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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Jodera: 5:29pm On Jan 21, 2021
davinking:
I Think They Are Right Because When I Checked Last Year Bican Has Scored More Than This
yours even far sef

As at last week I checked Wikipedia and some other sites, I saw 805.

Now same Wikipedia don delete that information this morning I checked it, and the other sites, I'm seeing bican 759. Like it's just surprising
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Kapilta(m): 5:30pm On Jan 21, 2021
retake89:
Stories. Ororo don break record already. Congratulations GOAT
Pained. Obembet hope tears isn't trickling down your cheek right now as you are posting this? grin
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by SEGLIZ: 5:30pm On Jan 21, 2021
61 goals from that mark.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by lekki1444: 5:31pm On Jan 21, 2021
ORORO EWURE
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Coronavirus1: 5:32pm On Jan 21, 2021
TheHulk616:
Nonsense.
Goat Ronaldo has broken destroyed the record.
I believe this news of more goals is coming from messi fans
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 5:35pm On Jan 21, 2021
obembet:
Cristiano Ronaldo scored 760th career goal in Juventus' 2-0 win over Napoli in the Italian Super Cup on Wednesday, seemingly breaking Josef Bican's all-time goalscoring record for club and country; Czech football federation claims Bican scored 821 official goals and not 760

On Wednesday, Ronaldo scored his 760th official goal for club and country in Juventus' 2-0 win over Napoli in the Italian Super Cup, seemingly surpassing the Czech great's record tally of 759 (as recorded by Opta).

However, Czech football's governing body published a statement claiming Bican's tally actually stands at 821, meaning Ronaldo would have to score 62 more goals to become the top goalscorer in football history.

"The History and Statistics committee of the Czech FA counted all the goals scored by the legendary Josef Bican and we can declare he scored 821 goals in official matches," a tweet by the Czech football federation's said.

In a lengthy statement posted on the Czech football federation's website, it is claimed 821 is the "most accurate number possible" when it comes to counting how many goals Bican scored throughout his career.

Josef Bican, former Czechoslovak and Slavia Prague player, is claimed to have scored 821 official goals

"Goals from matches in the first and second leagues, national cups, the Central European Cup and national team selections are included. On the contrary, friendly matches are not included in the statistics, with the exception of the national team.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1352255545424699394?s=19

Wahala be like bicycle grin grin

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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Deepthoughts: 5:38pm On Jan 21, 2021
obembet:
Cristiano Ronaldo scored 760th career goal in Juventus' 2-0 win over Napoli in the Italian Super Cup on Wednesday, seemingly breaking Josef Bican's all-time goalscoring record for club and country; Czech football federation claims Bican scored 821 official goals and not 760

On Wednesday, Ronaldo scored his 760th official goal for club and country in Juventus' 2-0 win over Napoli in the Italian Super Cup, seemingly surpassing the Czech great's record tally of 759 (as recorded by Opta).

However, Czech football's governing body published a statement claiming Bican's tally actually stands at 821, meaning Ronaldo would have to score 62 more goals to become the top goalscorer in football history.

"The History and Statistics committee of the Czech FA counted all the goals scored by the legendary Josef Bican and we can declare he scored 821 goals in official matches," a tweet by the Czech football federation's said.

In a lengthy statement posted on the Czech football federation's website, it is claimed 821 is the "most accurate number possible" when it comes to counting how many goals Bican scored throughout his career.

Josef Bican, former Czechoslovak and Slavia Prague player, is claimed to have scored 821 official goals

"Goals from matches in the first and second leagues, national cups, the Central European Cup and national team selections are included. On the contrary, friendly matches are not included in the statistics, with the exception of the national team.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1352255545424699394?s=19

This people are just haters,all along the record had stood at 759 n they thought it was unbeatable but now that christiano has achieve the near impossible they are coming up with a hitherto unknown record n statistics,FIFA shouldn't be biased n do the needful abeg.

