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| If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by EarsWide(m): 1:51pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
If christianity is about wealth (material wealth as in the prosperity gospel), why did Jesus Christ not perform a single miracle to make a poor person rich ? |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by REALTRUTH1: 2:59pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
Very good question,,,, |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by KunleOshob(m): 3:02pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
Abeg help me ask them ooo! |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by dare2think: 3:44pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
A pastor without no initial business that he started prior to starting the church and is richer than you is a FRAUD. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 3:47pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
Bad belle people,  Anywayz. no one preaches of our reward in heaven and inheritance on earth for being righteous. all you hear is 2011 - God it is my turn! |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Olaisrich(m): 6:01pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
He was made poor so that we can be rich, so let the poor say am rich! |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Basito: 11:43pm On Apr 15, 2011 |
In 2cor8v9, Jesus made people rich.In deut8v18(TLB), even God gives power to make people rich.if wealth is a bad thing God wouldn't do that. Please note: first fruit, tithing and partnership are the supernatural structures through which God makes people rich. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by EarsWide(m): 8:12am On Apr 16, 2011 |
@Basito Where did he perform a miracle in 2Cor8v 9 to make someone rich ? |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by EarsWide(m): 9:42am On Apr 16, 2011 |
@Defenders of the prosperity gospel You dont have an answer do you ? Your silence is deafening! |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by emmanuel4j: 9:55am On Apr 17, 2011 |
you are very funny, anyway firstly its ur definition of wat u tink wealth is, thats making you give an erroneous view, firstly wealth is not an absence of money or material resources, wealth is first in the spirit before it is manifested in the flesh, and as long as the spirit of somebody is born again, Christ has imparted wealth as an ability in the whole package of salvation to the mans spirit, all he needs to do is follow the prinicples of the word of God, and jesus clearly specified that the gospel was being preached to the poor (matt 1:5, luke 4:18), for it is only the word of God that can really educate a poor man on how to be rich, christainity is not magic, dere are laid down rules of success you must follow to see the change you want, even the miracles Jesus performed on sick people,the sick had to first act their faith because its not magic.Those that are not born again dat seem to be rich or wealthy is because man sees dem as wealthy because of the things they have physically it wasnt God who said they are rich or wealthy, the way man sees wealth is different from Gods.so the Jesus i know made many rich by giving them the life that has the ability to physically express the wealth in the spirit and that was adequate, and he is the true God not one of magics, so man must play his part.But if YOUR OWN JESUS didnt make anybody rich, he can as well make you poor, is up to you bro, but my Jesus has given me wealth untold and am manifesting what he has given me through the knowledge of his word |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Nekai(f): 10:00am On Apr 17, 2011 |
Amen Emmanuel!!! Many 'rich' people go on to spend thousands of dollars on plastic surgery because they are not comfortable with themselves. Many 'rich' went their whole lives chasing wealth only to realize it didn't make them happy. Some of these 'rich' people die by their own hand, believing suicide is the only answer, |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Nekai(f): 10:03am On Apr 17, 2011 |
These 'prosperity preachers' are looking to exploit people that have very little money. Notice that they are always looking to you for more moiney. Why don't they just pray for more money themselves and not take money from poor folks. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by newmi(m): 11:16am On Apr 17, 2011 |
EarsWide: Christianity is not about wealth but wealth is a part of the good news that christianity brings EarsWide:Fisrly, this is a very very stupid question one that reveals the chronic fetality of the degree of ignorance on this display. If you not aware He has done then be smart enough to fine out because l wonder if you have seen scriptures like this: 2 Corinthians 8:9 "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich" Please clear your see and see THIS IS WHAT CHRIST JESUS DID FOR US- THOUGH HE WAS RICH BUT HE BECAME POOR SO THAT THROUGH HIS POVERTY WE CAN BE MADE RICH and bible refers to this as a function of God's grace |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by newmi(m): 11:18am On Apr 17, 2011 |
EarsWide: Christianity is not about wealth but wealth is a part of the good news that christianity brings EarsWide:Fisrly, this is a very very stupid question one that reveals the chronic fetality of the degree of ignorance on this display. If you not aware He has done then be smart enough to fine out because l wonder if you have seen scriptures like this: 2 Corinthians 8:9 "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich" Please clear your see and see THIS IS WHAT CHRIST JESUS DID FOR US- THOUGH HE WAS RICH BUT HE BECAME POOR SO THAT THROUGH HIS POVERTY WE CAN BE MADE RICH and bible refers to this as a function of God's grace |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by newmi(m): 11:26am On Apr 17, 2011 |
Luke 4:18 18 The Spirit of the Lord[ is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by newmi(m): 11:33am On Apr 17, 2011 |
^^^^ What other news could be termed good to a poor man other than that which declares an end to his poverty and open his eyes to the abundance of their Heavenly Father in Christ Jesus. The miracle of prosperity is spiritual thus is cannot be defined by the parametres of man. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by free123: 1:17pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
christianity is all about salvation whether u are poor, rich, blind, deaf or whatever. Prosperity in terms of physical wealth is what God alone can give u if He so desires. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Gombs(m): 1:37pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
