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Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by Biodun556(m): 8:30pm On Jan 02, 2021
Horrors of Irish Mother and Baby Homes revealed in new report.


In 1975, two 12-year-old boys were playing at the site of the former Mother and Baby Home. They found a hole or chamber "filled to the brim" with children's skeletons underneath a concrete slab.One of them later said he had seen about twenty skeletons. The slab was believed by some to have covered the former Home's septic tank.Locals speculated that these were the remains of victims of the Great Famine, unbaptised babies,and/or stillborn babies from the Home.The number of bodies was then unknown, but was assumed to be small. It was re-sealed shortly afterwards, following prayers at the site by a priest.For the next 35 years the burial site was tended to by a local couple, who also built a small grotto there.

"He was wrenched from my breast by one of the nuns whilst I was breastfeeding him and taken away for adoption." Over 100 people interviewed for new report about Mother and Baby homes in Ireland

For the report, 164 people were interviewed, but only 77 gave statements.

Harrowing details

The witness statements, which are anonymous, throughout the report show systemic abuse throughout Irish mother and baby homes.

“In early February 1968, when my baby boy was six-seven weeks old, he was wrenched from my breast by one of the nuns whilst I was breastfeeding him and taken away for adoption”. She makes clear that “[a]t no time did I give my consent to my son’s adoption."
“I know now that my daughter was adopted even though I never gave any consent to this.”
“I do not even know whether he was buried in a coffin. There was never even a kind or sympathetic [word] spoken to me”
Accounts of the medical care, or lack thereof, are staggering. Pregnant women received little to no medical care and were told that any pain they suffered was to atone for their sins.

“The medical care my mother received at the County Home was minimal at best. No medical doctor attended my birth, instead, it was overseen by nuns.”

“the only antenatal care we received was from one sister who took our blood pressure and carried out urine tests … birthing conditions at Bessborough were primitive and the girls were in agony after the birth.”


Compounded with the lack of medical care and compassion, the heavily pregnant women were forced to work heavy labor.

“We were made to work even if we were very ill, as I was. No excuses were ever accepted.”
“we were not allowed to stop when we felt tired. In the winter months, I had to polish and scrub the corridors. Other women were sent to work in the laundries. The work was especially difficult given that I and the other women were pregnant. I worked seven days a week every week until I went into labor.”

One witness recounts her time at Bessborough, where she was sent after being raped at 13 years old and becoming pregnant:

“I remember that it was very strange and lonely for me in Bessboro, I couldn't use my own name … or wear my own clothes. The other girls looked after me and helped me because I was so young and didn't know what was happening to me.”



Numerous news reports alleging the existence of a mass grave containing 800 babies in a septic tank, based on Corless' work, were published - first by journalist Alison O'Reilly, in the Irish Mail on Sunday, and later by international media outlets in late May/early June 2014. The story sparked outrage in Ireland and internationally.

The Irish government came under pressure to launch an investigation.The government called the allegations "deeply disturbing" and ordered the police to begin a preliminary investigation, with the aim of launching an inquiry.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-46708762



://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Secours_Mother_and_Baby_Home

Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by SweetBuns(f): 8:31pm On Jan 02, 2021
dark history

it's sad to know that the miniature versions of these hellholes exist all over Nigeria
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by Biodun556(m): 8:33pm On Jan 02, 2021
TWO YEARS AGO Ireland was shaken by revelations about what had happened at a home for unmarried mothers and their children in Tuam.

After a local investigation revealed that many as 800 children were buried between 1925 and 1961, then minister for children and youth affairs Charlie Flanagan spoke of a situation “almost too graphic and horrible to believe”.

Young, innocent children, their lives so short and harrowing were, it seems, in death not even given a proper, decent or humane burial.
Appalling as the news of what happened at the home was, Tuam was symptomatic of a bigger problem.

“The history of mother and baby homes in Ireland in the early and middle decades of the 20th century reflects a brutally, unforgiving response by society, religions and state institutions,” he went on.

It’s now two years on, and this week Minister for Children and Youth Affairs Katherine Zappone – Flanagan’s successor in the job – announced that an extension means that it will be almost another two years before a report lifting the lid on what happened at these homes is published.

With the horror of these incidents now faded from the headlines, just what is happening in the quest for justice for the survivors of Ireland’s mother and baby homes?
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by Biodun556(m): 8:40pm On Jan 02, 2021
Nowhere to turn: These Irish women killed their babies to avoid lives of scandal and poverty
Some women were sentenced to death for killing their children but none were actually executed as the justice system was sympathetic to their plight.
Saturday 25 April 2015 22:00 68,960 82
BETWEEN 1850 and 1900 in Ireland, there were more than 4,500 suspected cases of infanticide of a child under the age of three by their mother.

