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UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by Nairalandbaby: 1:41pm On Jan 06, 2021
There is Village in Kenya in the middle of a desert, called Umuja, in the Village you can only find women and not a single man! Click link and find out why;

https://www.operanewsapp.com/ng/en/share/detail?news_id=68dd44d0e6e64ee7c5ce4e678a74b8bf&news_entry_id=s4a80eaab210106en_ng&open_type=tanscoded&request_id=news_371a785f-0307-48aa-aa03-cfa2035ad34a&from=news

Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by illicit(m): 2:12pm On Jan 06, 2021
That is nomansland....

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by ijawcitizen(m): 2:14pm On Jan 06, 2021
Igbos should go and claim Kenya o.

Kenyan village Umu-aja founded and 'ruled' by igbos.

Cc. Bonesking
Pazienza Logan23 JubrilBuhari
Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by pazienza(m): 2:26pm On Jan 06, 2021
ijawcitizen:
Igbos should go and claim Kenya o.

Kenyan village Umu-aja founded and 'ruled' by igbos.

Cc. Bonesking
Pazienza Logan23 JubrilBuhari

We don't claim anyone that doesn't speak a language we understand.
If they like let them claim to have migrated from Igbo land, once your indigenous language is not Igbo language, Ndiigbo will NEVER accept you.

We are not a FRANCHISE and we intend not to hold local meetings in Pidgin language just to accommodate a people who can't understand our language and that we can't understand theirs.

Maybe your Ijaw people should emulate Ndiigbo in this regard and stop causing problems for your neighbours.

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by ijawcitizen(m): 3:52pm On Jan 06, 2021
pazienza:


We don't claim anyone that doesn't speak a language we understand.
If they like let them claim to have migrated from Igbo land, once your indigenous language is not Igbo language, Ndiigbo will NEVER accept you.

We are not a FRANCHISE and we intend not to hold local meetings in Pidgin language just to accommodate a people who can't understand our language and that we can't understand theirs.

Maybe your Ijaw people should emulate Ndiigbo in this regard and stop causing problems for your neighbours.

But your Ohaneze Ndigbo is already conducting their meetings in pidgin.

Ijaw is not a franchise according to your funny igbo revisionism. All Ijaw clans are linked primarily by ancestry, then culture and beliefs.

It is your igbo ethnic group that has all the traits of FRANCHISE.

We have igbos of igala origin.
igbos of Benin origin.
Igbos of Ijaw origin (Ndoki and possibly
oguta and certain communities in anioma)
Igbos of Ibibio/Annang origin
Igbos of Idoma origin
Igbos of Yoruba origin (Olukumi)
Igbos of .....

In fact, the list is endless!

Rejoice dude, you just discovered igbos of Kenyan origin Umuaja.

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by pazienza(m): 4:03pm On Jan 06, 2021
ijawcitizen:


But your Ohaneze Ndigbo is already conducting their meetings in pidgin.

Ijaw is not a franchise according to your funny igbo revisionism. All Ijaw clans are linked primarily by ancestry, then culture and beliefs.

It is your igbo ethnic group that has all the traits of FRANCHISE.

We have igbos of igala origin.
igbos of Benin origin.
Igbos of Ijaw origin (Ndoki and possibly
oguta and certain communities in anioma)
Igbos of Ibibio/Annang origin
Igbos of Idoma origin
Igbos of Yoruba origin (Olukumi)
Igbos of .....

In fact, the list is endless!

Rejoice dude, you just discovered igbos of Kenyan origin Umuaja.

Ohanaeze conduct business in Igbo and English. But every Igbo man understands Igbo language.

The stories of Bini, Igala and etc founding Igbo speaking towns are fables and senseless.

The tail don't wag the dog. Sure enough, many Igala, Ijaw and Bini people in the past wandered into Igbo speaking territories in that past and were assimilated as Igbos by overwhelming indigenous Igbo population they met on ground. In same manner many Igbo migrated into Igala, Bini, Ijaw,Idoma, etc territories and were assimilated there as they lost their Igbo language to indigenous people they met there. This is what happened to many Igbos in Ijawland, Isoko , Igala, Idoma, etc.

This is the way of human history. Today many Nigerians, Arabs, Africans are migrating to Germany. When they get there, they will have to learn German language and culture and their children will become fully assimilated as ethnic Germans. It will be wrong for descendants of such migrants to come out tomorrow and start telling Germans that they founded German towns and that Germans are not a homogeneous people.
This is the case of Bini migrants in Anioma, Igala migrants in Northern Enugu and Anambra and few Ijaw and Ibibio people in Ndoki. They were assimilated and acculturated as Igbos by Igbo they met there.

Igbo is not a FRANCHISE. To be accepted as Igbo, you must speak Igbo as your first language and mother tongue.
This is not the case with Ijaw.

