OsuAmaka:
They claimed that Gowon looted half of the Central Bank but they themselves won't return the loots they stole from us.

They also created the Eastern region, lumped all different ethnic groups in the east together and put them under the domination of ibos. Today, ibos believe they have a right over the ethnic nationalities they never had contact with before the coming of the British.

-Osu amaka

WoundedLamb:
OP, you're comparing colonization and leadership. And I believe the comparison is wrong both in terms of time and in terms of concept.

The colonial masters didn't scramble for Africa with the aim of providing leadership. They fought for Africa in order to enrich their respective countries, they didn't go there to build nations. As at that time, it wasn't termed "corruption", it was more like a way of life. Europeans nations exploring the world to bring home wealth was seen as one of the genuine means through which a country could expand its territory and increase its wealth. Just like people who took home war loots in the bible, Europeans conquered Africa and took home your resources, they were your colonial masters and not your leaders. It was wrong, inhuman but not against the law as far as civilization was concerned.

What you have in Nigeria is far different. Your leaders are not colonial masters. Your leaders are your own people whom you've entrusted with the task of building your nation and who have promised to do just that. But then they turn around to steal from you. They started behaving like your conquerors. And instead of calling them out, you're saying they haven't done as much as your conquerors who never even had the task of taking care of you. It's like comparing the way your father treats you and the way your master treats you (assuming you were sold to slavery). The reality is that the British people didn't fail you as you never gave them any mandate and they didn't promise to build your nation. But I think it's safe to say your leaders failed you. If you want to compare these guys and your leaders, compare how they lead their country and how your leaders lead your country

Just an opinion.

WoundedLamb:
OP, nice write-up but but I have a slightly different view. You're comparing colonization and leadership, and I believe the comparison is wrong both in terms of time and in terms of concept.

The colonial masters didn't scramble for Africa with the aim of providing leadership. They fought for Africa in order to enrich their respective countries, they didn't go there to build nations. As at that time, it wasn't termed "corruption", it was more like a way of life. Europeans nations exploring the world to bring home wealth was seen as one of the genuine means through which a country could expand its territory and increase its wealth. Just like people who took home war loots in the bible, Europeans conquered Africa and took home your resources, they were your colonial masters and not your leaders. It was wrong, inhuman but not against the law as far as civilization was concerned.

What you have in Nigeria is far different. Your leaders are not colonial masters. Your leaders are your own people whom you've entrusted with the task of building your nation and who have promised to do just that. But then they turn around to steal from you. They started behaving like your conquerors. And instead of calling them out, you're saying they haven't done as much as your conquerors who never even had the task of taking care of you. It's like comparing the way your father treats you and the way your master treats you (assuming you were sold to slavery). The reality is that the British people didn't fail you as you never gave them any mandate and they didn't promise to build your nation. But I think it's safe to say your leaders failed you. If you want to compare these guys and your leaders, compare how they lead their country and how your leaders lead your country.

You may not agree with my perspective but we should both agree that if Nigeria tending towards being failed nation is a fact, then it shouldn't matter who said it. The US, Canada, Australia, etc. were all colonized this same British but we don't see them always holding on to that subject as a shield against criticism. It's not forgotten but the fact is that the world has moved on and we can't keep using our past as an excuse. I think the question should be, is Nigeria really becoming a failed state or not? Comparing our present leaders with the Europeans of the colonization century is, to me, a frantic attempt at shying away from reality.

Just an opinion.

rosskiti:


Arrant nonsense.

You're talking from the perspective of a person who has been brainwashed to believe it is ''not a bad thing'' for another nation to leave its shores, go to another nation, and plunder, wreck, and loot it, in order to enrich itself.

That has ALWAYS been wrong and evil.

Every bit as evil as looting your own country.

How do you think God, the Creator of the Earth sees it?

Do you think God says ''oh, the British leaders were not looting their own country. It was a foreign country or continent that they looted. So the crime is not as bad as if they had looted their own country''?

If anything, from God's perspective, looting another nation is WORSE, not better.

