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Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 9:12am On Mar 26, 2021
The state of the nation is a hopeless one. How some still believe in one Nigeria is beyond my understanding. The writings have been on the wall for years before General Buhari brought to almost fulfilment the breaking away prophecy of the west.

First, General Buhari who was a military man and a former head of state was believed to be in the best position to solve our insecurity problems. Coming from the ravaged northern part of the country is believed to be an added motivation for him to put an end to the existential threats posed to northern Nigeria by widespread insecurity.

However, it used to be surprising that the trust in General Buhari fuelled more insecurity. With a body language and silence proving repeatedly that he is the mastermind of this insecurity. What private agenda he has is not far fetched.

General Buhari had in time past under the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan declared an attack on Boko Haram as an attack on the north. And even though he promised to decimate the Boko Haram terrorists in order to convince us and earn our votes, he has failed woefully. What we have seen is the art of kidnapping and huge ransom payments to the terrorists. Who is fooling who?

There have been reports that the tribalised Nigerian army have been reducing the number of southerners in the army and selectively sending them to face Boko Haram while the same army sells them out to Boko Haram who ambushes them.

Our minister for bandits Sheik Gumi also confirmed these reports by apologizing to the Boko Haram turned bandits. Telling them Muslim soldiers are not responsible for the fight against terrorism. That only the christians soldiers are killing them.

We have seen millions paid out as ransoms to the refurbished Boko Haram who are now called bandits but more devastating in enforcing the ideologies of Boko Haram. Over 800 schools were closed for fear of further kidnapping.

The north is being reduced to nothing and General Buhari hasn't done anything decisive to put an end to the bloody tide.

General Buhari belongs to the Fulani race who have been justifiably profiled as evil across Nigeria. When 8 out of 10 kidnappers are Fulanis, when herders killing and raping farmers are Fulanis, and when bandits are majorly of the same tribe, it is proof that something is fundamentally wrong with the Fulani race. It is however surprising, that a president of the same tribe rather than bring civilization to his people is proposing RUGA and demanding foreign lands and waterways to sustain their primitive ways of life.

Buhari has failed to secure his home (North), how can a man who failed so woefully to secure his home excel in securing foreign homes?

The General is not hiding his inability to secure the south having failed to secure the north. The minister of defense called on us to confront bandits by ourselves, yet Buhari or rather the Police under a Fulani man is arresting those who stood up to confront bandits and killer Herdsmen. The formation of Amotekun for the same cause is being condemned by the Fulani led Federal Government. Who is fooling who?

I hope we still have right thinking Nigerians who can tell their right from their left.

The talk of 2023 is more infuriating with the situation of the country. Will a Tinubu or Igbo presidency defeat Boko Haram where Buhari failed?

Will a war on Boko Haram magically stop being a war against the north?

Will northern sabotage in the army suddenly stop in war against Boko Haram and according to General Buhari "the north"?

What assurances do we have that Boko Haram would not have taken over the government and made the south a lawless and bloodletting place like the troubled north before year 2023?

Need we talk about the death of yoruba elites, kings and farmers in the hands of these criminals empowered by the government? Shall we revisit the assassination attempt on Governor Ortom or the repeated attacks on Borno state governor?

For all the problems plaguing us in the South over bad leadership, we cannot afford insecurity at the scale presently in the north.

But we are sleepwalking to Borno over our nonchalant attitude and division. Nigeria is doomed as a nation and only those who lack foresight will sit comfortably in their homes and preach one Nigeria.

The cry for secession is not a call for war. I wonder why many equate such to a call for war without telling us why there should be a war.

This is proof that we have been enslaved. Only a slave lacks the power to set himself free, only a slave fears to leave a bad union. We have been enslaved to the point of thinking that leaving Nigeria will bring war upon us. What should be a table talk agreement is being peddled around as a call for war. What is wrong with us?

The above brings us to the truth of the matter. If we are in a union with certain tribes who will wage war on us for wanting to walk away, then the union is a union with the devil.

Either way, we have to walk away from the evil union. The north is doomed and cannot save herself, a northern president obviously cannot do the job. General Buhari is a proof of failure. A southern president will not achieve anything against insecurity for stated and obvious reasons. We must therefore ask those who are still promoting one Nigeria to give us reasons other than tagging a call for secession a call for war.