It was a time when having a child out of wedlock would have brought disgrace on a woman and her entire family. Being a single mother in 1850 meant resigning yourself to a destitute life for you and your child.

Ann Maher was one woman faced with this crisis in 1898. She was 20 years old and single. Ann gave birth to a baby boy and made several attempts to hand over his care to someone else.

TheJournal.ie
Photograph from penal file of Anne Maher, on her entry to prison.
Source: NAI, GPB
She first went to an institution for destitute children in Dublin but her little boy was not taken. Afterwards, she went to another institution in Drumcondra but, again, they refused to take her baby. She made a third attempt to find a childminder but they were not at home.

Her baby boy was later discovered dead in a manure pit near the childminder’s house. Ann was found guilty of manslaughter and sent to prison, where she served more than two years.
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by dawnomike(m): 8:48pm On Jan 02, 2021
Most of the people in charge of the church in the medieval age and pre-21st century were devilish say the least.
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by hisgrace090: 9:01pm On Jan 02, 2021
When demons disguise as church leaders this is what you get in turn.
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by Biodun556(m): 9:18pm On Jan 02, 2021
hisgrace090:
When demons disguise as church leaders this is what you get in turn.


grin
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by TRDLG01: 9:40pm On Jan 02, 2021
I saw a topic on the 28 of September in Nairaland about a deeper life member who claimed DL was a cult. Here is a more elaborate view on that topic. It's a blog actually, by an ex-leader of the church. I'll like you guys to check it out. Here is the link

https://trdlg.

But for some excerpt. Here you go.

They are so easy to recognise, are they not? Those deeper life people. Always remaining inflexible in their beliefs and refusing to let anyone bend them out of it. People react to deeper Lifers differently; some get irritated by their insistence on lack of taste, others get challenged by them-they are so different they stand out proudly- while the rest don't give a damn. It's a free world, isn't it? Everybody can do whatever they like. Maybe it is a free world for you, reader, who grew up perhaps in a different denomination, religion or no religion at all. But for the average deeper life member, it is not a free world. You must have always suspected it; beneath all these façade of being born again and convincing the world to be born again (physically especially), there is something unsavoury going on beneath.
They all act the same way, dress the same way, confess the same convictions, etc. How did Kumuyi do it? How did he organise people so uniformly and cooperatively, especially in this jaga-jaga Nigeria we live in? He must be a very smart man and a true servant of God. I can't argue that. This write-up is not meant to dispute if Pastor W.F Kumuyi's calling is real or fake. I'm always careful in handling or criticising matters of religion because like most people do, they either throw away the baby with the dirty bath water or they insist on keeping the baby in the dirty bath water altogether. What I'm here to do is in fact to thoroughly, as much as I can, separate both the baby and the dirty bath water and get rid of that dirty water.
I have about 20+ topics on this issue to validate my points and I won't let much of my experience in deeper life get in the way, because I have several stories of many deeper life members that have been crushed under the deeper life system. And as I write, some, if not most of these people, are still stuck in the church because like a cult, a set of emotionally manipulative narratives have been forged into their minds never to leave. They dare not.
Now I know most of you will say, "cult ke?" That's too strong a word to use for a church whose members are the meekest people on earth. For such argument I'll reply to it this way: if you mean meek from the dictionary definition, then, yes- to some extent- deeper Lifers are meek. But if you mean the Biblical meekness, then we have some theological strings to untangle, which this blog is clearly not created for. But for those interested in the meat of the matter, it's just as I said it. A holy cult. And I don't mince words when I say this. the line between a denomination and a holy cult is so narrow it could be easily breached anytime, especially unconsciously by the leader at the very top. If you know any deeper life member very well, or you are a member, there are twelve patterns listed below. Look through and tell me the percentage the deeper life Church or its members score in this test.
- the group (Church) displays excessive zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and regards his belief system, ideology, practices as the Truth, or as law or personal conviction.
- Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
- the leadership dictates, sometimes in great details how members should think, act, and feel (e.g members must get permission to date, change jobs, or marry. Or leaders prescribe what to wear, where to live, whether to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth.)
- the group (Church) is elitist. Claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and its members.
- the group (Church) has a polarised us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict or friction with the wider society.
- the Leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and control members. Often this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
- Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group (church) and its related activities.
- Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialise only or mostly with their groups(Church ) members.
- the most loyal members ('the true believers') feel there can be no life outside the context of the group (church). They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisal to themselves or others if they leave or even consider leaving the group (Church).
- There is a leader who appears to be the ultimate authority, spokespersons. His/Her views are hardly or never challenged by others. And his/her opinions are readily accepted without question.
- Only one point of view is presented in the group (church). Hardly or never are any other points of views recognised or seen as valid.
- the attitude of the followers to its leaders is total submission and compliance; there is hardly any check and balance.
These features are gotten from cultresearch.org. These are the features you find in a cult. For a holy cult, it won't appear to be obvious on the surface, but if you move beyond the surface to its underneath like I've done, you'll see it clearly-all these features and more.
For those who will argue that other denominations in Nigeria also have these traits, so deeper life is no different from them; well...
If you want information about other denominational systems, this is not the blog for you, maybe someone will do that in future. This blog focuses on deeper life doctrines and deeper life's alone.
Re: Inside Ireland Concentration Camp For Pregnant Unmarried Women Run By Church by Janosky: 10:00pm On Jan 02, 2021
TRDLG01:
I saw a topic on the 28 of September in Nairaland about a deeper life member who claimed DL was a cult. Here is a more elaborate view on that topic. It's a blog actually, by an ex-leader of the church. I'll like you guys to check it out. Here is the link

