Sowere Went to court at Wuse 2, Abuja with a witch doctor. When I saw the news headlines, it reminds me that life is spiritual.

Media critics without a spiritual back ups would only send you to your early grave or leaves you with an indelible negative marks.

Sowere's access to the spiritual realm is his witch doctor and SOWERE Obeys his witch doctor and his gods instructions and commands to maintain free flows of supernatural benefits. These men gives sacrifices and rituals to their spirit gods so as to access spiritual benefits bacause the spiritual realm control the physical.

So those criticising Churches and Pastors for paying Tithes and offerings to God in Heaven makes no sense to me because they are obeying a spiritual law or instruction in order to access spiritual benefits. When you study your bible, you'll discover that a Tither accesses Blessings, Fruitfulness, riches, protections etc. Continous witch hurt on notable men of God because of tithe and offerings is obviously an attack between two kingdoms (The kingdom of Light and the kingdom of darkness)

Therefore don't join the wagon of Media persecutors and haters of Men of God or Pastors, you may end of becoming a victim or casualty while the initiator goes free because of his spiritual backups. Don't get me wrong. Sowere's spiritual source would not last, it is not from God Most High. Seek God!!! Life continues after Death and where you will spend eternity matters!

Thanks.

Mtcheww

Rubbish

What is this one saying? Oga, if you choose to continue paying tithe to pastors nobody will stop or beat you. Live-and-let-live.

afroniger:
What is this one saying? Oga, if you choose to continue paying tithe to pastors nobody will stop or beat you. Live-and-let-live.

Thanks my brother, thats my point. We should all respect people's believe and activities after all belief is a choice.

zoeA:

This post is for people with the awareness that Life is spiritual. Great people knew this. Am not surprised if you didn't understand what the post is talking about.

....

using this as a premise for tithe paying seems to make Christianity look like it has no substance.

but it is not so. See, I have seen that we believers including our pastors , are quite selfish and greedy. we emphasize money for ourselves as pastors/preachers and the members are about themselves and their families.

truth be told, if members stop paying, most if not all preachers go go empty.

and what baffles me is that evil is growing everyday and they don't see that their greed is the reason. like how can a brother or sister be expected to be coming to church to shout amen and give the one he has when if he joins cult for example, they rally round to give him money at least at the beginning, if she is a runs girl, her colleagues would try to assist her if she had a need, if he is a yahoo boy, and maybe he is being targeted by security agencies and his colleague knows, he informs him to take cover.... bear palour people spend mony for each other on a bad day etc , yet, how many believers stick their head for others in terms of money ?

even the welfare some churches do, funds are being raised separately from members again for it. and its so so yam rice groundnut oil etc

na rice yam and groundnut oil wey a man wey wan start life need ?


what happens to that church worker who has been deligent an now just graduated and needs a job ? why not we look at him or when he backslides now, everywhere go carry the news.

what happens to that deligent sister that has been struggling ? what's wrong if she is called and asked, what kind of business does she want to do ??

this is where Christianity would show. cos things are getting out of hand.

even Christ said : "make friends with mammon of unrighteousness"

we have many talented believers... who is our don jazzy that sticks out Hus neck for that fellow and makes his talent even global ?

why do we deceive ourselves ?

keep deceiving yourself .... Tithing has its place but what is happening now is not because "So that there shall be meat in my house". It is now people enmassing wealth for themselves

yet, Jeff bezos, elon musk etc are richer.

