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Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:13pm On Jan 12
It's like you know the meaning so can you mention one single Bible verse that plainly supports it? smiley

YouAreFinished:

Like they even knew what is called pedophilia.
Mention one single bible verse that plainly condemns it?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by YouAreFinished: 12:23pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
It's like you know the meaning so can you mention one single Bible verse that plainly supports it? smiley

I was the one who asked you a question,of course you couldn't find any condemnation of pedophilia in your bible.
Anyways:
Bible verses supporting pedophilia:
Numbers 31:1-18
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Judges 21:7-11
Judges 21:20-23
Exodus 21:7-10

Bible verses condemning pedophilia:
None

What was the age of Mary when she got married and also, impregnated by your god?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:37pm On Jan 12
The highlighted is where you missed it Sir, because pedophilia is about an adult and underage. So do you remember the age of any female that was sexually molested and approved by God? smiley

Well God's word said a female may choose any man of her choice in the Christian congregation and before they're pronounced man and wife the parents of the bride must give their consent, definitely she must be nubile before that could happen! smiley

So if the society we live in today decides to set standards for such it doesn't mean you can now start blaming past generations when you don't even know the age at which they were given into marriage back then! smiley

And as for Mary, she's an adult already otherwise her family won't give their consent for her to marry Joseph! smiley


YouAreFinished:

I was the one who asked you a question,of course you couldn't find any condemnation of pedophilia in your bible.
Anyways:
Bible verses supporting pedophilia:
Numbers 31:1-18
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Judges 21:7-11
Judges 21:20-23
Exodus 21:7-10

Bible verses condemning pedophilia:
None

What was the age of Mary when she got married and also, impregnated by your god?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by chieveboy(m): 12:46pm On Jan 12
The5DME:
This sounds interesting. I heard you're into Eckankar?

Yup!
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by YouAreFinished: 12:57pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
[s]The highlighted is where you missed it Sir, because pedophilia is about an adult and underage. So do you remember the age of any female that was sexually molested and approved by God? smiley
Oh,I don't know what pedophilia is so you have to define it undecided
Do you even check the verses I wrote down!
Even if the bible didn't order pedophilia, marrying children was common then,it should have at least condemned the act...it didn't because it found nothing wrong with it,and that is approval.

MaxInDHouse:

Well God's word said a female may choose any man of her choice in the Christian congregation and before they're pronounced man and wife the parents of the bride must give their consent, definitely she must be nubile before that could happen! smiley
I don't understand your logic here? How does this have to do with condemning pedophilia?

MaxInDHouse:

So if the society we live in today decides to set standards for such it doesn't mean you can now start blaming past generations when you don't even know the age at which they were given into marriage back then! smiley

And as for Mary, she's an adult already otherwise her family won't give their consent for her to marry Joseph! smiley
According to xtian traditions,Mary was 12 years old.
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:23pm On Jan 12
YouAreFinished:

Oh,I don't know what pedophilia is so you have to define it undecided
Do you even check the verses I wrote down!
Even if the bible didn't order pedophilia, marrying children was common then,it should have at least condemned the act...it didn't because it found nothing wrong with it,and that is approval.
The word pedophilia is not found written in the Bible so we have to use our own brain to grasp if it was approved or not in ancient times.
Whenever the Bible mention children it's peculiar to those who are still under their parents or guardians, a virgin of 28 years is still within that category so we need to reason intelligently.

I don't understand your logic here? How does this have to do with condemning pedophilia?
The logic is when your own daughter walk up to you and say "dad, i've a guy with whom i'll love to spend the rest of my life" please let us try to imagine your daughter's age before she can boldly utter such to you face to face? smiley


According to xtian traditions,Mary was 12 years old.
You said it all "Xtian tradition" which means you're following what you were taught not what the author wrote, so why blame the author? undecided
For your information, there are billions of misinformed religionists out there claiming Christians, it's been taught for centuries that the boy Jesus was born on 25th of December but i'm sure you know better today so don't be surprised that their tradition has nothing to do with God's word!

Thank you! smiley
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 1:25pm On Jan 12
haddeylium:
What makes you think People that are attracted are confused?
You need to calm done, then go back to re-read the comment you are responding to with the "What makes you think People that are attracted are confused?" invalid question angry angry angry

haddeylium:
What if both creature are happy, harmless, love each other and enjoy each other company ? (With the rest of your stories)
Smh sigh. Are those animals capable of verbally consenting to human beings that they are happy, harmless, love to and enjoy having sexual intercourse and/or relationship with human beings until death do part them, hmm?

haddeylium:
God's word said
Leviticus 18;
22Thou(Male) shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast(Animal)


God's word said Sexual relation between the same sex is not allowed and with Animal.
Do not make the mistake of reading a bible verse in isolation or solitarily, as if the single verse exist just on its own lmso.