Ogbia, Eastern Obolo,Ibeno, Abua, Andoni, all speak Cross River language in same language grouping as Ibibio/Efik/Ananng cluster, yet Ijaw claim them.

Engenni, Epie/Atissa,Udekeme are all Edoid speakers, yet Ijaw claim them.

Opobo town, Bonny town all speak Igbo, yet Ijaw claim them.

I have never heard of an Ethnic group having people speaking diverse languages not even belonging to same language grouping.

Such fraud only happens in a Fraudulent country like Nigeria as represented by the Hausa-Fulani and Ijaw FRANCHISE.

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by Nobody: 11:16pm On Jan 06, 2021
Nairalandbaby:
There is Village in Kenya in the middle of a desert, called Umuja, in the Village you can only find women and not a single man! Click link and find out why;

https://www.operanewsapp.com/ng/en/share/detail?news_id=68dd44d0e6e64ee7c5ce4e678a74b8bf&news_entry_id=s4a80eaab210106en_ng&open_type=tanscoded&request_id=news_371a785f-0307-48aa-aa03-cfa2035ad34a&from=news

Ijawcitizen aka Tonye Barcanista has opened another nairaland account today and opened a thread and then start shouting igbos...Why are u so so so so so obsessed with anything igbo?

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by Nobody: 11:21pm On Jan 06, 2021
pazienza:


Ohanaeze conduct business in Igbo and English. But every Igbo man understands Igbo language.

The stories of Bini, Igala and etc founding Igbo speaking towns are fables and senseless.

The tail don't wag the dog. Sure enough, many Igala, Ijaw and Bini people in the past wandered into Igbo speaking territories in that past and were assimilated as Igbos by overwhelming indigenous Igbo population they met on ground. In same manner many Igbo migrated into Igala, Bini, Ijaw,Idoma, etc territories and were assimilated there as they lost their Igbo language to indigenous people they met there. This is what happened to many Igbos in Ijawland, Isoko , Igala, Idoma, etc.

This is the way of human history. Today many Nigerians, Arabs, Africans are migrating to Germany. When they get there, they will have to learn German language and culture and their children will become fully assimilated as ethnic Germans. It will be wrong for descendants of such migrants to come out tomorrow and start telling Germans that they founded German towns and that Germans are not a homogeneous people.
This is the case of Bini migrants in Anioma, Igala migrants in Northern Enugu and Anambra and few Ijaw and Ibibio people in Ndoki. They were assimilated and acculturated as Igbos by Igbo they met there.

Igbo is not a FRANCHISE. To be accepted as Igbo, you must speak Igbo as your first language and mother tongue.
This is not the case with Ijaw.

Ogbia, Eastern Obolo,Ibeno, Abua, Andoni, all speak Cross River language in same language grouping as Ibibio/Efik/Ananng cluster, yet Ijaw claim them.

Engenni, Epie/Atissa,Udekeme are all Edoid speakers, yet Ijaw claim them.

Opobo town, Bonny town all speak Igbo, yet Ijaw claim them.

I have never heard of an Ethnic group having people speaking diverse languages not even belonging to same language grouping.

Such fraud only happens in a Fraudulent country like Nigeria as represented by the Hausa-Fulani and Ijaw FRANCHISE.

Keep schooling d ignorant yoruba fooOoooOoooOOOoooooL

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by ijawcitizen(m): 11:58pm On Jan 06, 2021
pazienza:


Ohanaeze conduct business in Igbo and English. But every Igbo man understands Igbo language.
Keep lying to yourself
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/why-we-dont-speak-igbo-at-our-meetings-ohanaeze/

https://www.nairaland.com/2714843/why-dont-speak-igbo-meetings-ohaneze

The stories of Bini, Igala and etc founding Igbo speaking towns are fables and senseless.
Take it easy igbo revisionist, Azikiwe stated it clearly in his biography. I have details of several interviews conducted with traditional rulers of some so called 'igbo communities' with Igala origin.

Olukunmi people in aniocha must be lying while a crooked igbo revisionist like you must be telling the truth.

Arochukwu which the igbos robbed from Ibibio in broad daylight must be of igbo origin according to your crooked and malicious igbo revisionism.

The tail don't wag the dog. Sure enough, many Igala, Ijaw and Bini people in the past wandered into Igbo speaking territories in that past and were assimilated as Igbos by overwhelming indigenous Igbo population they met on ground. In same manner many Igbo migrated into Igala, Bini, Ijaw,Idoma, etc territories and were assimilated there as they lost their Igbo language to indigenous people they met there. This is what happened to many Igbos in Ijawland, Isoko , Igala, Idoma, etc.

This is not about assimilation of people who wandered into 'igbo territory,' what you igbos are known for is a systemic take over of other people's territory.