Successdude:
using this as a premise for tithe paying seems to make Christianity look like it has no substance.

but it is not so. See, I have seen that we believers including our pastors , are quite selfish and greedy. we emphasize money for ourselves as pastors/preachers and the members are about themselves and their families.

truth be told, if members stop paying, most if not all preachers go go empty.

and what baffles me is that evil is growing everyday and they don't see that their greed is the reason. like how can a brother or sister be expected to be coming to church to shout amen and give the one he has when if he joins cult for example, they rally round to give him money at least at the beginning, if she is a runs girl, her colleagues would try to assist her if she had a need, if he is a yahoo boy, and maybe he is being targeted by security agencies and his colleague knows, he informs him to take cover.... bear palour people spend mony for each other on a bad day etc , yet, how many believers stick their head for others in terms of money ?

even the welfare some churches do, funds are being raised separately from members again for it. and its so so yam rice groundnut oil etc

na rice yam and groundnut oil wey a man wey wan start life need ?


what happens to that church worker who has been deligent an now just graduated and needs a job ? why not we look at him or when he backslides now, everywhere go carry the news.

what happens to that deligent sister that has been struggling ? what's wrong if she is called and asked, what kind of business does she want to do ??

this is where Christianity would show. cos things are getting out of hand.

even Christ said : "make friends with mammon of unrighteousness"

we have many talented believers... who is our don jazzy that sticks out Hus neck for that fellow and makes his talent even global ?

why do we deceive ourselves ?

keep deceiving yourself .... Tithing has its place but what is happening now is not because "So that there shall be meat in my house". It is now people enmassing wealth for themselves

yet, Jeff bezos, elon musk etc are richer.

Firstly, Those great men of God you accused of amassing wealth with church Tithe and offerings are making their money from different degitimate sources. Some of them don't even know the exact figure of Tithe and offerings for each services because they have nothing to do with it. Tithe and offerings are Church money not pastor's money. You knew about these men's affluence because they were principled enough to differentiate between personal money and church money. Church money is spent for church matters.

The law of Value and Reward systems still works in the church, For example when a pastor prays for some one who has been suffering from one chronic afflictions that has defiled medications and the person gets heal, the person may decide to appreciate the man of God by buying him a gift just to appreciate him not because he is paying him for the miracle performed but out of gratitude he or she does that after thanking God because all Glory goes to God.

Most of the things you see men of God drive and wear are gifted by someone and people are still giving them because they are offering values and solutions to people free of charge, yet some of them earn higher than those asking for money, that is to show you their major source is GOD.

As for welfare to the body of Christ, most churches I know engages in massive welfare, I can list them if you want. The church and some pastor's are trying their best to reach out to as many people as possible. The church are playing their roles to the best of their ability, though they may have lapses but the church is working towards perfection. People are being given Jobs in their churches expecially if you are an identified memeber of the assembly. Talents are groomed and raised in different churches, I don't want to call names because I have proofs.

Please know where God wants you to serve Him, I believe if you are in the right place (Church), things would work out in your favour..

wofayouths:
Sowere Went to court at Wuse 2, Abuja with a witch doctor. When I saw the news headlines, it reminds me that life is spiritual.

Media critics without a spiritual back ups would only send you to your early grave or leaves you with an indelible negative marks.

Sowere's access to the spiritual realm is his witch doctor and SOWERE Obeys his witch doctor and his gods instructions and commands to maintain free flows of supernatural benefits. These men gives sacrifices and rituals to their spirit gods so as to access spiritual benefits bacause the spiritual realm control the physical.

So those criticising Churches and Pastors for paying Tithes and offerings to God in Heaven makes no sense to me because they are obeying a spiritual law or instruction in order to access spiritual benefits. When you study your bible, you'll discover that a Tither accesses Blessings, Fruitfulness, riches, protections etc. Continous witch hurt on notable men of God because of tithe and offerings is obviously an attack between two kingdoms (The kingdom of Light and the kingdom of darkness)

Therefore don't join the wagon of Media persecutors and haters of Men of God or Pastors, you may end of becoming a victim or casualty while the initiator goes free because of his spiritual backups. Don't get me wrong. Sowere's spiritual source would not last, it is not from God Most High. Seek God!!! Life continues after Death and where you will spend eternity matters!

Thanks.

Oga you sound so stupid by trying to equates God with inanimate things.
When next you wish to spew gibberish, leave The Almighty God out of your foolhardiness.

Whoube99:



Oga you sound so stupid by trying to equates God with inanimate things.
When next you wish to spew gibberish, leave The Almighty God out of your foolhardiness.