When the West African Moors left to civilize Europe between 700AD and the 1400s, they could have easily looted Europe and converted everyone there to Islam and forced them to speak African languages and hate their heritage etc. Instead the Moors led Europe out of her Dark Ages and into the Renaissance, which led to their Industrial Revolution. they brought education, architecture, science, and medicine to Europe.

Go on Google Images and type in ''Moorish crests''. You will see hundreds of aristocratic European family crests and coat of arms featuring their black African moorish ancestors, whom they honour till this day, because of their positive influence on European development.

The colonial era was not 'biblical times' of 2000 years ago. It was less than 200 years ago, so saying that brigandage and looting of other nations was 'acceptable' and 'normal' in the 19th century, long after the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution, is an exercise in self-deceit and tomfoolery.

rosskiti:


Arrant nonsense.

You're talking from the perspective of a person who has been brainwashed to believe it is ''not a bad thing'' for another nation to leave its shores, go to another nation, and plunder, wreck, and loot it, in order to enrich itself.

That has ALWAYS been wrong and evil.

Every bit as evil as looting your own country.

How do you think God, the Creator of the Earth sees it?

Do you think God says ''oh, the British leaders were not looting their own country. It was a foreign country or continent that they looted. So the crime is not as bad as if they had looted their own country''?

If anything, from God's perspective, looting another nation is WORSE, not better.

When the West African Moors left to civilize Europe between 700AD and the 1400s, they could have easily looted Europe and converted everyone there to Islam and forced them to speak African languages and hate their heritage etc. Instead the Moors led Europe out of her Dark Ages and into the Renaissance, which led to their Industrial Revolution. they brought education, architecture, science, and medicine to Europe.

Go on Google Images and type in ''Moorish crests''. You will see hundreds of aristocratic European family crests and coat of arms featuring their black African moorish ancestors, whom they honour till this day, because of their influence on European development.

The colonial era was not 'biblical times' of 2000 years ago. It was less than 200 years ago, so saying that brigandage and looting of other nations was 'acceptable' and 'normal' in the 19th century, long after the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution, is an exercise in tomfoolery.

RuudVanNisteroy:

You have never once held the corrupt politicians accountable. All your posts blame the British for Nigeria being a fantastically corrupt failed state.

rosskiti:


The cacophony of anti-Nigerian drivel is so overwhelming that voices are needed to balance the story, and tell the FULL story.

Yo will never get away with exculpating the colonial looters who destroyed African civilization.

You will never get away with whitewashing their numerous crimes against humanity.

The corruption you complain of today is DIRECTLY TRACEABLE to the colonialists.

Here in Nigeria, when society sought to reset itself via the late General Murtala Ramat Muhammed, Nigeria's best and most honest ever leader, the imperialists refused to permit it. He was assasssinated in less than 6 months.

The CIA was implicated in that event.

This has happened all over Africa. Patrice Lumumba, Nkrumah, Sankara, Gbagbo, Mugabe, you name it.

The minute an African leader genuinely seeks to do right by his people, he is either toppled, assassinated, demonized, or rebel groups are sponsored against him by powerful imperialist forces.

This has meant that subsequent African leaders have become cowered by fear to not 'upset the apple cart' by being too progressive, inn order to avoid the 'wrath' of the imperialists. This has led to the rise of corrupt leaders.

But you know what?

God is watching.

BABYLON WILL FALL.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Did the so called imperialists make Nigerian leaders swear an oath to not provide portable water, 24 hour electricity,sewage systems,good road network and hospitals. Stop blaming the white man for all our countries problems.

WoundedLamb:


I stopped after reading your first line. Sorry but I don't discuss with people who can't have non fallacious debates on social issues or disagree with others' opinion without fang bearing. Lack of decorum irritates me.

Enjoy your day.

Blue3k:


Everything is their fault 6 decades after yet his worthless leaders still borrow and accept aid from those so devils. If the UK is so bad don't let them bribe your leaders with foreign aid. Be like Eritrea in the past and stop accepting it. Remember this guy will tell you Boko Haram is Americas fault then ignore the fact his foolish leaders spent 400 million to buy jets from the United states like they didn't have other option like Pakistan. .

rosskiti:


Without those ''worthless leaders'', this would have been YOU, so kindly do the needful, and STFU.