1/ Why specifically is a man lying with mankind, as with womankind in Leviticus 18:22, declared to be an abomination?
2/ Why specifically is a woman lying with womankind, as with mankind, not reference in Leviticus 18:22, and also not declared to be an abomination?
3/ What is the setting, situation on ground, the background et cetera, for God's word to say sexual relation between the same male sex, is not allowed?

haddeylium:
But someone you think those that disregard his laws on Verse 23 are confused humans ...Why?
Smh sigh. You are a confused and lost case

haddeylium:
You see how the picture you attached exposed your ignorance.
That God's condemn some sexual relation among the opposite sex . Would you asked if they're happy?
Why can't an adult and a teen of the opposite sex engage in this act if they both consented and are happy? THINK!
You have comprehension problems. Do you at all understand what the red strikeout X marks means, lmso?

haddeylium:
God's sexual relation pattern is Between an Adult male(Adam) and Adult female(Female).
God's procreation relation pattern is a given, between a male (i.e. Adam) and female (i.e. Eve)

haddeylium:
The others you working in is the inclination of your heart to sexual immorality.
Peace
Specify exactly what the sexual immorality is between two easy going, innocent, harmless, ordinary consenting God believing adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful to each other, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, loving each other?

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Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by The5DME(f): 1:26pm On Jan 12
chieveboy:


Yup!
W
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 1:30pm On Jan 12
The5DME:
When I leave home for Uni, I'm definitely gonna explore Eckankar.
Yeah, good idea if you are ready to jump from the frying pan into the fire place, lmso
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by The5DME(f): 1:34pm On Jan 12
MuttleyLaff:
Yeah, good idea if you are ready to jump from the frying pan into the fire place, lmso
Never quote me again. Thank you.
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 1:42pm On Jan 12
The5DME:
Never quote me again. Thank you.
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by haddeylium(m): 1:42pm On Jan 12
MuttleyLaff:


1/ Why specifically is a man lying with mankind, as with womankind in Leviticus 18:22, declared to be an abomination?
2/ Why specifically is a woman lying with womankind, as with mankind, not reference in Leviticus 18:22, and also not declared to be an abomination?
3/ What is the setting, situation on ground, the background et cetera, for God's word to say sexual relation between the same male sex, is not allowed?


Length words and not a single point. You didn't disappoint me cheesy

God's word said sexual relation between a Male and a Male is forbidden Verse 22( A Man should not lie)
Sexual relation between a Man and animal is not allowed ( A man should not lie ) verse 23
But mutteylaff wants to know the background and settings for God's disapproval of homosexuality and Bestiality.

Joker!
I don't have your time jare. let someone that can give you the background and settings of all sexual immorality and fornications God condemns attends to you

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Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 1:51pm On Jan 12
haddeylium:
Length words and not a single point. You didn't disappoint me cheesy
If you want to hide something from someone suffering from a short attention span, microwave, fast food syndrome, put it in lengthy words or a book!

haddeylium:
God's word said sexual relation between a Male and a Make is forbidden Verse 22( A Man should not lie)
Sexual relation between a Man and animal is not allowed ( A man should not lie ) verse 23
But mutteylaff wants to know the background and settings for God's disapproval of homosexuality and Bestiality.

Joker!
I don't have your time jare. let someone that can give you the background and settings of all sexual immorality and fornications God condemns attends to you
If you can't explain the background and settings for God's disapproval of the homosexuality mentioned in Leviticus 18:22 simply, plainly and convingingly then it shows you don't understand the verse Leviticus 18:22 at all and well enough.

Scroll up to recheck my comment and see that bestiality is a complete no contest, no, no.
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:53pm On Jan 12
Do you notice how the OP specifically asked him to stop mentioning him? cheesy
Muttleylaff wants to condemn the Eckankar yet he wants homosexuality to be approved! cheesy
That's why i always tell him to go out there and PREACH what he knows, after all he knows what is right (homosexuality) and what is evil (Eckankar) at least that's enough to establish a Bible study out there! cheesy

haddeylium:

Length words and not a single point. You didn't disappoint me cheesy
God's word said sexual relation between a Male and a Male is forbidden Verse 22( A Man should not lie)
Sexual relation between a Man and animal is not allowed ( A man should not lie ) verse 23
But mutteylaff wants to know the background and settings for God's disapproval of homosexuality and Bestiality.
Joker!
I don't have your time jare. let someone that can give you the background and settings of all sexual immorality and fornications God condemns attends to you
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 2:03pm On Jan 12
The5DME:
When I leave home for Uni, I'm definitely gonna explore Eckankar.