Ibibio fell victim in what is now dubiously renamed Arochukwu, Ikwerre were your latest victims until they terminated the igbo strangulation and asphyxiative assimilation at 70% completion.

So many communities in the igbo FRANCHISE today were territories of neighbouring ethnic groups.

Again, your philosophy has always been that other ethnic nationals who found their way into Igboland or whose lands were systematically claimed as igbo franchise REMAINS IGBO, while igbos who found their way into other people's territory MAKES IGBOS STAKEHOLDERS in the affairs those people.

This is the way of human history. Today many Nigerians, Arabs, Africans are migrating to Germany. When they get there, they will have to learn German language and culture and their children will become fully assimilated as ethnic Germans. It will be wrong for descendants of such migrants to come out tomorrow and start telling Germans that they founded German towns and that Germans are not a homogeneous people.
I can't believe this crooked igbo revisionist who writes trash about Ijawland because we absorbed few igbos we BOUGHT as slaves wrote this!! Is this not the very crime of senseless revisionism you are known for on nairaland?


This is the case of Bini migrants in Anioma, Igala migrants in Northern Enugu and Anambra and few Ijaw and Ibibio people in Ndoki. They were assimilated and acculturated as Igbos by Igbo they met there.
A very poor attempt at your normal infantile igbo revisionism. Ndoki is an Ijaw word, many Ndoki towns still bear their original Ijaw names except those founded by igbo migrants in Ndokiland.

Igbo is not a FRANCHISE. To be accepted as Igbo, you must speak Igbo as your first language and mother tongue.
This is where your crude, unrefined and densely ignorant nature becomes so clear for the world to see.

Speaking a language is not the sole criteria for being a member of an ethnic group. The concept of ethnic group has to do with ANCESTRY tied to a TERRITORY.


This is not the case with Ijaw.

Ogbia, Eastern Obolo,Ibeno, Abua, Andoni, all speak Cross River language in same language grouping as Ibibio/Efik/Ananng cluster, yet Ijaw claim them.

Engenni, Epie/Atissa,Udekeme are all Edoid speakers, yet Ijaw claim them.

Opobo town, Bonny town all speak Igbo, yet Ijaw claim them.
You left out Apoi-Ijaw in Ondo state that speaks a Yoruboid language, Kiagbodo (E.K Clarks community), Ofoni, Oduburu etc that speaks Urhobo language. I believe you also missed Kantu and Odidi in Gbaramatu that speaks Itsekiri...Do you need more references?

I bet your tiny ignorant igbo expansionist cum revisionist brain is not equipped enough to understand that these places (both native People & Land) are all tied by Ijaw ancestry, the basic ingredients that defines an ETHNIC NATIONALITY something your dubious IGBO FRANCHISE lack.

They all acknowledge and profess their Ijaw Ancestry, something no amount of your malicious revisionism can change.

I have never heard of an Ethnic group having people speaking diverse languages not even belonging to same language grouping.

Such fraud only happens in a Fraudulent country like Nigeria as represented by the Hausa-Fulani and Ijaw FRANCHISE.
The confession and self indictments of a very crooked and ignorant revisionist. Obviously, speaking igbo is the only criterion for being a member of the igbo franchise masquerading as an ethnic group, so your tiny brain dictates that it must be same for everyone else...how shallow!

It is called ETHNIC MULTILINGUALISM, one of the unique and prominent feature of the Ijaw ethnic nationality which attests to our liberal and accommodating nature.

Just so you know, MULTILINGUALISM exists somewhere in your igbo FRANCHISE, a community of Idoma ancestry currently falsely portrayed as a part of a dubious ancestrally disjointed FRANCHISE called 'Igboland' in IGBO-EZE lga.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ajol.info/index.php/mjas/article/view/118497/108028&ved=2ahUKEwi2vdferojuAhXMYcAKHWmyA-gQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2KQE-PGxbaUih8bddIDhPS
Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by Nobody: 8:30am On Jan 07, 2021
ijawcitizen:
Keep lying to yourself
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/why-we-dont-speak-igbo-at-our-meetings-ohanaeze/

https://www.nairaland.com/2714843/why-dont-speak-igbo-meetings-ohaneze
Take it easy igbo revisionist, Azikiwe stated it clearly in his biography. I have details of several interviews conducted with traditional rulers of some so called 'igbo communities' with Igala origin.

Olukunmi people in aniocha must be lying while a crooked igbo revisionist like you must be telling the truth.

Arochukwu which the igbos robbed from Ibibio in broad daylight must be of igbo origin according to your crooked and malicious igbo revisionism.



This is not about assimilation of people who wandered into 'igbo territory,' what you igbos are known for is a systemic take over of other people's territory.

Ibibio fell victim in what is now dubiously renamed Arochukwu, Ikwerre were your latest victims until they terminated the igbo strangulation and asphyxiative assimilation at 70% completion.