I didn't equate God with Men of God. Remember we are not inanimate thing, are you?

Neither did I equate Soware Witch Doctor to his gods.

Please carefully read and understand my points.

Thanks.

Recieve sense. Tithe is a curse and it was never money. It was always food. Show me any verse in the Bible where tithe was given as gold or silver earned. In fact, in a verse it stated you should sell whatever you want to use as tithe if you are far from wherever you were to pay tithe, carry the money and use it to buy what you will eat at the destination. Duetroumny 14, 23-25.

wofayouths:
Sowere Went to court at Wuse 2, Abuja with a witch doctor. When I saw the news headlines, it reminds me that life is spiritual.

Media critics without a spiritual back ups would only send you to your early grave or leaves you with an indelible negative marks.

Sowere's access to the spiritual realm is his witch doctor and SOWERE Obeys his witch doctor and his gods instructions and commands to maintain free flows of supernatural benefits. These men gives sacrifices and rituals to their spirit gods so as to access spiritual benefits bacause the spiritual realm control the physical.

So those criticising Churches and Pastors for paying Tithes and offerings to God in Heaven makes no sense to me because they are obeying a spiritual law or instruction in order to access spiritual benefits. When you study your bible, you'll discover that a Tither accesses Blessings, Fruitfulness, riches, protections etc. Continous witch hurt on notable men of God because of tithe and offerings is obviously an attack between two kingdoms (The kingdom of Light and the kingdom of darkness)

Therefore don't join the wagon of Media persecutors and haters of Men of God or Pastors, you may end of becoming a victim or casualty while the initiator goes free because of his spiritual backups. Don't get me wrong. Sowere's spiritual source would not last, it is not from God Most High. Seek God!!! Life continues after Death and where you will spend eternity matters!

Thanks.

y are u presenting it as if u are paying tithe to buy life?
u believe if u pay tithe u are bribing God?

If u think u have money to bribe God,y don't u think of rich men like obj, Tinubu n co.if it's by paying tithe to bribe God where will u b when these men are spending money

wofayouths:




Firstly, Those great men of God you accused of amassing wealth with church Tithe and offerings are making their money from different degitimate sources. Some of them don't even know the exact figure of Tithe and offerings for each services because they have nothing to do with it. Tithe and offerings are Church money not pastor's money. You knew about these men's affluence because they were principled enough to differentiate between personal money and church money. Church money is spent for church matters.

The law of Value and Reward systems still works in the church, For example when a pastor prays for some one who has been suffering from one chronic afflictions that has defiled medications and the person gets heal, the person may decide to appreciate the man of God by buying him a gift just to appreciate him not because he is paying him for the miracle performed but out of gratitude he or she does that after thanking God because all Glory goes to God.

Most of the things you see men of God drive and wear are gifted by someone and people are still giving them because they are offering values and solutions to people free of charge, yet some of them earn higher than those asking for money, that is to show you their major source is GOD.

As for welfare to the body of Christ, most churches I know engages in massive welfare, I can list them if you want. The church and some pastor's are trying their best to reach out to as many people as possible. The church are playing their roles to the best of their ability, though they may have lapses but the church is working towards perfection. People are being given Jobs in their churches expecially if you are an identified memeber of the assembly. Talents are groomed and raised in different churches, I don't want to call names because I have proofs.

Please know where God wants you to serve Him, I believe if you are in the right place (Church), things would work out in your favour..

Actually, I'd take my point as an advise rather than an accusation as u called it, which is an erroneous take.

What again you must know, is there is a place for action; as in human development. If the church don't give in to that it would pay more for it. Its not about praying .... You don't pray a president into office for example to be a christian but you must first have a christian politician first and foremost.

Donald Trump could affect affairs concerning Christians cos he was a politician not cos of a prayer warrior.

If we don't delve into this reality, na so so lamentation.

Let's look at building an accusation institution in humans who are believers.

The greed is too much.

Can I hear from you, what are tithes used for ??

Successdude:


Actually, I'd take my point as an advise rather than an accusation as u called it, which is an erroneous take.