The time has come to stop being willing slaves. The war is already upon us, and the bloodshed on our land is pilling up to battle proportions, why are we burying our heads in sands like the ostrich?

Nigeria is sinking with insecurity. There is war already knocking at the gate. The army failed to defeat Boko Haram and Herdsmen have joined forces with them to continue the siege and assault on civility. We have experienced a tip of the iceberg in the southwest with Herdsmen impunity. With the stance of the South against open grazing and kidnappings, the armies of the north (Boko Haram and Herdsmen) will surely regroup and come back with more deadly weapons to continue their trade. Unfortunately for us, we will be unprepared while the military that failed the north will also fail us.

There might be no Igboho to call upon on the day of adversity following his betrayal by our political leaders. Kid yourself not, Nigeria lacks the capacity to fight terrorism with an ethnic group in power being the same with the terrorists. Now that Boko Haram and Herdsmen have joined forces and under going combat training, what do you think they are training for?

The disintegration of Nigeria is long overdue. If Nigeria has chosen to burn, we must not be consumed in the fire. We must gird our loins and do the expedient.

We need a Yoruba Nation.

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 9:25am On Mar 26, 2021
A.thief.and.a.failure.2023=0
Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Jerryherd: 9:29am On Mar 26, 2021
cool



Go and check Bola Ahmed Tinubu's anticedence before you cast your pessimistic negative ascertion

All of Nigeria's so called challenges would vanish with the right policy and policy makers

*If bus rapid transit system can work in Lagos, then Tinubu can replicate a major Transportation policy in Nigeria

*If Lagos State can run succefully without LGA allocation for years depending only on state generated revenue, then Tinubu can replicate such model to see Nigeria independent of oil revenues

*If Rapid Response Squad .. RRS and 112 toll free LASERMA could work in Lagos, then Nigerian security architecture under Tinubu will work

*If Independent Power Plant could be built in Lagos to generate Electricity in Lagos by Tinubu, then his National Electricity policy would help Nigeria


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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 9:35am On Mar 26, 2021
Jerryherd:
cool



Go and check Bola Ahmed Tinubu's anticedence before you cast your pessimistic negative ascertion

All of Nigeria's so called challenges would vanish with the right policy and policy makers

*If bus rapid transit system can work in Lagos, then Tinubu can replicate a major Transportation policy in Nigeria

*If Lagos State can run succefully without LGA allocation for years depending only on state generated revenue, then Tinubu can replicate such model to see Nigeria independent of oil revenues


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Is he not the leader of APC, is he not the one that foist this government of Buhari on us?

So why do we have widespread insecurity? Have you forgotten "where are the cows" statement?

And don't forget, Boko Haram and Herdsmen have primitive ideologies different from civil Lagosians who obey people in uniform.

Terrorists want the same power the president has, there is no 2way about it when someone like Buhari said an attack on Boko Haram is an attack on the north. And we can see that they are using the insecurity to make money.

When another president from the south becomes president, they will come out more deadly to destroy the government and there is nothing anyone can do about it. By then, you will regret why you didn't secede.

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Jerryherd: 9:40am On Mar 26, 2021
PietraK:


Is he not the leader of APC, is he not the one that foist this government of Buhari on us?

So why do we have widespread insecurity? Have you forgotten "where are the cows" statement?


14 million independent minded voters voted Buhari / Osinbajo , Tinubu never "foisted" anyone

And his where are the cow statement is very clear to the wise....

Do not paint crime with ethnic coloration...

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 9:47am On Mar 26, 2021
Jerryherd:



14 million independent minded voters voted Buhari / Osinbajo , Tinubu never "foisted" anyone

And his where are the cow statement is very clear to the wise....

Do not paint crime with ethnic coloration...

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Nobody painted crime with any coloration. When Boko Haram, bandits, Fulanis herders etc who are all terrorists come from one ethnic group, what do you call that?

Your dispositions as a tribe can be your identity. When the criminals are at it and their much civil tribesmen are supporting them with guns and silence, they cannot blame anyone for profiling them.

Fulanis have proven themselves to be cancer wherever they find themselves. History justifies the statement.