Blue3k:


lol mumu stop showing me your family pictures. Nigeria's agricultrual production is mainly peasant farmers they're still struggling to achieve mechanized farming. lol mumu if you dont like what Im saying make me shut up pussy.

rosskiti:


Under colonial rule, 95% of Nigerians were illiterate village peasant farmers. MEANING THAT YOU would have been among those illiterate peasants today.

The reason you are not is that BLACK NIGERIAN LEADERS who0 toppled the colonialists have managed to mechanize agriculture to a considerable extent, freeing up the population to engage in other pursuits without it leading to mass starvation.

BLACK NIGERIAN LEADERS have also introduced other forms of earning a living, such as manufacturing, the services, Information Technology, and entrepreneurship/commerce.

So, everyday you wake up, you dumbass cretin, THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS FOR BLACK RULE.

Blue3k:
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Mumu youre a terrible liar but that's your culture. 95% of your family must been illiterate mumus Famers during colonialism. Nigeria's illiteracy rate was no near 95% dumb liar. In 1960 the literary rate was somewhere at 50%.

Lol mumu the african leaders didnt do squat without help from foreign investors. Nigeria oil production is clear example before that Nigeria was more of agricultural based economy than it is now. Keep telling more lies only a 5 year old would believe.

Blue3k:
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Mumu youre a terrible liar but that's your culture. 95% of your family must been illiterate mumus Famers during colonialism. Nigeria's illiteracy rate was no near 95% dumb liar. In 1960 the literary rate was somewhere at 50%.

Lol mumu the african leaders didnt do squat without help from foreign investors.

rosskiti:


Can you people see the dumb cretin I'm debating with?


This doesn't even warrant a response.




Errm.... every country on earth grows by the use of local and foreign investors, you brainless little donkey.

But foreign investors do NOT com if there is nothing but bush in your country, which was the case under colonialism. with near zero infrastructure and mass illiteracy.

The reason foreign investors can enter Nigeria today is that the post-independence BLACK NIGERIAN LEADERS invested in education and infrastructure, and built an economy that went beyond the subsistence farming left by the colonialists.

See how desperate this shameless slave is to defend the colonial looters?

Are we sure you're even a Nigerian?

You sure you're not a white boy?

Because if you're black or African, you'e a truly disgusting, repulsive specimen.

Blue3k:
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Lol what's wrong with this mumu. You're right you're country sucks because your white masters control your destiny now and forever. That's why your worthless leaders with continue to grovel for foreign aid handouts.

Thats why the us can unlease terror on you then you idiotly by their.

95% of your family were illiterate peasants farmers because the British didnt teach you how to read. We understand keep blaming the west mumu maybe god will answer your prayer to destroy them. We know your pussy ass wont.

djevino:



Who takes that guy serious? Just ignore him so that he will continue to rant. I believe he works for those politicians. Always blaming others wtf

rosskiti:
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Nigeria does not ''grovel for foreign aid handouts''.

Pray, what country are you REALLY from? Tell us.



Illiterate. CARE TO TYPE WITH PROPER DICTION?



Are you a Nigerian?

WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE ARE YOU FROM?

We want to know.[/s]

Blue3k:


It's really sad and pathetic 60 years of independence and he's still crying. I'll let him continue his lamentations since that's the only catharsis he can get.

Blue3k:


Mumu keep crying the white man is clearly your master. Why wont you stop accepting their aid?

rosskiti:


YOU are the one crying.

I am GLAD for black rule, and HAPPY we got rid of the whites.

Blue3k:


Yiu made dozens of threads whiing about the white man keeping your down. You'll make dozens more crying. It's sad but that's all you can do.

Tell us why your worthless leaders are buying jets from the America when they caused boko haram insurgency?

rosskiti:
.. He is YOUR master. That's why you're defending him. What ''aid''? They extract ten times more from Africa than they give in their pitiful ''aid'' you low IQ donkey.[/b]

Blue3k:
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Lol your worthless politicians sold you out to the white man for scraps? Lol they perfected colonialism now they dont even need troops to rob you just a bribe.