https://trdlg.

But for some excerpt. Here you go.

They are so easy to recognise, are they not? Those deeper life people. Always remaining inflexible in their beliefs and refusing to let anyone bend them out of it. People react to deeper Lifers differently; some get irritated by their insistence on lack of taste, others get challenged by them-they are so different they stand out proudly- while the rest don't give a damn. It's a free world, isn't it? Everybody can do whatever they like. Maybe it is a free world for you, reader, who grew up perhaps in a different denomination, religion or no religion at all. But for the average deeper life member, it is not a free world. You must have always suspected it; beneath all these façade of being born again and convincing the world to be born again (physically especially), there is something unsavoury going on beneath.
They all act the same way, dress the same way, confess the same convictions, etc. How did Kumuyi do it? How did he organise people so uniformly and cooperatively, especially in this jaga-jaga Nigeria we live in? He must be a very smart man and a true servant of God. I can't argue that. This write-up is not meant to dispute if Pastor W.F Kumuyi's calling is real or fake. I'm always careful in handling or criticising matters of religion because like most people do, they either throw away the baby with the dirty bath water or they insist on keeping the baby in the dirty bath water altogether. What I'm here to do is in fact to thoroughly, as much as I can, separate both the baby and the dirty bath water and get rid of that dirty water.
I have about 20+ topics on this issue to validate my points and I won't let much of my experience in deeper life get in the way, because I have several stories of many deeper life members that have been crushed under the deeper life system. And as I write, some, if not most of these people, are still stuck in the church because like a cult, a set of emotionally manipulative narratives have been forged into their minds never to leave. They dare not.
Now I know most of you will say, "cult ke?" That's too strong a word to use for a church whose members are the meekest people on earth. For such argument I'll reply to it this way: if you mean meek from the dictionary definition, then, yes- to some extent- deeper Lifers are meek. But if you mean the Biblical meekness, then we have some theological strings to untangle, which this blog is clearly not created for. But for those interested in the meat of the matter, it's just as I said it. A holy cult. And I don't mince words when I say this. the line between a denomination and a holy cult is so narrow it could be easily breached anytime, especially unconsciously by the leader at the very top. If you know any deeper life member very well, or you are a member, there are twelve patterns listed below. Look through and tell me the percentage the deeper life Church or its members score in this test.
- the group (Church) displays excessive zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and regards his belief system, ideology, practices as the Truth, or as law or personal conviction.
- Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
- the leadership dictates, sometimes in great details how members should think, act, and feel (e.g members must get permission to date, change jobs, or marry. Or leaders prescribe what to wear, where to live, whether to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth.)
- the group (Church) is elitist. Claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and its members.
- the group (Church) has a polarised us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict or friction with the wider society.
- the Leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and control members. Often this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
- Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group (church) and its related activities.
- Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialise only or mostly with their groups(Church ) members.
- the most loyal members ('the true believers') feel there can be no life outside the context of the group (church). They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisal to themselves or others if they leave or even consider leaving the group (Church).
- There is a leader who appears to be the ultimate authority, spokespersons. His/Her views are hardly or never challenged by others. And his/her opinions are readily accepted without question.
- Only one point of view is presented in the group (church). Hardly or never are any other points of views recognised or seen as valid.
- the attitude of the followers to its leaders is total submission and compliance; there is hardly any check and balance.
These features are gotten from cultresearch.org. These are the features you find in a cult. For a holy cult, it won't appear to be obvious on the surface, but if you move beyond the surface to its underneath like I've done, you'll see it clearly-all these features and more.
For those who will argue that other denominations in Nigeria also have these traits, so deeper life is no different from them; well...
If you want information about other denominational systems, this is not the blog for you, maybe someone will do that in future. This blog focuses on deeper life doctrines and deeper life's alone.

Cc:
OLAADEGBU done jakpa from Nairaland?

OLAADEGBU , please come here shepaly.
Your fellow sheeples says your god of men is presiding over a CULT..
...
grin cheesy cheesy grin

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