So many communities in the igbo FRANCHISE today were territories of neighbouring ethnic groups.

Again, your philosophy has always been that other ethnic nationals who found their way into Igboland or whose lands were systematically claimed as igbo franchise REMAINS IGBO, while igbos who found their way into other people's territory MAKES IGBOS STAKEHOLDERS in the affairs those people.

I can't believe this crooked igbo revisionist who writes trash about Ijawland because we absorbed few igbos we BOUGHT as slaves wrote this!! Is this not the very crime of senseless revisionism you are known for on nairaland?

A very poor attempt at your normal infantile igbo revisionism. Ndoki is an Ijaw word, many Ndoki towns still bear their original Ijaw names except those founded by igbo migrants in Ndokiland.

This is where your crude, unrefined and densely ignorant nature becomes so clear for the world to see.

Speaking a language is not the sole criteria for being a member of an ethnic group. The concept of ethnic group has to do with ANCESTRY tied to a TERRITORY.


You left out Apoi-Ijaw in Ondo state that speaks a Yoruboid language, Kiagbodo (E.K Clarks community), Ofoni, Oduburu etc that speaks Urhobo language. I believe you also missed Kantu and Odidi in Gbaramatu that speaks Itsekiri...Do you need more references?

I bet your tiny ignorant igbo expansionist cum revisionist brain is not equipped enough to understand that these places (both native People & Land) are all tied by Ijaw ancestry, the basic ingredients that defines an ETHNIC NATIONALITY something your dubious IGBO FRANCHISE lack.

They all acknowledge and profess their Ijaw Ancestry, something no amount of your malicious revisionism can change.

The confession and self indictments of a very crooked and ignorant revisionist. Obviously, speaking igbo is the only criterion for being a member of the igbo franchise masquerading as an ethnic group, so your tiny brain dictates that it must be same for everyone else...how shallow!

It is called ETHNIC MULTILINGUALISM, one of the unique and prominent feature of the Ijaw ethnic nationality which attests to our liberal and accommodating nature.

Just so you know, MULTILINGUALISM exists somewhere in your igbo FRANCHISE, a community of Idoma ancestry currently falsely portrayed as a part of a dubious ancestrally disjointed FRANCHISE called 'Igboland' in IGBO-EZE lga.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ajol.info/index.php/mjas/article/view/118497/108028&ved=2ahUKEwi2vdferojuAhXMYcAKHWmyA-gQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2KQE-PGxbaUih8bddIDhPS


Show proof that arochukwu are ibibios and not igbo.

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by pazienza(m): 12:29pm On Jan 07, 2021
=ijawcitizen
Keep lying to yourself
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/why-we-dont-speak-igbo-at-our-meetings-ohanaeze/

“Onoh spoke at length and most people did not understand what he was saying. Every other person spoke his own dialect and at the end, nobody spoke Igbo again at Ohanaeze because none of us understood one another’s dialect,” he said.


I doubt you went through the news article you posted.
Every Igbo understand Igbo central language and not all Igbo dialects.
This is expected in every real ethnic group. Germans in Germany struggle to understand Swiss Germans, hence the use of "Hochdeutsch"( centralized German), when Germans from Swiss land and different states of German want to interact.
I liked Uyo Meyo by Teni and asked my Yoruba friend to interpret the song for. Surprisingly she couldn't, reason being that she sang it in " Ondo town" dialect and not in Central Yoruba dialect.

Ohanaeze Ndiigbo chieftain speaking there is stupid. How exactly can Igbos start speaking to each other in dialects and not central Igbo and expect to understand each other immediately? Even the English dialects spoken in different parts of England would be hard for a Londoner to understand without exposure.

When I meet Igbos outside Igboland , we converse in Central Igbo. Igbos in Onitsha, Enugu, Owerri, Aba , etc converse not in their individual dialects but in central Igbo. This is how it is for any real ethnic.


Take it easy igbo revisionist, Azikiwe stated it clearly in his biography. I have details of several interviews conducted with traditional rulers of some so called 'igbo communities' with Igala origin.

The idea of Igbo speaking towns with Igala origin is a historical fabrication. What we have are Igbo speaking towns that welcomed Igala migrants in their midsts and subsequently acculturated the Igala migrants into Igbo speaking people. Or in case of Nzam, we have indigenous Igbo speaking town that was invaded by an Igala warlord, but was later recovered back by Igbo indigenes who magnanimously integrated the Igala invaders into the town.
Zik is not a historian and the story of Onitsha being from Bini had since been reviewed and corrected by current Obi of Onitsha.


Olukunmi people in aniocha must be lying while a crooked igbo revisionist like you must be telling the truth.