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 9:50am On Mar 26, 2021
Jerryherd:



14 million independent minded voters voted Buhari / Osinbajo , Tinubu never "foisted" anyone

And his where are the cow statement is very clear to the wise....

Do not paint crime with ethnic coloration...

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14 million independent minded you call it? When the election was marred by violence including bombing in some parts of the country.

When underage people voted in thousands.... When people were induced with money?..... When terrorists were shipped in from neighbouring countries to intimidate and cause mayhem?

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Jerryherd: 9:50am On Mar 26, 2021
PietraK:


Nobody painted crime with any coloration. When Boko Haram, bandits, Fulanis herders etc who are all terrorists come from one ethnic group, what do you call that?

Your dispositions as a tribe can be your identity. When the criminals are at it and their much civil tribesmen are supporting them with guns and silence, they cannot blame anyone for profiling them.

Fulanis have proven themselves to be cancer wherever they find themselves. History justifies the statement.


Fulanis are herders and that's their ethnic group,

Most Boko Haram are Kanuris and that's their ethnic group

Most bandits are largely Hausas and other Northern group

This are different ethnic that we southerners tend to lump up together

Ibos , Yoruba and Hausas have all been caught kidnaping so no point giving a crime ethnic coloration

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Jerryherd: 9:52am On Mar 26, 2021
PietraK:


14 million independent minded you call it? When the election was marred by violence including bombing in some parts of the country.

When underage people voted in thousands.... When people were induced with money?..... When terrorists were shipped in from neighbouring countries to intimidate and cause mayhem?


With US Election it is clear no election is perfect, electoral fruad is everywhere and it's Jonathan's fault as a President for not checkmating it

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 9:54am On Mar 26, 2021
Jerryherd:



Fulanis are herders and that's their ethnic group,

Most Boko Haram are Kanuris and that's their ethnic group

Most bandits are largely Hausas and other Northern group

This are different ethnic that we southerners tend to lump up together

Ibos , Yoruba and Hausas have all been caught kidnaping so no point giving a crime ethnic coloration

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Herders are Fulanis, and bandits are Fulanis too. Sheik Gumi confirmed it that bandits are herders who left cattle to take up guns. The presidency and security outfits are not doubting or debating this. They know and we know that they are purely Fulanis.

Please don't distort facts here to score cheap points.

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Jerryherd: 10:02am On Mar 26, 2021
PietraK:


Herders are Fulanis, and bandits are Fulanis too. Sheik Gumi confirmed it that bandits are herders who left cattle to take up guns. The presidency and security outfits are not doubting or debating this. They know and we know that they are purely Fulanis.

Please don't distort facts here to score cheap points.



The premesis of Tinubu's argument is very simple

Ali wadume is a Kidnapper and an Hausa

Evans is a Kidnapper and an Ibo

Wakili iskilu is a Kidnapper and a fulani

Crime isn't about ethnicity....

Address the crime and ignore the ethnicity.... Just because many Ibos are in various prison for drug dealing doesn't mean I should attack hard working Ibos like Chimamanda and Okonjo iweala

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 10:26am On Mar 26, 2021
Jerryherd:




The premesis of Tinubu's argument is very simple

Ali wadume is a Kidnapper and an Hausa

Evans is a Kidnapper and an Ibo

Wakili iskilu is a Kidnapper and a fulani

Crime isn't about ethnicity....

Address the crime and ignore the ethnicity.... Just because many Ibos are in various prison for drug dealing doesn't mean I should attack hard working Ibos like Chimamanda and Okonjo iweala

Have you forgotten what a Fulani Man said? That 8 out of 10 kidnappers are Fulanis.

That tells you something is fundamentally wrong with that tribe. And obviously, Fulani leaders are owning up to the facts and giving excuses for their people.

Some blame climate change while some blame anti open grazing laws. This proves that Kidnapping and terrorism experienced particularly in th South is a Fulani problem.

When measures were put in place to stop kidnapping, raping and killings, which ethnic group cried foul?

If kidnapping is not exclusively the trade of Fulanis, which other ethnic group rebelled against the moves? Which other ethnic group parades southern forests with AK-47?
Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by ivolt: 10:29am On Mar 26, 2021
Igboho boy lying through his teeth. Presenting rumours as facts. We are no fools.

