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Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 12:46pm On Dec 20, 2020
"Marriage and children were expected of a Jewish man, then and now. If he hadn’t been married, that would have caused consternation to his family, possible scandal in the community, and the New Testament certainly would have commented on it—if for no other reason than to explain and defend Jesus’ unusual behavior. "

Isaiah 53:10 Says: Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.

'The Lost Gospel': The ancient manuscript that claims Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had children
What you are about to read is a detective story.

We have uncovered an ancient writing that is encrypted with a hidden meaning. In the process of decoding it, we’ll take you on a journey into the world of this mysterious text. What the Vatican feared—and Dan Brown only suspected—has come true. There is now written evidence that Jesus was married to Mary the Magdalene, and that they had children together.

More than this, based on the new evidence, we now know what the original Jesus movement looked like and the unexpected role sexuality played in it. We have even unraveled the politics behind the crucifixion, as well as the events and the people that took part in it.

Gathering dust in the British Library is a document that takes us into the missing years of Jesus’ life. Scholars believe that Jesus was born around 5 BC, and that he was crucified around 30AD.
But there is a huge gap in his biography. We know absolutely nothing about Jesus from the time he was eight days old (his circumcision, according to Jewish law), until he was in his early thirties. There is one exception. According to the Gospel of Luke (2:41–2:51), when he was twelve years old, Jesus traveled with his parents to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover.

That’s it. That’s all we have. Otherwise, thirty years of absolute silence.

Isn’t this incredible? Here is arguably the most influential individual in human history and we know nothing about him until after he starts his “ministry” (i.e., his public activism) at most three years before his crucifixion.

But the fact is that we simply have no information about Jesus’ early years—his upbringing, friends, schooling, or his interaction with family members. We have no knowledge of Jesus as a young adult. How did he gain access to the writings of the Hebrew Bible? Did the synagogue in Nazareth, a very small hamlet at the time, have scrolls of the Law and the Prophets? Who were his religious teachers?

How well versed was he in Hebrew, in addition to the Aramaic that we know he spoke? Did he speak Greek, the lingua franca of the Roman world? Jesus appears on the stage of history suddenly in the late 20s c.e. At this point, the mature Jesus announces the “Kingdom of God”—that is, the advent of a qualitative transformation in human history, prophesied by the Hebrew Bible, in which justice will reign upon the earth and the worship of the one true God will be universal.

But what happened to Jesus before this sudden appearance? According to the document that we uncovered, sometime during this period he became engaged, got married, had sexual relations, and produced children. Before anyone gets his/her theological back up, keep in mind that we are not attacking anyone’s theology. We are reporting on a text. Theology must follow historical fact and not the other way around. Having said this, for the moment, we are not asserting that our text is historical fact. So far, we are merely stating that the Christian Bible tells us nothing about Jesus’ early years, and that we have discovered a text that claims that he was married and fathered children.

On a purely historical level, this really shouldn’t surprise us. Marriage and children were expected of a Jewish man, then and now. If he hadn’t been married, that would have caused consternation to his family, possible scandal in the community, and the New Testament certainly would have commented on it—if for no other reason than to explain and defend Jesus’ unusual behavior. But now we have a document that claims that he was indeed married and fathered children. Not only this, our document indicates that for some of his original followers, Jesus’ marriage was the most important aspect of their theology.

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/ancient-manuscript-proves-jesus-married-mary-magdalene-and-had-children-a6982836.html

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Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by johnhood(m): 12:59pm On Dec 20, 2020
1, 2, 3 action !!!
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Naijaarchive(m): 12:59pm On Dec 20, 2020
Hmmm
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Shawl001(m): 3:14pm On Dec 20, 2020
Jesus was simply with His parents, helping them with carpentry.
That's why, the Pharisees and The scribes, all knew Him as the Carpenter. Cos they've seen Him around do carpentry works for people.
And all of a sudden, He started His REAL WORK, so they were confused ...and they saw and judged Him in the flesh.

Nothing mysterious happened between those years, its not just the focus for us.

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Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 3:36pm On Dec 20, 2020
Shawl001:
Jesus was simply with His parents, helping them with carpentry.
That's why, the Pharisees and The scribes, all knew Him as the Carpenter. Cos they've seen Him around do carpentry works for people.
And all of a sudden, He started His REAL WORK, so they were confused ...and they saw and judged Him in the flesh.

