will not like to maintain several virtual machine instance because I will have to pay for it after my trial is over and it will not be cheap. What I will do is get either a dedicated server or a vps. I will start with vps with KVM virtualization. I will do what is known as web server tweaking. For instance instead of apache I will use Ngix combined with other server technologies to minimize resource utilization because of bandwidth. There are ways of dividing traffic to different web servers in a single vps If I have a good team I will run multiple languages in the server. But if not I will maintain 1 language for the back end and front-end which could be either nodejs or php MySQL. Reason is that I am a tech freak and I always update my software to the latest stable technology. From experience, I have notice that one will run into problems using multiple technologies. Today php 8 is out you start an update. Before you finish bootstrap 5 will be out with lots of features, before you know what is happening another update is out. The list is endless. There is a high probability that the different back end you use can have important update with new features that will make your business better. If you use several technologies the volume of work will be extremely high and costly to maintain. The above techniques will reduce cost and at the same time enable me achieve my goal in the shortest time. Time is extremely important to me 7 Likes |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by kponkedenge(m): 4:41pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
DC49: Do you currently use VPN? |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Miyachi: 4:50pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
sarutobi: Just my thought. I think all these ideas are a bit overkill. The one I don't even understand is NoSQL as DB of choice. I'll go with Postgres. Any backend language will do (PHP, Go, Python, etc). I have a bias against the bloated nature of Nodejs apps - I wouldn't touch anything Js for backend with a 10-foot pole. Decoupled architecture? I'd prefer a monolith app, I'm not Amazon or Google. I think what needs a lot of change though isn't so much the technologies used but how NL works. I will chose to rank topics based on interest (upvotes?), comments too. A different frontend and backend will be the way to go if you would want to make it easier to develop for different platforms. I will rightfully make the backend RESTful. I'd prefer to rent a server than use AWS or Google, I think it'll be cheaper. KVM enabled virtualization, run everything on Docker. 3 Likes |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Ayilara1(m): 4:52pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Lols, my road still far gan oo. All they are discussing here looks like film to me. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by zigzagluv: 4:54pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
can you work on a dating website, which will have a traffic of 1million users a month, can u work as a full stack developer SilverG33k: |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by adesmarty: 5:18pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Topmaike007: I want to begin with python... I'm going for app development and not website |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Topmaike007(m): 6:16pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
adesmarty:then you're going to learn django along with it Django is also a framework of python |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by bankrich4real: 7:37pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Well, depending on your dexterity with the programming language u choose to stick with, this can be achieved. Personally, decoupling the frontend from the backend, using a restful backend to serve the API' s to the frontend. Django Rest Framework is my preferred choice in this regard, flexible, has modular and easily customizable architecture and very easy to get up with, while I have a natural bias for vuejs bcox of its ease of Integration, simplicity, reactivity and portability. I will consider Amazon S3 to serve the files, PostGres dB & Heroku hosting. With this set up I have an eye on performance and then making things reasonable in terms of cost and maintenance. However, it's very important to note that there's no "best programming language" to do this in my opinion. It's down to the individual developer, considering how comfortable he/she is with the languages in question and what needs to be achieved. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by introvertme: 8:30pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
sarutobi: Help me tell them. They think this one is a startup that has vc fund to waste. 2 Likes |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Fash20: 8:42pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Mrmourinho: Nah boss. |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by teepain: 8:42pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
TyrellObi: What areas do you need mentoring for? I need the clarity to know if I can provide the mentorship you need. |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Fash20: 8:45pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Aremson14: MERN stack i sight you sir 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by introvertme: 8:45pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
billante: Most of the things listed are hourly payment. You have to setup an alarm to monitor the services you use on Aws or Google cloud if not. Your bank account go hear am. If you don't have plenty of startup capital and users(to justify why you are using cloud services) use a VPS or shared hosting. Iroko TV spends over $10,000 a month on Aws for their streaming service, they don't have the users nairaland has. When they have the users nairaland has, they will take loan to pay the fees like Netflix. Lol. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by ibuildstuff(m): 8:58pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
sarutobi:I like ur comment many times o, because I was like why can't someone use normal php, JavaScript hosted on a dedicated server. Instead of going through all does stress mentioned above. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Silverman42(m): 9:10pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Why is no one mentioning PAAS (Platforms As Services) like Heroku and Digital Ocean App Platform for Hosting options. They help scale your backend without hassles 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by oyatmicah(m): 9:28pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Just learn PHP and Laravel as a framework and all your backend problem is solved, all these big grammer for nairaland website fa. Or if you want to work smart, just clone the app and redesign. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Silverman42(m): 9:35pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
oyatmicah:. Baba no like stress. 4 Likes |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by bukxy: 9:59pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Silverman42:abi oo performance and efficient result is what matters . |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by cixak95212: 12:18am On Dec 08, 2020 |
AZeD1: I dont want to start going into a battle of microservices vs monolith, but your analogy is flawed. I hope you understand how legacy codes work, and if a coy has been running a monolith for a long time, it's often a very difficult task to switch. AWS has 50% of their api documentation in XML and the rest in newer sdks . . does it mean, we should use XML these days? For that fact that 1 - 10 companies switched from microservices to monolith, doesnt make it better, as there are x10 that number that switched from monolith to microservices. You're only paying attention via one-lane to favour ur argument. Microservices were created to solved problems that came with monolith especially during scaling and not the other way around. The newer guy is often better although it comes at a cost which is not limited to expensive cost of operations. Secondly Nosql has passed the era of "unstructured data only". Knock yourself out https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/core/data-model-design p.s.; NGINX cannot handle 500k request, except you configure a cluster. You're defaulted to under 100k out of the box. What is a cluster? Microservice-biased or monolith-biased, lol hahaha . The thing i say I say from firsthand experience and not online blogs. 1 Like |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by AZeD1(m): 12:45am On Dec 08, 2020 |
cixak95212: 1) You do know that cluster has nothing to do with architecture right? You can have a cluster of monoliths right... 2) I'm pretty sure nairaland as is today is a monolith and it works very well. |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by Finalfantasy: 1:35am On Dec 08, 2020 |
C# here |
Re: Backend Software Engineers, Let's Talk About System Design by cixak95212: 2:22am On Dec 08, 2020 |
AZeD1: You get the idea now? 2 Likes |
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