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Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by ozile: 8:18pm On Dec 28, 2020
Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis on VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Other Children? I Think Every Mother Was Once A Virgin.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by DuBLINGreenb(m): 8:23pm On Dec 28, 2020
If you ask me!!!!

People are just desperate

Their minds are brutish, they can't comprehend their death as an invitable return to a mulch

They prefer to look think they'll live forever, they can't comprehend death their minds are not developed enough for that.

So they think if you say some words an imaginary something or somebody will help you live forever to some that person is male to others female to others a child etc etc it's all mostly bogus claims

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Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by doggedfighter(f): 8:23pm On Dec 28, 2020
It gives them orgasms

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Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by chatinent: 8:25pm On Dec 28, 2020
Because they believe Jesus is God.


They believe God sent himself to the world to die for our sins and God resurrected himself. They believe Jesus on Earth prayed to himself in heaven to save him on Earth.


Yawns.

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Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by ozile: 8:34pm On Dec 28, 2020
chatinent:
Because they believe Jesus is God.


They believe God sent himself to the world to die for our sins and God resurrected himself. They believe Jesus on Earth prayed to himself in heaven to save him on Earth.


Yawns.
Some don’t even believe that marry had other children aside Jesus.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by chatinent: 8:35pm On Dec 28, 2020
ozile:

Some don’t even believe that marry had other children aside Jesus.


Of course, Mary never remained a virgin. She bore up to four other children. Ignorance is a virtue to many.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by donbachi(m): 8:36pm On Dec 28, 2020
She was a virgin.if u read luke chapter 1.u will see it there..they were both engaged and not married.

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Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by freshboi88: 8:49pm On Dec 28, 2020
chatinent:



Of course, Mary never remained a virgin. She bore up to four other children. Ignorance is a virtue to many.

Really, biblical proof!....Can u provide it
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by ozile: 8:50pm On Dec 28, 2020
donbachi:
She was a virgin.if u read luke chapter 1.u will see it there..they were both engaged and not married.
We know she was a virgin but after birth, was she still a virgin didn’t she give birth to other children ms as well.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by chiemmanuel(m): 8:56pm On Dec 28, 2020
That's what they are taught from infancy,
They defend it will all their hearts
They swallow all the Vatican lies hook line and sinker
They are more loyal to the papacy than the Bible and The teachings of Jesus Christ
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by chatinent: 9:02pm On Dec 28, 2020
freshboi88:


Really, biblical proof!....Can u provide it


Simple proof: Mark 6:3.


Don't freak out.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by DappaD: 9:03pm On Dec 28, 2020
ozile:
Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis on VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Other Children? I Think Every Mother Was Once A Virgin.

Jesus himself didn't attach that much importance to either his mother or his relatives. Luke 11:27-28; John 7:5
In fact, he viewed those who did the will of his Father as his closest family not even those related to him by blood. Matthew 12:49-50

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Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by Organsmuggler(f): 9:30pm On Dec 28, 2020
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Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by freshboi88: 9:44pm On Dec 28, 2020
chatinent:



Simple proof: Mark 6:3.


Don't freak out.

Ignorance at its peak.

New Living Translation

Mark 6:3 Then they scoffed, “He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him.

Now let's see who these people mentioned really are scripturally

Mark 15:40 Some women were there, watching from a distance, including Mary Magdalene, Mary (the mother of James the younger and of Joseph), and Salome. 41They had been followers of Jesus and had cared for him while he was in Galilee. Many other women who had come with him to Jerusalem were also there.

Who is this Mary @bolded. She is certainly not the mother of Jesus. But the Mother of James and Joseph mentioned in Mark 6:3.

So if James and Joseph are not children of Mary Mother of Jesus, why then are they called brothers of Jesus. Simple, let's go back to the scriptures.

John 19:25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

So the mother of James and Joseph is actually Mary of Clopas who is Jesus's mother's sister. Could actually be a cousin but scripture uses sister.

So that means your James and Joseph were actually cousins of Jesus not children of Jesus's Mother.

Luke 6:16 Judas (son of James). Judas in that passage was the son of James
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by uboma(m): 11:24pm On Dec 28, 2020
freshboi88:


Ignorance at its peak.

New Living Translation

Mark 6:3 Then they scoffed, “He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him.

Now let's see who these people mentioned really are scripturally

Mark 15:40 Some women were there, watching from a distance, including Mary Magdalene, Mary (the mother of James the younger and of Joseph), and Salome. 41They had been followers of Jesus and had cared for him while he was in Galilee. Many other women who had come with him to Jerusalem were also there.

Who is this Mary @bolded. She is certainly not the mother of Jesus. But the Mother of James and Joseph mentioned in Mark 6:3.

So if James and Joseph are not children of Mary Mother of Jesus, why then are they called brothers of Jesus. Simple, let's go back to the scriptures.