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 10:33am On Mar 26, 2021
ivolt:
Igboho boy lying through his teeth. Presenting rumours as facts. We are no fools.

If you call it rumour, rumours can be facts. But if you are so sure of yourself, point out any lie discovered in the write up and let's see who is wrong.
Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Letthrmsay(m): 11:04am On Mar 26, 2021
PietraK:


14 million independent minded you call it? When the election was marred by violence including bombing in some parts of the country.

When underage people voted in thousands.... When people were induced with money?..... When terrorists were shipped in from neighbouring countries to intimidate and cause mayhem?



Y castigating Tinubu then,will Atiku a Fulani apologist himself a better option?has he ever say anything against fulani mauraders?

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 11:18am On Mar 26, 2021
Letthrmsay:




Y castigating Tinubu then,will Atiku a Fulani apologist himself a better option?has he ever say anything against fulani mauraders?

Atiku will b another disaster. Peter Obi for president or a Yoruba Nation.
Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Racoon(m): 3:55pm On Mar 26, 2021
No Igbo, hausa, yoruba, Tinubu presidency is gonna save this failed nation.Nigeria will never know or see any meaningful development unless this nation is restructured or go back to regional government to develop @ individual pace.
Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by tit(f): 4:37pm On Mar 26, 2021
If Tinubu is president, he will pack a lot of patriotic Yoruba youth to fight Boko haram.
Your guess is as good as mine.
Jonathan pretended to be Igbo, ihejirika pack a lot of Igbo yoot to Borno. He and minima sacrifice them there. The remaining was sacrifice by burantashi.
They have finish, no more Igbo in the army, that is why Boko haram is quite now.

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Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by hollah123: 4:44pm On Mar 26, 2021
PietraK:


Atiku will b another disaster. Peter Obi for president or a Yoruba Nation.
the same Peter Obi that stole Anambra dry n his successor made it clear n it was published in the paper?

so all your castigating of Tinubu is to pave way for Peter Obi?
u are so funny,just imagine Peter Obi or Yoruba nation,so if an igbo man doesn't emerge as president then u mean u will tell yorubas to leave Nigeria?
so it is Igbos that will dictate what yorubas will do?
let me burst your brain,Igbo man can't become a president come 2023.

let's b realistic, everyone is calling for power shift to the south n if all southern region present candidate,do u think Peter Obi can stand either osinbajo or Tinubu?

can Peter Obi even defeat Orji Uzor kalu?

who will vote for an Igbo man with all these their hatred n noise of seccesion?
so we should give presidency to u n repeat 1966?
who will vote an Igbo candidate?
is it d northerners that u hate with passion or the south west that u don't like one bit?
Re: Why A Tinubu Or Igbo Presidency Come 2023 Cannot Save Nigeria by Nobody: 8:45pm On Mar 26, 2021
hollah123:
the same Peter Obi that stole Anambra dry n his successor made it clear n it was published in the paper?

so all your castigating of Tinubu is to pave way for Peter Obi?
u are so funny,just imagine Peter Obi or Yoruba nation,so if an igbo man doesn't emerge as president then u mean u will tell yorubas to leave Nigeria?
so it is Igbos that will dictate what yorubas will do?
let me burst your brain,Igbo man can't become a president come 2023.

let's b realistic, everyone is calling for power shift to the south n if all southern region present candidate,do u think Peter Obi can stand either osinbajo or Tinubu?

can Peter Obi even defeat Orji Uzor kalu?

who will vote for an Igbo man with all these their hatred n noise of seccesion?
so we should give presidency to u n repeat 1966?
who will vote an Igbo candidate?
is it d northerners that u hate with passion or the south west that u don't like one bit?

I am a Yoruba man and I believe in Peter Obi as an incorruptible man. I can only consider a one Nigeria if he is to be given expressway to the presidency. Else, it is yoruba nation.

Yorubas had their time, The north had more than enough time but took us back to primitive ages, and as for Igbos, the only reasonable person is Peter Obi if we ever decide it is their turn.

And why should an Igbo person not have the chance to be president? If you won't allow them because of biafra agitation, then let them have their Biafra in peace.

For me, Nigeria is overdue for division. It is the handwork of the north with how Buhari handled security and his nepotistic tendencies. So they should have themselves to blame for the agitation for secession.

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