Olukumi history has been recently reviewed as well. Modern story is that they were Yoruboid people(soldiers) from Owo who were part of Oba Bini imperialism campaign in Anioma. They lost the battle and refused to return to the Oba for fear of being killed. Western Igbos gave them land to live and gave them their daughters to marry. Many western Igbos also joined their settlement to swell it up.
Such is the history of humans.



Arochukwu which the igbos robbed from Ibibio in broad daylight must be of igbo origin according to your crooked and malicious igbo revisionism.

How exactly?
Arochukwu was a coalition of Igbo with non Igbo Akpa soldiers and few Ibibios. Thereafter, the non Igbos were fully assimilated by the Igbos who were the overwhelming majority of the coalition.
What revisionism is there?






This is not about assimilation of people who wandered into 'igbo territory,' what you igbos are known for is a systemic take over of other people's territory.

No such takeover happened outside Arochukwu. Arochukwu was an exception and not the rule. Ndiigbo lost few villages to the Annang and Ibibios too. There are few Ananngs who are descendants of assimilated Igbos whose lands were conquered by Annangs, especially at the borders. You see Igbo names like Okoro etc borne by such families.


Ibibio fell victim in what is now dubiously renamed Arochukwu, Ikwerre were your latest victims until they terminated the igbo strangulation and asphyxiative assimilation at 70% completion.

You obviously blabbing here. Ikwerre speaks Igbo dialect as mother tongue and regardless of what they want to be called. That will not Change. At no time did Ndiigbo conquer Ikwerre People. The case of Ikwerre is akin to the case of the popular black lady who said she feels white inside of her and that she wish to be regarded as white and not black. Of course, you have to respect her wish to be regarded as white, but that will not change the fact that her physical attributes are that of black.


So many communities in the igbo FRANCHISE today were territories of neighbouring ethnic groups.

Igbos must be super humans to make non Igbo speaking people to drop their mother language for Igbo related one. Something even super powers like France,Spain, Britain couldn't achieve.
Wow! I feel super human already! kiss

Again, your philosophy has always been that other ethnic nationals who found their way into Igboland or whose lands were systematically claimed as igbo franchise REMAINS IGBO, while igbos who found their way into other people's territory MAKES IGBOS STAKEHOLDERS in the affairs those people.

Ndiigbo have never claimed any none Igboland before. We were not expansionism driven people which is why our land is small today relative to our population size. Arochukwu was the exception not the rule. We were never empire builders. This is why we have high population. Wars cost lives and deplete population.
If you find your way into Igbo land in the past, you MUST assimilate as Igbo or leave. Its a natural law, which is why you are required to pass IELTS before migration to UK, Canada, or Australia, and must pass French language exams or German language exams before migration to France or Germany. You don't go to a new country and keep your language intact. You must learn their language to become part of them.

Every nation on earth welcomed strangers at different points in history. Igbo land was not different.

I can't believe this crooked igbo revisionist who writes trash about Ijawland because we absorbed few igbos we BOUGHT as slaves wrote this!! Is this not the very crime of senseless revisionism you are known for on nairaland?

The Igbos in your midst are not all Slaves. Many are your over lords, like the EdiAbali dynasty who ruled you. In situation where the Igbos outnumbered you, the language of the town changed to Igbo to reflect the language of the dominant group. This is what happened to Opobo town.

There is no Ijawland. Ijaw is a conglomerate of distinct unrelated ethnic minorities with independent languages unrelated to each other. This is not same as real ethnic group having related dialects that possess a degree of difficulty for some of the outlying dialects to be fully understood by others.


Ndoki means "Ndi Oki" or "Anyi Ado ke " (what are we dragging about).
Name came about when different constituent clans that formed Ndoki decided to stop the fight amongst themselves and unite.
The biggest Ndoki clan is the "Ikwu-Orie-Ato clan and the Patriarch of the clan is a man called Nwankwo Eze aka Kwokwoeze. The chief town is Azumini( back of river). Does any of these foundational words and Names in Ndoki history sound Ijaw to you? You see how shameless you are? By relegating language as the major pointer to common ancient origin, you dubious Ijaw Franchise runners have created a loophole that will allow you to claim whatever group you want regardless of the distinct language of such group. This is why Ijaw is a FRANCHISE and not a REAL ethnic group.



This is where your crude, unrefined and densely ignorant nature becomes so clear for the world to see.

Speaking a language is not the sole criteria for being a member of an ethnic group. The concept of ethnic group has to do with ANCESTRY tied to a TERRITORY.

Ancestral lines can be fabricated and distorted. Anyone can claim anything. Some Igbos believe they are descendants of Israelis and had since created distorted ancestral stories to buttress that.
But language is the greatest marker of ancestral relationship, especially when there is no colonial force at play.
A people culture, beliefs, religion are all preserved by their language. Language is the greatest single marker of ancestral relationship when no documented history can be assessed.