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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by retake89(m): 5:39pm On Jan 21, 2021
Kapilta:
Pained. Obembet hope tears isn't trickling down your cheek right now as you are posting this? grin

Sense far from you oo

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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Yophig: 5:40pm On Jan 21, 2021
INTEGRITYA1:
If he has or not, Ronaldo will still break that record and Messi will eventually break the record from Ronaldo. Messi will then become football scorer of all time.
Messi will retire b4 ronaldo. Ronaldo is machine and will play till age 45
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by retake89(m): 5:41pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:
Messi is still the GOAT
Most complete footballer
He can score
Dribble
Play make
Assist
Curve free kicks
Create chances


Complete player and how many goals has he scored with his head?
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Satan66(m): 5:42pm On Jan 21, 2021
retake89:



Complete player and how many goals has he scored with his head?
You expect a short man to score headers?

Try to reason
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Finnestgreat: 5:43pm On Jan 21, 2021
CR7 is still the G.O.A.T
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by retake89(m): 5:43pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:

You expect a short man to score headers?

Try to reason



Hahahahahah. Abeg no let me laugh na.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Satan66(m): 5:44pm On Jan 21, 2021
optimusprime2:


Messi is everything you say but complete, Messi is a great player-True, Messi is Magical-True, Messi is this and That -True... but a complete forward-No!

The label of a complete forward goes to CR7...
He is a complete Physical Beast!
Left foot, Right foot, Heading, speed, power, Endurance, stamina, mentality, finishing all CR7 get am...
Argue that till tomorrow

Ronaldo that can barely dribble?
Ronaldo that rarely assist?
Ronaldo that rarely create chances?
Ronaldo that rarely play makes?

Do you even know what a complete player is?

Messi does it all.
He has the greatest record in history
91 goals in 1 year
Ronaldo highest was around 70 something

There are levels and then there is messi!
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Nobody: 5:52pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:
Messi is still the GOAT Most complete footballer He can score Dribble Play make Assist Curve free kicks Create chances
see your head like satan head
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by BLoomfrancs(m): 5:53pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:
Messi is still the GOAT Most complete footballer He can score Dribble Play make Assist Curve free kicks Create chances
That one na for your pocket. ORORO is still the G.O.A.T.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Dollanaira: 5:57pm On Jan 21, 2021
Oh
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by BLoomfrancs(m): 5:59pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:

You expect a short man to score headers?

Try to reason
They catch you for head you talk say na leg.
Take a pill.
How many long distance goals has MESSI scored.

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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by ohigus(m): 6:01pm On Jan 21, 2021
Juju stories

Like for CR7

Share for messi
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by OmoAkin85: 6:02pm On Jan 21, 2021
Jodera:
yours even far sef

As at last week I checked Wikipedia and some other sites, I saw 805.

Now same Wikipedia don delete that information this morning I checked it, and the other sites, I'm seeing bican 759. Like it's just surprising
exactly ..soince 2years 805 has been there..this na scam record
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Olayinka8793(m): 6:02pm On Jan 21, 2021
Starz825:


Czech FA are messi fans
looks like it
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by babablogger: 6:14pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:
Messi is still the GOAT
Most complete footballer
He can score
Dribble
Play make
Assist
Curve free kicks
Create chances

But can he use his head �� i mean e fit nod ball �
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by Jodera: 6:20pm On Jan 21, 2021
OmoAkin85:
exactly ..soince 2years 805 has been there..this na scam record
I swear...
It's looking like an agenda
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by sparktony(m): 6:37pm On Jan 21, 2021
VAR : record not broken
reason: Bican's goals 821.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by sparktony(m): 6:39pm On Jan 21, 2021
sparktony:
VAR : record not broken reason: Bican's goals 821.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by optimusprime2(m): 6:39pm On Jan 21, 2021
Satan66:


Ronaldo that can barely dribble?
Ronaldo that rarely assist?
Ronaldo that rarely create chances?
Ronaldo that rarely play makes?

Do you even know what a complete player is?

