Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

I'm also a believer in Christianity but your question shows you DO NOT STUDY.... you just read and wonder or think.... pls get a Greek/Hebrew dictionary and you will know that the bible was written and translated from more than one ancient language

blackpanthar:


I'm also a believer in Christianity but your question shows you DO NOT STUDY.... you just read and wonder or think.... pls get a Greek/Hebrew dictionary and you will know that the bible was written and translated from more than one ancient language

Pray tell... What has your retort to do with any of what the @OP In fact stated or asked?

Kobojunkie:
Pray tell... What has your retort to do with any of what the @OP In fact stated or asked?

If you understood what I said, then you would know that ONE WORD in the new testament(which was originally written in GREEK) would mean something totally different in the OLD TESTAMENT(which was originally written in HEBREW)

So when you STUDY knowing this, you would PROBE deeper to know if DAY in GENESIS was the same translation meaning DAY in 2 Peter, before becoming confused and thinking the bible is confusing.... IT IS NOT CONFUSING.... and many people who even preach it are in error because they are understanding it solely from ENGLISH LANGUAGE which was not the original scripted language in which it was written or even spoken.


I hope it is clear.
Op go and study- the same bible says STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED.... dont come here and say you have studied but you came to NL for clarity.... you have access to the same internet where several concordance and bible dictionaries exist... so coming here is just mental laziness. Kindly study and meet those in your church and you will get the answers you seek.

I have already told you what to do... GET A GREEK and HEBREW BIBLE CONCORDANCE and you will understand many more things there. Else this will not be the only confusion you will have.

blackpanthar:


If you understood what I said, then you would know that ONE WORD in the new testament(which was originally written in GREEK) would mean something totally different in the OLD TESTAMENT(which was originally written in HEBREW)

So when you STUDY knowing this, you would PROBE deeper to know if DAY in GENESIS was the same translation meaning DAY in 2 Peter, before becoming confused and thinking the bible is confusing.... IT IS NOT CONFUSING.... and many people who even preach it are in error because they are understanding it solely from ENGLISH LANGUAGE which was not the original scripted language in which it was written or even spoken.


I hope it is clear.
Op go and study- the same bible says STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED.... dont come here and say you have studied but you came to NL for clarity.... you have access to the same internet where several concordance and bible dictionaries exist... so coming here is just mental laziness. Kindly study and meet those in your church and you will get the answers you seek.

I have already told you what to do... GET A GREEK and HEBREW BIBLE CONCORDANCE and you will understand many more things there. Else this will not be the only confusion you will have.

All of what you have said so far still means nothing and does not even begin to address my question or any of what the @OP stated.
Read again, this time making certain your ego is properly tucked away where it rightly belongs...

Kobojunkie:
Pray tell... What has your retort to do with any of what the @OP In fact stated or asked?

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

What do you mean by the bolded?

Are you truly saved or just a church-goer because being a Christian without being saved means nothing in truth. It's just an inconsequential title.

If you're not saved, marvel not that I say unto you that you must be saved, otherwise it would be hard for you to be able to understand many sayings of the Bible as it takes God to reveal the mysteries of His Word to man. And when you're not saved, you can hardly be given that knowledge by God.

To answer your question, the saying of Peter of "a thousand years" doesn't mean that it took God six thousand years to create heaven and Earth, because the thousand years Peter gave was in the perspective of man, and so also the six days which God was said to have used during His Creation in the beginning. It is the same day and night that's used to measure a day in man perspective that was used to measure the amount of days God used during His creation in the beginning.

But a day in God's sight is not measured by day and night, because God doesn't use that measure for Himself except in the respect of man and His creation. God was before there was the first day and night.

Something else you must know about the Bible is that is doesn't only contain the Word of God, but also those of men and the devil, and any genuine contradiction in it had to do with that.

But assumed contradictions as this which you just brought up which are not real, are due to the lack of the right interpretation or revelation of that saying.

God bless.

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

Wow, Pastors have destroyed the children! Did not your pastor teach you that it is comparison of God's Day to man's day?

Like time differences between countries eg Nigeria - Sweden, in these case God is So Faaar from us that it is Years Difference, approximately about 2Yrs,11 months Difference!

O my children, brave Nephilim, When shall you learn the truth? Adonai Yahweh nor all his angels Have not one chain's link to bind you Save those that you would forge And put about yourself with full will. No fire is there into which they would cast you Save that which your minds would kindle. They have no authority over man Save that man would, deluded, kneel And acknowledge such illusion of power With which the Elohim would beguile. Why are you led again and again Into that same trap which snared those that came before? What words are there for me to speak By which you would realise this And take care against such deceits?