What again you must know, is there is a place for action; as in human development. If the church don't give in to that it would pay more for it. Its not about praying .... You don't pray a president into office for example to be a christian but you must first have a christian politician first and foremost.

Donald Trump could affect affairs concerning Christians cos he was a politician not cos of a prayer warrior.

If we don't delve into this reality, na so so lamentation.

Let's look at building an accusation institution in humans who are believers.

The greed is too much.

Can I hear from you, what are tithes used for ??

I would advice you to read my response and meditate on it. Faith without works is dead. Please understand my points before diving from pillar to post in your arguments.

Tithe is used to run the activities and the welfare of the church. Some pastors expecially the once you guys accused of using tithe to enrich their selves do not spend tithe. They don't personalize Tithe. There are some big churches whose operations cost per service is over 1m to 2m not to talk of payment of church staffs, charity and members welfare.

From experience I have realized those having issues with Tithe are the very greedy ones. Those criticizing and judging men of God are even big sinners not even worthy to even talk against anointed men of God. Can you imagine a Prostitute or a Yahoo guy or a sexual or drug addict criticizing and correcting some of these men that have imparted alot of lives. Greats mind that criticize men doing well in their field.

hollah123:
y are u presenting it as if u are paying tithe to buy life?
u believe if u pay tithe u are bribing God?

If u think u have money to bribe God,y don't u think of rich men like obj, Tinubu n co.if it's by paying tithe to bribe God where will u b when these men are spending money

You are not paying Tithe to buy life. Tithe is a convenant, paying it connects you to the covenant of God, and when you pay tithe you are obeying God which is a show of love for God. It is a spiritual matter that may requirement a spiritual person to understand the mystery. That is why i pity those who come online to talk anyhow against men of God on this subject matter.

despi64:
Recieve sense. Tithe is a curse and it was never money. It was always food. Show me any verse in the Bible where tithe was given as gold or silver earned. In fact, in a verse it stated you should sell whatever you want to use as tithe if you are far from wherever you were to pay tithe, carry the money and use it to buy what you will eat at the destination. Duetroumny 14, 23-25.

Receive understanding and may your spiritual eyes open now!!!

Tithe is 10% of everything GOD gives you. What God gives you can be anything.

wofayouths:


You are not paying Tithe to buy life. Tithe is a convenant, paying it connects you to the covenant of God, and when you pay tithe you are obeying God which is a show of love for God. It is a spiritual matter that may requirement a spiritual person to understand the mystery. That is why i pity those who come online to talk anyhow against men of God on this subject matter.

Better convenant, read HEB 8 vs 6 and for better understanding read the whole of Hebrew chapter 8 & 9.
All good things you and I get from God is not because of our works or giving, but rather because he loves us, period,
Daystar GO Pastor Adeyemi even apologize to people for deceiving them in the past.
You only determines what you want to give and no law compels you, cause we are under grace and not outdated convenant that you referred to.
You have the Bible, read it

Details of the pastor below
https://persecondnews.com/2018/03/03/practice-of-tithing-as-expired-says-pastor-adeyemi/

Successdude:
using this as a premise for tithe paying seems to make Christianity look like it has no substance.

but it is not so. See, I have seen that we believers including our pastors , are quite selfish and greedy. we emphasize money for ourselves as pastors/preachers and the members are about themselves and their families.

truth be told, if members stop paying, most if not all preachers go go empty.

why do we deceive ourselves ?

keep deceiving yourself .... Tithing has its place but what is happening now is not because "So that there shall be meat in my house". It is now people enmassing wealth for themselves

yet, Jeff bezos, elon musk etc are richer.