Messi does it all.
He has the greatest record in history
91 goals in 1 year
Ronaldo highest was around 70 something

There are levels and then there is messi!

So CR7 can not dribble? grin

FYI CR7 and Messi play very different positions... Messi's position requires him to be a playmaker, while CR7 doesn't have to be a playmaker but contrary to this, his assists have been seriously underrated because he still has a high number of assists. Check the stats.

Among the two, who is more versatile in playing positions-Do you know because of Messi, a top form Dybala sat out the whole 2018 worldcup, why? Because Messi would have been required to swap occasionally which he would not do. Yes an in form Dybala was sacrificed just to accommodate Messi in Argentina's worldcup quest of 2018 ... just imagine.

CR7 literally evolved into an all out striker in his final real Madrid days and he does it like he had been a striker for the past 10 years...

Lemme give you CR7 and Messi position timeline

2003/2004 in The Portuguese team when Figo was around, CR7 was a left winger while at Man U he was a right winger (note he was a midfielder) ... At the time Messi held his same position at Barca RWF(but drifting center). Note a wingers required qualities dribbling, speed, and crossing accuracy, CR7 needed those skills and of course he had them. For Messi's position Playmaking, dribbling and an eye for goal.

2006/2009 CR7 evolved to a dynamic forward capable of functioning in any position in a three man attack (with Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo), at Barca Messi was still doing his thing i.e RWF drifting center, but he got really good at it, however good players had to be sacrificed for Messi's development on that position- Zlatan Ibrahimovic was one of them. Note a forwards required qualities, shooting, dribbling, and positioning over speed- CR7 became a physical beast during this period, even his body became much muscular to give his play more physicality.


2010/2016
CR7 got better at rotating in a three man attack but was having a pace decline, Zidane had to talk him into a CF position conversion, while Messi evolved from the center drifting RWF to a false 9 thus he cemented his central play style. Neymar and Suarez joined the picture eventually, where Neymar and Suarez did the rotation(Neymar being the more Dynamic of the trio compensated mobility) as much as Messi kept play in the middle-Dani Alves was the actual RWF, However on paper Messi was a RWF. CR7 at this time started working on his "in the box" movement and honed a poacher instinct.


2017/2020
CR7 became a ruthless center forward and his game play changed, Messi on the other hand, played the same position RWF, however he established center operation. Qualities required for CF, finishing over shooting, Positioning, Spatial awareness, CR7 adapted to a new position, while Messi still maintained his Playmaking, dribbling and eye for goal.(Neymars departure exposed the vulnerability of Messi though because Suarez was not versatile enough to compensate for Mobility- Ousmane Dembele was the fix for Neymar due to him being a natural double footed and dynamic player, however injuries didn't help and Messi had a hard time coping especially since Xavi and Iniesta left, in all that Messi could not adjust his position)

Analysis
CR7 was the most Dynamic of the 2 as he literally changed from a midfielder, to a Flank Foward and to a Center Forward, forfeiting old qualities and developing new qualities. A striker is not all about dribbling or playmaking but about end product and CR7 delivers the goods. Messi on the other hand is very good however in a particular position.

Why is CR7 the most complete player among the 2, because he developed the skill set for playing in all forward positions, which makes him dynamic(he can function in any team) his being able to use both feet helps him in being Dynamic, though Messi is the better player in the position aspect because he mastered a particular position for over 10 years, and he does it naturally, however if Messi plays in a team without players that can support his central drifting (it may not turn out well, typical center forwards need to be sacrificed for Messi to operate) Messi is very left footed so he is unlikely to swap positions fully in a game, which makes him less Dynamic. We see that weakness whenever he plays for Argentina, and we may see more of that weakness when Messi leaves Barcelona.

CR7 would play for Stoke City or Burnley and still typically score goals... now that is a complete player.

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Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Has Not Broken Josef Bican's All-time Goalscoring Records by iheanacho98013: 6:58pm On Jan 21, 2021
:Complete player and how many goals has he scored with his head? You expect a short man to score headers?Try to reason

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