God created us in his image, this means we can make use of our brains to figure out riddles and solve them, unlike animals that were created with instinct we can reason with one another as we have the ability to speak (communicate)

That Bible verse didn't literally mean one day is the exact equivalent of one thousand years, it simply means God doesn't work with our own time. We are eager to get things done so we keep looking at the clock because we know we don't have all the time we need, but God is not subjected to timing. So when you are thinking of the time spent on something God doesn't think of the time you're spending he is after the outcome.
You can see this in his way of dealing with the Issue raised in the garden of Eden, the bid issue was
Whose right is it to decide what is good or bad?

or you can also put it this way

Who supposed to set the standards God or man?

Satan insinuated that since mankind has working brains and intelligent they can successfully set their own standards they don't need God to do that for them! Genesis 3:1-5

Most people often think why would God allow Satan to get away with such a thing? Why couldn't he just destroy Satan instantly and end it all that day?

God allowed time to pass that event happened almost 6,000 years ago, with what outcome?

Well the whole world is crying now and complaining not because some aliens came to interfere with the standards set by humans, but we keep making life unbearable for ourselves with the standards we are setting for ourselves! Ecclesiastes 4:1, 8:9

So it's because God is not subjected to timing that's why he could be that patient {2Peter 3:9} allow us try all the forms of government we can think of for us to see that we can't set perfect standards within ourselves! Jeremiah 10:23

That's the import of 2Peter 3:8 Sir, may you have PEACE!

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

anyhow you want to calculate it, the truth is what you have observed that a thousand years is like one day before God and that 6 days of creation might be 6000 years or more. Meaning, Evolution and is real

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

Hi there.

By definition, a Christian is a believer in Jesus Christ, God and Man Who died for our sins so that we can be reconciled to God. Since this Jesus is only revealed to us through the words of the Bible, a Christian is of necessity a believer in the Bible. This means that the Christian takes the words of the Bible to be true even when it is difficult to see how they can be. That is, the attitude of the Christian is that the Bible cannot contradict itself or contradict anything that is actually true and real. So, if anything appears to be contradictory within the Bible, the Christian does not accuse the Bible of being untrue or impure somehow; rather the Christian assumes that there is something that they are failing to understand in the Bible. Likewise, if anything in material reality appears to contradict the Bible, the Christian assumes that there is something wrong in his or her perception of material reality or in his or her understanding of the Bible. The Christian never places the blame on the Bible. To do so is to pretend that God can lie or be mistaken. If a believer can risk believing that, then the very foundation of his or her faith is already destroyed.

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; 6 in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight. 7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil.
Proverbs 3:5-7 (NIV)

21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.
Isaiah 5:21 (NIV)

To your question, I think that a normal working brain would quickly see that there is no contradiction between the claims in Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:11 and the claims in Psalm 90:4 or 2 Peter 3:8. The latter does not say that God did not create the heavens and the earth in six days. In fact, the statement does not make any claims about creation at all. The former passages do not say that God does not see a day as a thousand years or a thousand years as one day. They only variously claim and describe how God created the physical universe in six days. The relationship between these systems is not one of equality or inequality. They are just saying different things. Different things are not by definition contradictory things. That A is not the same as B does not perforce mean that B is the opposite or negation of A. This is just common sense.

It can certainly be wondered if Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8 are saying that Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:11 were using "days" to mean "millennia." That would be a reasonable question to ask, and you did ask it, so you did the right thing. The short answer to that, however, is NO.

On the one hand, it should be obvious that God exists on a much higher plane of reality than we do (consider Isaiah 55:8-9, for example). His existence is outside the confines of time. That is, He is not limited or restrained by time. He created time and space and energy and matter. These things do not affect His existence at all. He does not need them. He created them for us. So, obviously for Him the passage of time makes no difference. Whether a day passes or a thousand years go by, it is all the same to Him. We are the ones who are worn down by the passage of time. This is one part of the meaning of the words of Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8.

On the other hand, as the context of 2 Peter 3:8 makes clear, we are being told that there is a structured timetable on which human history is running. From the human perspective, this may not seem obvious, so skeptics who have no respect for God will rant foolishly about how God promises a Coming that never arrives while all things continue to progress as they always have. But from God's Perspective - and also from that of any obedient believer who learns to observe creation through the lens of biblical teachings - there is a clear structure of the times that the human race has lived through from the beginning until now. Times change in very defined ways, from the spiritual perspective. These changes or shifts occur at intervals just like days are marked off at intervals. These intervals are actually millennia. Each millennium of human history is essentially like a day in the heavenly calendar. So, beginning from Adam's creation, where humans would be counting a thousand years and more, Heaven is counting days.