You made many salient points but u seem to get ur views wrongly placed in my opinion.
You acknowledged that some churches do have welfare dept. Except u think they do little or repeat the same gifts.
I am not a church administrator nor a pastor but lemme remind u that being a pastor doesn't make one a matured xtian nor a poster boy for genuine spirituality. Yet I know many pastors and churches who help their workers get jobs and offer referals. Even pay school fees for some within their limited means.
I won't be the one to judge the motives and greed of men talk more of men who profess to pursue Gods agenda but if you (like so many other xtians) focus on the " that their might be meat..." as ur motivation for tithing, then u tithe as a favor to Godnor to the church or pastor. U tithe from a sense of duty and it will profit u nothing.
I often advise people to get a revelation of tithing before they begin because motive is everything in Gods kingdom. Tithing and offering with revelation has made me wonderfully blessed.

;DHOW TO SCAM CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA

1. Organize a programme.

2. Make Sure it's around the end of the month when salaries will be paid.

3. Look for trending gospel artistes.

4. Negotiate a price with the gospel music artist.

5. Invite good motivational speakers and smooth talkers. He must fly in from another city or country. You must innocently sit down during the service, and feign ignorance.

6. Make billboards and posters (it's for publicity and marketing).

7. Now, on the D day. It must be emphasized how the invited guest(s) left other business behind to fly all the way here. All because of the anointing of giving.

8. Now let the musician sing and stir the emotions of all present - artistes like Frank Edwards or Mercy Chinwo would do. (if It makes you sensational, it's now easy to scam you).

9. Now, if you can give in $ dollars stand by my right, in £pounds come up the altar, in Naira stay to my left.

10. Work don set. At this time, most are no longer thinking straight. Some for class will go to dollars and pounds corner. (All na showbiz)

11. If you can give land, car etc. I will pray for you specially after service in the Pastor's office. (Office don open for their head be that)

12. Sing again, Frank!!!! sing "I can see him from afar.... " (sustain it because some of dem eyes wan clear).

13. Show them how the widow gave her last mite & the widow of Zarephath too. (They will agree, because it's in the bible)

14. Now hear the chief scammer "I know I said I won't go beyond this amount, but the lord just said to me, the anointing is for everyone here, so come with whatever you have.

15. The job is done. Now you, the host pastor and guest meet and share according to their agreement.

16. The victims will now be waiting for all the promises and prophecies. It's been 10 years now. They're going to be waiting for the next usurper to come again while they are thinking on how to repay debts upon debts, bills and fees without an inch of raise in their income.

Worse is when they are now deacons, yet tenant with 5 children who must attend academic institution for exorbitant amount of fees they barely can afford.

As for me, I'm outer here!!! !

wofayouths:


You are not paying Tithe to buy life. Tithe is a convenant, paying it connects you to the covenant of God, and when you pay tithe you are obeying God which is a show of love for God. It is a spiritual matter that may requirement a spiritual person to understand the mystery. That is why i pity those who come online to talk anyhow against men of God on this subject matter.

keep quiet n stop your cheap blackmail,there are more than 5 laws in the old testament y single out only tithing?

Have u forgotten that in the old testament
all families are to sacrifice their first child to the work of God

u don't pray to God directly but Ur pastor takes your prayer requests to the inner room n he pleads to God on your behalf

u sacrifice to cleanse your sins

n so many more.

y is it that it is only tithe that u people emphasize on?
y only the money involved?
u are paying tithe to your pastor n u are still taking your prayer request to good directly n u think u are wise?

fykes:

You made many salient points but u seem to get ur views wrongly placed in my opinion.
You acknowledged that some churches do have welfare dept. Except u think they do little or repeat the same gifts.
I am not a church administrator nor a pastor but lemme remind u that being a pastor doesn't make one a matured xtian nor a poster boy for genuine spirituality. Yet I know many pastors and churches who help their workers get jobs and offer referals. Even pay school fees for some within their limited means.
I won't be the one to judge the motives and greed of men talk more of men who profess to pursue Gods agenda but if you (like so many other xtians) focus on the " that their might be meat..." as ur motivation for tithing, then u tithe as a favor to Godnor to the church or pastor. U tithe from a sense of duty and it will profit u nothing.
I often advise people to get a revelation of tithing before they begin because motive is everything in Gods kingdom. Tithing and offering with revelation has made me wonderfully blessed.

in reality, we have come a long way to do things well and good. churches are trying and that, if u read my post well, is what it means. but again majority of sane churches are NOT trying in terms of pushing the faith on the physical habitat.

for eg, this is an era of IT, AI, Crypto etc ...... now if a church says it has a seminar on empowerment and dwells on soap making, and bleach now that is "NOT trying" cos it on the long run won't place believers at strategic places to represent the church.

again, I say this without remorse, most of our pastors have given a croocked understanding if tithing to the members and that is out of greed.