An ethnic group must have a SINGLE language with each region speaking dialects of that language. Anything other than this is fraudulent. Ijaw ethnic group is fraudulent just like Hausa-Fulani ethnic group.

You left out Apoi-Ijaw in Ondo state that speaks a Yoruboid language, Kiagbodo (E.K Clarks community), Ofoni, Oduburu etc that speaks Urhobo language. I believe you also missed Kantu and Odidi in Gbaramatu that speaks Itsekiri...Do you need more references?

Apoi-Ijaw in Ondo are not speaking Ijaw because they didn't meet the land empty. They met aboriginal Yorubas there (Ilajes) who they intermarried with and their Yoruba wives taught their children Yoruba and probably invited their own Yoruba brothers to live with their husbands to provide security.
So in the end , the community maintained Ijaw origin of the Ijaw migrants, but the overwhelming population of the Ilaje women and their brothers they brought in ensured the town became Yoruba speaking because in truth they have more Yoruba make up than Ijaw make up. A DNA result will prove this.
This is same thing that happened to Kiagbodo and Ofoni.
The head of the family claim Ijaw, so the village retained Ijaw origin, but careful analysis will reveal that majority of the commoners were of Urhobo origin including the wives of the Ijaws, yet to maintain unity in the town, everyone accepts Ijaw origin of the town leader. A DNA analysis of Population of Kiagbodo and Ofoni people would show higher percentage of Urhobo ancestry than Ijaw .
When two languages and culture meet, the language and culture with greater number of people using them usually wins. Unless external force was applied to alter this natural course of events.


I bet your tiny ignorant igbo expansionist cum revisionist brain is not equipped enough to understand that these places (both native People & Land) are all tied by Ijaw ancestry, the basic ingredients that defines an ETHNIC NATIONALITY something your dubious IGBO FRANCHISE lack.

In the absence of a documented history. Ancestral stories becomes fables that can easily be doctored to reflect a people political aspirations at any given point in time.

Language however remain objective as a preserver of customs, norms, beliefs and ancestral relationship between groups of people.
I will always choose language over politically doctored origin/ancestral stories.


They all acknowledge and profess their Ijaw Ancestry, something no amount of your malicious revisionism can change.

They do so because it is politically expedient to do so.
The language being an objective measure of ancestral relationship will continue to expose them.
No matter how strong Hausa and Fulani political union in Nigeria has become over the century, no matter how they claim to be one in Islam and ways of life. Their distinct languages will also expose the union as an artificial creation.
Same is applicable to the Ijaw FRANCHISE.

The confession and self indictments of a very crooked and ignorant revisionist. Obviously, speaking igbo is the only criterion for being a member of the igbo franchise masquerading as an ethnic group, so your tiny brain dictates that it must be same for everyone else...how shallow!

Igbo is a REAL ethnic group. All clans speak dialects related to each other. That's how it works all over the world. The rule can not be broken to satisfy the need and want of fraudulent Ijaw FRANCHISE.
In Germany they have ethnic Slavs indigenous to some places there. They are Germans by nationality but not by ethnicity. An ethnic group MUST have common language.

Just so you know, MULTILINGUALISM exists somewhere in your igbo FRANCHISE, a community of Idoma ancestry currently falsely portrayed as a part of a dubious ancestrally disjointed FRANCHISE called 'Igboland' in IGBO-EZE lga.

Any Igbo speaking group in Igboland claiming non Igbo origin is propagating a fabricated story.
If there are Idomas there, then its common sense they met aboriginal Igbos on ground who assimilated them and made them to become Igbo speaking. The language of the dominant group always wins and the rest MUST assimilate.

The only Idoma people we have in South East are in Ette town in Igbo Eze Enugu. And they share the town with Igbo aboriginal of the town and with Igala migrants who live there too.
We don't claim the Idoma and Igala in Ette as Igbos.
We maintain they are migrants in Igboland .

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by ijawcitizen(m): 8:19pm On Jan 07, 2021
pazienza:
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“Onoh spoke at length and most people did not understand what he was saying. Every other person spoke his own dialect and at the end, nobody spoke Igbo again at Ohanaeze because none of us understood one another’s dialect,” he said.


I doubt you went through the news article you posted.
Every Igbo understand Igbo central language and not all Igbo dialects.
This is expected in every real ethnic group. Germans in Germany struggle to understand Swiss Germans, hence the use of "Hochdeutsch"( centralized German), when Germans from Swiss land and different states of German want to interact.
I liked Uyo Meyo by Teni and asked my Yoruba friend to interpret the song for. Surprisingly she couldn't, reason being that she sang it in " Ondo town" dialect and not in Central Yoruba dialect.

Ohanaeze Ndiigbo chieftain speaking there is stupid. How exactly can Igbos start speaking to each other in dialects and not central Igbo and expect to understand each other immediately? Even the English dialects spoken in different parts of England would be hard for a Londoner to understand without exposure.