As you should be able to see from that explanation, human history is following a structured plan that God made and defined by successions of millennia. Each millennium that has passed, is passing, or is yet to come to pass is defined by some specific set of realities that have been predetermined by God Himself, just as each day is defined by the evening and the morning. This is where we can find a connection to Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:11. Just as God created the heavens and the earth with everything in them in six days and rested on the seventh, human history is actually structured to last seven millennia. The seventh millennia is also a "day of rest" or a "Sabbath" (Hebrews 4:1-6). This is the period when Jesus Christ will be ruling over the whole world after defeating Satan and his Antichrist at Armageddon upon His Return and the Resurrection of the Church to reign with Him (Revelation 19:19-20:4). Prior to that time, there are six thousand years of human history defined severally by the spiritual realities that obtain in each successive millennium.

In broad sweeps, the first two thousand years is called the Age of the Gentiles, because during that time the nation of Israel did not exist. The next two thousand years is called the Age of Israel, because obviously this was the time when God used Israel as a nation as His Means of communicating and preserving His Truth to the rest of the world. The next two thousand years is called the Age of the Church or the Church Age, because this is the time when the distinction between Israel and the Gentiles is removed. As already stated, this last Age is followed by the Millennium, the Thousand Years of Christ's reign over the whole Earth. At the end of this last Millennium, the whole universe will be destroyed and a new one created to replace it thus commencing the "ages of the ages" or eternity. This is what Jesus Himself will do, which is why Isaiah 9:6 calls Him the "Father of Eternity" (note, not Eternal/Everlasting Father, as several translations of the Bible erroneously render that title).

Each of these Ages is defined by the manner in which God chose to present His Truth to and preserve it for humanity. They represent even smaller blocks of time that are defined by the specific tests that the Human Race had/have/will have to face regarding that Truth. That is, the Gentile Age is divided into the Antediluvian Age and the Division of the Nations, for example. During this time, God provided His Truth through heads of families, such as Adam, Lamech (Genesis 3:23-24; cf. 3:15), Enoch (Jude 1:14-15), and Noah. These were not Jews. They were Gentile patriarchs whose responsibility was both to pass down the truths about God that their own fathers had taught them (as in the case of Lamech, Cain's son above, although we have no reason to think that either he or his father was a believer) and to teach any new truths that God communicated to them (as in the case of Adam, Enoch, and Noah most notably who were all believers and prophets, compare also Genesis 18:19). The Antediluvian period was the spiritual first half of this era when the test for human hearts was whether they would submit to and follow the Lord in the difficulties of a world that was no longer as easy to live in as it was in Eden prior to Adam's fall from grace (compare Noah's father's words in Genesis 5:29). The spiritually reckoned second half was the period of the Division of the Nations when God scattered the people of the earth by giving them different languages. The test was whether mankind would submit to and retain faith in God under the terrible attacks of Satan upon, first, the purity of the human race (the issue of the Nephilim) and, second, the individual freedom of choice that we each have (the matter of the tower of Babel). Each Age was structured in a similar way.

As mentioned earlier, this has a direct comparison to the seven days of creation. In fact, God used seven days to re-create the heavens and the earth specifically to demonstrate to us what our subsequent seven-thousand-year history will be like. His work in each of those days is a direct symbol or parable for the spiritual occurrences of each corresponding millennium. Please understand: This does not mean that the seven days were not literal days. They most certainly were. But even in their literality these days were also representations of other less apparent things. So, for example, as Adam and Eve are created on the sixth day so that they could rule over a perfect earth on the seventh day, thus the Lord Jesus and His Bride the Church will be brought together in everlasting matrimony to rule over a renewed earth for a thousand years and then continue in perfect rulership over a perfect universe forever. So, one thing is analogous to the other without losing any of its literality.

In short, there is no contradiction here. Rather there is a prime opportunity to learn even more of what the Bible has to teach, if we are humble enough to simply ask for explanations rather than getting up on our high horse and pretending that we are smarter than God. Everything written in the Bible tests our hearts for humility. We can fail that test quite easily, especially if we think that we are something special and God has a duty to answer to us. We are not and He doesn't. He will reveal Himself to the humble and lowly ones through the Bible we read and through the work of gifted and prepared pastor-teachers (gifted and prepared by God Himself through their own willingness to believe in Him, grow spiritually by submitting to another gifted and prepared pastor-teacher, and painstakingly acquiring the tools of pastor-teaching in order to do a good job for the Lord) to whom we willingly submit to learn the meanings of the things that we read in that Bible.

21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do. 22 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
Luke 10:21-22 (NIV)

30 Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked. 31 “How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
Acts 8:30-31 (NIV)

11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. 14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.
Ephesians 4:11-15 (NIV) (compare John 13:8,14)

7 Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct.
Hebrews 13:7 (NKJV)

Cheers.

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