John 19:25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

So the mother of James and Joseph is actually Mary of Clopas who is Jesus's mother's sister. Could actually be a cousin but scripture uses sister.

So that means your James and Joseph were actually cousins of Jesus not children of Jesus's Mother.

Luke 6:16 Judas (son of James). Judas in that passage was the son of James







Call a spade what it truly is. A spade is a spade, can't be a spoon.

You have been so brainwashed that you now twist the scriptures to suit your falacy.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by freshboi88: 5:31am On Dec 29, 2020
uboma:




Call a spade what it truly is. A spade is a spade, can't be a spoon.

You have been so brainwashed that you now twist the scriptures to suit your falacy.

Use your God given Brain for once!!!!!!


What is brainwashed here. How have I twisted scripture?... The verses are there for you to read and understand .

Mary had other children but when Jesus was crucified, Jesus had to ask John to Apostle to take care of his Mother. And she thereafter lived with him


John 19:26-27 (NIV)
26 When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is your son,” 27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.

So after the death of Jesus. It John the Beloved who took the Mother of Jesus to live with him.

Where were her other children that she had to go live with John the Apostle who was not a child of Mary?


Mumu read your Bible No!..... You prefer to listen to pastor without asking questions.

Even when u hear something diff, u cannot do a little research with an open mind to seek the truth.

Guy this nah 2021 o. Wise up!
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by uboma(m): 5:59am On Dec 29, 2020
freshboi88:


Use your God given Brain for once!!!!!!


What is brainwashed here. How have I twisted scripture?... The verses are there for you to read and understand .

Mary had other children but when Jesus was crucified, Jesus had to ask John to Apostle to take care of his Mother. And she thereafter lived with him


John 19:26-27 (NIV)
26 When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is your son,” 27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.

So after the death of Jesus. It John the Beloved who took the Mother of Jesus to live with him.

Where were her other children that she had to go live with John the Apostle who was not a child of Mary?


Mumu read your Bible No!..... You prefer to listen to pastor without asking questions.

Even when u hear something diff, u cannot do a little research with an open mind to seek the truth.

Guy this nah 2021 o. Wise up!


I am not a Bible scholar but mentions about the half brothers and sisters of Jesus Christ abound in the Holy Bible.

A few of these scriptures are,

Matt. 12:46; 13:55;

Mark 6:3;

John 2:12; 7:3, 5, 10;

Acts 1:14;

1 Cor. 9:5;

Gal. 1:19

Lemme see how you plan to twist these scriptures to buttress your lies about Mary being a virgin till her death.
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26am On Dec 29, 2020
At age 12 we read in the scriptures that Joseph took his family to Jerusalem {Luke 2:41-52} Joseph trained Jesus to take up his craft just as Jews always teach their children their handiworks.
The question is
Did Joseph lived all his life without having sex with the girl he married?
Was that his intentions when marrying her?
After Jesus' birth (which Joseph never partake) is it now right or wrong for him to enjoy his wife?


Well Joseph surely had sex with Mary and they had several children after Jesus four boys and some girls {Matthew 13:55-56} Mary was grieved when she became a Christian, Jesus asked Apostles John to take her in and treat her like his own mother {John 19:26-27 compared to Matthew 12:46-50} it was much later that two of Mary's other sons embraced the truth and they were allowed to partake in the written of the Bible though they weren't part of the Apostles, they are James and Jude, their books were included in the scriptures! Mark 6:3
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by olanrele78674: 6:41am On Dec 29, 2020
It gives them orgasms
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by AntiChristian: 7:16am On Dec 29, 2020
Mary is the mother of their God na.

Can't you read the Hail Mary?

....Hail Mary mother of God....
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by shadeyinka(m): 8:05am On Dec 29, 2020
freshboi88:


Ignorance at its peak.

New Living Translation

Mark 6:3 Then they scoffed, “He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him.

Now let's see who these people mentioned really are scripturally

Mark 15:40 Some women were there, watching from a distance, including Mary Magdalene, Mary (the mother of James the younger and of Joseph), and Salome. 41They had been followers of Jesus and had cared for him while he was in Galilee. Many other women who had come with him to Jerusalem were also there.

Who is this Mary @bolded. She is certainly not the mother of Jesus. But the Mother of James and Joseph mentioned in Mark 6:3.

So if James and Joseph are not children of Mary Mother of Jesus, why then are they called brothers of Jesus. Simple, let's go back to the scriptures.

John 19:25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

So the mother of James and Joseph is actually Mary of Clopas who is Jesus's mother's sister. Could actually be a cousin but scripture uses sister.

So that means your James and Joseph were actually cousins of Jesus not children of Jesus's Mother.