Nothing mysterious happened between those years, its not just the focus for us.

Matthew 13:55 This was what they said:
"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

They did not call Jesus a capenter but the carpenter's son.
And at the age of 33 for a Jewish male at that time to still be with his parents will be very strange.

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Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Kobojunkie: 6:05pm On Dec 20, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
"Marriage and children were expected of a Jewish man, then and now. If he hadn’t been married, that would have caused consternation to his family, possible scandal in the community, and the New Testament certainly would have commented on it—if for no other reason than to explain and defend Jesus’ unusual behavior. "

Isaiah 53:10 Says: Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.

'The Lost Gospel': The ancient manuscript that claims Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had children
What you are about to read is a detective story.

We have uncovered an ancient writing that is encrypted with a hidden meaning. In the process of decoding it, we’ll take you on a journey into the world of this mysterious text. What the Vatican feared—and Dan Brown only suspected—has come true. There is now written evidence that Jesus was married to Mary the Magdalene, and that they had children together.

More than this, based on the new evidence, we now know what the original Jesus movement looked like and the unexpected role sexuality played in it. We have even unraveled the politics behind the crucifixion, as well as the events and the people that took part in it.

Gathering dust in the British Library is a document that takes us into the missing years of Jesus’ life. Scholars believe that Jesus was born around 5 BC, and that he was crucified around 30AD.
But there is a huge gap in his biography. We know absolutely nothing about Jesus from the time he was eight days old (his circumcision, according to Jewish law), until he was in his early thirties. There is one exception. According to the Gospel of Luke (2:41–2:51), when he was twelve years old, Jesus traveled with his parents to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover.

That’s it. That’s all we have. Otherwise, thirty years of absolute silence.

Isn’t this incredible? Here is arguably the most influential individual in human history and we know nothing about him until after he starts his “ministry” (i.e., his public activism) at most three years before his crucifixion.

But the fact is that we simply have no information about Jesus’ early years—his upbringing, friends, schooling, or his interaction with family members. We have no knowledge of Jesus as a young adult. How did he gain access to the writings of the Hebrew Bible? Did the synagogue in Nazareth, a very small hamlet at the time, have scrolls of the Law and the Prophets? Who were his religious teachers?

How well versed was he in Hebrew, in addition to the Aramaic that we know he spoke? Did he speak Greek, the lingua franca of the Roman world? Jesus appears on the stage of history suddenly in the late 20s c.e. At this point, the mature Jesus announces the “Kingdom of God”—that is, the advent of a qualitative transformation in human history, prophesied by the Hebrew Bible, in which justice will reign upon the earth and the worship of the one true God will be universal.

But what happened to Jesus before this sudden appearance? According to the document that we uncovered, sometime during this period he became engaged, got married, had sexual relations, and produced children. Before anyone gets his/her theological back up, keep in mind that we are not attacking anyone’s theology. We are reporting on a text. Theology must follow historical fact and not the other way around. Having said this, for the moment, we are not asserting that our text is historical fact. So far, we are merely stating that the Christian Bible tells us nothing about Jesus’ early years, and that we have discovered a text that claims that he was married and fathered children.

On a purely historical level, this really shouldn’t surprise us. Marriage and children were expected of a Jewish man, then and now. If he hadn’t been married, that would have caused consternation to his family, possible scandal in the community, and the New Testament certainly would have commented on it—if for no other reason than to explain and defend Jesus’ unusual behavior. But now we have a document that claims that he was indeed married and fathered children. Not only this, our document indicates that for some of his original followers, Jesus’ marriage was the most important aspect of their theology.

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/ancient-manuscript-proves-jesus-married-mary-magdalene-and-had-children-a6982836.html 
So this is instead the Jesus Christ that you believe in? undecided
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Shawl001(m): 6:24pm On Dec 20, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


Matthew 13:55 This was what they said:
"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

They did not call Jesus a capenter but the carpenter's son.
And at the age of 33 for a Jewish male at that time to still be with his parents will be very strange.

Well,
Read the book of Mark 6:1-3. You will get the picture.

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Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 6:54pm On Dec 20, 2020
Shawl001:

Well,
Read the book of Mark 6:1-3. You will get the picture.