Be careful how you ask questions about Christ's body-The CHURCH, now,can you further the gospel without money?the bible recorded that Judas kept the money bag for the disciples(that is he was there treasurer).now,why didnt you say Jesus ate the money?or the money was gathered so that Jesus could by food?what was the money for?. . . .God knows,it's not possible to further the gospel without money or 'material wealth' as you name it.besides,he has called us kings and gods,psalms 82:6,rev 1:6. . .Now we know that God doesnt exaggerate,so,can these description be that of poor people?luke 4:18 "the spirit of the Lord is upon me,because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor . . ."now,what gospel do you preach to the poor?gospel of poverty?is the fact that the spirit of God has anointed him to do this not enough a miracle for you?doesnt it tell you the gospel is an enricher or wealth making recipie?, you are asking why he didnt perform a miracle of making someone rich,like u expect the poor person to have cash immediately jesus performed the miracle?Jesus could have turned stone to bread,but he didnt,why? Was it that he couldnt? . . Pls answer all the questions i asked here,besides that,i think the topic is not worth discussing, pls answer them for me. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by EarsWide(m): 2:28pm On Apr 20, 2011 |
@Gombs you said you are asking why he didnt perform a miracle of making someone rich,like u expect the poor person to have cash immediately jesus performed the miracle When Jesus healed people they were healed immediately!! Do you guys (defenders of the prosperity gospel) realise how much you try and twist the bible to suit your false (or more charitably, mistaken) beliefs e.g moneybag = treasurer = rich (my local club has a treasurer does that mean we are rich ?? ) |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by TCD: 4:15pm On Apr 20, 2011 |
newmi: newmi: Sorry, just a quick question. What do U̶̲̥̅̊ mean by Jesus was "Rich" then became poor. What where D̶̲̥̅̊ riches spoken of therein? Are you saying that in heaven there exists aplenty dollars, pounds, yen? Gold,silver? Is it that they possess many designer clothes/accesories in heaven? Do they even wear clothes in heaven? Or maybe there is soooo much food hence D̶̲̥̅̊ riches but, do they eat in heaven? Even if such where present in heaven, of what monetary/currency value is it right there in heaven for it to be qualified as "riches"? Bear in mind that even if you give a truck load Of Gold to a bush man in whose society gold is ηọ̥t recognised as something of value or currency, you have effectively in his mind given him worthless junk. So please, can you clarify D̶̲̥̅̊ riches you spoke of Jesus having above. Thanks |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by livin: 5:18pm On Apr 20, 2011 |
Gombs: Hmm, how much money did the disciples of Jesus really use to further the gospel? And if truly our modern day pastors are interested in promoting the gospel of Jesus, why don't they fly to Iraq, Saudi Arabia or middle eastern countries where it is most likely people haven't heard about Christ? I don't think anyone is saying that a christian cannot be wealthy (materially that is) but I believe it is definitely not a requirement for the salvation of your soul. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by yommyuk: 11:27pm On Apr 21, 2011 |
Jesus told us that it will be very difficult for a rich man to enter heaven. "Difficult" he said but not impossible. However it does create an awareness that whatever may hinder a believer from gaining Heaven should not be taken lightly. @post Christianity is not all about wealth. We came to the world with nothing and will leave also with nothing. However ain't nothing bad in leaving a good legacy of wealth behind for the good of mankind  |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by nuclearboy(m): 6:24pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
TCD: Fantastic questions here and they will NOT be answered or if attempted, the answers will bear NO relation to the questions. I await the insults or self righteousness that will surely come. And am ready! These questions in themselves alone prove that spiritual should be compared to spiritual rather than weeds in feed. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by PastorAIO: 7:27pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
Jesus did not make any poor person rich because he lived during the old covenant, so the magic formula for wealth was only established with the new covenant. There is so much that was yet to be revealed about christianity but had to wait till after Jesus had died. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Nobody: 8:16pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
Earswide because our concept of wealth is in the form or vanity and currency. The term WEALTH from God's perspective and prophets like who we know as Jesus, is God's love. Belonging to a class is all good and dandy when we talk about worth as far as money, but the real thing that matters is that the rich and poor alike are treated with respect and regard and that members of all classes recognize God as the supreme being. It's not about giving ppl coins and dollars. What is currenty to God's love and respect for man? This is also a reason why I have beef with 'collection plates and "devotion"' but that's for another topic  |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by EarsWide(m): 8:25pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
@MzDarkSkin Excellent, thank you. The whole prosperity gospel is based on a wrong understanding of wealth - people are been exploited daily by these prosperity frauds. |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Nobody: 8:28pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
EarsWide: No problem brother   |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by NickJ(m): 9:17pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
we were given life, thats the richest gift u can ever get. . . . . Jesus gave away his gift for us Old skool thinggg |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Nobody: 10:23pm On Apr 22, 2011 |
The problem with the prosperity preachers is that the specialise in taking quotations from the bible that bear no relevance to the topic in question and twisting them out of context,hence any where wealth is mentioned in the bible the prosperity preachers pick such passages to justify their fleecing of their poor congregations. Jesus never preached about wealth,rather he castigated men of wealth of being unable to attain the kingdom of heaven,hence sayings such as it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to do the same,but here is the catch,no prosperity preacher worth his salt will ever quote this wonderful saying of Christ. Secondly coming to the Pastors who perform magic and call them miracles,why must they wait for the lame and blind to come to them? Why can they not go out like Jesus did and heal all the blind and lame people we have on the streets if they are so blessed with powers? 99% of the Miracle and prosperity pastors are FRAUDS!We need to know the truth,and be free of the shackles that Jesus Christ did not place on our hands.These are modern day creations of the prosperity pastors to keep the congregation in chains! |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Zikkyy(m): 8:13am On Apr 23, 2011 |
TCD: newmi, where are you  |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by Nobody: 2:04pm On Apr 23, 2011 |
Pastor AIO: This is Ludicrous. Why didnt Paul, Peter, Philip, Timothy and other early apostles have this magic formula? Weren't they living in the new covenant as well? |
| Re: If Christianity Is About Wealth, why did Jesus not make any poor person rich ? by GreyBeard: 8:27pm On Apr 23, 2011 |
Richvkunt: Very good question! Can anyone answer this? |
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