Luke 6:16 Judas (son of James). Judas in that passage was the son of James




1. Some names were common in Israel and particularly in some families. Eg. John, James, Mary.
It was as if every little girl at a time bore the name Mary LOL!
Luk 1:60-61:
"And his mother answered and said, Not so; but he shall be called John. And they said to her, There is none of your kindred that is called by this name."
John 19:25 is not special with respect to that. Some names like James, John, Mary was borne by every Tom, dick and Harry in Israel!

2. The context of Mark6:3 was biological. In other words they were questioning the prophethood of Christ.
Mark 6:3
Then they scoffed, “He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him.

3. Please what does the word UNTIL mean in this scripture?
Mat 1:25:
"And he didn't know {have sex with} her until she gave birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus."

Joseph waited until the birth of Jesus before having sex with her. This is important because, Mary could have had a miscarriage and the paternity of Jesus would have been questionable.

Finally, marriage amongs the Jews were in two stages
1. bethrothal: which is the joining together of a male and a female in marriage (the main marriage ceremony). Bethrothal is NOT the same as engagement in our contemporary sense: it is the core of marriage itself.
2. consummation: which entail the release of the betrothed woman to her husband house by her father or guidian for sexual consummation of the marriage.

Amongst the poor, only the bethrothal is marked with eating and drinking. The consummation require just a blessing as she goes. Those who are financially okay will make another celebration out of this as a send off ceremony!

Shalom
Re: Why Do Catholics Keep Emphasis On VIRGIN Mary After She Had Several Children by freshboi88: 2:26pm On Dec 29, 2020
shadeyinka:

1. Some names were common in Israel and particularly in some families. Eg. John, James, Mary.
It was as if every little girl at a time bore the name Mary LOL!
Luk 1:60-61:
"And his mother answered and said, Not so; but he shall be called John. And they said to her, There is none of your kindred that is called by this name."
John 19:25 is not special with respect to that. Some names like James, John, Mary was borne by every Tom, dick and Harry in Israel!

2. The context of Mark6:3 was biological. In other words they were questioning the prophethood of Christ.
Mark 6:3
Then they scoffed, “He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him.

3. Please what does the word UNTIL mean in this scripture?
Mat 1:25:
"And he didn't know {have sex with} her until she gave birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus."

Joseph waited until the birth of Jesus before having sex with her. This is important because, Mary could have had a miscarriage and the paternity of Jesus would have been questionable.

Finally, marriage amongs the Jews were in two stages
1. bethrothal: which is the joining together of a male and a female in marriage (the main marriage ceremony). Bethrothal is NOT the same as engagement in our contemporary sense: it is the core of marriage itself.
2. consummation: which entail the release of the betrothed woman to her husband house by her father or guidian for sexual consummation of the marriage.

Amongst the poor, only the bethrothal is marked with eating and drinking. The consummation require just a blessing as she goes. Those who are financially okay will make another celebration out of this as a send off ceremony!

Shalom



Ignoranmus

So your only proof that these people mentioned are blood brothers and sisters of Jesus is that some people were angry. Nah so your sense reach.

My six years old nephew would reason better.

First if all, In the original text of the gospel, we find the Greek word adelphos, meaning brothers, used. However, adelphos does not just mean blood brothers born of the same parents. Rather, adelphos was used to describe brothers not born of the same parents, like a half-brother or step-brother. The word also described other relationships like cousins, nephews, uncles, etc.

Example: Gen 13:8 So Abram said to Lot, “Please let there be no contention between you and me, or between your herdsmen and my herdsmen. After all, we are brothers

Abraham and Lot are they brothers in the sense we use the word today? No! What they had was an Uncle and Nephew relationship.

Look at 1 chronicles 23:21-22 21 The sons of Merari; Mahli, and Mushi. The sons of Mahli; Eleazar, and Kish. 22And Eleazar died, and had no sons, but daughters: and their brethren the sons of Kish took them. 23The sons of Mushi; Mahli, and Eder, and Jeremoth, three.

In reality they married their cousins not blood sisters.

So brothers and sisters as seen in the scripture does not always refer to biological siblings

This point is again corroborated at the crucifixion scene: Before He dies, our Lord says to Mary, “Woman, there is your son,” and then to St. John, who is definitely not a blood brother, “There is your mother.”

If you are well read and not ignorant you know that According to Jewish law, the oldest son had the responsibility of caring for the widowed mother, and that responsibility would pass to the next oldest if anything happened to the first born son. By this time, St. Joseph had died. Since Jesus, the first born, had no “blood brother,” He entrusted Mary to the care of St. John, the Beloved Disciple.

Can u tell me why Jesus would put Mary in the care of John beloved and not Mary's other children. To the extent that she followed John to his home. So she couldn't go n live with her other children?

On the point if carnal knowledge... u did not make any point there.

Matt 28:20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have enjoined you. And behold, I am with you all the days, until the completion of the age.

do we take this statement to mean that Jesus will not be with his disciples after the completion of age?............Answer this and cure ur delusion

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