MuttleyLaff:
Yeah, good idea if you are ready to jump from the frying pan into the fire place, lmso

The5DME:
Never quote me again. Thank you.

MuttleyLaff:



MaxInDHouse:
Do you notice how the OP specifically asked him to stop mentioning him? cheesy
Muttleylaff wants to condemn the Eckankar yet he wants homosexuality to be approved! cheesy
That's why i always tell him to go out there and PREACH what he knows, after all he knows what is right (homosexuality) and what is evil (Eckankar) at least that's enough to establish a Bible study out there! cheesy
You ought to have outgrown all these gossipy behaviour

Do you approve of all heterosexual acts, hmm mister man? Answer nah

Seems you are deaf in hearing and blind to sight. How many times must you be corrected that I am not preaching nor teaching, erhn?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by Ugwuoha: 2:20pm On Jan 12
chieveboy:
The5Dme, I understand what you mean by God not been my perfect seeing people could be born with sexuality oddities.

The problem lies in people viewing life from the wrong perspective. It will interest you to know that the people responsible for our physical bodies (which people in the past called God's) as it appears now are not God. They are advanced people in appearance, intellect and so on from another planets and are actually fellow Souls as us.


Our pastors do not have enough data to work with the statement "Let US make man in our image and likeness...", So they interpreted that scripture as God speaking to his Trinity parties or so. The missing data in religion today is actually the reality of everyone having lived before.

Each Soul has a Mind that shapes it's physical appearance. Mind includes the intellect (conscious and subconscious) emotions and physical body. To cut a long story short: if Mind is focused on beautiful thoughts and actions, the mind in another incarnation and even the present will come out beautiful, spotless and clean. You can take it from here.

If Mind and another Mind have a karmic issue to settle that bothers on severe correctional karmic conditions, they could even come back here sharing same bodies.

An over-girlie or masculine Mind may still cary-over that trait to an opposite body in another lifetime and they would be referred to as a gay or lesbian. This same condition is responsible for people born without limbs, poor, rich and so on. It's all from Mind and Past Lives. Past life's is what determines destiny or fate.

There is no such thing as Sin! Only Karma! Everybody is responsible for their condition. You boyfriend or husband most likely was your mum or dad in a past life. All females had been males before and vice versa.

Soul is neither male nor female. The Mind is.

Cheers!





Clarity in words.

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Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 2:47pm On Jan 12
chieveboy:
The5Dme, I understand what you mean by God not been my perfect seeing people could be born with sexuality oddities.

The problem lies in people viewing life from the wrong perspective. It will interest you to know that the people responsible for our physical bodies (which people in the past called God's) as it appears now are not God. They are advanced people in appearance, intellect and so on from another planets and are actually fellow Souls as us.

Our pastors do not have enough data to work with the statement "Let US make man in our image and likeness...", So they interpreted that scripture as God speaking to his Trinity parties or so. The missing data in religion today is actually the reality of everyone having lived before.

Each Soul has a Mind that shapes it's physical appearance. Mind includes the intellect (conscious and subconscious) emotions and physical body. To cut a long story short: if Mind is focused on beautiful thoughts and actions, the mind in another incarnation and even the present will come out beautiful, spotless and clean. You can take it from here.

If Mind and another Mind have a karmic issue to settle that bothers on severe correctional karmic conditions, they could even come back here sharing same bodies.

An over-girlie or masculine Mind may still cary-over that trait to an opposite body in another lifetime and they would be referred to as a gay or lesbian. This same condition is responsible for people born without limbs, poor, rich and so on. It's all from Mind and Past Lives. Past life's is what determines destiny or fate.

There is no such thing as Sin! Only Karma! Everybody is responsible for their condition. You boyfriend or husband most likely was your mum or dad in a past life . All females had been males before and vice versa.

Soul is neither male nor female. The Mind is.

Cheers!

Ugwuoha:
Clarity in words.

Clarity in words? Really?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:07pm On Jan 12
Ogbeni if you're not preaching or teaching then nothing concerns you with OP's Eckankar choice to explore what's happening there!
What do you mean by frypan to fire if truly you're neither preaching nor teaching?
Learn how to do this from God's people, we are here to PREACH and TEACH as we make the best use of our time to serve Our Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ! Ephesians 5:15-16
That's why we can't easily make friends because we go straight to work each time we receive an attention, but since what we have doesn't belong to us rather to our King who is no part of the world {John 17:14-16} people are irritated even though they don't know how to turn away from our mind blowing comments! Romans 2:12-15 smiley


MuttleyLaff:




You ought to have outgrown all these gossipy behaviour
Do you approve of all heterosexual acts, hmm mister man? Answer nah
Seems you are deaf in hearing and blind to sight. How many times must you be corrected that I am not preaching nor teaching, erhn?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 3:20pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
Ogbeni if you're not preaching or teaching then nothing concerns you with OP's Eckankar choice to explore what's happening there!
What do you mean by frypan to fire if truly you're neither preaching nor teaching?
Learn how to do this from God's people, we are here to PREACH and TEACH as we make the best use of our time to serve Our Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ! Ephesians 5:15-16
That's why we can't easily make friends because we go straight to work each time we receive an attention, but since what we have doesn't belong to us rather to our King who is no part of the world {John 17:14-16} people are irritated even though they don't know how to turn away from our mind blowing comments! Romans 2:12-15 smiley
"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly"
- James 3:1

Who is Ọgbẹni? Ko ra lẹnu ẹ. Arifin. Shioor!
Its something like this and gossiping, that you'll be flexing your muscles and wanting to bust a blood vessel vein over.

Fyi, the gospel is Galatians 3:28-29, 1 Corinthians 13:13 and more. If and when I teach, I let it beforehand be known I am
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:33pm On Jan 12
James is here referring to Paul's letter to the Ephesians where he (Paul) said God's Holy Spirit dispensed many gifts in men! Ephesians 4:11
James is saying those who are leading as teachers amongst JWs will be judged more strictly if they should relent in setting fine examples as to what they're teaching God's congregation!
That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you just quoted in our book (Bible), but you can't be a Christian if you don't PREACH and TEACH in your neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20 wink

MuttleyLaff:
"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly"
- James 3:1

Who is Ọgbẹni? Ko ra lẹnu ẹ. Arifin. Shioor!
Its something like this and gossiping, that you'll be flexing your muscles and wanting to bust a blood vessel vein over.

Fyi, the gospel is Galatians 3:28-29, 1 Corinthians 13:13 and more. If and when I teach, I let it beforehand be known I am
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 3:45pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
James is here referring to Paul's letter to the Ephesians where he (Paul) said God's Holy Spirit dispensed many gifts in men! Ephesians 4:11
James is saying those who are leading as teachers amongst JWs will be judged more strictly if they should relent in setting fine examples as to what they're teaching God's congregation!
That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you just quoted in our book (Bible), but you can't be a Christian if you don't PREACH and TEACH in your neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20 wink
I feel sorry for you. Smh, because you've gone for worse. You cant even read a short post properly and correctly
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:50pm On Jan 12
Thanks for your time Sir! smiley

MuttleyLaff:
I feel sorry for you. Smh, because you've gone for worse. You cant even read a short post properly and correctly
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by The5DME(f): 3:52pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time Sir! smiley

Is that muttley guy normal?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 3:53pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time Sir! smiley
I dont accept nor appreciate hollow and insincere "Thanks for your time Sir" malarkies, so stuff it up your where the sun dont shine angry angry angry
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:55pm On Jan 12
Some mothers do his type! undecided
The5DME:
Is that muttley guy normal?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 3:57pm On Jan 12
MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, I am not old man, I am a classic specimen of a human being



The5DME:
Is that muttley guy normal?
I am fearfully and wonderfully made normal.

MaxInDHouse:
Some mothers do his type! undecided
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Jan 12
Fearfully and wonderfully made by a Creator who initiated SEX between Adam and Eve, only for you to start promoting perverted sex that your Creator never initiated! cheesy

MuttleyLaff:

I am fearfully and wonderfully made normal.
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by MuttleyLaff: 5:15pm On Jan 12
MaxInDHouse:
Fearfully and wonderfully made by a Creator who initiated SEX between Adam and Eve, only for you to start promoting perverted sex that your Creator never initiated! cheesy
You know that you really arent geared up for this, so why not just whilst you still have the chance to and with your dignity still intact, just jack it in but if you insist you wont, then why not tell, what exactly, putting your finger on it, is perverted sex in permissible and acceptable homosexuality?
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by chieveboy(m): 5:33pm On Jan 12
MuttleyLaff:



Clarity in words? Really?

Thanks. I was actually on transit and seriously needed to correct the bolded for grammar. Thanks once again.

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Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by chieveboy(m): 5:40pm On Jan 12
The5DME:
W

As in "Wow"?

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Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by The5DME(f): 5:46pm On Jan 12
chieveboy:


As in "Wow"?
I wrote something before but deleted it. Check the list where muttley quoted me, you'll see what I wrote.
Re: Homosexuals Are Proof That God Is Not Perfect. by chieveboy(m): 5:48pm On Jan 12
The5DME:
I wrote something before but deleted it. Check the list where muttley quoted me, you'll see what I wrote.

Well just know there's no bounds to expression of views as far as I am concerned. Lets check it out. Thanks

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