When I meet Igbos outside Igboland , we converse in Central Igbo. Igbos in Onitsha, Enugu, Owerri, Aba , etc converse not in their individual dialects but in central Igbo. This is how it is for any real ethnic.




The idea of Igbo speaking towns with Igala origin is a historical fabrication. What we have are Igbo speaking towns that welcomed Igala migrants in their midsts and subsequently acculturated the Igala migrants into Igbo speaking people. Or in case of Nzam, we have indigenous Igbo speaking town that was invaded by an Igala warlord, but was later recovered back by Igbo indigenes who magnanimously integrated the Igala invaders into the town.
Zik is not a historian and the story of Onitsha being from Bini had since been reviewed and corrected by current Obi of Onitsha.



Olukumi history has been recently reviewed as well. Modern story is that they were Yoruboid people(soldiers) from Owo who were part of Oba Bini imperialism campaign in Anioma. They lost the battle and refused to return to the Oba for fear of being killed. Western Igbos gave them land to live and gave them their daughters to marry. Many western Igbos also joined their settlement to swell it up.
Such is the history of humans.




How exactly?
Arochukwu was a coalition of Igbo with non Igbo Akpa soldiers and few Ibibios. Thereafter, the non Igbos were fully assimilated by the Igbos who were the overwhelming majority of the coalition.
What revisionism is there?







No such takeover happened outside Arochukwu. Arochukwu was an exception and not the rule. Ndiigbo lost few villages to the Annang and Ibibios too. There are few Ananngs who are descendants of assimilated Igbos whose lands were conquered by Annangs, especially at the borders. You see Igbo names like Okoro etc borne by such families.



You obviously blabbing here. Ikwerre speaks Igbo dialect as mother tongue and regardless of what they want to be called. That will not Change. At no time did Ndiigbo conquer Ikwerre People. The case of Ikwerre is akin to the case of the popular black lady who said she feels white inside of her and that she wish to be regarded as white and not black. Of course, you have to respect her wish to be regarded as white, but that will not change the fact that her physical attributes are that of black.



Igbos must be super humans to make non Igbo speaking people to drop their mother language for Igbo related one. Something even super powers like France,Spain, Britain couldn't achieve.
Wow! I feel super human already! kiss



Ndiigbo have never claimed any none Igboland before. We were not expansionism driven people which is why our land is small today relative to our population size. Arochukwu was the exception not the rule. We were never empire builders. This is why we have high population. Wars cost lives and deplete population.
If you find your way into Igbo land in the past, you MUST assimilate as Igbo or leave. Its a natural law, which is why you are required to pass IELTS before migration to UK, Canada, or Australia, and must pass French language exams or German language exams before migration to France or Germany. You don't go to a new country and keep your language intact. You must learn their language to become part of them.

Every nation on earth welcomed strangers at different points in history. Igbo land was not different.



The Igbos in your midst are not all Slaves. Many are your over lords, like the EdiAbali dynasty who ruled you. In situation where the Igbos outnumbered you, the language of the town changed to Igbo to reflect the language of the dominant group. This is what happened to Opobo town.

There is no Ijawland. Ijaw is a conglomerate of distinct unrelated ethnic minorities with independent languages unrelated to each other. This is not same as real ethnic group having related dialects that possess a degree of difficulty for some of the outlying dialects to be fully understood by others.


Ndoki means "Ndi Oki" or "Anyi Ado ke " (what are we dragging about).
Name came about when different constituent clans that formed Ndoki decided to stop the fight amongst themselves and unite.
The biggest Ndoki clan is the "Ikwu-Orie-Ato clan and the Patriarch of the clan is a man called Nwankwo Eze aka Kwokwoeze. The chief town is Azumini( back of river). Does any of these foundational words and Names in Ndoki history sound Ijaw to you? You see how shameless you are? By relegating language as the major pointer to common ancient origin, you dubious Ijaw Franchise runners have created a loophole that will allow you to claim whatever group you want regardless of the distinct language of such group. This is why Ijaw is a FRANCHISE and not a REAL ethnic group.




Ancestral lines can be fabricated and distorted. Anyone can claim anything. Some Igbos believe they are descendants of Israelis and had since created distorted ancestral stories to buttress that.
But language is the greatest marker of ancestral relationship, especially when there is no colonial force at play.
A people culture, beliefs, religion are all preserved by their language. Language is the greatest single marker of ancestral relationship when no documented history can be assessed.

An ethnic group must have a SINGLE language with each region speaking dialects of that language. Anything other than this is fraudulent. Ijaw ethnic group is fraudulent just like Hausa-Fulani ethnic group.