I pay tithe and know the nitty gritty for eg one can pay on the altar OR one can pay tithe by giving it to less privilege etc ..... but an average ignorant christian would argue this. and that is because of a programming from the altar.

the altar of today most, are a platform to make people ignorant of Gods word.

they have their devices in words and action ...... I can go on and on but I must stop here.

Brave ijaw man.
I have always been wondered how an afonja could be these brave, because no we all know they be are cowardsst.
It was later I now found out that he is ijaw.
Remember we ijaws are the richest, bravest and strongest black people o. Earth.
God bless the ijaws.

Successdude:


I pay tithe and know the nitty gritty for eg one can pay on the altar OR one can pay tithe by giving it to less privilege etc ..... but an average ignorant christian would argue this. and that is because of a programming from the altar.

Do u care sir to illustrate biblically how one pays tithe by giving alms to the less privileged or paying to an altar?
Note that I don't care for an argument, I believe the Bible so if u will point me right and I will learn. Its my first time hearing that

fykes:

Do u care sir to illustrate biblically how one pays tithe by giving alms to the less privileged or paying to an altar?
Note that I don't care for an argument, I believe the Bible so if u will point me right and I will learn. Its my first time hearing that

Deut 14:28,29 (includes Less privileged etc); Malachi 3:8-10 (Altar/Church).

Deut 14:28,29 :

28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

hollah123:
keep quiet n stop your cheap blackmail,there are more than 5 laws in the old testament y single out only tithing?

Have u forgotten that in the old testament
all families are to sacrifice their first child to the work of God

u don't pray to God directly but Ur pastor takes your prayer requests to the inner room n he pleads to God on your behalf

u sacrifice to cleanse your sins

n so many more.

y is it that it is only tithe that u people emphasize on?
y only the money involved?
u are paying tithe to your pastor n u are still taking your prayer request to good directly n u think u are wise?

Tithing has been in existent before the law. Read Hebrew 7:8-9. The act of Tithing is an act of loving, you can't say you love without giving a portion out of what you got to your lover who is also your provider. Abraham, Iseach and Jacob Tithed even before the law came. Tithing is not of the law. It was only included in the law because it is part what God required from every child of His.

We pay Tithe to God not to a pastor. Pastor is more like a Levi who received the tithe but it is God's own.

Prayers are channelled to God. When you are born again you have direct access to God because you automatically become a son of God. You pray to God directly. There are some cases where you seek the help of God through a highly anointed man of God on a particular issues in prayers. If you are truly born again you would understand my points. The spiritual controls the physical. It is your spiritual weight in the spirit that grants you victory in the things of the physical. You must belong somewhere, no middle existed else you become a casualty someday.

ican2020:

Better convenant, read HEB 8 vs 6 and for better understanding read the whole of Hebrew chapter 8 & 9.
All good things you and I get from God is not because of our works or giving, but rather because he loves us, period,
Daystar GO Pastor Adeyemi even apologize to people for deceiving them in the past.
You only determines what you want to give and no law compels you, cause we are under grace and not outdated convenant that you referred to.
You have the Bible, read it

Details of the pastor below
https://persecondnews.com/2018/03/03/practice-of-tithing-as-expired-says-pastor-adeyemi/

Tithing has been in existent before the law. Read Hebrew 7:8-9. The act of Tithing is an act of loving, you can't say you love without giving a portion out of what you got to your lover who is also your provider. Abraham, Iseach and Jacob Tithed even before the law came. Tithing is not of the law. It was only included in the law because it is part what God required from every child of His.