Ok
Matthew 13:55 Say the carpenter's son
Mark 6:1-3 Says Jesus is a capenter

Still does not mean Jesus did not marry and had offspring.
Isaiah 53:10 Says: Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Dec 20, 2020
Kobojunkie:
So this is instead the Jesus Christ that you believe in? undecided

I believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
Isaiah 53:10 Says: Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Kobojunkie: 7:10pm On Dec 20, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


I believe Jesus Christ.
Isaiah 53:10 Says: Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
What Jesus Christ? There were many "messiahs" who came to the people even during the time that Jesus Christ(new testament) was on earth. So I am afraid you would need to fill me in on the "Jesus Christ" that you believe in.
So far we know at least now that your messiah was married to mary Magdalene, and according to do had kids and prolonged his days. What became of him? How long did he live? What happened to his "offspring"? Etc. What works did he do while he was alive?
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 7:32pm On Dec 20, 2020
@Kobojunkie

You can find out about the Messiah below:
Isaiah 53:10-11
10Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by gideonjeta(m): 7:51pm On Dec 20, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


Ok
Matthew 13:55 Say the carpenter's son
Mark 6:1-3 Says Jesus is a capenter

Still does not mean Jesus did not marry and had offspring.
Isaiah 53:10 Says: Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.


Jesus Christ did not get married. The Bible makes clear that Jesus was not married, even though it does not specifically comment on his marital status.
Consider the following.

The Bible frequently refers to Jesus’ family as well as to women who accompanied him during his ministry and who stood by him when he was executed, yet it never mentions his having a wife. (Matthew 12:46, 47; Mark 3:​31, 32; 15:40; Luke 8:​2, 3, 19, 20; John 19:25) The most plausible reason why the Bible is silent on this matter is that he was never married.

Concerning those who remain unmarried so that they can do more in God’s service, Jesus told his disciples: “Let the one who can make room for it [singleness] make room for it.” (Matthew 19:10-​12) He set the pattern for those who choose not to marry in order to devote themselves more fully to God.​—John 13:15; 1 Corinthians 7:​32-​38.

Just before he died, Jesus arranged for the care of his mother. (John 19:25-​27) If Jesus had been married or had fathered children, he would have made sure that such close family members were provided for as well.

The Bible uses Jesus as an example for husbands, but it does not refer to the way he treated a human wife. Instead, it says: “Husbands, continue loving your wives, just as the Christ also loved the congregation and gave himself up for it.” (Ephesians 5:​25) If Jesus had actually been married while on earth, would not his perfect example as a literal husband have been used in that verse?

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Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Kobojunkie: 8:48pm On Dec 20, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
@Kobojunkie

You can find out about the Messiah below:
Isaiah 53:10-11
10Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
No you can't

Again...
Kobojunkie:
What Jesus Christ? There were many "messiahs" who came to the people even during the time that Jesus Christ(new testament) was on earth. So I am afraid you would need to fill me in on the "Jesus Christ" that you believe in.
So far we know at least now that your messiah was married to mary Magdalene, and according to do had kids and prolonged his days. What became of him? How long did he live? What happened to his "offspring"? Etc. What works did he do while he was alive?
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 12:58am On Dec 21, 2020
@Kobojunkie
If you can't find out from Isaiah then it's up to you what you want to believe
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Kobojunkie: 1:14am On Dec 21, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
@Kobojunkie
If you can't find out from Isaiah then it's up to you what you want to believe

Isaiah wrote of what is to come. You claim the one that Isaiah who you claim is different from the one written of in the New Testament, has indeed come. So where of the evidence of the one that came in response to Isaiah's claim?
You keep trying to dribble around the obvious questons. In case you don't have any real response, please don't bother responding at all.
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 2:21am On Dec 21, 2020
@Kobojunkie
You are the one dribbling yourself as you are not after an answer.
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by johnhood(m): 9:26am On Dec 22, 2020
Shawl001:
Jesus was simply with His parents, helping them with carpentry.
That's why, the Pharisees and The scribes, all knew Him as the Carpenter. Cos they've seen Him around do carpentry works for people.
And all of a sudden, He started His REAL WORK, so they were confused ...and they saw and judged Him in the flesh.