Apoi-Ijaw in Ondo are not speaking Ijaw because they didn't meet the land empty. They met aboriginal Yorubas there (Ilajes) who they intermarried with and their Yoruba wives taught their children Yoruba and probably invited their own Yoruba brothers to live with their husbands to provide security.
So in the end , the community maintained Ijaw origin of the Ijaw migrants, but the overwhelming population of the Ilaje women and their brothers they brought in ensured the town became Yoruba speaking because in truth they have more Yoruba make up than Ijaw make up. A DNA result will prove this.
This is same thing that happened to Kiagbodo and Ofoni.
The head of the family claim Ijaw, so the village retained Ijaw origin, but careful analysis will reveal that majority of the commoners were of Urhobo origin including the wives of the Ijaws, yet to maintain unity in the town, everyone accepts Ijaw origin of the town leader. A DNA analysis of Population of Kiagbodo and Ofoni people would show higher percentage of Urhobo ancestry than Ijaw .
When two languages and culture meet, the language and culture with greater number of people using them usually wins. Unless external force was applied to alter this natural course of events.



In the absence of a documented history. Ancestral stories becomes fables that can easily be doctored to reflect a people political aspirations at any given point in time.

Language however remain objective as a preserver of customs, norms, beliefs and ancestral relationship between groups of people.
I will always choose language over politically doctored origin/ancestral stories.



They do so because it is politically expedient to do so.
The language being an objective measure of ancestral relationship will continue to expose them.
No matter how strong Hausa and Fulani political union in Nigeria has become over the century, no matter how they claim to be one in Islam and ways of life. Their distinct languages will also expose the union as an artificial creation.
Same is applicable to the Ijaw FRANCHISE.



Igbo is a REAL ethnic group. All clans speak dialects related to each other. That's how it works all over the world. The rule can not be broken to satisfy the need and want of fraudulent Ijaw FRANCHISE.
In Germany they have ethnic Slavs indigenous to some places there. They are Germans by nationality but not by ethnicity. An ethnic group MUST have common language.



Any Igbo speaking group in Igboland claiming non Igbo origin is propagating a fabricated story.
If there are Idomas there, then its common sense they met aboriginal Igbos on ground who assimilated them and made them to become Igbo speaking. The language of the dominant group always wins and the rest MUST assimilate.

The only Idoma people we have in South East are in Ette town in Igbo Eze Enugu. And they share the town with Igbo aboriginal of the town and with Igala migrants who live there too.
We don't claim the Idoma and Igala in Ette as Igbos.
We maintain they are migrants in Igboland [/s]

Absolute rubbish.
You need rehabilitation
Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by FLESHnBLOOD(m): 2:13am On Jan 08, 2021
See two Intelligent men schooling each other.. On who is igbo and who is not igbo.. grin Igbo kewnu.. From my on opinion and observations My igbo brother is right. You can't teach an intelligent igbo man his own cultural history lol.

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by Nobody: 9:48pm On Jan 08, 2021
ijawcitizen:


Absolute rubbish.
You need rehabilitation

U have mental problem Mr Tonye Barcanista...

Dem floor u, u begin type nansense.

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Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by ijawcitizen(m): 10:39am On Jan 09, 2021
Logan23:


U have mental problem Mr Tonye Barcanista...

Dem floor u, u begin type nansense.

Since you can't distinguish between reality and your drug-induced hallucinations, I hope this helps.

Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by Nobody: 11:15am On Jan 09, 2021
ijawcitizen:


Since you can't distinguish between reality and your drug-induced hallucinations, I hope this helps.


Ijawcitizen using his Barcanista account to reply himself grin grin grin....U must be silly to throw in this nansense, We know u very well Mr scammer. U are TonyeBarcanista and we equally know u have plenty nairaland accounts...no one takes u serious. cheesy cheesy
Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by ijawcitizen(m): 5:22pm On Jan 12, 2021

The idea of Igbo speaking towns with Igala origin is a historical fabrication. What we have are Igbo speaking towns that welcomed Igala migrants in their midsts and subsequently acculturated the Igala migrants into Igbo speaking people.



Any Igbo speaking group in Igboland claiming non Igbo origin is propagating a fabricated story.
If there are Idomas there, then its common sense they met aboriginal Igbos on ground who assimilated them and made them to become Igbo speaking. The language of the dominant group always wins and the rest MUST assimilate.

The only Idoma people we have in South East are in Ette town in Igbo Eze Enugu. And they share the town with Igbo aboriginal of the town and with Igala migrants who live there too.
We don't claim the Idoma and Igala in Ette as Igbos.
We maintain they are migrants in Igboland .

Pazienza
Is this man an igbo or Igala?

Re: UMUJA: Check Out An Entire Village With NO MAN! by pazienza(m): 5:38pm On Jan 12, 2021
ijawcitizen:


Pazienza
Is this man an igbo or Igala?

Look at his name nah .
He has been fully assimilated as Igbo.

If for any reason he still likes Igala. He can migrate back to Iddah.

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