Nothing mysterious happened between those years, its not just the focus for us.
The carpenter's son and the carpenter is not the same. If he was doing carpentry with his father it would have been: is this not the carpenter? Or did Mathew give a wrong account of their utterance?
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Shawl001(m): 11:54am On Dec 22, 2020
johnhood:

The carpenter's son and the carpenter is not the same. If he was doing carpentry with his father it would have been: is this not the carpenter? Or did Mathew give a wrong account of their utterance?

Bro,. Obviously you did read my next comment.
Pls read Mark 6:1-3
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Dec 22, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


Matthew 13:55 This was what they said:
"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

They did not call Jesus a capenter but the carpenter's son.
And at the age of 33 for a Jewish male at that time to still be with his parents will be very strange.

I think you noticed the "...his mother...his brothers James...? I'm trying my best to see the mention of wife and children there. I'm drawing blanks, by the way.
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by FirstSon01: 5:53pm On Dec 22, 2020
gideonjeta:


Jesus Christ did not get married. The Bible makes clear that Jesus was not married, even though it does not specifically comment on his marital status.
Consider the following.

The Bible frequently refers to Jesus’ family as well as to women who accompanied him during his ministry and who stood by him when he was executed, yet it never mentions his having a wife. (Matthew 12:46, 47; Mark 3:​31, 32; 15:40; Luke 8:​2, 3, 19, 20; John 19:25) The most plausible reason why the Bible is silent on this matter is that he was never married.

Concerning those who remain unmarried so that they can do more in God’s service, Jesus told his disciples: “Let the one who can make room for it [singleness] make room for it.” (Matthew 19:10-​12) He set the pattern for those who choose not to marry in order to devote themselves more fully to God.​—John 13:15; 1 Corinthians 7:​32-​38.

Just before he died, Jesus arranged for the care of his mother. (John 19:25-​27) If Jesus had been married or had fathered children, he would have made sure that such close family members were provided for as well.

The Bible uses Jesus as an example for husbands, but it does not refer to the way he treated a human wife. Instead, it says: “Husbands, continue loving your wives, just as the Christ also loved the congregation and gave himself up for it.” (Ephesians 5:​25) If Jesus had actually been married while on earth, would not his perfect example as a literal husband have been used in that verse?

This is one of the few times I've heard a religious person say something intelligible.

You Sir, have cleared the air brilliantly.

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Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by Nobody: 12:39pm On Dec 25, 2020
Jesus quoted from Isaiah in Luke 4: 17-21 by saying: “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

Isaiah 53: 10 also says: 10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

This clearly shows that the Messiah will have offspring. If Jesus did not have offspring then the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees would have challenged Jesus that Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah would have offspring.

The New Testament was written like 70 years after the events in the New Testament and not at the same time the events were taking place.

Luke 4: 17-21
17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” 20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

gideonjeta:


Jesus Christ did not get married. The Bible makes clear that Jesus was not married, even though it does not specifically comment on his marital status.
Consider the following.

The Bible frequently refers to Jesus’ family as well as to women who accompanied him during his ministry and who stood by him when he was executed, yet it never mentions his having a wife. (Matthew 12:46, 47; Mark 3:​31, 32; 15:40; Luke 8:​2, 3, 19, 20; John 19:25) The most plausible reason why the Bible is silent on this matter is that he was never married.

Concerning those who remain unmarried so that they can do more in God’s service, Jesus told his disciples: “Let the one who can make room for it [singleness] make room for it.” (Matthew 19:10-​12) He set the pattern for those who choose not to marry in order to devote themselves more fully to God.​—John 13:15; 1 Corinthians 7:​32-​38.

Just before he died, Jesus arranged for the care of his mother. (John 19:25-​27) If Jesus had been married or had fathered children, he would have made sure that such close family members were provided for as well.

The Bible uses Jesus as an example for husbands, but it does not refer to the way he treated a human wife. Instead, it says: “Husbands, continue loving your wives, just as the Christ also loved the congregation and gave himself up for it.” (Ephesians 5:​25) If Jesus had actually been married while on earth, would not his perfect example as a literal husband have been used in that verse?
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by sonmvayina(m): 12:46pm On Dec 25, 2020
The inventors of the story did not include that in their narrative...not important to them..

So anybody can make up anything..
Re: Where Was Jesus From Ages 12 To 33? by tobechi74: 3:14pm On Dec 25, 2020
Learning handwork

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